ErnestNc:


Most of JW's beliefs are from an implied or perceived interpretation and not directly as scripture says them.

One too many errors I find and they are thus,

1. Jesus is the arch angel Michael( no scripture indicated that directly, it was concoted and twisted )
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Let's examine the evidence

Who is the serpent of Genesis 3:15 whose identity was revealed @ Revelation 12:7-9?

Who is the seed of Genesis 3:15 whom John the apostle made manifest that defeated the serpent
@1 John 3:8 /Revelation12:7-9?

Archangel Michael leads angels to battle & victory @ Daniel 12:1 & Daniel 10:13.
Is Jesus Christ performing that role @2 Thess 1:8-9, Matthew 25:31 & 1 Thessalonians 4:16?

Hebrews 1:14 angels are ministering spirits for salvation.
Matthew 20:28 &1 Corinthians 15:22,45 NLT, is Jesus Christ the ministering spirit of your salvation?

Most TRINITARIANS admitted that Archangel Michael is Jesus Christ.
Nah this one break table kpata kpata

Janosky:


Achorladey continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.

John the apostle wrote John 4:23-24.

Was John himself in agreement with Acts 15:6-15?

ErnestNc:


There are so many people Out there who don't know about the scriptures, or about God's salvation which is Jesus like Cornelius in acts 10, some have the scripture but don't understand like the Ethiopian Eunuch, but God by his mercies will reach them and teach them because they are humble, He will also direct them like Cornelius , to people who he has reached. And that was my case, as I never understood what the modern church was all about. I was lost and chasing after what pastor said we should do and not what scripture declares. But now I know what the true faith is and it's belief in Jesus Crucified and Ressurrected.



Congregation of believers ? What do they believe in? Michael as God's Christ or prosperity as the essence of God's sacrifice?

You don't know what you worship . I'd rather worship with my brethren at home in secret and raise my kids to know the true Christ , I'd rather reach out to lost souls and point them to the Christ crucified and Ressurrected .

John 4:21 KJV
the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

There's no prescribed location for God's worship . You are God's temple and house of prayer.

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But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Do you worship in spirit and in TRUTH? This should be ur concern.

ErnestNc:


Because all that you believe about God was what Jehova witness organisation taught you and made you believe, and not by the spirit of God or his apostles.

1 John 2:27 KJV
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


When you're indoctrinated by mere men who don't have the spirit of God, you might have been marked for damnation.

So far, all you have been taught by your organisation have been proven fallible and erroneous when juxtaposed alongside with the scriptures of God's words.

Janosky:
Christendom's 3 deities slave dey see rafters & purtohpurtoh mess inside Christendom,him no REMOVE the filth.
But nah JWs be him problem.

cornelboy:

You're just finding every means to justify your solo worship.

cornelboy:

You're just finding every means to justify your solo worship.

Matthew 28:19
[19]Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

So after you go out to preach to people, you just tell them to worship at their home?
Nah! There was a pattern set by the early church. Jesus started a church and he's the head of that church.

Jesus being the archangel Michael doesn't change or contradict anything in the scripture. Rather it might shows us what Jesus identity was before he came to earth. There are indeed reasonable clues why JWs believe that Micheal might be Jesus.

Whether Jesus was Michael or not, it doesn't change the fact that we need to believe Jesus Christ as God's son, lord and Messiah, learn about Jesus and Jehovah God and completely do their wills for our salvation.

Jah bless.

Most of JW's beliefs are from an implied or perceived interpretation and not directly as scripture says them

One too many errors I find and they are thus,1. Jesus is the arch angel Michael ( no scripture indicated that directly, it was concoted and twisted

You're just finding every means to justify your solo worship

You don't know what you worship . I'd rather worship with my brethren at home in secret and raise my kids to know the true Christ , I'd rather reach out to lost souls and point them to the Christ crucified and Ressurrected

MaxInDHouse:

Most of them just feel that once they're able to read the Bible each person on his own can conclude what is wrong or right without agreeing with any group of worshipers.
Yet when they see a group working towards achievements in the ministry they want to pick out faults forgetting that in the absence of a group they can not do God's will!

cornelboy:

I don't think I'll agree with you on that.
No teachings if the JWs contradicts the scripture. Their doctrines is hundred percent based on the scripture.

So you were taught by the holy spirit and have the accurate interpretation of the scripture right??

achorladey:

We know your GODS concluded what is right and wrong for you and their achievements is seen in them having such power over you to swallow theirtheir mistakes, errors in doctrines and organization direction as right and wrong from God with no questions asked.

MaxInDHouse:


If you don't agree that imperfect humans can be organized to have the same line of thought then what are you doing here everyday?

You people are just deaf spiritually speaking.

You're arguing day and night because some people are ORGANIZED and have agreed to live by the same standard yet you and your friends here can't agree on who is Jehovah and Jesus.

Ọmọ you don dey kolo o!

If you don't agree that imperfect humans can be organized to have the same line of thought then what are you doing here everyday?

You people are just deaf spiritually speaking.

You're arguing day and night because some people are ORGANIZED and have agreed to live by the same standard yet you and your friends here can't agree on who is Jehovah and Jesus

Ọmọ you don dey kolo o!

achorladey:

That your manipulated and lying one line of thought that includes Jesus bought Watchtower from Russell
Because we don't buy whatever the lies and manipulations you are selling as handed over to you by your GODS .
You go from thread to thread fighting for your GODS against those who decides to do things outside the lies, manipulations of you and your GODS.
Keep peddling your kolo all over the place. After all it is you and your likes that wants to force ErnestNc to buy into your fake, lies and manipulations about being ORGANIZED and one line of thought. The screenshot below is evidence

MaxInDHouse:


You need to get something straight here:

You have your own personal opinion on what you want and you expect everyone else to do the same so you shouldn't have any issue with anyone since nobody is imposing their opinion on you.
Whatever makes you uncomfortable with any other persons opinion then you should present a better one that's practically applicable and used by an organized people, in the absence of such you have no point arguing with anyone over what is right or wrong you should hold onto your opinion and leave others to choose whether they will like to change their opinion or not!

You need to get something straight here:

You have your own personal opinion on what you want and you expect everyone else to do the same so you shouldn't have any issue with anyone since nobody is imposing their opinion on you.

You're just finding every means to justify your solo worship.

You people are just deaf spiritually speaking.

Most of them just feel that once they're able to read the Bible each person on his own can conclude what is wrong or right without agreeing with any group of worshipers.

But how can you be saved by playing solo with God without a congregation? You have to search for the group that are doing God's will today and worship with them.

You either accept Hebrews 11:7,13 , Hebrews 10:23-25 which the apostles gave the practical examples @ Acts 15:6-15.
Or reject it.

Whatever makes you uncomfortable with any other persons opinion then you should present a better one that's practically applicable and used by an organized people,

in the absence of such you have no point arguing with anyone over what is right or wrong you should hold onto your opinion and leave others to choose whether they will like to change their opinion or not!

achorladey:


He told you earlier, he is not interested in your implied, twisted and concocted teachings


Where in the Bible 100% was stated Russell was the seventh and last messenger of the gospel age.


Where in your bible 100% says Jesus returned invisibly in 1914?

achorladey:

When caught in your web and crook way of manipulations and lies you start looking for something straight. Liar and manipulator changing mouth as usual when caught in lies and manipulations. Go and tell that to your likes making comments on this thread. See below....... You continued with your When the scripture that are inspired and equipped for men to do good works are read alone for you to see what it is you are asked to do, you will start looking for the interpretations of your GODS which are not INSPIRED and are filled with ERRORS.
Compare and contrast, one is better than the other but your quest for lies and manipulations will not admit it Liar and manipulator Looking for room to keep peddling his lies and manipulations as usual. Choosing to follow an opinion ko choosing to force an opinion ni? ;

MaxInDHouse:


It's normal to present a better option and it's also normal to accept or decline but it's totally abnormal interfering when you have no business in the matter. You're not buying yet you're always there to intercept the business.
Jesus gave your type a fitting illustration:

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you shut up the Kingdom of the heavens before men; for you yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way in to go in. Matthew 23:13

Whatever makes you uncomfortable with any other persons opinion then you should present a better one that's practically applicable and used by an organized people, in the absence of such you have no point arguing with anyone over what is right or wrong

It's normal to present a better option and it's also normal to accept or decline but it's totally abnormal interfering when you have no business in the matter.

not buying yet you're always there to intercept the business.

Jesus gave your type a fitting illustration:

Emusan:


This 1914 issue must be different.

Imagine this claim from Watchtower "These overseers faithfully seek to apply instructions received from Jehovah God and Jesus Christ by means of the faithful and discreet slave and its Governing Body." Watchtower 1990 Mar 15 p.20

They RECEIVED INSTRUCTIONS from Jehovah and Jesus Christ stated clearly in 1990 just 3 years later, the same Watchtower says "Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect. Because of this, some have called them false prophets. Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions 'in the name of Jehovah.' Never did they say, 'These are the words of Jehovah.'" Awake! 1993 Mar 22 p.4

A religious leaders that claimed to receive instructions from Jehovah and Jesus Christ say in 3 years later that never were they ever claim their predictions are IN THE NAME OF JEHOVAH.

If this is so, then is 1914 part of their just a presume predictions which is not from Jehovah and Jesus Christ?

You'll see them going into hiding mode

achorladey:

Our comments

MaxInDHouse:


There's no "OUR" it's you who said you're not buying something so this is about you alone!

MaxInDHouse:
Do you care to know the IDENTIFYING MARK of true Christianity?

achorladey:

My comments that I don't impose here on nairaland are intercepting or interfering your lies and manipulations No wonder
Examples like........
Jesus was not selling lies and manipulations like MaxInDHouse on nairaland. Now you know I offered something better yet you choose those not inspired and errors ridden DOCTRINES and organization directions of your GODS..

MightySparrow:

MaxInDHouse:


I'm not interested in your Jesus just as you're not interested in my Jesus so find your level and stop trailing me. I'm not attacking your Jesus so it's insanity always following me up and down the forum.

As for your use of "OUR" you are here when individuals like Cornelboy, Seniorman and many others started showing interest in what i'm selling so you can't speak for others since you've spoken for you own very self stay on your lane!

I'm not interested in your Jesus just as you're not interested in my Jesus so find your level and stop trailing me. I'm not attacking your Jesus so it's insanity always following me up and down the forum.

As for your use of "OUR" you are here when individuals like Cornelboy, Seniorman and many others started showing interest in what i'm selling so you can't speak for others since you've spoken for you own very self stay on your lane!

achorladey:


Liar and manipulator changed to not......... interested in your Jesus just as you're not interested in my Jesus
When I told Mayowa that when two OR three are gathered in my name............ the insanities peddling peddler jumped and started to give me explanations and meanings . Your insanities and madness peddling brains didn't remember your Jesus is different from mine. He kept responding until I told him whatever he is selling, I am not buying . The many colours of a manipulator and liar, peddling madness and insanities over nairaland.
Many problems for insanities and madness peddling peddler who can't understand the meaning of OUR as used in my post he is referencing here. I repeat what I choose to do here and the control on who I choose to mention in my post goes beyond your jurisdiction. This is nairaland forum not your Jehovah’s witnesses forum or social media platforms

MaxInDHouse:

The question that requires a simple YES or NO response!

Emusan:

Do you fight for your God?
Simple Yes or No question

MaxInDHouse:


Ọ̀gbẹ́ni you said you're not interested in what i'm selling but others are so you have no right to stop others from buying if they're interested that's the point.
Henceforth i will ignore you, i just want to show you how stupid you're talking as if you're speaking in behalf of everyone when some are in fact picking interested!

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni you said you're not interested in what i'm selling but others are so you have no right to stop others from buying if they're interested that's the point.

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni you said you're notinterested in what i'm selling but others are so you have no right to stop others from buying if they're interested that's the point

Henceforth i will ignore you, i just want to show you how stupid you're talking as if you're speaking in behalf of everyone when some are in fact picking interested!

want to show you how stupid you're talking as if you're speaking in behalf of everyone

MaxInDHouse:

I have no business with you!

MaxInDHouse:

I have no business with you!

MaxInDHouse:
Many comes on this same forum to promote their pastors and this OP still can't find a church that's PRACTICING what is right or perhaps he just feel all the churches must be equal either way it's unchristian to think that all gatherings where the name JESUS is called are Christians it's also unchristian to think there is no true Christian practicing group!

Many comes on this same forum to promote their pastors and this OP still can't find a church that's PRACTICING what is right or perhaps he just feel all the churches

Emusan:


Any day you have business with me, don't forget you still have outstanding question.

Which is, do you fight for your God?