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Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Banter1(m): 3:38pm On Sep 05, 2023
Akacollins7:
I don't know how you people view league, after him leaving his mama home Barcelona where thing is throw/given to him to PSG, what happened with all the big players there at end he can't find his feet. And was throw out and no body talked about his spell in PSG. Now he find him self in a league of people that doesn't know there gender, you'll think is eleven men against eleven men, but it's seven female and four male in a team. It's an insulting to compare CR7 to him. Ronaldo have conquer many countries so. I'm not fan of any, truth be told. Even the world cup is still under questions
You got me ROTFLMAO on people that don't know their gender
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Fearyourcreator: 3:39pm On Sep 05, 2023
Akacollins7:
I don't know how you people view league, after him leaving his mama home Barcelona where thing is throw/given to him to PSG, what happened with all the big players there at end he can't find his feet. And was throw out and no body talked about his spell in PSG. Now he find him self in a league of people that doesn't know there gender, you'll think is eleven men against eleven men, but it's seven female and four male in a team. It's an insulting to compare CR7 to him. Ronaldo have conquer many countries so. I'm not fan of any, truth be told. Even the world cup is still under questions
My brother ... If you talk they will call you fanboy... Hype and favour for him too much... Messi dey ball but niggar is always favoured... I wan see how them go run the ballondior this year ... Cus he did nothing WC 2010 and won it ... Now another team did well in UCL and won it . . I wan check something
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Fearyourcreator: 3:39pm On Sep 05, 2023
OJEEMAH:
What Messi achieved from junior to senior level with Argentina is enough prove cos he didn’t win them with Barcelona

He won U20 World
He won Olympics Gold Medal
He won Copa America
And also won them the World Cup

Do you know the interesting thing?

Messi was Golden ball winner in the World Cup
Copa America Player of the Tournament, Top Scorer & Assist
Most Valuable Player in U20 World Cup
Oga forget this thing... Dem mikel that time ... Mikel was supposed to win golden ball... Na chancing
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Fearyourcreator: 3:40pm On Sep 05, 2023
OJEEMAH:
Messi changed club for the first time in about 18years and you just expect him to hit the ground running in a dysfunctional club where he’s not even the man leading from the front.

If you think Ronaldo will survive playing a supporting role to Mbappe in PSG, then you really don’t understand football as much as I thought.

Messi who was literally operating from the wing & sometimes behind Mbappe in a team full of stars with egos clashing here and there, you think it will be easy at 34year?

Ronaldo never played for a disorganized team like PSG.

Ronaldo joined a Man U team that gave him all the support and as a teen, the guy had less pressure. He grew into the team with the help of senior players like Scholes, Giggs, Ferdinand and others. Not a team like PSG where you have to fight 2 egoistic players like Mbappe or Neymar to become the main man.

If Ronaldo had joined Madrid when Zidane, Figo and R9 were all there, his case would have been like Beckham and Owen or do you think, Zidane, Figo and R9 will give him all the penalties and free kick?

Or you de expect player like Zidane or Figo to always pass the ball like Ozil and Kroos to CR7?

Na R9 go de pass ball to CR7 like Benzema and Rooney?

He joined juventus as a star player. As a matter of fact, all the players were beneath his level. No one was close. He automatically became the main star.

With his bloated ego, if he joined PSG, he would have clashed with Neymar and Mbappe more than once and that’s what Messi was trying to avoid and the circumstances upon which Messi left the Barcelona also affected him.

Don’t you understand some factors may have affected Messi

See the theories you have been creating is purely out of hatred.

Logically speaking, a player that failed outside Barcelona cannot be putting up match winning performances and also winning MVP in most international tournaments he participated with Argentina or are you now calling Argentina national team, Barcelona?
Man.U dey organized... Dey play
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Banter1(m): 3:42pm On Sep 05, 2023
As a Chelsea fan, at their peak I will pick Ronaldo ahead of Messi
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by OJEEMAH(m): 3:48pm On Sep 05, 2023
Fearyourcreator:

Man.U dey organized... Dey play
Man U under fergie no de organized?
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by OJEEMAH(m): 3:50pm On Sep 05, 2023
Fearyourcreator:

Oga forget this thing... Dem mikel that time ... Mikel was supposed to win golden ball... Na chancing
not true

If you no watch the competition, go rewatch Argentina matches again
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Fearyourcreator: 4:17pm On Sep 05, 2023
OJEEMAH:
not true

If you no watch the competition, go rewatch Argentina matches again
I watch am... Mikel better Messi abeg
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Fearyourcreator: 4:17pm On Sep 05, 2023
OJEEMAH:
Man U under fergie no de organized?



Nothing do PSG abeg ... They were in the ucl finals before Messi
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Bentonite1: 4:19pm On Sep 05, 2023
hensben:
Was Ronaldo the best player in the euro Portugal won? did he score in the final? How many minutes did he play before been he was taking off due to choking and little injury. Yet you want to compare him with someone that won it all for Argentina and was the best player in all the tournaments. Messi has five playmaker awards more than actual midfielders like xavi and co is who you are comparing with Ronaldo. Goal per match ratio he is ahead of Ronaldo and has more goals than Ronaldo in European club football. Barca carried Messi yet they look ordinary since he left meanwhile Madrid have won two ucl and produced two ballon d’ or since Ronaldo left.



Op who's a better player in Europe if not Cristiano? I can give 2 players better than that fraud in South America
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Bentonite1: 4:20pm On Sep 05, 2023
hensben:
Another stupidity, Messi assisted that Olympics goal with a beautiful through pass and dimaria was one on one run to the keeper. Messi scored Two goals in the World Cup final. If it is so which coach will rest his best player until final, what if they don’t get to the final how will he feature? Nor be person carry them go final and that major person na Messi. You Ronaldo fans say anything just to talk down Messi achievement just to exonerate Ronaldo who his achievement is below Messi. Isn’t that madness. Ronaldo won euro from bench for Portugal you guys still want to give him the accolade, even when he wasn’t the best player on the tournament but Messi will do everything on the pitch yet you guys talk trash. Messi is the superior player. Deal with fact. Having favorite shouldn’t make you guys blind to the truth.





ID!0T WHO CARRIED PORTUGAL TO FINALS?
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Bentonite1: 4:21pm On Sep 05, 2023
imbless:
Bro Portugal won the euro without pendu. How una take dey hype pendu is disgusting



who took PORTUGAL to finals? without Ronaldo will there be finals?
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Yusman316(m): 4:24pm On Sep 05, 2023
Emu4life:

In 71 appearances, Messi scored 32 Goals and provided 35 Assists for PSG.
Question is: After 5 World Cup appearances, how many Knockout Goals does Ronaldo have??
Note: The World Cup is the biggest Football Tournament in the World .
League competitions like champions league, copa libertadores are more gruesome and challenging to win than one off competitions like world cup, European championship, African cup of nations, copa America and so on. When the world cup started in 1930 there were no viable club competitions so that made the world cup the most popular. Players like Pele played in an era where the national team carries more prestige than club sides
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Bentonite1: 4:27pm On Sep 05, 2023
OJEEMAH:
has Di Maria ever outscored or assisted more goals in any tournaments they played since inception?

Scoring in finals alone does not make him a match or better than Messi except you want to tell me nothing else matter apart from scoring in finals.

Where was Di Maria when Messi scored a screamer against Mexico to give them hope of qualification?

Where was Di Maria when Messi scored the opener in the round of 16 against Australia?

Where was Di Maria when Alvarez scored Messi’s defence splitting pass against Netherlands in quarter final?

Where was Di Maria when Messi scored from the spot and humiliated Gvardiol to create the third goal for Alvarez against Croatia in the semis?

Where was Di Maria in Copa America before the final?

Where was Di Maria in Olympics before the final?

Argue with facts bro. but France and England scoring 4 penalties in 2018 World Cup isn’t fraud? 70% of the competitive matches Ronaldo scored are qualifiers against minors like Luxembourg, Faroe island, Estonia, Gibraltar, Lithuania, Malta and many others.

If Messi had represented Spain, he would have scored 200 international goals against those teams.

Ronaldo participated in 14 international tournaments through his career. How many top scorer did he win?

Any best player award?

5 World Cup and no knockout goal till now if I were you, I wouldn’t even start this comparison.






LIAR. THAT'S WHAT MESSI FANS KNOWS TOO WELL. HOW TO LIE
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Bentonite1: 4:28pm On Sep 05, 2023
Orimogunje51:
Just like how they took the achievement of Eder for your Penaldo




Your very stop!d. How did they get to finals? I'd!0t answer my question.
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Bentonite1: 4:33pm On Sep 05, 2023
Orimogunje51:


No be the same PSG wey lost league one trophy prior to the arrival of Messi we're also talking about? The truth is you penaldo fans are worse than we Messi fans since you are talking of hatred. We know what we face from you guys before Messi won international trophies for his national team



I'd!0t answer my question?
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by TruthHurts100: 4:57pm On Sep 05, 2023
Lol. After playing all his life in his comfort zone, Barcelona, he went where? MLS 🤣

Cristiano played and won big in biggest leagues in Europe.

English Premier League
Spanish Laliga
Italian Seria A.


Now at 38, he's still scoring goals in Saudi Arabia.

See image and cry more.

Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Error401: 5:12pm On Sep 05, 2023
In a leage that kano pillars ranked above? grin grin grin grin grin grin

AImiron:
Lionel Messi's consistent standout performances in the American continent are dispelling the reservations many people once had concerning the seven-time Ballon d'Or winner.

This shift also includes legendary manager Sir Alex Ferguson's perspective in the context of comparing Messi to Cristiano Ronaldo.

As a result, Inter Miami have secured a spot in the CONCACAF Champions Cup by virtue of their qualification for the league's cup final, marking yet another groundbreaking achievement within the club's five-year history.

Proving himself beyond the comforts of Barcelona was a feat some questioned whether Messi could accomplish, even including the esteemed Sir Alex Ferguson among the sceptics.

Back then, Messi had solely represented one club, Barcelona, in La Liga. On the other hand, Ronaldo had an extensive history, playing for Sporting Lisbon in Portugal, Manchester United in England, Real Madrid in Spain, and Juventus in Italy.

Ronaldo's remarkable journey encompassed not only various countries and clubs, but his exceptional performance in each league underscored his extraordinary skill and adaptability, demonstrating his prowess across diverse countries and competitions.

Ferguson on Messi vs Ronaldo

According to The Mirror, Ex-Manchester United's iconic manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, shared his thoughts in 2015 on the highly debated Messi vs Ronaldo topic, stating:

"People say, 'Who is the best player in the world?' And plenty of people quite rightly say Messi - you can't dispute that opinion. But Ronaldo could play for Millwall, Queens Park Rangers, Doncaster Rovers… anyone, and score a hat-trick in a game. I'm not sure Messi could do it. Ronaldo's got two feet; he's quick, great in the air, he's brave - Messi's brave, of course. I think Messi's a Barcelona player."

MESSI PROVES SIR ALEX FERGUSON WRONG

The sheer numbers Messi has amassed since entering the league have shattered this notion.

Leo Messsi has played 11 matches for Inter Miami, the Argentine has netted 11 goals and provided 5 assists.

He also won league’s cup, he was the best player in the tournament and the first ever trophy for his new club. It should be noted that Inter Miami is worst team in the MLS before Messi joined them. Recently, they defeated the reigning champions of the MLS(LAFC) at home, the matched end 3-1.

Its a great feeling that SAF is alive to eat his words, this old man is a glorified local champion. He managed one club throughout his career, yet he has a problem with a player playing solely for a club. What an hypocrite!! This is the same Messi that cost his team 2 UEFA champions league finals.


SOURCE
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by nesgeeek(m): 5:14pm On Sep 05, 2023
No be lie. well spoken.
Akacollins7:
I don't know how you people view league, after him leaving his mama home Barcelona where thing is throw/given to him to PSG, what happened with all the big players there at end he can't find his feet. And was throw out and no body talked about his spell in PSG. Now he find him self in a league of people that doesn't know there gender, you'll think is eleven men against eleven men, but it's seven female and four male in a team. It's an insulting to compare CR7 to him. Ronaldo have conquer many countries so. I'm not fan of any, truth be told. Even the world cup is still under questions
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by OJEEMAH(m): 5:18pm On Sep 05, 2023
Bentonite1:






LIAR. THAT'S WHAT MESSI FANS KNOWS TOO WELL. HOW TO LIE
you just use the easy route by calling me a liar despite the glaring and verifiable facts

I put it to you again.

This time I want make you Use facts counter me if na lie

Has Di Maria ever outscored or assisted more goals in any tournaments they played since inception?

Scoring in finals alone does not make him a match or better than Messi except you want to tell me nothing else matter apart from scoring in finals.

Where was Di Maria when Messi scored a screamer against Mexico to give them hope of qualification?

Where was Di Maria when Messi scored the opener in the round of 16 against Australia?

Where was Di Maria when Alvarez scored Messi’s defence splitting pass against Netherlands in quarter final?

Where was Di Maria when Messi scored from the spot and humiliated Gvardiol to create the third goal for Alvarez against Croatia in the semis?

Where was Di Maria in Copa America before the final?

Where was Di Maria in Olympics before the final?

Argue with facts bro. but France and England scoring 4 penalties in 2018 World Cup isn’t fraud? 70% of the competitive matches Ronaldo scored are qualifiers against minors like Luxembourg, Faroe island, Estonia, Gibraltar, Lithuania, Malta and many others.

If Messi had represented Spain, he would have scored 200 international goals against those teams.

Ronaldo participated in 14 international tournaments through his career. How many top scorer did he win?

Any best player award?

5 World Cup and no knockout goal till now if I were you, I wouldn’t even start this comparison.

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Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by OJEEMAH(m): 5:25pm On Sep 05, 2023
Fearyourcreator:

Nothing do PSG abeg ... They were in the ucl finals before Messi
Mention their opponents of shame no go catch you.

Atalanta, Dortmund & Leipzig

Knocking out 3 average clubs in a one legged tie doesn’t mean they were good.

Atalanta na champions league new comer
Dortmund na perennial bottlers in UCL
Leipzig no get UCL pedigree

If they had met, Madrid, Bayern, Man City, Liverpool or Chelsea in the knockout stage, na round of 16 they for boot them out.

The following year Man city knock boot them out of UCL home and away

Madrid knocked them out thereafter

This year Bayern still knack them

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Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Chienex24(m): 5:37pm On Sep 05, 2023
Bentonite1:






OP WHAT DID HE ACHIEVE IN PSG AFTER HE LEFT BARCELONA?


6 GOALS IN 27 GAMES.

OH YOU NOW MAKE NOISE BECAUSE HE PLAYS IN TEAM MADE OF MCDONALD SALES MEN WHO DOESN'T KNOW FOOTBALL... LAUGHABLE.



And your biased self centered and wicked mind forgot his 2nd spell at psg where he was among psg highest goal scorers and also the joint top assist in the whole of Europe with de bruyne of man city.wicked selfish jealous judgement that only picked out the struggling part, Nonsense!!

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Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Inobeyourmate: 5:40pm On Sep 05, 2023
11doubledee:

The way they talk ehn,if you are new to the game of football you would think messi did not win and contribute anything @PSG
Oloriburuku niwon ✌️💯
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Chienex24(m): 5:40pm On Sep 05, 2023
Enthro:
Wasn't a Ronaldo fan until last season
Dude left man city wit classic players and still join clueless united and still had 18 goals haba
Stop comparing them
Messi got everything he had today through barca and since he left what's left of him
2 years in PSG wit only 6 goals

Nigerian league is even far rated than MLS 🙃🙃


I still laugh at fans hatred and jealousy towards messi forgetting his second season at psg where he performed far better just to satisfy their jealousy!! He was among psg top scorers in d 2nd season and also the joint top assister with de bruyne in the whole of Europe where he played a supporting role to mbappe. Keep crying me a River!!
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Chienex24(m): 5:43pm On Sep 05, 2023
Blazebond:
Una dey seriously dey compare Messi that flopped spectacularly in the french league while playing for PSG hahahahaha,you lots are clowns,Messi stopped playing football in 2016/2017,all what he has been doing since is trash and forget about the world cup that he won,he wasn't the best player at all in that world cup,Messi and Ronaldo are done,let other more deserving players take over.


He flopped?? Hahaha.... Go check his 2nd season stat in dat same psg if Ur biased clouded mind will only make u judge his ist season!!!

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Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Emu4life(m): 5:46pm On Sep 05, 2023
Yusman316:

League competitions like champions league, copa libertadores are more gruesome and challenging to win than one off competitions like world cup, European championship, African cup of nations, copa America and so on. When the world cup started in 1930 there were no viable club competitions so that made the world cup the most popular. Players like Pele played in an era where the national team carries more prestige than club sides
The World Cup is the most prestigious Football Tournament in the World. No amount of explanation, Gas Lighting, White washing, manipulation or tears can change that. Deal with it.

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Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Chienex24(m): 5:47pm On Sep 05, 2023
Bentonite1:



Op he achieved nothing. Dmaria was the key. go and watch those games and see for yourself. even in the finals against Nigeria it was dmaria who scored that beautiful goal from outside the box to hand Argentina the trophy. including the world cup finals, dmaria changed the game for them. they know what he does, that was why he was rested until finals and he delivered.

You mean the frauds penalty kicks? 5 penalties in his 7 goals hahahah laughable. if it was Ronaldo you all will say all kinds of trashh..

Confirm that frauds goals against those south American teams, 90% came from friendlies.
more reason he's called king of friendlies.

his goals from competitive competition is not even up-to halve of ronaldo's goals in competitive tournaments. make enquiries and come back. I tell you facts.

RONALDO without penalties in international level still has 102 goals, help me confirm Messi without penalties in international level hahahah, king of penalties


Is now di Maria that is the GOAT!! Hahaha!! Penaldogs won't kill somebody. Make una no die of hate oo, before I count how many finals both in champions League and the Europe trophy Portugal won, where Ronaldo was completely useless!!

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Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Karnice600: 6:01pm On Sep 05, 2023
Akacollins7:
I don't know how you people view league, after him leaving his mama home Barcelona where thing is throw/given to him to PSG, what happened with all the big players there at end he can't find his feet. And was throw out and no body talked about his spell in PSG. Now he find him self in a league of people that doesn't know there gender, you'll think is eleven men against eleven men, but it's seven female and four male in a team. It's an insulting to compare CR7 to him. Ronaldo have conquer many countries so. I'm not fan of any, truth be told. Even the world cup is still under questions

Mumbo jumbo King, settle the issues you have with punctuations first, then you can talk about whatever issue is up with Messi.

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Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by Tommydare(m): 6:03pm On Sep 05, 2023
U go explain tire.
Akacollins7:
I don't know how you people view league, after him leaving his mama home Barcelona where thing is throw/given to him to PSG, what happened with all the big players there at end he can't find his feet. And was throw out and no body talked about his spell in PSG. Now he find him self in a league of people that doesn't know there gender, you'll think is eleven men against eleven men, but it's seven female and four male in a team. It's an insulting to compare CR7 to him. Ronaldo have conquer many countries so. I'm not fan of any, truth be told. Even the world cup is still under questions

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Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by nairamaniac: 7:03pm On Sep 05, 2023
Akacollins7:
I don't know how you people view league, after him leaving his mama home Barcelona where thing is throw/given to him to PSG, what happened with all the big players there at end he can't find his feet. And was throw out and no body talked about his spell in PSG. Now he find him self in a league of people that doesn't know there gender, you'll think is eleven men against eleven men, but it's seven female and four male in a team. It's an insulting to compare CR7 to him. Ronaldo have conquer many countries so. I'm not fan of any, truth be told. Even the world cup is still under questions
The world cup is only under question in your head and other empty heads identical with yours.

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Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by bewla(m): 7:31pm On Sep 05, 2023
oyatainer:



He played two seasons at PSG and won three titles better than what Ronaldo won at United second coming. Messi won two ligue 1 and 1 French cup. What did Ronaldo win at Man United for two seasons? Even at his three years at Juventus, he didnt win more than four trophies. Messi had G/A of 67 in two season at PSG. He won Copa America and World cup and Finalisima during the time. All these will remain mirage for Ronaldo for life.
Yeah like what van gal said about the world cup

Pls don't even start with Ronaldo is way above hype which you add to this demy god call meschit
Re: Lionel Messi Defies Sir Alex Ferguson's Theory In The Messi Vs Ronaldo Debate by tochez24(m): 7:47pm On Sep 05, 2023
TheSuperX:
I can't believe someone can be this dumb, read what you typed again and ask yourself if you made any sense.


How much have you made with all your senses? Broke fool😂😂😂

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