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Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by garfield1: 1:40pm On Sep 17, 2023
Nyceguy92:
Anyone who participated the last elections and followed the tribunal case as it unfolded knows that several very serious issues were raised.

Mr Farooq is only seeking to be noticed in the hope of some placement in some position in government. He is like the palace jester performing for crumbs.

I am for a good and progressive Nigeria and I really do not care the ethnicity or religion of who becomes president, but having followed the campaigns and radio and TV interviews of candidates before the elections, it was obvious who Nigerians wanted as their president. It was not Tinubu.

The PEPT judges may say all they want, but Nigeria has many educated people who are not entirely ignorant of the law and the constitution. They know when the judges erred.

So should we accept a judgement written by some gangster lawyers instead of the judges that sat on the case?

You can't fault the judgment.obi raised serious issues without evidence
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by Rebelutionary: 1:44pm On Sep 17, 2023
Racoon:
Of course Farooq can only continue to grandstand deceiving himself and his gullible followers that all the issues raised @ the PEPT are non-issues. He fully knows that all of them will be serious issues of multiple litigations in his adopted country of the United States that have strong institutions.

We can continue to downplay and rationalise all manners of illegalities and unconstitutionality because we have primordial ethno-religio-regional supremacist sentiments or to be politically correct.
Lol...I never knew this day will come so soon! A day when you will speak ill of your tin-god who pens indifferent and independent of your political leanings Racoon.

The evidence for electoral irregularities they presented to the tribunal were, for the most part, inept, tangential, weak, and easily disputable. Plus, they are also guilty of these irregularities in their own areas of popularity. It isn't enough to allege; you should prove your allegations beyond all shadows of doubt, beyond merely providing libidinal raw materials for the wet dreams of your worshipful supporters.

Ouch...I love how he took you all to the cleaners and even made a mockery of Obi's infantile case! His followers are gullible? grin Ain't you his number 1 follower who goes to scrape anything from his articles to justify any inanity that crosses your mind? Gullible follower, you are bro! grin grin
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by Rebelutionary: 1:54pm On Sep 17, 2023
Dblack:
The petitioners case was made weak because the election umpire cunningly denied to provide sufficient documents for them to prove their case. They could only bank on disqualification of BAT and INEC Guidelines.
So in their final addresses they dwelled on peripherals rather that the election itself.


The persistent failure of a man is when he thinks his misfortune is external. What documents did they need that wasn't in those boxes that Obi brought to court and was even doing modelling with biko? What you said is like in football when a team will say that we would hav won if not because we went to penalties! You prepare for EVERYTHING! If LP fumbled should PDP also do same?
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by Rebelutionary: 2:01pm On Sep 17, 2023
mycar:
I have always known farouq to be a biased writer so it's not surprising. He played down the wrong judgment by saying that it has a far reaching advantage than having justice.
in another length, he is accusing the petitioners of not having strong evidence leaving INEC out of it and lemme tell him, the election results had been since prepared before the actual election took place, he should ask INEC why no state or local government result tallies with what INEC announced.
Even the places that Tinubu won, the uploaded results o IREV did not match, result were announced where Election did not take place. INEC uploaded some results from BVAS that no election happened and when the parties involved wanted to inspect the accredited voters on the BVAS, INEC refused and decided to format the BVAS in the name of reconfiguration of the BVAS and refused to do it before the party representatives.
even if the parties provide every polling unit results, INEC will provide times two of that since they have polling unit results of where election did not happen in some states that Tinubu is popular.

The past election is not about Tinubu winning or losing but about the future of the country, this judgment will definitely bring the downfall of this country because by the time another person will do it. I know that those that supported it now will not take.

Imagine saying the 25% votes sin Abuja, if Atiku had gotten highest votes and failed to get 25% in the whole federation, would they have said that no voter is more important than the other?

Anyways, history has a way of repeating but the question is when.
Maybe just maybe if Obi and Atiku have said half of what you are saying and PRESENTED EVIDENCE maybe you won't be here gnashing your teeth. That is what Farooq is saying and you have immediately labelled because he didn't write what you want to hear. Mr keep emotions aside, this are matters of LAW abeg.
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by Donaldoni: 2:23pm On Sep 17, 2023
Pigs......

Bunch of pathetic sore losers! angry

You lost the election. That's it!! angry
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by yemex04(m): 2:48pm On Sep 17, 2023
Dblack:
The petitioners case was made weak because the election umpire cunningly denied to provide sufficient documents for them to prove their case. They could only bank on disqualification of BAT and INEC Guidelines.
So in their final addresses they dwelled on peripherals rather that the election itself.








A serious minded Petitioner who truely wants to win a litigation at the Tribunal will not depend on the Respondents in the same suit to give him evidence to argue his case.. It just doesn't make sense..

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Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by OGHENAOGIE(m): 2:52pm On Sep 17, 2023
slivertongue:



he didn't prove anything. uzodinma wrote d results himself which didn't tally with INEC's and Police result sheet yet the court declared him d winner.
so Why did Atiku or obi not write like uzodinma too to win in Court make Ina get out... U guys have issues with uzodinma winning in Court but don't have issues with bayelsa diri winning in Court hypocrites...
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by OGHENAOGIE(m): 2:54pm On Sep 17, 2023
NotProphet:

After u come back from IREV
We can discuss

The funny thing about karma is that e go reach everybody
When PDP were doing theirs then, they thought it will remain that way.
When bad thing hit u or ur family. Never complain
u are very stupid... Wetin concern me with PDP... If u guys like wail til 20 years coming Obi LP can't win presidency... No amount of blackmail ll change that... The only vehicle to presidency is APC or PDP but u pple like delusion... Whatever happens to me is not ur concern so shove ur fake love down ur ass nonsense
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by OGHENAOGIE(m): 2:55pm On Sep 17, 2023
NotProphet:

After u come back from IREV
We can discuss

The funny thing about karma is that e go reach everybody
When PDP were doing theirs then, they thought it will remain that way.
When bad thing hit u or ur family. Never complain
u are very stupid... Wetin concern me with PDP... If u guys like wail til 20 years coming Obi LP can't win presidency... No amount of blackmail ll change that... The only vehicle to presidency is APC or PDP but u pple like delusion... Whatever happens to me is not ur concern so shove ur fake love down ur ass nonsense... Irev shows obi Lost simple
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by Gadafi001(m): 2:55pm On Sep 17, 2023
wink
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by slivertongue: 3:30pm On Sep 17, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
so Why did Atiku or obi not write like uzodinma too to win in Court make Ina get out... U guys have issues with uzodinma winning in Court but don't have issues with bayelsa diri winning in Court hypocrites...


the powers that be arranged the supreme Court. you are at liberty to talk of Bayelsa. Bayelsa's was a fall out of the electoral act which I said here was absurd and because it is absurd, the 2022 electoral act has cured that absurdity. Uzodinma's was the handiwork of the Villa and remain so even the judge won't deny it before the creator.
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by IfnobeGod20: 4:05pm On Sep 17, 2023
Racoon:
Of course Farooq can only continue to grandstand deceiving himself and his gullible followers that all the issues raised @ the PEPT are non-issues. He fully knows that all of them will be serious issues of multiple litigations in his adopted country of the United States that have strong institutions.

We can continue to downplay and rationalise all manners of illegalities and unconstitutionality because we have primordial ethno-religio-regional supremacist sentiments or to be politically correct.
Leave him let him be playing with words thinking he is wise. Kenya presidential election was nullified just because their electoral body refused to follow their electoral guidelines and not because their president didn't win his reelection. Surprisingly they relegated to the background what section 65 of the same electoral act said on what can invalidate an election.

Section 65 Nigeria Electoral Act 2022
Decision of returning officer on ballot paper


(1) The decision of the returning officer shall be final on any question arising from or relating to –
(a) unmarked ballot paper;
(b) rejected ballot paper; and
(c) declaration of scores of candidates and the return of a candidate:

Provided that the Commission shall have the power within seven days to review the declaration and return where the Commission determines that the said declaration and return was not made voluntarily or was made contrary to the provisions of the law, regulations and guidelines, and manual for the election.

The last paragraph is even the cruise of everything. The commission even reserve the right to void an announced results within seven days wherein its detected that the declaration was done against the provisions of the law and guidelines and manual for the election.
'footnote'
Breached of:
1. Provisions of the law (both constitution and Electoral Act)
2. INEC guidelines
3. INEC manual so provided
The breached of any of these three can render the election null and void according to Electoral Act quoted above.
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by BALLOSKI: 4:13pm On Sep 17, 2023
Racoon:
Of course Farooq can only continue to grandstand deceiving himself and his gullible followers that all the issues raised @ the PEPT are non-issues. He fully knows that all of them will be serious issues of multiple litigations in his adopted country of the United States that have strong institutions.

We can continue to downplay and rationalise all manners of illegalities and unconstitutionality because we have primordial ethno-religio-regional supremacist sentiments or to be politically correct.
Where is Faruq guilty of this by this article here?
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by IfnobeGod20: 5:01pm On Sep 17, 2023
membranus:


You gather lies together and started to pontificate on them to satisfy your tribal bias and egoistic sentiments.

With one hand you threw away Kperogi's unbiased analysis of what went wrong in the PEPT judgement, and where Obi and Atiku got it wrong in their petitions. Instead you were disbursing untruth on a candidate's already authenticated certificate as though that is the only thing that will make your own candidate win.

You called everybody tribal bigot, when your own bigotry and hatred of other tribes and religions were crying out for restraint in your piece.

As common with your people, you were chestbeating by egoistically claiming that you have built an international company which even the white men are envious of, when you are not a Musk, a Bezos, or a Gate, or even a Dangote. If you have done that will you have the time to be writing this nonsense on Nairaland?

Oga, please take your morbid anger elsewhere. Whatever your opinions, the truth on the last election as Kperogi stated it still stands.
I am taking aback for you to call the submission of Prof. Kperogi as unbias. Was it not the same Prof. Kperogi that was playing down the reason petitioners will be dwelling on INEC guidelines to prove their cases in court and he even called it primordial issue. But myopically forgot that breached of electoral guidelines void any election no matter the results you or political party fetched according to 2022 Electoral Act.
Hear what section 65 of the electoral act states below:

Section 65 Nigeria Electoral Act 2022
Decision of returning officer on ballot paper


(1) The decision of the returning officer shall be final on any question arising from or relating to –
(a) unmarked ballot paper;
(b) rejected ballot paper; and
(c) declaration of scores of candidates and the return of a candidate:

Provided that the Commission shall have the power within seven days to review the declaration and return where the Commission determines that the said declaration and return was not made voluntarily or was made contrary to the provisions of the law, regulations and guidelines, and manual for the election.

The last paragraph is even the cruise of everything. The commission even reserve the right to void an announced results within seven days wherein its detected that the declaration was done against the provisions of the laws and guidelines and manual for the election.
'footnote'
Breached of:
1. Provisions of the law (both constitution and Electoral Act)
2. INEC guidelines
3. INEC manual so provided
The breached of any of these three can render the election null and void according to Electoral Act quoted above.

Remarkably, it was the same breached of the electoral guidelines that made the Kenya supreme court to void their election in 2017, which was overwhelmingly won by incumbent president Uhuru Kenyatta. Why would an umpire say something and published same for the nation on how they would conduct 2023 General Elections but at the middle of the game changed what they said they would do. Funnyly, they even went international to proclaimed how they would go about the General Elections, even at the Chatham House but same Prof. Kperogi said he didn't see anything wrong for an umpire to double speak and engage in double standard because of where his interest lies and you're saying it was an unbiased statement. What a joke taken too far.
It is only in Nigeria that the process to an election is nothing, whether it is fraudulently done or not, it doesn't matter. Whether the aspirant is a thief or not, it doesn't matter. Whether the results the person presented to INEC is genuine or not, it doesn't matter. Our focus only is for anyone that is not satisfied with the election, should focus only on how he or she won the election and not go after how the umpire burgled the system or what the person presented. Forgetting that our laws are sacrosanct because you cannot build something on nothing.
Both you and Prof. Kperogi are biased commentators and nothing more. We cannot continue to circumvent the system and expect a vibrant system or the system to work for all. If it were in a serious democracies heads would have been rolling after the General Elections but in Nigeria we tend to protect what we ought not to protect.

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Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by Bigkoko: 5:35pm On Sep 17, 2023
Thanks for coming to terms to his moral deficiencies. People like Asiwaju have destroyed lives through his drug past. E.g Hunter Biden, a cocaine junkie. Now you know why the American president would have nothing to do with Asiwaju.

If your idea of Asiwaju is based on blurred results, INEC behaving like a candidate, then I'm pretty sure you are beyond redemption!

Yes while there's nothing I can do individually, collectively, the obidients family worldwide would mount the Needed pressure until the stolen Mandate is retrieved from the usurper!


membranus:


Keep up your self delusion, and your legerdermain, or sleight of hands in twisting the reality of Nigeria political situation. I am sure your fans are hailing you here.

But whatever your belief or your mischief, the truth still stands out. Which is, that, despite whatever might be his moral inadequacies, Tinubu candidly won the last presidential election. And there is nothing you can do about this.
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by Bigkoko: 5:39pm On Sep 17, 2023
Absolutely 💯 agreed!



IfnobeGod20:

I am taking aback for you to call the submission of Prof. Kperogi as unbias. Was it not the same Prof. Kperogi that was playing down the reason petitioners will be dwelling on INEC guidelines to prove their case in court and he even called it primordial issue. But myopically forgot that breached of electoral guidelines void any election no matter the results you or political party fetched.
Hear what section 65 of the electoral act states below:

Section 65 Nigeria Electoral Act 2022
Decision of returning officer on ballot paper


(1) The decision of the returning officer shall be final on any question arising from or relating to –
(a) unmarked ballot paper;
(b) rejected ballot paper; and
(c) declaration of scores of candidates and the return of a candidate:

Provided that the Commission shall have the power within seven days to review the declaration and return where the Commission determines that the said declaration and return was not made voluntarily or was made contrary to the provisions of the law, regulations and guidelines, and manual for the election.

The last paragraph is even the cruise of everything. The commission even reserve the right to void an announced results within seven days wherein its detected that the declaration was done against the provisions of the law and guidelines and manual for the election.
'footnote'
Breached of:
1. Provisions of the law (both constitution and Electoral Act)
2. INEC guidelines
3. INEC manual so provided
The breached of any of these three can render the election null and void according to Electoral Act quoted above.

Remarkably, it was the same breached of the electoral guidelines that made the Kenya' supreme court to void their election in 2017, which was overwhelmingly won by incumbent president Uhuru Kenyatta. Why would an umpire say something and published same for the nation how they would conduct general elections but at the middle of the game changed what they said they would do. Funnyly, they even went international to proclaim how they would go about the general elections, even at the Chatham House but same Prof. said he didn't see anything wrong for an umpire to double speak and engage in double standard because of where his interest lies and you saying it was an unbias statement.
It is only in Nigeria that the process to an election is nothing, whether it is fraudulently done or not, it doesn't matter. Whether the aspirant is a thief or not, it doesn't matter. Whether the results the person presented is genuine or not, it doesn't matter. Our focus or anyone that is not satisfy with the election, should focus only on how he or she won the case and not go after how the umpire burgled the system. What a myopic mindset.
Both you and Prof. Kperogi are bias commentators and nothing more. We cannot continue to circumvent the system and expect a vibrant system or the system to work for all. If it were in a serious democracies heads would have been rolling after the general elections but in Nigeria we tend to protect ought not to be protected.
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by OGHENAOGIE(m): 5:59pm On Sep 17, 2023
slivertongue:



the powers that be arranged the supreme Court. you are at liberty to talk of Bayelsa. Bayelsa's was a fall out of the electoral act which I said here was absurd and because it is absurd, the 2022 electoral act has cured that absurdity. Uzodinma's was the handiwork of the Villa and remain so even the judge won't deny it before the creator.
mtcheew concocting nonsense as usual... Rubbish
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by mycar: 8:42pm On Sep 17, 2023
Rebelutionary:

Maybe just maybe if Obi and Atiku have said half of what you are saying and PRESENTED EVIDENCE maybe you won't be here gnashing your teeth. That is what Farooq is saying and you have immediately labelled because he didn't write what you want to hear. Mr keep emotions aside, this are matters of LAW abeg.
C'mon, what evidence are we talking about, he presented blurred results, they ignored it, they presented witnesses, they rejected the witnesses where they have strong evidence and went ahead to oppose some of the evidences presented by the same witnesses that they rejected.
Even if Atiku and Obi had brought a basket full of evidence, they will still find a way to discountenance it, Farouq knows this but as usual, will keep playing smart by half.
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by mycar: 8:48pm On Sep 17, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
every party is supposed to have agents at all polling units and before results are admitted it's signed by all it's not INEC fault that some mushrooms party claiming they won didn't have agents at all polling units... Uzodinma didn't depend on INEC to win his case... LP PDP had no Case otherwise they would present results they got from all polling units to check if INEC is really lying... What has blurred results to do with election results
what about polling units that election did not take place but results were declared, and when the bvas were to be inspected to establish that, INEC refused?
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by ayinba1(f): 8:52pm On Sep 17, 2023
Jagabanarmy:

Farooq was right , probably you didn't comprehend his kind of writing. Farooq is 100 percent right..read it again for better comprehension

He/She probably wouldn’t. Read his/her post again. Main issue here is that Kperogi didn’t write against a Muslim (or Yoruba). Appealing to emotion NOT facts which is what Kperogi tried to put across. Wisdom is not as common as you think.

FYI, I agree with your take.
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by ayinba1(f): 8:56pm On Sep 17, 2023
membranus:


You gather lies together and started to pontificate on them to satisfy your tribal bias and egoistic sentiments.

With one hand you threw away Kperogi's unbiased analysis of what went wrong in the PEPT judgement, and where Obi and Atiku got it wrong in their petitions. Instead you were disbursing untruth on a candidate's already authenticated certificate as though that is the only thing that will make your own candidate win.

You called everybody tribal bigot, when your own bigotry and hatred of other tribes and religions were crying out for restraint in your piece.

As common with your people, you were chestbeating by egoistically claiming that you have built an international company which even the white men are envious of, when you are not a Musk, a Bezos, or a Gate, or even a Dangote. If you have done that will you have the time to be writing this nonsense on Nairaland?

Oga, please take your morbid anger elsewhere. Whatever your opinions, the truth on the last election as Kperogi stated it still stands.

You said what many wise folks thought! Succinct!

Thank you, quoted so others can reason.

Time**Critical factor.

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Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by OGHENAOGIE(m): 9:25pm On Sep 17, 2023
mycar:

what about polling units that election did not take place but results were declared, and when the bvas were to be inspected to establish that, INEC refused?
stop writing junks ok... Ask your Party agents if u have any what happened... U think this PDP era when results were written before elections finish...
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by Rebelutionary: 9:26pm On Sep 17, 2023
mycar:

C'mon, what evidence are we talking about, he presented blurred results, they ignored it, they presented witnesses, they rejected the witnesses where they have strong evidence and went ahead to oppose some of the evidences presented by the same witnesses that they rejected.
Even if Atiku and Obi had brought a basket full of evidence, they will still find a way to discountenance it, Farouq knows this but as usual, will keep playing smart by half.
1. We can argue this all day long and you wont admit that their counsels did an obviously kindergarten shoddy job but blame "others"!

2. The Supreme court will put a final nail on the legal no-case and we will rest with all the noise after a while.

3. Farooq has all of a sudden become a turncoat all because he said what doesn't sit well with you. That is a major turn off with you people. You can't stand dissent without labeling people. The same Farooq that the OP littered this place with because his opinion pieces were anti-establishment all of a sudden is now on your Judas list. Una go dey alright!
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by slivertongue: 10:04pm On Sep 17, 2023
OGHENAOGIE:
mtcheew concocting nonsense as usual... Rubbish


take chill pill
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by Dblack: 8:34pm On Nov 30, 2023
And you think court will admit your agent result sheets as evidence without it being authenticated by INEC. Let's read in between the lines before we speak
MICHEALADEX:



This opinion is dumb.

INEC will only provide him the results the have announced. It's on obi to prove with is polling unit agents of which his party LP was short of over 44,000 agents

It's on him to prove it and provide all evidence in court and not coming up with cases that are statute bar.

Obi followers should stop being foolish
Re: Pept’s Verdict And The Task Before The Supreme Court By Farooq A. Kperogi by MICHEALADEX(m): 9:48am On Dec 03, 2023
Dblack:
And you think court will admit your agent result sheets as evidence without it being authenticated by INEC. Let's read in between the lines before we speak


See let's be sincere here, obi knows he's got no case

His party failed to file over 44k polling agents, this are agents that should be with original copies of the vote cast as each will have their copy.


So now that they don't have agents there , if the results had come out as 50k votes per unit

How does òbí present the case for over 44k polling units?

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