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Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Luckysbab: 5:26pm On Sep 19, 2023
ValarDoharis:
Your goalkeeper analogy is flawed.

It is either it is treated as a state or not treated as a state. Anyone that is chosen will not be fair at this time unless the constitution is amended. Abuja is not a state but the federal capital territory so its special.

Use your dictionary if you don't know the meaning of some words, you're not here only to argue but to learn

Special to what extent is the subject of debate here.

His analogy follows - The goalkeeper is special to the extent that he is allowed to use his hands. If he makes good saves, but his team loses, will his team then be said to have won?
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by wunmi590(m): 5:38pm On Sep 19, 2023
Babathanks:

I live in abuja. Gbagyi is not even up to Akokos in Ondo state. Talkless of only ibadan ooo. Is non indegene that dominate here. I don't think that state can work because they are not even up to 2 to 3 local govt

You're right, but they should just work on the constitution so that the issue of Abuja this and that won't be bringing up much political issue everytime...
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Hedonisco: 5:45pm On Sep 19, 2023
Yoruba irritants are so disgusting to me now. The useless Falana and Co would exert energy masturbating on inconsequential inanities while stylishly endorsing their ronu brother, the impostor in Aso Rock. At least he is less in your face than the very disgusting bastard called Wole Soyinka.

Eyes don open.
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by timilehin007(m): 5:48pm On Sep 19, 2023
Tetrahedron:
So if the executive powers of FCT reside with the president how come he doesn’t need 25% vote of the same FCT to exercise that power!

Pept has failed and Atiku or Obi should tear their rubbish ruling with the Supreme Court.

I really suspect that drugnubu is not out of the woods yet!

If you are a miscreant-“do and dye”

You be educated illiterate. You just keep going back nd forth. Your statement up there just shows how ignorant you are. Must the president win all states ? He met the criteria, won the number of states per percentage mandated, thus, he doesn’t necessarily needed to win Abuja because Abuja is not more important than other states.

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Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by oyeraff: 5:50pm On Sep 19, 2023
As Falana and Adegoruwa SAN talked now, obidient people will abuse them now for saying this
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Advancedman(m): 6:01pm On Sep 19, 2023
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by NaMe4: 6:08pm On Sep 19, 2023
flokii:
How will an Executive appointee be answerable to the National Assembly?.. Wike as Minister of FCT is directly under the Executive arm of government and must function in such capacity.

I see those not happy that a Southerner is FCT Minister pushing the Kingibe woman. The constitution is clearly spelt out.

It's actually certain 'Southerners' pushing the Kingibe woman. Unfortunately, it's DOA.

The senator just mentioned that to whine some of her party members during her post-tribunal speech.
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by AmazingELixir: 6:16pm On Sep 19, 2023
meum:
Hahaha. I may not be a SAN, but isn’t this clear enough to understand?

“(a) all the legislative powers, the executive powers and the judicial powers vested in the House of Assembly, the governor of a state and in the courts of a state shall, respectively, vest in the National Assembly, the President of the Federation and in the courts which by virtue of the foregoing provisions are courts established for the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.”

Where is the Senator wrong? The same way a state governor seeks legislative approval is what is expected of the President in the case of Abuja. The constitution didn’t recognize any other person so appointed by the president (in this particular section hence the focus on the president). Wike is just a minister who should report to both the president and the National Assembly like any other minister.

It’s true the president might not have the time to administer Abuja so the Minister should represent the president with respect to Abuja & carry the National Assembly along.

The fact that the NASS has oversight responsibilities on the the FCT is not in doubt and in specific term the NASS has a dedicated oversight committee on the FCT that had at one time paid the FCT minister a visit.

For the senator to say that the FCT minister which is an appendage of the executive arm doesn't have executive powers is laughable....Will the national assembly make laws and execute it themselves...isn't that tantamount to usurping the power of the president who is constitutionally recognised as the chief executor In the FCT..

Going by your logic the judges of the Federal High courts in the FCT should also surrender their judicial powers to the NASS which by all intent and purposes will be nothing short of anathema. The Constitution recognizes checks and balances amongst the arms of government but more importantly there are clear boundaries...NASS makes law, the Presidency execute while the judiciary interprets.
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by life707: 6:18pm On Sep 19, 2023
meum:
Hahaha. I may not be a SAN, but isn’t this clear enough to understand?

“(a) all the legislative powers, the executive powers and the judicial powers vested in the House of Assembly, the governor of a state and in the courts of a state shall, respectively, vest in the National Assembly, the President of the Federation and in the courts which by virtue of the foregoing provisions are courts established for the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

READ Again!

Legislative power= The National Assembly
Executive power = The President
Judicial power = FCT Courts
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by CaptainFM1: 6:21pm On Sep 19, 2023
Alliswell248:


At least pretend that you are a learned fellow.
Senior and highly respected SAN's done finish the talk.


It is that pretense that's killing us all. I'm done pretending Sir/Ma.
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Faposky95: 6:22pm On Sep 19, 2023
Racoon:


grin You see the foolish senseless idiots Nigeria have as so called learned people. Always wanting to turn the law or logic on the its head. They creates the law and turned around to destroyed same just to suit their whims and caprices.

They said Abuja is like any other state but they forgot the same constitution stated otherwise and declared that Abuja not a state is answerable to the NASS as it statutory regulatory law body. Is this sheer stupidity or self inflicted ignorance about what the laws says.

It is such blatant retraction from the Law that allows Kingibe's statements, so he also too is in order......
Continuous deceit.....
Rule Of Law....K
Economy...K
Human Rights...k
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by NOETHNICITY(m): 6:56pm On Sep 19, 2023
Racoon:


grin You see the foolish senseless idiots Nigeria have as so called learned people. Always wanting to turn the law or logic on the its head. They creates the law and turned around to destroyed same just to suit their whims and caprices.

They said Abuja is like any other state but they forgot the same constitution stated otherwise and declared that Abuja not a state is answerable to the NASS as it statutory regulatory law body. Is this sheer stupidity or self inflicted ignorance about what the laws says.
Ipobism has finally eroded the last grain of intelligence God gave you.
Go back and read the main article, then come back to delete what posted here

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Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Backpedal: 6:59pm On Sep 19, 2023
Racoon:


grin You see the foolish senseless idiots Nigeria have as so called learned people. Always wanting to turn the law or logic on the its head. They creates the law and turned around to destroyed same just to suit their whims and caprices.

They said Abuja is like any other state but they forgot the same constitution stated otherwise and declared that Abuja not a state is answerable to the NASS as it statutory regulatory law body. Is this sheer stupidity or self inflicted ignorance about what the laws says.
Wow
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Femeto: 7:20pm On Sep 19, 2023
FCT is a special state. The people of that state don't have their destiny's in their hands.
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by ValarDoharis: 7:21pm On Sep 19, 2023
The goalkeeper can be captain, can take penalty kicks, can take free kicks so the goalkeeper is not like a football player, he is a football player!
Luckysbab:


Special to what extent is the subject of debate here.

His analogy follows - The goalkeeper is special to the extent that he is allowed to use his hands. If he makes good saves, but his team loses, will his team then be said to have won?
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by flokii: 7:29pm On Sep 19, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Why do Governors and Presidents send their budgets and appointees to the House of Assembly for approval?

To fulfil all righteousness I guess..
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Luckysbab: 7:36pm On Sep 19, 2023
ValarDoharis:
The goalkeeper can be captain, can take penalty kicks, can take free kicks so the goalkeeper is not like a football player, he is a football player!

Are the outfield players allowed to handle the ball with their hands during play?

Seems like you are arguing against your own point now?

That the goalkeeper is mostly confined to the box 18 area and specially allowed to use his hands doesn't give him superiority over the other players. He's still considered part of the team like other players.

That the FCT is different is description as the "capital" doesn't give the people special voting status over others.

The statement "...states and the FCT" is simply similar to "10 outfield players and the goalkeeper".

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Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by iReddington: 7:51pm On Sep 19, 2023
Racoon:


grin You see the foolish senseless idiots Nigeria have as so called learned people. Always wanting to turn the law or logic on the its head. They creates the law and turned around to destroyed same just to suit their whims and caprices.

They said Abuja is like any other state but they forgot the same constitution stated otherwise and declared that Abuja not a state is answerable to the NASS as it statutory regulatory law body. Is this sheer stupidity or self inflicted ignorance about what the laws says.
You're not a very bright person, you're too dull, I can't believe someone so slow like you could cast aspersions on Tinubu's brilliance and intelligence, when you have gone soft in the head and suffering from serious senile dementia. Your brain has turned to dust. You no sabi anything at all. You just dull.

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Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by focus7: 8:42pm On Sep 19, 2023
Labour Party Senator wants to usurp the power she doesn't have.
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by ValarDoharis: 8:44pm On Sep 19, 2023
So if FCT residents cannot be governors or house of assembly lawmakers while others can, does it not make them inferior?

And thats why the constitution balanced it with their 25% determination of the president who is technically their governor
Luckysbab:


Are the outfield players allowed to handle the ball with their hands during play?

Seems like you are arguing against your own point now?

That the goalkeeper is mostly confined to the box 18 area and specially allowed to use his hands doesn't give him superiority over the other players. He's still considered part of the team like other players.

That the FCT is different is description as the "capital" doesn't give the people special voting status over others.

The statement "...states and the FCT" is simply similar to "10 outfield players and the goalkeeper".
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by MztaIkp(m): 11:09pm On Sep 19, 2023
Now I understand why the drafters of the constitution required a candidate to win 25% of votes in the FCT before one can become President.
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by PopsiAde: 11:30pm On Sep 19, 2023
ijustdey:


https://punchng.com/wike-not-answerable-to-nassembly-falana-adegboruwa/

And some people said Abuja FCT doesn't have a special status!
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by meum: 12:43am On Sep 20, 2023
AmazingELixir:


The fact that the NASS has oversight responsibilities on the the FCT is not in doubt and in specific term the NASS has a dedicated oversight committee on the FCT that had at one time paid the FCT minister a visit.

For the senator to say that the FCT minister which is an appendage of the executive arm doesn't have executive powers is laughable....Will the national assembly make laws and execute it themselves...isn't that tantamount to usurping the power of the president who is constitutionally recognised as the chief executor In the FCT..

Going by your logic the judges of the Federal High courts in the FCT should also surrender their judicial powers to the NASS which by all intent and purposes will be nothing short of anathema. The Constitution recognizes checks and balances amongst the arms of government but more importantly there are clear boundaries...NASS makes law, the Presidency execute while the judiciary interprets.
The logic isn’t different from what you stated. The Minister needs to work with the National Assembly. A governor of a state has executive powers but needs a legislative backing. No reason for all what we are witnessing.
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by meum: 12:47am On Sep 20, 2023
life707:


READ Again!

Legislative power= The National Assembly
Executive power = The President
Judicial power = FCT Courts

Read what you quoted again it’s stated there as well
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Abuloma80(f): 2:15am On Sep 20, 2023
ijustdey:


https://punchng.com/wike-not-answerable-to-nassembly-falana-adegboruwa/



CONTROVERSY CONTROVERSY CONTROVERSY. THIS MAN WIKE JUST LIKES, BELIEVES AND ACTS ON CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES. WHEREVER SUCH EXISTS WIKE IS VERY WILLING TO GO INTO IT. BUT HE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT LIFE AND ACTIVITIES ARE TEMPORARY. HE WILL ONE DAY LEAVE THE OFFICE AND ANOTHER ONE TAKES OVER. ALL THE LAND ALLOCATIONS GIVEN TO HIS LOVED ONES SHALL BE INVESTIGATED FOR DUE PROCESS TO TAKE OVER. HE HAS MAXIMUM OF 8 YEARS TO DO HIS "GRA-GRA". SO HE SHOULD GO ABOUT WITH ISSUES GENTLY-GENTILY. AFTER ALL HE IS NOT THE FIRST NOR THE LAST TO OVERSEE THE ACTIVITIES OF THE FCT AS A MINISTER. MANY CAME AND LEFT!!!
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Menclothing: 7:22am On Sep 20, 2023
Lolz
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by pfadom: 9:45am On Sep 20, 2023
Yeye woman who having contested for the position of FCT Senator several times still does not know the job descriptions.
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Ikaeniyan0: 10:10am On Sep 20, 2023
Racoon:


grin You see the foolish senseless idiots Nigeria have as so called learned people. Always wanting to turn the law or logic on the its head. They creates the law and turned around to destroyed same just to suit their whims and caprices.

They said Abuja is like any other state but they forgot the same constitution stated otherwise and declared that Abuja not a state is answerable to the NASS as it statutory regulatory law body. Is this sheer stupidity or self inflicted ignorance about what the laws says.
Abuja is not a state, but during a presidential election, it will be treated as one of the state.
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Ikaeniyan0: 10:13am On Sep 20, 2023
wunmi590:


This our Nigerian constitution as amended self get as e be for this Abuja issue...

They should just let Abuja be a state, so that all the issue of Abuja this and that will die down...
The Abuja issue no get as e b. It's people like you who have refuse to read and understand what the constitution says on some issues.

Abuja is not a state, but during a presidential election, it will be treated as one of the state. Simple as ABC

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Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Ikaeniyan0: 10:15am On Sep 20, 2023
Tetrahedron:
So if the executive powers of FCT reside with the president how come he doesn’t need 25% vote of the same FCT to exercise that power!

Pept has failed and Atiku or Obi should tear their rubbish ruling with the Supreme Court.

I really suspect that drugnubu is not out of the woods yet!

If you are a miscreant-“do and dye”
It won't make sense if Abuja is made compulsory. Abuja is not special and does not enjoy a special privilege over other states neither do the people there have two heads or have special privilege.
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Ikaeniyan0: 10:19am On Sep 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
Since FCT is like any other state, why not give them their governors and three senators?

How can someone who failed to score 25% determine their lives?
The FCT is not like any other state. The FCT is not up to a state.
Re: Wike Not Answerable To N’assembly — Falana, Adegboruwa by Luckysbab: 11:41am On Sep 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
So if FCT residents cannot be governors or house of assembly lawmakers while others can, does it not make them inferior?

And thats why the constitution balanced it with their 25% determination of the president who is technically their governor

"Technically their governor".

Totally unfounded.

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