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Re: Is Libya An Africa Or Arab Country? by Amujale(m): 2:25am On Oct 30, 2011
Kay 17:

If ancient Egyptians were black, then the Australian Aborigines are africans too! Lol!

The Nwok ppl were working iron yeah, but not at the same time as Egypt. Not that it didnt happen, but we cant say or make such conclusion.

Gbam! The original Australians are African, they migrated from the continent thousands of years ago

Furthermore, due to the carpet destruction of evidence in our major cities & libraries, we have been forced to put up with the Europeanized version of historical events especially ones that suggests that the first African to set foot on American soil was a passenger on one of their slave ships.


Ancien Egyptians were Africans (Nubians were powerful, wealthy and intelligient people who controlled large territories along the Nile) that called the land Kemet; the first pharoahs had pure African blood.

The first 25 dynasties of ancient Egypt was dominated by black Africans i.e Piankhi, Shabaka I, Shakatak, Taharka, Tanutamun, Ramises II e.t.c

Inshort, black Africans migrated to and fro the Americas, Europe and even Asia during periods in history where Europeans were living like wild animals in the forest.


For more information read:

They Came Before Columbus: The African Presence in Ancient America
African Presence in Early America
Blacks in Science: Ancient and Modern (Journal of African Civilizations)
African Presence in Early Europe (Journal of African Civilizations)
African Presence in Early Asia



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Re: Is Libya An Africa Or Arab Country? by Amujale(m): 2:34am On Oct 30, 2011
All the Islamic states in the continent do NOT express the true nature of their origin (well maybe Sudan is an exception). The present population in these countries are a result of North Africas invasion of Europe aswell as Arabian and European invasions of that region shortly after the fall of the Egyptian Empire.

Even the Moors has been subjected to coutless cross-breeding to the extent that one can hardly distinguish them from an Arab. But, if you want to know how the ancient Moors looked like, you only need to look outside for a Fulani, Niger, Chad, Eithopia e.t.c

The Moors are black African 'caucasoid'(sic) and most of the ones in North Africa have at some point cross-bred with the Berger, Arabs, Spanish, Greek e.t.c

Re: Is Libya An Africa Or Arab Country? by BlackLibya: 3:20am On Oct 30, 2011
Caucasoid is a bs term used to describe any people who had any sort of civilization at all that conquered white people or competed with them.

Ask yourself how come a white man from Britain, a Taureg from Mali, and an Indian from Mumbai can all be Caucasian, yet, only a certain group of people that look a particular way can be considered "Negro". The definition of Negro has repeatedly shrunk as white people found more evidence of advanced civilizations in Africa.

This is down to Malians, Ethiopians, Kenyans, and Zimbabweans now being claimed to be caucasoid or "mixed" with it.
Re: Is Libya An Africa Or Arab Country? by Amujale(m): 4:31am On Oct 30, 2011
The term N**** is derogatory and has NO meaning outside of its crazed context. 

BlackLibya:

Ask yourself how come a white man from Britain, a Taureg from Mali, and an Indian from Mumbai can all be Caucasian,

Indeed! unfortunately many Eurocentrics dont even know of this; most are still under the assumption that Caucasian is tantamount to 'white'(sic)

Recent revelation in genetic studies has changed the way the geneticists sees ethnicity but i'm afraid the rest of the so-called world of intellect are still stuck in antiquity.

Re: Is Libya An Africa Or Arab Country? by Kay17: 3:53pm On Oct 30, 2011
You guys history is fantastic. If australian aborigines are africans, since all homo sapiens emerged from africa, then what value is there in making such classifications?

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Re: Is Libya An Africa Or Arab Country? by logic101: 4:38pm On Oct 30, 2011
The steady transformation from black to brown to white becomes even clearer if it is remembered that after the unification of the TwoLands, the whites of Lower Egypt had every legal right to travel and settle in black Upper Egypt . And while there was always a general opposition, there had been a steady infiltration from the beginning . They, like their Libyan kinsmen, always came in a manner that never caused immediate alarm: small numbers spreading out, and then gradually forming separate communities next to an African village, town or city . They became an integral part of life in the provinces, actively supporting the local chiefs (nomarchs), marrying into their families and, by so doing, in time becoming legitimate chiefs themselves . The Asian power base was thus firmly established in provinces, and established so slowly and without fanfare that it appeared to be an imperceptible development . The same changes had been taking place on the national level in some of the royal families.
Asians also marched across the desert from Libya where they had also replaced the indigenous Blacks and were now the dominant population .
phasized, to set the record straight.
There were also, for still another example, "Libyan dynasties," indicated by the Libyan names of the rulers . But who, now, were the Libyans? They were, first of all, Western Ethiopians, then heavily Berber, Mongolian, Arab, a sprinkling of Hebrews and other Asiatic peoples, and then, of course, the resulting Afro-Asians . The ethnic composition of Libya was about the same as that of early Egypt, with the exception that there were fewer Europeans and more Mongolians . Libya was once so nearly all-black that to be called a Libyan meant that one was Black. So the Libyan dynasties during this period could have been predominantly white, black, Afro-Asian or a combination of all three, depending upon what faction was in the ascendency at the time.
Re: Is Libya An Africa Or Arab Country? by Amujale(m): 5:44pm On Oct 30, 2011
logic101:

The steady transformation from black to brown to white becomes even clearer if it is remembered that after the unification of the TwoLands, the whites of Lower Egypt had every legal right to travel and settle in black Upper Egypt . And while there was always a general opposition, there had been a steady infiltration from the beginning . They, like their Libyan kinsmen, always came in a manner that never caused immediate alarm: small numbers spreading out, and then gradually forming separate communities next to an African village, town or city . They became an integral part of life in the provinces, actively supporting the local chiefs (nomarchs), marrying into their families and, by so doing, in time becoming legitimate chiefs themselves . The Asian power base was thus firmly established in provinces, and established so slowly and without fanfare that it appeared to be an imperceptible development . The same changes had been taking place on the national level in some of the royal families.
Asians also marched across the desert from Libya where they had also replaced the indigenous Blacks and were now the dominant population .
phasized, to set the record straight.
There were also, for still another example, "Libyan dynasties," indicated by the Libyan names of the rulers . But who, now, were the Libyans? They were, first of all, Western Ethiopians, then heavily Berber, Mongolian, Arab, a sprinkling of Hebrews and other Asiatic peoples, and then, of course, the resulting Afro-Asians . The ethnic composition of Libya was about the same as that of early Egypt, with the exception that there were fewer Europeans and more Mongolians . Libya was once so nearly all-black that to be called a Libyan meant that one was Black. So the Libyan dynasties during this period could have been predominantly white, black, Afro-Asian or a combination of all three, depending upon what faction was in the ascendency at the time.

Indeed! Libyans were originally black just like the Morrocans
Re: Is Libya An Africa Or Arab Country? by BlackLibya: 12:41am On Oct 31, 2011
Indeed! Libyans were originally black just like the Morrocans

Many Moroccans still look black. Morocco is the one country in "north africa" where most of the people look black.

In fact, Morocco seems to have figured prominently in the history of West Africa, which geographically it is a part of, but the whites and arabicized inhabitants will not let it due to their color line.

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Re: Is Libya An Africa Or Arab Country? by siben236: 3:14pm On Sep 20, 2013
My wife and her family are from Libya and lived under Gaddafi rule before escaping to the US. I'm not an expert but I know that they DO NOT consider themselves black, even the libyans or other arabs I've met that have black skin DO NOT consider themselves black, they consider themselves arab. It really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks other than the people in question, and they all consider themselves arabic. That's not to say there hasn't been some intergration through the ages but Egyptians and Libyans DO NOT, and have never, considered themselves black african. They are pretty particular and say we are North African Arabs. They take care enough to even avoid saying they are African because they don't want to give the misconception to people that they are black.

Maybe there were black africans there in the beggining but calling Libyans black african presently would be like calling all Americans Indians. (That's a bit extreme give the US diversity but u get the point)
Re: Is Libya An Africa Or Arab Country? by mychelle7: 5:56am On Jan 27, 2015
you were right to say how important a timeline would have made...but the historical fact is that through the ages the "Semites" have been intermingling with "African" nations since their beginnings. about 2700 yrs. ago.(prior to becoming a mixed race) just look at what their name referrers too Semi meaning half, half what? Half White and Half Black. which puts them in the middle...middle what middle East, in between Africa and Europe. before that these so-called Israelites and Ishmaelite's original Arabs were Hebrew in nature (Black) look at the etymology of the word Hebrew...to cross over-cross over what? NOT LAND, god owned all the land, it was CROSS_BREEDIND!
Re: Is Libya An Africa Or Arab Country? by mychelle7: 6:12am On Jan 27, 2015
That last reply is true, if we talk PRESENTLY, Libya was all Black in antiquity (Kush/Nubians/even mythical Gorgons Black Amazon warriors and the ancient Babylonian god-Baal is originally from Libya) but today these Half originals or Semite type people are Islamic and in Islam there is no-colors, so they wont refer themselves to Africa they are more in support to religious matters not continental nationalist.

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