They are lay down roles in Catholic church if u want to touch or make impact in ur church of assignments not necessarily mean open ministries up and down. If everyone in Catholic will start venturing in to ministries, business and politics who will then lead the church.

freemanq:
Heard an opportunity to be close to church authority some years back, most senior ministers of the gospel are always jealous of the younger ministers who are spirit filled. And are touching the lives of members of the church.

Father now threatening father..
Who go come settle them like this so??

This is the problem I have with the church in the East. I may have to write to the faithfuls the same way St. Paul wrote to many faithfuls in the biblical times . Some of these spiritual fathers always behave like demi gods, disrespecting their diocesan Bishops. The Bishops in the east seems very weak before their reverend fathers. Once a reverend father starts gathering some "believers " to his side with one week day prayers or the other, he would start forming superman and invisible. I am not a fan of all these so called holy ghost fathers that keeps bringing disrepute to the Catholic Church.

Fathers Mbaka, Ebube Muo Nso and their likes falls into the categories I mentioned. People flock to all these prayer ministries because of the man made hardships imposed on us by the successive governments in Nigeria. You are aware that once most nigerians leaves the shores of this country to the countries were things work, they stop disturbing God.

These fathers needs to be put on check. You can't try any rubbish within the Lagos archdiocese. Bishop Adewale Martins will discipline you sharp sharp......no waste of time. He was brought up well by Cardinal Okogie.... a no nonsense clergy man. The church hierarchy in the east needs to purge itself of bad leadership and reform itself within so that the Catholic Church there should be in the way and manner it was set up by the Irish missionaries that built one of the most revered institutions east of the Niger.

AntiChristian:
Numbers 31:17-18
So now, kill all the boys, as well as every woman who has had relations with a man, but spare for yourselves every girl who has never had relations with a man.

It's worse from Israel now! They will block people's livelihood (I wonder why they control it in the first place) and even kill babies!

Israelites are even posting videos wasting water to spite the Palestinians that have no water!

God punish Israel, USA and their supporters!

You said God should punish Israel, have you not read it in the same bible that anyone on who curses Israel shall be cursed, and anyone who blesses Israel shall be blessed?

Charlatan!

Leave the Catholic church.

Who is holding you??

I only pity the ignorant and desperate people you deceive and extort.

All these yahoo yahoo demonic Reverend fathers

BeigJawnson:



You said God should punish Israel, have you not read it in the same bible that anyone on who curses Israel shall be cursed, and anyone who blesses Israel shall be blessed?

Which Israel was that? Is it the Israel that was created on Palestinian land in 1948?

You're ignorantly mistaken!

AntiChristian:


Which Israel was that? Is it the Israel that was created on Palestinian land in 1948?

You're ignorantly mistaken!

Keep cursing them... Shebi me is not you, and you is not me.. Ride on, na your bicycle...

BeigJawnson:



Keep cursing them... Shebi me is not you, and you is not me.. Ride on, na your bicycle...

Answer the question and don't run away!

These so Called Adoration Ministries will DESTROY the Catholic church in Nigeria!

It makes Priests become GREEDY and Money Conscious!.

In Ghana, other African, European and South American countries,
You can't find such Distractions! 😕

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Focusmind:
This is the problem I have with the church in the East. I may have to write to the faithfuls the same way St. Paul wrote to many faithfuls in the biblical times . Some of these spiritual fathers always behave like demi gods, disrespecting their diocesan Bishops. The Bishops in the east seems very weak before their reverend fathers. Once a reverend father starts gathering some "believers " to his side with one week day prayers or the other, he would start forming superman and invisible. I am not a fan of all these so called holy ghost fathers that keeps bringing disrepute to the Catholic Church.

Fathers Mbaka, Ebube Muo Nso and their likes falls into the categories I mentioned. People flock to all these prayer ministries because of the man made hardships imposed on us by the successive governments in Nigeria. You are aware that once most nigerians leaves the shores of this country to the countries were things work, they stop disturbing God.

These fathers needs to be put on check. You can't try any rubbish within the Lagos archdiocese. Bishop Adewale Martins will discipline you sharp sharp......no waste of time. He was brought up well by Cardinal Okogie.... a no nonsense clergy man. The church hierarchy in the east needs to purge itself of bad leadership and reform itself within so that the Catholic Church there should be in the way and manner it was set up by the Irish missionaries that built one of the most revered institutions east of the Niger.

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All you said here is complete trash

rukyboy:
Charlatan!

Leave the Catholic church.

Who is holding you??

I only pity the ignorant and desperate people you deceive and extort.

All these yahoo yahoo demonic Reverend fathers

Very senseless comment from you

AntiChristian:


Answer the question and don't run away!

Which question...? I am not running away. If I know the answer I will tell you. Mind you I am saying you should also quote where it says in the bible that anyone who curses Israel shall be cursed... So I am not in here to answer questions, and you can't shame me for that... Keep cursing Israel .... You is not me and me is not you... Lobatan

ex cultist turn rev father. i hate d man

PinkNature:
Martin Looters.

makes Priests become GREEDY and Money Conscious!. sad

In Ghana, other African, European and South American countries,
You can't find such Distractions! 😕

BeigJawnson:


Which question...? I am not running away. If I know the answer I will tell you. Mind you I am saying you should also quote where it says in the bible that anyone who curses Israel shall be cursed... So I am not in here to answer questions, and you can't shame me for that... Keep cursing Israel .... You is not me and me is not you... Lobatan

Which Israel are you talking about? The biblical Israel or the Israel that helped the west win world war and were given a small part of Palestine in 1948!

AntiChristian:


Which Israel are you talking about? The biblical Israel or the Israel that helped the west win world war and were given a small part of Palestine in 1948!

I don't know if there are two Israels....

I pity this father

athaboi:


Mbaka noise maker, always looking for where there is trouble to go and be using it to trend.... The Catholic bishop of nsukka spent all his life abroad, in shot he is the first black man to be appointed vice chancellor pontifica university in Rome. So once you are doing anything like creating your own ministry outside the doctrines of catholic church...you don't expect him to support you. Blacks are always looking for where they will use church to exploit their people. Creating ministry where they will be making money up and down, obey your Bishop... it's that simple

True .... the Catholic Church has its boundaries so I'm not understanding why he would going beyond the boundaries and complain of being suppressed. Why would Mbaka even support him?... is it because he is "winning souls" which will result in more money? He can't form his own ministry within a ministry .... he should just leave and enjoy all the incone from the souls he won .... after all .. this is all about the money.

AntiChristian:
Numbers 31:17-18
So now, kill all the boys, as well as every woman who has had relations with a man, but spare for yourselves every girl who has never had relations with a man.

It's worse from Israel now! They will block people's livelihood (I wonder why they control it in the first place) and even kill babies!

Israelites are even posting videos wasting water to spite the Palestinians that have no water!

God punish Israel, USA and their supporters!

Please the world didn't start existing in 1917 or 1948... even the Qur'an also specifies that the Land of Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people.

Wannabenz:


Please the world didn't start existing in 1917 or 1948... even the Qur'an also specifies that the Land of Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people.

You are right! But the land owners don die finish!
As far as I can understand is the last 100 years!

Palestine was first there before Israel came in 1948!
And they keep pushing Palestinians every day!

In all these, I pity the poor souls that have to listen to these individuals.

BeigJawnson:


I don't know if there are two Israels....

Alright! It's okay! But try and know so that we don't argue blindly!

Association and support should be on righteousness and not on oppressions!

I was surprised when read a story about the said Rev. Father inviting people like odumeje to his adoration.

This is one of the major problems with Catholic practice in the south east. Many rev. Fathers want to create their own ministries and practice outside of the church jurisdiction. The problem with this is that people begin to worship them like the Pentecostals worship their pastors.

It hardly happens in the southwestern Catholic Churches. Most ministries are usually within the pius societies and other organized groups within the Catholic Church.

GuruboiNaija:


https://.ng/2023/10/15/nsukka-catholic-bishop-vs-fr-obayi-dont-exceed-your-boundary-mbaka-fumes/

Mbaka and his likes priests should leave the Catholic Church if they feel oppressed by the rules guiding the Catholic Priesthood and join the Pentecostals. Do they see anybody detecting to Oyedepo, Adebayo,Eneche etc in their quest to fleece their Sheep. They should all shut up already

Gryffindor:
These are priest who took an oath of Obedience, Chastity & poverty before God,the church & their local ordinary (the bishop) but once they're done taking this oath, the reverse is always the case.

Take it anywhere the bishop is surely coming out on top of this,no matter the dust this raises,this is a fight between the Rev Fr. Obayi,his adoration ministry & the Bishop who stands for the pope,who represents the church from what I've deciphered so far.

You can't be wiser than your father nor the church in this case period #MyOpine

I think the south eastern Catholic Church has a lot to do to curb the excesses from these priests. They want to enjoy the same lifestyle the Pentecostal pastors enjoy. This hardly happen in the South western Catholic Church because they know their oath is binding, and the Bishop has the final say on any matter which the priests must obey. The same issue is affecting the Anglican churches over there too.

Dexy4yah:


Very senseless comment from you

Retard.

Take your madness out of here

GuruboiNaija:


https://.ng/2023/10/15/nsukka-catholic-bishop-vs-fr-obayi-dont-exceed-your-boundary-mbaka-fumes/

Mbaka the church version of FFK.

AntiChristian:


Alright! It's okay! But try and know so that we don't argue blindly!

Association and support should be on righteousness and not on oppressions!

Who started this recent war, Hamas or Israel?

Everybody should just avoid church.