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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Pakute: 12:25pm On Oct 20, 2023
Kukutente23:

Explain how minister of finance is a bigger and powerful profile than foreign affairs.
Ignorant mofo
I haven't seen anyone dumber, henceforth, i have added you into kid's register.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Loonyy(m): 12:25pm On Oct 20, 2023
MASTERCHIEF0847:

Please read my comment again, it i did not base it solely on oil prices but you cannot take out the fact that that was during an era of oil boom worldwide and every oil producing nation benefited from increased revenues so its a factor oga.
I also made emphasis on his good economic team and policies.
In reality, all the governments since 1999 have all failed so personally am not giddy about any.


It's really not about the oil price boom after all Ameachi ensured him and his Goons Devoured the Excess Crude account which GEJ tried to save for a day like this

That' been said
GEJ had better managers
Sanusi
Ngozi
Nebo etc
Made sure dey coordinate the Economy
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by mikeapollo: 12:25pm On Oct 20, 2023
Kukutente23:

That's a lie. PWC said $1.5bn and not $20bn was what was unremitted. Mind you, Sanusi kept changing figures per week which made NOI request for a forensic audit

You are a liar.
Sanusi never lied. He was proved right!
The $20bilion that was missing was confirmed by both PWC and the Senate committee.
Jonathan was also a mess in his time. He brought in Emefiele as CBN governor.... now see what Emefiele has done and the clueless Tinubu with his useless policies too.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by kenex4ever(m): 12:25pm On Oct 20, 2023
MASTERCHIEF0847:
Crude oil prices were at its highest levels during GEJ days which was an advantage and also he had a good and competent economic team led by Ngozi Okonjo Iweala and other economic and financial experts who were picked based on merit instead of nepotism and political patronage as it was during Buhari and now under Tinubu.
Nigeria is now heading into “Gangster Capitalism “ like we had in countries like Russia,Romania,Belarus and other former Soviet Union states…the economy being controlled by criminals and outlaws with government power.
Oil price has been high since Russia war started, so Tinubu has enjoyed a good oil price but things are getting worse by the day.

Lagos is not Nigeria

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by 43Ronin: 12:26pm On Oct 20, 2023
MASTERCHIEF0847:

Even the PDP presidents failed. For example under OBJ $16 billion NIPP project failed with the money gone, under GEJ his petroleum minister was arrested in the UK with £18.5 billion, where did the money come from? These people are all the same PDP and APC and whatever platform they come under.
Among oil producing countries Nigeria has the least developed public infrastructure with the little available also dilapidated.
£18.5 billion oponu statistics
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by GeneralDae: 12:26pm On Oct 20, 2023
Angelfrost:


Keep making excuses for APC... Las las, we shall see how many people excuses go feed. tongue
But it's the truth. On average, revenues to Jonathan yearly was above 70 Billion dollars. By the time of Buhari in 2016, it was down to around 25 Billion dollars caused by Niger Delta Avengers and lower oil prices globally.
There was always going to be an impact.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by mikeapollo: 12:27pm On Oct 20, 2023
valentineuwakwe:
He assemble the best brains in and outside Nigeria......thus he was able to succeed. I hope that is wat Tinubu is doing!

Jonathan did not appoint any best brains in and outside Nigerians.
Most of the people in his administration were the people that Yara'dua appointed before he died.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Justiceleague1: 12:28pm On Oct 20, 2023
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by just2endowed: 12:28pm On Oct 20, 2023
nairalanda1:


Even then, at the end of the day, Nigeria no dey earn enough money. For a nation our size.

Noi excess crude account was a wise idea tho.

She forsee everything. It was in obasanjo time that she champion excess crude account stuff.

She also champion the TSA

It was like Nigeria economy was at her palm.

She has strong link inside the imf and world bank yet she didn't dance to their tune.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Angelfrost(m): 12:28pm On Oct 20, 2023
GeneralDae:

But it's the truth. On average, revenues to Jonathan yearly was above 70 Billion dollars. By the time of Buhari in 2016, it was down to around 25 Billion dollars caused by Niger Delta Avengers and lower oil prices globally.
There was always going to be an impact.

Yeah... But that doesn't excuse his poor management of an economy in crisis.

The Bible talks about he that is faithful in little...!

The key word of the day and thread is "Manage"!

Buhari failed to manage a gradually deteriorating situation, and succeeded in pushing the nation further into the economic abyss.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by aylagos(m): 12:29pm On Oct 20, 2023
NzogbuNzogbu:
that tinubu is a fraud and failure which is glaring

No matter how much you hide your tinubu bias I would always expose it, i already know una

The group that want to always exonorate tinubu while pretending its other stuff aside tinubu that is the problem
For your mind nah you get sense….go back to school cos your reasoning is very myopic. Most you guys need proper education especially political education.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Justiceleague1: 12:30pm On Oct 20, 2023
Pakute:

Did GEJ experience recession?, No.
Did GEJ experience pipeline vandalism and production shortfalls?, No
Did GEJ experience Covid?, No.
Did GEJ experience Ukrain/Russia war that's affecting food prices? No.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by GeneralDae: 12:32pm On Oct 20, 2023
kenex4ever:
Oil price has been high since Russia war started, so Tinubu has enjoyed a good oil price but things are getting worse by the day.

Lagos is not Nigeria
Jonathan had oil production at around 2.5 million barrels per day compared to the present 1.4 million bpd. Obasanjo and Yar adua left him 22 Billion dollars in excess crude account and he also had the highest oil prices ever in our history, yet he depleted foreign reserves from 44 Billion dollars to 28 Billion dollars. Depleted Excess crude account from 22 Billion dollars to 2 Billion dollars and increased our debt from 35 Billion dollars to 67 Billion dollars.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Sibetolo: 12:32pm On Oct 20, 2023
Same way I successfully manged my girlfriend 28 years back then but cannot successfuly do same for a girl of the same age these days. But do I have to go back to that era and time ? No
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by ufotunang: 12:32pm On Oct 20, 2023
The APC was just desperate for power...they had nothing to offer....they have a lot of incompetent politcians in power...just to give excuses and blame PDP for their failures and incompetence

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by seguno2: 12:33pm On Oct 20, 2023
qwertyuioplm:
Despite paying for subsidy and not a producing nation exchange rate moved from 140-180 ,what type of magic did he perform

He was the most capitalist of the three PDP presidents, and he was not a big headed, egoistic , who pretends to be all knowing like Obasanjo, so that his cabinet of technocrats could be free to work with their own ideas. Yar’Adua was a clueless communist like his fellow Katsina state man Buhari.

Unfortunately, Jonathan was truly clueless about our geopolitics, hence why he couldn’t win reelection.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Justiceleague1: 12:33pm On Oct 20, 2023
MASTERCHIEF0847:

You mean the same Okonjo Iweala who under OBJ as finance minister cleared Nigeria’s debt? Go and sit down oga, am hyping her until you name a better finance minister Nigeria has ever produced.
Meanwhile from your comment it seems na you dey bring beer joint talk come online forum.
Don't waste your time on that human being...he is a known tribalist and ethnic bigot on here...he never sees anything good about certain people.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by ufotunang: 12:34pm On Oct 20, 2023
What do you expect when since 2015 you voted for old men to be in power till now.. what do you expect

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by AK481(m): 12:35pm On Oct 20, 2023
MASTERCHIEF0847:

Even the PDP presidents failed. For example under OBJ $16 billion NIPP project failed with the money gone, under GEJ his petroleum minister was arrested in the UK with £18.5 billion, where did the money come from? These people are all the same PDP and APC and whatever platform they come under.
Among oil producing countries Nigeria has the least developed public infrastructure with the little available also dilapidated.
During thief pdp time , economic indicators were good ,enjoyment everywhere . In righteous apc time , omo !

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Wizpa(m): 12:35pm On Oct 20, 2023
Finneseguy1:
The pepper Apc dey show us eh , e reach full drum

You think it's funny! Continue playing lipsrsealed
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by shonepa(m): 12:35pm On Oct 20, 2023
Goodluck jona..... share money round no look uche face.

Na there u go no say being good isn't always enough.

Jonathan lost becos the ppl want PDP out, his personality no concern dem.

For Naija na party we dey vote for.



Varunpulyani:
Jonathan did not use quota system
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by onuman: 12:36pm On Oct 20, 2023
NzogbuNzogbu:
Uits not by oilprice, buhari had fair enough oil price and killed this country

Mr master strategist is now burying it, if gej had half the pateience yorubas are giving tinubu he would have done more

They didn't give him breathing space, manufactured Boko haram, always creating sabotage but he is still miles above them


Ha ha ha. They want to control proceeds from crude oil in the Niger delta region, to further develop their region, and entertain themselves with their music: the SE region is village and erosion ravaged, the SS people are ogogoro drinkers and clueless people.
That's all about their struggles for Tinubu must rule struggle.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by seguno2: 12:36pm On Oct 20, 2023
valentineuwakwe:
He assemble the best brains in and outside Nigeria......thus he was able to succeed. I hope that is wat Tinubu is doing!

Tinubu ministers are former governors who helped him win his Ẹnikanlomọ shege presidency, apart from himself, his Vice President and the Senate President along with other senators who are also former governors.

Tinubu is a master politician but an olodo of governance.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by HeroicMeastro: 12:37pm On Oct 20, 2023
nairalanda1:



No, GEj was not the genesis of our problems

Our problem starts with the fact that we export things whose prices we cannot control

Developed countries are countries that export stuff whose prices they can control

Most African countries are like Nigeria, and like Nigeria, they sell things whose prices they cannot control

Been like that since independence. The problem is none of our leaders thought it would be wise to change the paradigm.
I totally disagree with your point. Countries like UAE, Qatar, and the likes do import almost all their consumables, but they are not bad as Nigeria. It's all about planning, savings and savings.
Issue of export may not necessarily come up if there is a conducive environment to consume what we produce.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by mrvitalis(m): 12:38pm On Oct 20, 2023
forgiveness:


Wale Edun meets 2nd and 3rd criteria. Stop lying. Somebody wey co-founded a bank, worked with world bank, was commissioner of finance etc doesn't have experience in economic policy formulation, abi? grin


The job of the two-term Commissioner for Finance in Lagos State between 1999 and 2007 seems to be cut out for him. With a Bachelor’s Degree in Economics from the University of London, a Master’s in Economics from the University of Sussex, England, has achieved remarkable success in the financial sector at local and international levels.
Edun worked at the World Bank/IFC where he handled economic and financial packages for several countries in Latin America and the Caribbean, including the Dominican Republic, Trinidad, Indonesia, and India in the Far East. However, his new task of managing an economy with virtually all the economic fundamentals precipitously heading south requires extraordinary measures. Inflation is at an 18-year high, the local currency is completely battered, debt service obligations have reached unprecedented levels while revenue generation is abysmally low. With an additional responsibility to coordinate the economy, he is expected to quickly gravitate towards some framework for policy coordination with the monetary authorities. Focus should be how to navigate the economy away from dire straits, tame inflation, boost revenue and instil cost-cutting measures/wastages in public service.


Now, that meet your requirements, do you still have others others you would like to present? grin
Is hope you can read? Read that criteria again read what you wrote

Edun doesn't even have PhD mere MSC holder
Majority of his experience is micro economics

Am sure you don't even know the difference between Macro and micro economics

Read the criteria again this time slowly
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Ulunne777(f): 12:39pm On Oct 20, 2023
walexbiz:
He too was part of the problem. He didn't save during the raining days and he too went on spending spree even when the price of crude oil was high. He failed to repair the ailing refineries, placed the surveillance of crude pipeline in the hands of militant and there was upsurge in illegal siphoning of crude oil. Sanusi raised alarm about squandering of 20bn USD by NNPC and up till today nobody was arrested
Who saved the "wheat pool levy account"your brother and his aides took part of it to go enjoy themselves?
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by nairalanda1(m): 12:39pm On Oct 20, 2023
HeroicMeastro:

I totally disagree with your point. Countries like UAE, Qatar, and the likes do import almost all their consumables, but they are not bad as Nigeria. It's all about planning, savings and savings.
Issue of export may not necessarily come up if there is a conducive environment to consume what we produce.


UAE and Qatar also have 12 million and 1.8 million people respectively and produce more oil than we do

So they gat the revenue to import, pay for subsides , leave something for the Amir and his geng, and still have lots left over.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by kunleham(m): 12:39pm On Oct 20, 2023
Everything in life is about the base. Obasanjo created the base to excel for them. He cleared the debt, created substantial external reserve which provided backing for the exchange rate.
Jonathan depleted the reserves, increase debt, corruption etc.
But now, the debts is so huge that it takes 95% of our income to service, he cleared the reserves totally, took corruption to a new height which have jointly constituted a clog for the new government.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by sonofthunder: 12:40pm On Oct 20, 2023
qwertyuioplm:
Despite paying for subsidy and not a producing nation exchange rate moved from 140-180 ,what type of magic did he perform



Jonathan did not manage economy. Oil prices where high and oil theft was low so money was coming in. But it was already collapsing due to poor policies. Emefiele did a good job to help destroy anything left.


Despite the money from oil export, our economy experienced marginally low growth until Jonathan threatened IMF/World bank that he has done cassava bread and other rubbish so they should change their report grin grin grin grin grin

He did little to no reasonable investments except maybe for the New Federal universities, and the presidential scholarship schemes which to me is a failure because 95% of the people who got the scholarships ran out of the country with our money and have no plans to return with said knowledge.


We shouldn't decieve ourselves, all our presidents from 1999 to date have been failures. Maybe small exemption for Obasanjo but he should have done more. Yar A' Dua we keep claiming would have made a good president but I doubted that. His reversal of refinery sale gave room for money to be stolen via TAM maintenance under Jonathan and Buhari first tenure by so called cabals.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by seguno2: 12:41pm On Oct 20, 2023
MASTERCHIEF0847:
Crude oil prices were at its highest levels during GEJ days which was an advantage and also he had a good and competent economic team led by Ngozi Okonjo Iweala and other economic and financial experts who were picked based on merit instead of nepotism and political patronage as it was during Buhari and now under Tinubu.
Nigeria is now heading into “Gangster Capitalism “ like we had in countries like Russia,Romania,Belarus and other former Soviet Union states…the economy being controlled by criminals and outlaws with government power.

Crude oil prices and revenue were not highest during Jonathan’s 2010-2015 administration.

Buhari and Tinubu’s APC are not capitalists. They are pseudo progressive socialists who share money to people who are not working, thereby destroying the economy.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by DIVINEEVIDENCE: 12:42pm On Oct 20, 2023
Pakute:

Did GEJ experience recession?, No.
Did GEJ experience pipeline vandalism and production shortfalls?, No
Did GEJ experience Covid?, No.
Did GEJ experience Ukrain/Russia war that's affecting food prices? No.

Did GEJ experience recession?
Are you kidding me?

Is recession not the product of a county's economic policies and activities?
Why make is sound as if it is something that falls from the sky once in a few years?

GEJ continued the Amnesty program laid down by President Umar Musa Yar' Adua.
Why would he experience pipeline vandalism?

Did Buhari and Emilokan experience Ebola?
A disease far worse and more communicable than COVID which never really affected Africans.
Its on record that most of the dust raised over COVID in Nigeria was audio, with the government cashing out massively using the school feeding programme and vulnerable households talks as well as witholding donations in cash and foodstuffs.

What the heck concerns Nigeria with Ukraine/Russia war?
Una go make excuses for everything.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by miceroms: 12:42pm On Oct 20, 2023
Was there really a magic wand in his time? Just pray time and chance work in your favor.

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