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Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by pendusky(m): 4:59am On Oct 25, 2011
Check out Muammar
Gaddafi's Leadership in Libya.
1.There was no electricity bill in Libya;
electricity was free for all its citizens
2. There was no interest on loans, banks in
Libya are state-owned and loans given to all
its citizens at 0%, interest by law
3. Home considered a human right in Libya –
Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get
a house until everyone in Libya had a home.
Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife
and his mother are still living in a tent
4. All newly weds in Libya receive $60,000
Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy
their first apartment so to help start up the
family
5. Education and medical treatments are free
in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans
are literate. Today the figure is 83%
6. Should Libyans want to take up farming
career, they would receive farming land, a
farming house, equipments, seeds and
livestock to kick-start their farms –all for free
7. If Libyans cannot find the education or
medical facilities they need in Libya, the
government funds them to go abroad for it –
not only free but they get US$2,300/mth
accommodation and car allowance
8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the
government subsidized 50% of the price
9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 (N22)
per litre
10. Libya has no external debt and its
reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen
globally
11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment
after graduation the state would pay the
average salary of the profession as if he or
she is employed until employment is found.
12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited
directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan
citizens
13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive
US$5,000
14. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest
irrigation project, known as the Great Man-
Made River project, to make water readily
available throughout the desert country
So What's d Problem? The long rule?
What about the thieves that rule us only 8yrs,
did any of them achieve any thing for us in
this list
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by babyboy3(m): 9:17am On Oct 26, 2011
Thats not fair comparison


Gadhaffi vs Ojukwu

That's a fair comparison
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by micy212: 9:21am On Oct 26, 2011
Gadaffi b4 verses Nnamdi Azikiwe
@op You b4 2005 vs Gadaffi. I think you stink, tongue
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by deco2come: 9:25am On Oct 26, 2011
If these are all true, why would Libyans still want him to withdraw. Am I missing something here. I haven't seen anywhere in the world that has such benefits. Can someone tell me if this really true.

If these are true, believe me most embassies in Nigeria will be looking for marketing manager to market their visa
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by trusted(m): 9:30am On Oct 26, 2011
I TESTIFY TO THE ABOVE. I spent 3 month in Libya in 2003, the experience was unforgettable.  I wonder what went wrong with him.
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by linkin8k(m): 9:34am On Oct 26, 2011
No Nigerian leader can do the stuff he did. We care too much about ourselves to help others or the country. Always complaining about bad leadership but we have to understand that change start from the people's mentality towards the country. Maybe we need a "Gaddafi before 2005" in this country
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by kshow1(m): 9:45am On Oct 26, 2011
trusted:

I TESTIFY TO THE ABOVE. I spent 3 month in Libya in 2003, the experience was unforgettable.  I wonder what went wrong with him.
Libyans wanted a change in leadership after ruling for so long.


deco2come:

If these are all true, why would Libyans still want him to withdraw. Am I missing something here. I haven't seen anywhere in the world that has such benefits. Can someone tell me if this really true.

If these are true, believe me most embassies in Nigeria will be looking for marketing manager to market their visa


Ghadafi's major problem was that he was sponsoring terrorism.
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by kenjudy(m): 9:50am On Oct 26, 2011
@trusted: the question is not what went wrong with him but why the people decided to listen to their enemies and destroyed their God giving country.  was shocked myself when a friend that lived in tripoli told me of his good deeds when he got back from there during the war. Tho he wasn't an Angel becos no one is but still one of the best comparing to other world leaders i've heard of.
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by born2boink(m): 9:56am On Oct 26, 2011
Gaddafi vs Obasanjo (both longest term serving for each nation)
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by jaybee(f): 10:40am On Oct 26, 2011
deco2come:

If these are all true, why would Libyans still want him to withdraw. Am I missing something here. I haven't seen anywhere in the world that has such benefits. Can someone tell me if this really true.

If these are true, believe me most embassies in Nigeria will be looking for marketing manager to market their visa


from the literature i have read so far, moat of the things listed by the poster are facts and verifiable.

it is also verifiable that he ruled for about fourty-two years.

he was a tough leader who loved his country above individuals (both internally and externally) with a kind heart. hence his soclailist welfarist and collectivist approach to leadership.

Libyans wanted change (and democrazy)  even if it is for worse.

now they've got the change and are about get democrazy.

Goodluck to them. grin
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by Nobody: 10:42am On Oct 26, 2011
[size=15pt]What does it mean by you guys comparing Ghadaffi and Ojukwu. Does it mean a similar faith awaits the Biafran war lord. Just thinking.[/size] undecided
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by born2boink(m): 10:56am On Oct 26, 2011
They Need Dem O Crazy
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by Claus(m): 11:00am On Oct 26, 2011
Gaddafi's human rights record is terrible.

You can't claim to love a people collectively, but hate a good number individually (i.e. those that disagreed with him). Gaddafi crushed any dissenting voice ruthlessly and was happy to turn Libya into his family's kingdom, grooming his son to take over.

No matter how many carrots you give them, history has shown that people do not put up with that kind of oppression forever.

I commend him for his socialist policies, they are certainly better than the Nigerian leadership who seemed to just appropriate the nation's wealth for themselves without improving the lot of the people.

However, we are not comparing like with like. Nigeria's population is about 20 times that of Libya, while our GDP is only about 3 times that of Libya. There's a LOT more money to share round in Libya. That's not excusing the incompetence of the Nigerian leaders though.
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by deavicky(m): 11:12am On Oct 26, 2011
i was trying to post something yesterday i couldn't. I never had the opportunity to  read through this topic before now i know for too well that there must be something good about him,  i believe strongly that a man cannot be bad in every thing he does. yet none of his good could be remembered see the way he was hammered, beaten, slapped all sort of things was done to him.
Even if what the topic poster posted is not true, it cannot be all some most be true. which of this things we enjoy in this country. yet we are not complaining. as the other person said there is no ruler in the world that dose something of such he is right nobody.
His son made a comment everbody is throwing all sort of bad word to him. Gadhafi is not my father nor any relation of mine but yet i feel like killing all those who humiliated him.
another annoying thing is the western world.WHAT IS THERE BUSINESS WITH AFRICA OR WHAT IS THER BUSINESS WITH OIL PRODUCING NATIONS?. IF THEY THEY CARE SO MUCH Y NOT COME AND IMPROVE OUR LIFE ALL THEY DO IS TO ENCOURAGE  US TO FIGHT OUR LEADERS AND CAUSE PROBLEM TO OUR SELF. let me see how libya will av peace in a hurry.
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by NET1(m): 1:04pm On Oct 26, 2011
If all these are true, I just hope the Libyans don't regret their actions.

.NET
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by Meedu(m): 1:05pm On Oct 26, 2011
Claus:

Gaddafi's human rights record is terrible.

You can't claim to love a people collectively, but hate a good number individually (i.e. those that disagreed with him). Gaddafi crushed any dissenting voice ruthlessly and was happy to turn Libya into his family's kingdom, grooming his son to take over.

No matter how many carrots you give them, history has shown that people do not put up with that kind of oppression forever.

I commend him for his socialist policies, they are certainly better than the Nigerian leadership who seemed to just appropriate the nation's wealth for themselves without improving the lot of the people.

However, we are not comparing like with like. Nigeria's population is about 20 times that of Libya, while our GDP is only about 3 times that of Libya. There's a LOT more money to share round in Libya. That's not excusing the incompetence of the Nigerian leaders though.

well said
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by nagoma(m): 1:51pm On Oct 26, 2011
If you have any other country with that type of love for its citizens, they will find a way of dismantling it.
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by omaojo1: 2:47pm On Oct 26, 2011
Libyans will surely regret what they are doing by the time Western world is done with them.

Then they'll find the saying that 'Life can only be learned backward, but lived forward' true.
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by Gbenge77(m): 4:19pm On Oct 26, 2011
Libyans could do with democracy in the 21st century.
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by Builder: 4:34pm On Oct 26, 2011
Though i have never been to libya before, but i have friends not i, 2 ,3 4 or 5, i have more than 10 friends that confirm what the poster said, libya was a nanny state it gave its citizens good lifee, liberty, justice and equallity. the reason the imperialist got rid of gadaffi is simple. OIL and his relentless pan-africanism

In 1992, 45 African nations formed RASCOM (Regional African Satellite Communication Organisation) aimed at bringing down the cost of communications in the continent. Africa was paying some US$ 500 million a year as satellite fees to French and other European companies, and the call charges in the continent were the highest in the world. RASCOM had a plan to launch its own African satellite. The project would cost US$ 400 million. For 14 years, they went behind the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund and other donors. These imperialist-run institutions made borrowing difficult by placing tough conditions, unperturbed, the comrade offered US$ 300 million of his country's money. My Question to Anti-Gadaffi people on this thread is . Do you think if the only thing libya produces is lectuse and brocholi, do you think the NATO will invade libya? without going into much detail, try and google the gold dinar and african oil or perhap read this linked article "http://www.goldstockbull.com/articles/libya-invasion-gaddafi-plan-gold-dinar"

Gadaffi throughout his leadership have been against occupation of any sorts, yes, he did supported the mandela campaign for freedom against the europeans, he was there for the IRA same as the USA, he was there for the black sudanese , he was also there for other oppressed people in the world.

Though its been documented that the great man was ousted because his people no longer needed him there, just 1% of his people dont want him againt the 99% that want him,unfortunately the NATO and the impreialist saw that , together with their media propaganda the end was near for the great man. As at oct 22, the obama administration rating is just a mere 42%, that means 50% of the american people dont wwant him, moreso, David Cameron's personal rating is now in negative territory While 42% say he is doing a good job, 47% say bad. with this statistics, does that means NATO should now invade and kill this head of states?

Gadaffi is no saint, during his reign, some people did died, directly or indirectly mostly radical islamic fundamentalist and he was supported by the west in taking care of this radical islamist. Nobody have killed thier citizens more than Geroge Bush and tony blair for sending the american and british innocent souls to an illegal war but you never read about this evil tyrants. Gsdaffi was called a dictator, tyrant, mad dog etc, yet, the likes of Prince charles, tony blair, gorden brown, nicolas sackozy, belusconi, obama , hillary clinton and other western diplomats shook his hand, dined and wined with him within the last 3 years of his life, what has change within now and then?

we have seen the asssinations of progressive african leaders from patrice lumumba to savimbi to mugabe and now gadaffi. isnt it time africans open their eyes and see the evil the white imperialist are and their determination to invade, enslave the people of africa, the modis operandi is always the same, character assasinate them b4 u let his people finish the job.

Libyans seek democracy, i give them 42 months , lets wait and see.
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by coogar: 4:37pm On Oct 26, 2011
Builder:

Though i have never been to libya before, but i have friends not i, 2 ,3 4 or 5,  i have more than 10 friends that confirm what the poster said,  libya was a nanny state it gave its citizens good lifee, liberty, justice and equallity. the reason the imperialist got rid of gadaffi is simple. OIL and his relentless pan-africanism

In 1992, 45 African nations formed RASCOM (Regional African Satellite Communication Organisation) aimed at bringing down the cost of communications in the continent. Africa was paying some US$ 500 million a year as satellite fees to French and other European companies, and the call charges in the continent were the highest in the world. RASCOM had a plan to launch its own African satellite. The project would cost US$ 400 million. For 14 years, they went behind the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund and other donors. These imperialist-run institutions made borrowing difficult by placing tough conditions, unperturbed, the comrade offered US$ 300 million of his country's money. My Question to Anti-Gadaffi people on this thread is . Do you think if the only thing libya produces is lectuse and brocholi, do you think the NATO will invade libya? without going into much detail, try and google the gold dinar and african oil or perhap read this linked article "http://www.goldstockbull.com/articles/libya-invasion-gaddafi-plan-gold-dinar"

Gadaffi throughout his leadership have been against occupation of any sorts,  yes, he did supported the mandela campaign for freedom against the europeans, he was there for the IRA same as the USA, he was there for the black sudanese ,  he was also there for other oppressed people in the world.

Though its been documented that the great man was ousted because his people no longer needed him there, just 1% of his people dont want him againt the 99% that want him,unfortunately the NATO and the impreialist saw that ,  together with their media propaganda the end was near for the great man. As at oct 22, the obama administration rating is just a mere 42%, that means 50% of the american people dont wwant him, moreso, David Cameron's personal rating is now in negative territory While 42% say he is doing a good job, 47% say bad. with this statistics, does that means NATO should now invade and kill this head of states?

Gadaffi is no saint, during his reign,  some people did died,  directly or indirectly mostly radical islamic fundamentalist and he was supported by the west in taking care of this radical islamist. Nobody have killed thier citizens more than Geroge Bush and tony blair for sending the american and british innocent souls to an illegal war but you never read about this evil tyrants. Gsdaffi was called a dictator, tyrant, mad dog etc,  yet, the likes of Prince charles, tony blair, gorden brown, nicolas sackozy, belusconi, obama , hillary clinton and other western diplomats shook his hand, dined and wined with him within the last 3 years of his life,  what has change within now and then?

we have seen the asssinations of progressive african leaders from patrice lumumba to savimbi to mugabe and now gadaffi. isnt it time africans open their eyes and see the evil the white imperialist are and their determination to invade, enslave the people of africa,  the modis operandi is always the same, character assasinate them b4 u let his people finish the job.

Libyans seek democracy, i give them 42 months , lets wait and see.

brilliant post, sir.
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by texazzpete(m): 5:58pm On Oct 26, 2011
Builder:

Though i have never been to libya before, but i have friends not i, 2 ,3 4 or 5, i have more than 10 friends that confirm what the poster said, libya was a nanny state it gave its citizens good lifee, liberty, justice and equallity. the reason the imperialist got rid of gadaffi is simple. OIL and his relentless pan-africanism

In 1992, 45 African nations formed RASCOM (Regional African Satellite Communication Organisation) aimed at bringing down the cost of communications in the continent. Africa was paying some US$ 500 million a year as satellite fees to French and other European companies, and the call charges in the continent were the highest in the world. RASCOM had a plan to launch its own African satellite. The project would cost US$ 400 million. For 14 years, they went behind the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund and other donors. These imperialist-run institutions made borrowing difficult by placing tough conditions, unperturbed, the comrade offered US$ 300 million of his country's money. My Question to Anti-Gadaffi people on this thread is . Do you think if the only thing libya produces is lectuse and brocholi, do you think the NATO will invade libya? without going into much detail, try and google the gold dinar and african oil or perhap read this linked article "http://www.goldstockbull.com/articles/libya-invasion-gaddafi-plan-gold-dinar"

Gadaffi throughout his leadership have been against occupation of any sorts, yes, he did supported the mandela campaign for freedom against the europeans, he was there for the IRA same as the USA, he was there for the black sudanese , he was also there for other oppressed people in the world.

Though its been documented that the great man was ousted because his people no longer needed him there, just 1% of his people dont want him againt the 99% that want him,unfortunately the NATO and the impreialist saw that , together with their media propaganda the end was near for the great man. As at oct 22, the obama administration rating is just a mere 42%, that means 50% of the american people dont wwant him, moreso, David Cameron's personal rating is now in negative territory While 42% say he is doing a good job, 47% say bad. with this statistics, does that means NATO should now invade and kill this head of states?

Gadaffi is no saint, during his reign, some people did died, directly or indirectly mostly radical islamic fundamentalist and he was supported by the west in taking care of this radical islamist. Nobody have killed thier citizens more than Geroge Bush and tony blair for sending the american and british innocent souls to an illegal war but you never read about this evil tyrants. Gsdaffi was called a dictator, tyrant, mad dog etc, yet, the likes of Prince charles, tony blair, gorden brown, nicolas sackozy, belusconi, obama , hillary clinton and other western diplomats shook his hand, dined and wined with him within the last 3 years of his life, what has change within now and then?

we have seen the asssinations of progressive african leaders from patrice lumumba to savimbi to mugabe and now gadaffi. isnt it time africans open their eyes and see the evil the white imperialist are and their determination to invade, enslave the people of africa, the modis operandi is always the same, character assasinate them b4 u let his people finish the job.

Libyans seek democracy, i give them 42 months , lets wait and see.





Bullcrap!
I see you happily avoided mentioning how Gadaffi was the largest single sponsor of terrorist activities for decades. I see you fail to mention his involvement in the Lockerbie bombing that killed loads of innocent men, women and Children.
I also see how you glossed over the decades of repression and oppression of dissent and opposition. How can someone be a 'great leader' when opposing views are not only not tolerated, but often met by a death sentence?

Gadaffi's downfall did not come about because he 'opposed the west'. Was it not Libyans that braved guns and bombs in Benghazi and rid the town of pro-gadaffi troops? Was it not Libyans that rose up against him in Misrata? Were they blond and blue-eyed?
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by velo10: 6:37pm On Oct 26, 2011
Is there any government in the world, which doesn't have opposition? What the West simply did in Libya is give power to the opposition to get rid of the government in place. Most opposers to Gaddafi are in the Eastern region - Benghazi, where the outrage begun. The West carefully calculated what Gaddafi would do if there was an unrest and created a fraudulent solution of no-fly zone to demobilise his military.

What people don't understand is that the protest in Libya was different from the protests in Egypt and Tunisia. The Egyptian and Tunisian protesters came with stones against the government, while those in Benghazi, Libya stole weapons from the barracks and were armed to the teeth. What do you expect any government in the world to do in reaction to such an armed violent uprising? Let them go on?

RIP Muammar al-Gaddafi
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by titsqueez(m): 6:55pm On Oct 26, 2011
Libya is about to be ra.ped by the US, UK and France. Lets just call it a gang ba.ng  sad
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by souleymon(m): 8:07pm On Oct 26, 2011
Its always said that one Mans Poison cld be anoda mans meal, Definately the Libyans will REGRET their action
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by Builder: 12:59am On Oct 27, 2011
@ Texazzpete, I hope I don’t have to repeat this again, its getting boring and repetitive except for those who are used to swallowing the media peopaganda. i will try and answer ur question as much as i can

(1) The great leader used Libya’s oil money to support groups fighting for self-determination (such as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), the Irish Republican Army (IRA), and theAfrican National Congress (ANC), hence, his friendship with Mandela. i sure hope all misconception on this issue is cleared


(2) The only witness to the lockerbie bombing over scotland was a Tony Gauci, who was paid a toal sum of $2 million just to testify by the americans, besides, At the trial, Tony Gauci appeared uncertain about the exact date he sold the clothes in question, and was not entirely sure that it was Megrahi to whom the cloths were sold. Nonetheless, Megrahi's appeal against conviction was rejected by the Scottish Court in the Netherlands in March 2002 inspite of the inconstitences in the witness statement. besides, did you know that Iran Air Flight 655 (IR655) was a civilian jet airliner shot down by U.S. missiles? i guess not

For more on the lockerbie issue, i encourage you to read/google the below articles, reports and finding and stop listening to fox news

"How ‘unreliable’ Tony Gauci gave Lockerbie its Libyan suspect – dossier"

"Maltese shopkeeper offered ‘unlimited funds’ for Lockerbie testimony"

"Deception over Lockerbie"

"The Lockerbie Bombing; The Government, Facts, and Deception"

Lockerbie was Mossad “false flag” operation


(3) with regards to you stories about the oppressed libyans, i dont know where you are getting your stories from, for your info, libyans enjoyed a better quality of life than folks in the USA under gadaffi, they dont have the problems of fore clousure, free health care, free education, they dont suffer the sort of high unemplyment suffered by the americans, it seem u have very limited exposure about how the invasion started in libya, i will leave you to wallow in ur ignorance

RIP Gadaffi
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by roselynbas(f): 9:40am On Oct 27, 2011
I hope the Libyans don't regret their actions. if they allow the westerners to invade their country, they are done for!
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by offroad: 12:05pm On Oct 27, 2011
@ builder god bless your soul! i wonder y people still believe the pale skinned savages white man have good intentions for Africa they never had from colonial days and they never will now, no wonder

china is shielding its masses from their bullshit propaganda media. this is why nigeria would never change because our corrupt system suits their imperialism perfectly!
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by 1Emmy: 2:51pm On Oct 27, 2011
those fools killed a man who gave them so much, they will certainly regret this.
Re: Gadaffi B4 2005 Vs Nigeria Rulers. by sley4life(m): 6:20pm On Oct 27, 2011
prefer Gadafi to our leaders

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