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Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by FreeStuffsNG: 7:54pm On Nov 09, 2023
VATICAN CIty: Transgender people can be godparents at Roman Catholic baptisms, witnesses at religious weddings and receive baptism themselves, the Vatican's doctrinal office said on Wednesday, responding to questions from a bishop.

The department, known as the Dicastery of the Doctrine of the Faith, was vague however, in response to a question of whether a same-sex couple could have a Church baptism for an adopted child or one obtained through a surrogate mother.

Bishop Jose Negri of Santo Amaro in Brazil sent the doctrinal office six questions in July regarding LGBT people and their participation in the sacraments of baptism and matrimony.

The three pages of questions and answers were signed by the department's head, Argentine Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández, and approved by Pope Francis on Oct. 31. They were posted on the department's website on Wednesday using the Italian word for "transsexuals".

Francis, 86, has tried to make the Church more welcoming to the LGBT community without changing Church teachings, including one saying that same-sex attraction is not sinful but same-sex acts are.

In response to a question of whether transgender people can be baptized, the doctrinal office said they could with some conditions and as long as there is "no risk of causing a public scandal or disorientation among the faithful".

It said transgender people could be godparents at a baptism at the discretion of the local priest as well as a witness at a Church wedding, but the local priest should exercise "pastoral prudence" in his decision.

"This is an important step forward in the Church seeing transgender people not only as people (in a Church where some say they don't really exist) but as Catholics," Father James Martin, a prominent Jesuit priest and supporter of LGBT rights in the Church, said on X, formerly known as Twitter.

Francis has met with transgender people and in July, he told a transgender person: "Even if we are sinners, he (God) draws near to help us. The Lord loves us as we are, this is God's crazy love."

The document said a person in a same-sex relationship could also be a witness at a Catholic wedding, the office said, citing current Church canonical legislation which contained no prohibition against it.

The response was less clear regarding persons in same-sex relationships and their role in baptism, which is the initiation into the Church for infants, children or adults.

The Brazilian bishop sought guidance on whether a same-sex couple who had adopted a child or obtained it from a surrogate mother could have that child baptized in a Catholic ceremony.

The response said that for the child of a same-sex couple to be baptized, there had to be "a well-founded hope that it would be educated in the Catholic religion".

There was a similarly nuanced response to a question whether a person in a same-sex relationship could be a godparent at a Church baptism. It said the person had to "lead a life that conforms to the faith".

https://www.reuters.com/world/transsexuals-can-be-baptized-catholic-serve-godparents-vatican-says-2023-11-08/

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by FreeStuffsNG: 7:54pm On Nov 09, 2023
O pari. Now I understand. Check my signature for free stuffs!

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by taylor89(m): 7:55pm On Nov 09, 2023
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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by netpro(m): 7:55pm On Nov 09, 2023
Personally, I have come to keep my Christianity simple, like Jesus taught.

1. Regard, honour and worship the Lord your God. The maker of everything in the Universe.

2. Accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and saviour. I believe in Repentance, his death and resurrection.

3. Love your neighbour as you would yourself. If you no love your neighbour na God wey you never see, you wan love.

Outside these 3 things, my hands no dey.

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by BOSSkesh(m): 7:58pm On Nov 09, 2023
The downfall of the Catholics
And the Catholic Church
I will be there

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by FreeStuffsNG: 8:13pm On Nov 09, 2023
JASONjnr:


You win election and you still can't get over Peter Obi?

Is he really tormenting your existence?
You're the one who brought lamba and 'saint' Peter Obi into this thread, not me o

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by ejighikemeuwa: 8:14pm On Nov 09, 2023
This is a clear proof that the Pope is not for the Bible faith and not defending the bible faith indeed?

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by JASONjnr(m): 8:16pm On Nov 09, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:

You're the one who brought saint Peter Obi into this thread, not me.

Just like Hamas, who started a war and now playing the victim card...


You people are really good at acting stupid and claiming to be wise.

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by Righteousness2(m): 8:28pm On Nov 09, 2023
There is no way to modify evil. This is satanic abominable abomination .

The False prophet of the coming lawless man aka antichrist who has been disgusting himself is beginning to show who he really is.

Do not be carried away by titles and so on in the name church.

The subtle Deception is real. If you are not consciously attached to GOD and HIS word, the Bible, they will sweep you away and sweep you to Hell.

We are living in the last of the last moments!
Get yourself right with JESUS Christ!
JESUS CHRIST is Coming quickly.

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by Theweekend: 8:40pm On Nov 09, 2023
Some of the reasons i don't attend church anymore like wtf are u teaching people these days.

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by easyfem(m): 8:59pm On Nov 09, 2023
this are the white that brought this religion to us ..... and this is not in the bible ... bible oppose it

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by LegallyBlunt: 9:00pm On Nov 09, 2023
angry

angry

angry

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by Emuforlife1: 9:00pm On Nov 09, 2023
Many people don't know why Christianity is Synonymous to Homosexuality.

Romans 1: 22-27

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God into that of a mortal human being (Jesus) and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of
their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

25 They changed the truth about God into a lie, and worshiped and served a creature (Jesus) rather than the Creator (God Almighty) —who is forever praised. Amen.

26 For this Curse, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones(Lesbianism).

27 In the same way, the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another (Gayism). Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.


The above verses point clearly to why Christianity is synonymous to Homosexuality. Christian nations trying very hard to promote homosexuality, thier Pope (Highest Christian Personality) justifying homosexuality and blessing it. They want the whole world to be morally corrupted by their Curse as mentioned by the Bible.

The only solution to Homosexuality today is for Christians to stop worshipping a Mortal creature(Jesus) and worship the True Creator as this is what brought the curse of homosexuality in the first place.

Only a sick person thinks sexual relationship between (Same gender) women or Men is not a curse.

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by Tjra: 9:00pm On Nov 09, 2023
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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by Emuforlife1: 9:01pm On Nov 09, 2023
easyfem:
this are the white that brought this religion to us ..... and this is not in the bible ... bible oppose it
U sabi Bible pass Pope??

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by Christistruth03: 9:01pm On Nov 09, 2023
Many Reverend Fathers have been up to No good

And the good ones they make life difficult for

End time Vatican

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by snipernigga(m): 9:01pm On Nov 09, 2023
The LORD JESUS CHRIST came and died because of SINNERS and THE LOST SHEEP. grin grin grin
Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by Emuforlife1: 9:02pm On Nov 09, 2023
Osanoghodua1:
Anti Christ will come from a City upon the mountain. He must have a religious and political power. The Vatican City may produce the anti-Christ the way they are coming. Let him that has ear let him hear and flee the deception of this age.
Righteousness2:
There is no way to modify evil. This is satanic abominable abomination .

The False prophet of the coming lawless man aka antichrist who has been disgusting himself is beginning to show who he really is.

Do not be carried away by titles and so on in the name church.

The subtle Deception is real. If you are not consciously attached to GOD and HIS word, the Bible, they will sweep you away and sweep you to Hell.

We are living in the last of the last moments!
Get yourself right with JESUS Christ!
JESUS CHRIST is Coming quickly.
Oga! U sabi Bible pass Pope? The Pope said Homosexuality is Legal in Christianity gringrin Hahahahaha
themanderon:
Right before our very eyes the signs are manifesting. Even the Catholic Church with their so called strong infallible teachings are changing their doctrines to accommodate the teachings of the princes of the power in the air. Na Antichrist the world dey wait for so. His signs are everywhere. Let us repent and give our lives to Christ. Almost all prophesies of his coming are here with us. The great apostasy is amongst us. The falling away has started. May God be merciful on us
Righteousness2:
There is no way to modify evil. This is satanic abominable abomination .

The False prophet of the coming lawless man aka antichrist who has been disgusting himself is beginning to show who he really is.

Do not be carried away by titles and so on in the name church.

The subtle Deception is real. If you are not consciously attached to GOD and HIS word, the Bible, they will sweep you away and sweep you to Hell.

We are living in the last of the last moments!
Get yourself right with JESUS Christ!
JESUS CHRIST is Coming quickly.
What Anti-Christ are you all talking about? Christians today are celebrating people who killed their "Lord and personal savior", the Headquarters of Homosexuality, alcoholism, Nudity etc in the Middle East (Israel).
What can be more Anti-Christ- Like as that

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by Johnn87: 9:02pm On Nov 09, 2023
Interesting
Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by soccerlite: 9:02pm On Nov 09, 2023
Theweekend:
Some of the reasons i don't attend church anymore like wtf are u teaching people these days.

Is it every church that's teaching such
Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by Tjra: 9:02pm On Nov 09, 2023
JASONjnr:


You win election and you still can't get over Peter Obi?

Is he really tormenting your existence?
The question is, has Peter Obi himself gotten over the election?

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by inoki247: 9:02pm On Nov 09, 2023
Lol what a confused world.....
Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by SweetDipBenny(m): 9:02pm On Nov 09, 2023
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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by Hananfine: 9:02pm On Nov 09, 2023
All the Nation that has accepted this Evil are all christian Nation.
Can we now called all christian LGBTQ?

As christian normally do against other religions

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by soccerlite: 9:03pm On Nov 09, 2023
Emuforlife1:

Oga! U sabi Bible pass Pope


Are you a Christian?
Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by themanderon: 9:03pm On Nov 09, 2023
Right before our very eyes the signs are manifesting. Even the Catholic Church with their so called strong infallible teachings are changing their doctrines to accommodate the teachings of the princes of the power in the air. Na Antichrist the world dey wait for so. His signs are everywhere. Let us repent and give our lives to Christ. Almost all prophesies of his coming are here with us. The great apostasy is amongst us. The falling away has started. May God be merciful on us

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by Iwantslavesgone: 9:03pm On Nov 09, 2023
It's an Igboman church so anything goes. Expect the Pope to announce drug peddling as legit business and baby factory as a good way to start a family. Anywhere you see Igbos supporting run

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Re: Transgender People Can Be Baptized Catholic, Serve As Godparents, Vatican Says by foolbuster: 9:03pm On Nov 09, 2023
Lolz, religion is one of the biggest manipulation tool for humans. I continue to hope and pray more and more people wake up.

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