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The Unknown Facts About The Libyan Dictator Muammar Gaddafi by pm05337(m): 3:23pm On Oct 27, 2011
No wonder they want Nigerians to continue to suffer by removing fuel subsidy so that they can continue to steal in Billions. No politicians in Nigeria steal millions no more. Its a matter of time when they start in Trillions, All Jonathan can do is continue to set up committees upon committees when these looters continue to oppress ordinary Nigerians with their loot. For those of you calling Ghadafi a dictator, I will rather have a dictator like Ghadafi ruling Nigeria than a "democrat" like Jonathan. You can decide for yourselves,

THE UNKNOWN FACTS ABOUT THE LIBYAN DICTATOR MUAMMAR GADDAFI:
1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.
2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.
3. Home considered a human right in Libya – Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent.
4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans were literate. Today the figure is 83%.
6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms – all for free.
7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance.
8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price.
9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per litre.
10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally.
11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.
12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.
13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000
14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15
15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree
16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.
Re: The Unknown Facts About The Libyan Dictator Muammar Gaddafi by fogman1(m): 3:40pm On Oct 27, 2011
This is unbelievable!
Re: The Unknown Facts About The Libyan Dictator Muammar Gaddafi by adctrl: 3:45pm On Oct 27, 2011
I have been seeing this list of the benefits Gaddafi gives to his people. Can someone who has lived in Libya or really sure of all the content of this list confirm it?

It's just unbelieve-able to me!

However true the list is, I still know for sure that he has sent some citizens of the country to exile and even went after them there, but please confirm all in the above list if you are sure.


Thanks
Re: The Unknown Facts About The Libyan Dictator Muammar Gaddafi by Nobody: 5:24pm On Oct 27, 2011
adctrl:

I have been seeing this list of the benefits Gaddafi gives to his people. Can someone who has lived in Libya or really sure of all the content of this list confirm it?

It's just unbelieve-able to me!

However true the list is, I still know for sure that he has sent some citizens of the country to exile and even went after them there, but please confirm all in the above list if you are sure.


Thanks

^
It's really mind-boggling the things claimed to be done by Ghaddafi.
Re: The Unknown Facts About The Libyan Dictator Muammar Gaddafi by Jarus(m): 7:30pm On Oct 27, 2011
Ghaddafi tried for his people, but he overstayed his welcome. Sit-tightism is his major problem. No matter how well you try for your people, you miss it when you refuse to leave the stage when the ovation is loudest.
Re: The Unknown Facts About The Libyan Dictator Muammar Gaddafi by Nobody: 8:13pm On Oct 27, 2011
The truth lies somewhere between the claims and counter-claims made below smiley
You be the judge.
By the way, we have had our fair share of dictators in Nigeria. No?

No wonder they want Nigerians to continue to suffer by removing fuel subsidy so that they can continue to steal in Billions. No politicians in Nigeria steal millions no more. Its a matter of time when they start in Trillions,  All Jonathan can do is continue to set up committees upon committees when these looters continue to oppress ordinary Nigerians with their loot. For those of you calling Ghadafi a dictator, I will rather have a dictator like Ghadafi ruling Nigeria than a "democrat" like Jonathan. You can decide for yourselves,

THE UNKNOWN FACTS ABOUT THE LIBYAN DICTATOR MUAMMAR GADDAFI:
1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.

Categorically untrue. Despite poor electricity infrastructure and poor coverage of electricity lines, even in the Capital, Libyan home owners pay monthly/quarterly (area dependant) electricity bills based on meter readings. Electricity is cut off in instances of unpaid bills. Reconnection upon payment is not instant. The electric infrastructure is weak and some areas of Libya do not have electricity available at all.

2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.
Categorically untrue. Banks all over Libya have been giving out loans for years and years. There is a percentage rate charge on all loans, which is comparable to an interest rate, but in the spirit of ‘islamic ethics’ it is not called interest, it is called an ‘Administrative Expense’ – Masareef Edareeya.

3. Home considered a human right in Libya – Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent.
Gaddafi abused this human right as much as he did other basic rights. It is well known in Libya that political opponents and successful business men/women had their homes confiscated and handed over to regime members, usually rewards for Free Officers – Dubat A7rar. Many farms and homes and businesses were confiscated during three infamous phases of Libyas dictatorial history:

1969 – The dreaded Green Revolution. Free Officers were rewarded land, homes, and farms that sometimes belonged to other people and the original owners were not compensated or asked if this was ok.
Late 70’s – The introduction of the law Albayt le Sakinehee – The Home Belongs to its Dwellers. As this law was passed overnight, thousands of homeowners instantly lost their homes, as tenants (those renting the homes) claimed ownership on account of being the ‘dwellers’. The law applied to homes, farms, shops, etc.
90’s – The introduction of Purification Committees (Lejnat al Tatheer). This committee ran by the widely know slogan, ‘Min ayna laka hada?’ – “From where did you obtain this?”, a form of ultra-socialism where people’s possessions, including homes and businesses, were confiscated if seen to be ‘surplus to requirement’ or contributing to a ‘monopoly’.

4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
This is a well known rumour and a common joke in Libya. Whilst it may have been passed as official legislation, I know of not a single family who has been given this grant. The backbreaking bureaucracy associated with such grants and loans make them more or less impossible to obtain.

5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans were literate. Today the figure is 83%.
Education and Health Care – Free does not mean adequate. It is well known that Libya’s standard of health care is nothing short of appalling. It is widely known that the majority of Libyans seeking medical care leave for neighbouring countries for treatment. Our Education system is no better. It is outdated, teachers are underpaid and under-trained and libraries are largely non-existent. The syllabus was constantly being revised and reviewed under direct instruction from the former regime e.g. banning English, changing Quranic verses, etc.
It is commonly said that Libyans would be happy to forfeit their ‘free health care’ and pay for a National Health Service if it was up to the required standard.

6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms – all for free.
This has never happened, in addition to this many farms and homes have been confiscated by the government to build railroads, The Great Man Made River and civil roads.

The owners of the land were only compensated if there was a covered structure on the land as the Gaddafi regime legally owned any land and the people were only allowed to build on it. When there was compensation offered it was nowhere near the actual value of the property and many waited years to receive anything if at all. This system was also rife with corruption many residents told they had to pay a bribe to receive what little they were given.

7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance.
Categorically untrue. If this was the case, the former regime would have been in receipt of 6 million application forms – one for every man, women and child who ‘cannot find education or medical facilities they need’. This grant does not exist for the mainstream public. There is anectdotal evidence of some medical grants being given but again, the system was corrupt and opaque.

8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price.
There is no truth to the former Gaddafi regime paying 50% of the value of a new car.

Whilst the price of fuel is indeed cheap, the quality of roads, the accuracy and availability of road signs, the presence of road traffic police, and all other transport infrastructure is of abysmal standard.

The absence of an integrated and functional public transport system means that people are reliant on their cars for all movement and might end up paying more on fuel than our neighbours around the Mediterranean basin.

9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per litre.

10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally.
Whilst our sovereign wealth is undeniable, none of it was spent on the people of Libya nor the infrastructure of the country. Basic amenities, services, and state infrastructure are either absent or of appalling standard.

The availability of money is not tantamount to wealth or prosperity. The Arabs have a saying about Libya – “A rich nation of poor inhabitants.”

11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.
Categorically untrue. Even basic wages are sometimes unpaid for months, for those lucky enough to be employed. Welfare for the unemployed is non-existent.

12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.
No basis to this claim as no such case can be found.

13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000
Categorically untrue. There is a Child Benefit welfare payment in Libya – it is roughly 15-20 Libyan Dinars a month per child. No Libyan citizen was given foreign currency as compensation.

14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15
Bread was subsidized by the state. Whilst the price varies (marginally) from shop to shop, bread usually costs ¼ dinars for 10 baguettes (small) or roughly 500grams per dinar.

15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree
The absence of a comprehensive selection process and a corrupt entry protocol means that universities in Libya are grossly over populated and over subscribed, despite limited facilities. This results in an over inflated number of graduates, but not necessarily an adequate level of employability. There are thousands of students studying foundation year medicine in Tripoli alone.

16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.
The Jury is still out on this. The project has indeed supplied water to many towns and cities around Libya, but the cost is thought to be as stratastrophic as the time it took to complete this. Further, decades of an absence of appropriate licensing, monitoring and control has meant that wells were dug for every home, putting immense pressure on Libya’s natural and naturally replenishable water sources. This resulted in the increase of salinity in local water reserves, which lead to the need for an expansive project such as the Man Made River

Source: http://feb17.info/news/myths-of-the-gaddafi-regime-explained/
Re: The Unknown Facts About The Libyan Dictator Muammar Gaddafi by yoji: 8:31pm On Oct 27, 2011
thanks for d enlightenment besides how hard can it be providing for only 6 million people with all that oil! abeggiii!
Re: The Unknown Facts About The Libyan Dictator Muammar Gaddafi by Nobody: 9:09pm On Oct 27, 2011
cry The list is true I live in libya for 9months and it is Only Libya among the Arab nation that allow illegal citizens without Visa to work in there country.
if you are going from Sabbah to tripoli that is about 12 hours Driving it will cost you 5 dinnars =500naira and by air, 20 dinnars =2,000 naira
as a foreigner and illegal immigrant i and my friends pay 15 dinar per month for 3bed room flat that has a ready made A.C split unit and we never for once pay for light bill and water bill.

European Union Warned gaddafi in 2005 to deport all the foreigners crossing from Libyan territory to Italy back to there country but he refuses. that made Italian government deport Africans back to Libya which made gaddafi warned them if they keep deporting Africans back to is territory he will not hesitate to deport all Italian citizens to the sahara desert. Gaddafi gave 10million euro to Italian goverment for any inconveniences African migrating from Libyan territory to Europe because they are the one working and building is country because you can never see any Libya citizens working if not a government worker he will own a farm, or own a supermarket , what we all see is Political aspect i love Gadaffi and forever will i always appreciate him he is a Man who gives hope to the poor,

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Re: The Unknown Facts About The Libyan Dictator Muammar Gaddafi by Nobody: 9:27pm On Oct 27, 2011
No one is saying the Libyan government did not meet basic needs. Or that Libyans did not have a higher standard of living than most in Africa.
But it is precisely at the point where we begin to suppress truth in name of propaganda, that we lose our moral compass.


energy prices (oil, electricity)
Petrol is cheap cheap cheap at LYD 0.2 per litre. Owners of V8 gas guzzlers & Chelsea Tractors will love Libya! Electricity is billed once a quarter by a guy who comes to your house and expects payment upon demand, otherwise he may decide to cut you off! Quarterly charges are typically LYD 3-400 for a 3 bedroom villa.

common bills (Internet, television, telephone, mobile phone)
Internet connections outside of the workplace are DIRE. You have the option of either dial-up (for which you’ll need to buy a phone line) and good for no more than basic web browsing and email, or the fledgling WiMax,

LTT (Libya Telecom & Technology) are currently in the process of rolling out a WiMax service: The USB dongle system costs LYD 520 but only works within 800m of a transmitter i.e. city centre + 5km radius. The modem based system costs LYD 620 but wait for it…….modems won’t be available for 2-3 months!

There are several other ISP’s but don’t bother unless you’re prepared to wait an hour for a page to load….

If you work from home really need a connection for your business, Vsat and microwave based VoIP systems are available starting from LYD 500 per month plus modem/switch/router/antenna cost.

There are several satellite TV service providers in Libya, the most popular being Nilesat at around LYD 250 a year. Don’t bother bringing your Sky box to Libya, it’s on the edge of the Astra footprint and you’ll need a 3.8m dish for a decent signal.

There are two main cellular network providers – Almadar and Libyana. To get a SIM, you’ll need to go to their main offices downtown Tripoli with a copy of your passport. Local calls are cheap, international very expensive. Many places including local shops sell recharge cards. Your European/US SIM probably won’t in Libya as roaming agreements are limited.
Source: http://www.expat-blog.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5081
Re: The Unknown Facts About The Libyan Dictator Muammar Gaddafi by hajifaty: 5:09pm On Oct 30, 2011
Gaddafi is now a dead man and his legacy lives on either good or bad. What are the legacies of both past,present,dead and living Nigerian leaders? just mention one thing that they have done for this Nation.

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