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Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by Kionrae: 9:09am On Nov 15, 2023 |
Basic123:e pain the bati-mumu 1 Like
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Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by andy244: 9:18am On Nov 15, 2023 |
Fvck Zik. He was selfish. Zik of Africa my foot. Biafra republic is the way forward. |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by ObidenceNeckpre: 9:30am On Nov 15, 2023 |
Cursed igbo, cursed Region successmatters: 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by jeromestarks: 9:44am On Nov 15, 2023 |
DeepSight:You believe those shit. |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by ppogba: 9:57am On Nov 15, 2023 |
mrvitalis: He would have been more justified and honorable if he had not ran away in his wife's skirt and blouse. |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by DeepSight(m): 10:04am On Nov 15, 2023 |
jeromestarks: Shitty isn't it. Just as shitty as your sense of humor. |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by mrvitalis(m): 10:05am On Nov 15, 2023 |
ppogba:The ends justify the means You have emir in your land... He doesn't thats the facts on ground 2 Likes |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by ppogba: 10:08am On Nov 15, 2023 |
mrvitalis: The bigger fact is that the wicked act of wasting three million innocent lives and running away in the middle of the night is the most succinct definition of cowardice. The innocent women and children are still crying in their graves. 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by mrvitalis(m): 10:27am On Nov 15, 2023 |
ppogba:Says someone who have emir in his land No emir can ever be in Igbo land he would be sent to God Instantly 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by viodemus: 10:33am On Nov 15, 2023 |
How ironic that a divider in chief can go to anything about tribal unity. The great Zik was the mastermind of what we know as Nigeria today. The other two famzers were tribal lords. Zik didn't want to drag power with them, but he had to alter them sometimes because he understood that he was dealing with tribalist people (one was more tribalist and very divisive, while the other was all about his tribal interest). The other two didn't see OGA Zik vision of a united nation, so they became spoilers of the dream. The other two gum bodies apart from Zik, were also very egoistic. They mistook Zik's tribal compromise as weakness. Is it not funny that when another great igbo and a great cousin, became tribalist, then the haters and hypocrites, went into propaganda overdrive and evil intent against the igbos and cousins. The fact remains, igbos were more patriotic than the hijacking tribes. Nnamdi Azikiwe - undisputed patriot General Ojukwu - was a Nigerian patriot until he realized the people he was dealing with. General Effiong - not igbo, but he was a Nigerian patriot General Ironsi - was a nigerian patriot col Nzeogu - was a nigerian patriot even just some years ago Nnamdi Kanu - was a nigerian patriot ekpa - was a nigerian patriot so what happened that they changed to tribal interest? they saw that the others were very very hardened tribalist, they realized how dangerously aloof they were, and by God's grace, they tried adjusting to the reality on ground The igbos participants of this useless show, should ask themselves, when will the hateful tribalist equalize the security forces?, when will he invest in non sw ports?. This is an unworthy show. No genuine intent. 3 Likes |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by GUNITGuy: 11:10am On Nov 15, 2023 |
viodemus:Zik was also a tribalist Clannish and Selfish..... Better wake up and don't deceive yourself...He's greatest undoing was opposing Awo and that is the Genesis of the problem of the Ibos till today... He opposed him in every guise even to the detriment of his people out of ego ........ See were he's one Nigeria scam has landed him and his Ibo people today ... Ibo s have Been Political Miscalculators right from the 1930s they just can't see the Bigger Picture staring at them even till last election it showed ....... Would say what they aren't suppose to say and their opponents would pick it up and use it against them .......... Tinubu is appointments for Yorubas has shown he doesn't also believe in the one Nigeria and the Northerners must not cough ...Very soon is to facilitate restructuring if the Northerners start creating problems for him that alone is a threat to them ...... 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by viodemus: 12:56pm On Nov 15, 2023 |
GUNITGuy: I didn't get your last point. The paragraph began from the hateful tribalist criminal. I think you are wrong calling Zik selfish or tribalist, if anything, zik was selfless and tried in many ways to encourage a united tribeless nation. Don't forget, Zik also had to convince the igbos too, he was the most vested out of the three. Zik wanted a forged and stronger-together Nigeria, while the other two, were tribalist. May I remind you, Zik named his children, other tribe's names - ( I hope the children dropped those useless names, and took up their rightful tribal names) Zik rejected the idea of his name being used, and instead suggested that it'd be called UNN - University of Nigeria, Nsukka. Zik did not drag post with anyone. He was a wise man for real. If not for hateful, jealous, and slave inclined associates, Zik and true patriots from the other two major regions, could have made Nigeria, a top 5 nation in the world. Another Zikist, could have been oga Peter Obi had he won. He would have made the igbos give the most concessions, just to give others the confidence to believe in Nigeria. And those actions, would have made igbos exponentially aloof to the reality on ground. When a true Igbo lion, stood up against the genocide of his tribe and his tribal cousins, the other selfish, insecure, and extremist major tribes, schemed and made him a villain in the eyes of the British and other world leaders. If only Ojukwu added more wisdom to his vision, that war would have tilted differently. He could have promised Britian, France, and America, 25 years, 80 -20, oil deal; they take 80%. But they would have to flush the igbo side with weapons and training. You know, like bow to them more than he did, but with sense. . Then with time, restructure the deal.Well, hindsight is 20/20. Overall, Awolowo was a selfish tribalist - not that much of an extremist, maybe his Christianity still softened his heart a bit. The other guy, Ahamd Bello, was a hardcore tribalist, scared of igbo having significant say so in Nigeria. *am not accusing him, these were his words on tv. He was intelligent, but an all out igbo hater. Very insecure. All that, made another patriot turned tribalist, the great honorable Nzeogu and his boys, take matters into their hand. Overall, other tribes can twist the facts, but the truth is, Zik was the main mastermind for the country Nigeria; he knew the other two were not like him, but he encouraged them anyway. Zik encouraged unity for all Nigerians, he even wanted to join Cameroon to Nigeria. Zik would have encouraged west Africa to be one nation, if he could. Zik was a genuine uniter and leader. Zik tried to create equals to him, but there were no match. Even extremist northerners respect Zik, tribalist sw respect Zik. Ojukwu was Awolowo and Bello peer, not Zik. The only reason the other two tribes view Nigeria with suspicion, hate, and destruction, is because an igbo envisioned it; so they teamed up to hijack it. 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by georgeakins: 3:11pm On Nov 15, 2023 |
Amigoss: Azikwe was never a credible person |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by georgeakins: 3:14pm On Nov 15, 2023 |
viodemus: Azikwe was a tribalist. Only Ibos call him a Nationalist. He connived with Ibo soldiers to murder his contemporaries |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by georgeakins: 3:17pm On Nov 15, 2023 |
Amigoss: You think Jagaban has time for that useless gathering? He is going to send someone there. |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by viodemus: 4:54pm On Nov 15, 2023 |
georgeakins: wrong view. igbos look at Zik of Africa, as a nationalist The soldiers knew the other tribalist, who were masquerading as forefathers, were tribalist encouraging death and destruction in the nation, due to hate and envy. If the igbos then, had formed the right foreign alliance, it would have helped. Things would have been different. |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by GUNITGuy: 5:27pm On Nov 15, 2023 |
viodemus:Just like I said he couldn't see the larger picture it won't work at the fledgling stage of Nigeria he miscalculated several times and it showed he wasn't a good Leader....He eventually relinquish his Leadership to the North's Balewa... Awo saw it coming but he Zik was clever by half until he got burnt before he realized that was a huge error ...Why do we join ourselves to the northerners whose system is Hegemonic while ours is competition .... A family would continue to remain lords while the others remain vassals no matter how competent they may be.... Awo was more a visionary a good Leadership quality not Sentimental like Zik...Zik is not the class of mao Zedong of China, Lee kwan yew of Singapore, Sadat of Egypt, Even an Hitler had foresight .....But he's blinded by Sentiments .... Awolowo knew fully well it won't work call him a Tribalist Clannish that would be fine but he had clearly defined Mission for his People which is till reflecting in the South West till today ... Zik had none than just having a united Nigeria... Please don't mention America as an example it's a congregation of different whites races who found a place to dominate.... What's Zik vision, idealogy, goals for the Nigeria is it just a large territory to Rule over or what . He just loves the mantra of one Nigeria without a clearcut plan to make it work .... Awo is far better a Leader than ZIK NO MATTER WHAT YOU CALL HIM... OAU was named after the death of Awolowo not because Awolowo wanted it to be called so... University of Nigeria Nsukka was named being the first indigenously owned university.... But a University is named after Azikiwe to immortalize him not because Azikiwe saw a school being built but an outcry by Ohanaeze to Gej..... Stop being deceived about Zik being detribalized he also had tribal Rhetorics which others perceived him to have the other two were not in denial of their inclination to their ethnic background first before one Nigeria but Ziks claim wasn't Trusted by any of them |
Re: Tinubu, Other Eminent Nigerians To Grace Zik Annual Lecture by georgeakins: 5:29pm On Nov 15, 2023 |
viodemus: He was a tribalist! Go and read his history. He connived with those Ibo soldiers to murder his fellow politicians. |
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