OGHENAOGIE:
you should stop writing junks.. Court or judiciary is part of democracy.. they exist for pple not satisfied to seek redress... So shove ur ignorance and emotions into your ass... The judiciary also make laws if you don't cos their judgment become reference point as judicial precedents... So u guys should stop threatening pple.. it's not APC fault that PDP others didn't do due diligence where they won so if evidence de Court ll rule on it

IfnobeGod20:

Like making reference of people that didn't participate in primary elections of APC becoming flag bearers. What a good reference point of law. May God punish devil in you.
What you people want to turn the system to, God will surely not allow you people.

Slurity:
It is simply understanding the law and using it against the opponent. I am not an APC supporter but NNPP made a huge mistake if you follow the court case, APC are winning the state on two solid ground.

1. The candidate for governor in NNPP that won the election is not even a party member of his party as at the last day of Inec documentation, he rush to join the party afterwards.

2. Over 100,000 votes that where suspected over voting where clearly not sign or stamped by Inec and so the votes where from NNPP votes, same vote without stamps or sign where not found on APC votes, after the final count, NNPP votes drop to second position.

With the two reasons above, the court has to sack the NNPP governor at both Tribunal and Appeal court. Even if they take it to supreme court, NNPP will still lose. It's a clear lost to them

Kukutente23:

Learn to shut up
Not everything is about Tinubu
You need to extricate your head from his behind

Racoon:
 “A May 26 Supreme Court ruling also says rival parties have no right to question the validity of the internal decisions made by other parties unless they can prove that they suffered demonstrable harm as a result of the internal decisions another party took. So, the Kano governorship election tribunal’s verdict on this issue will be as dead as a dodo upon appeal.”

Racoon:


https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2023/11/tinubu-and-ganduje-shouldnt-play-with.html

IfnobeGod20:

It was what you said I replied. Telling the world that the judgement of court is a law and a reference point. That was what you said. And that was why I said, can we now make the supreme court judgements of making Lawal and Akpabio flag bearers of their party reference point, why it was known that thy didn't participate in their party's primaries.

Meanwhile, in your posted posters of tribunal judgement, that ballots were not signed or stamped can never be a prerequisite to void votes if and only if the RO admitted that the ballots emanated from INEC by the EA.
Again, does the petitioner proved beyond reasonable doubt that those ballots are not INEC ballots and also show videos of hoodlums disrupting polling booths on the election day. If that was so, why singling out the votes scored by NNPP and left out votes scored by APC and other political parties. Because somebody said on this forum that in those polling units the ballots for APC were signed and stamped. I thought the EA says where RO satisfied of an unstamped or unsigned it becomes valid, why did tribunal feigned ignorant of the same law?

pquaver:


Keep quiet..i have told U.. continue to Support..U will be bleating Like female goat one Heat when the Game U Push Forward today will be used again Ur candidate..obidients Always Action before thinking...

Racoon:
 “A May 26 Supreme Court ruling also says rival parties have no right to question the validity of the internal decisions made by other parties unless they can prove that they suffered demonstrable harm as a result of the internal decisions another party took. So, the Kano governorship election tribunal’s verdict on this issue will be as dead as a dodo upon appeal.”

tinsel:

This wan not the only basis. The most serious is the unsigned ballot papers of about 136,000. So stop dwelling on the other one as the only basis for his removal.

IfnobeGod20:

Like making reference of people that didn't participate in primary elections of APC becoming flag bearers. What a good reference point of law. May God punish devil in you.
What you people want to turn the system to, God will surely not allow you people.

OGHENAOGIE:
that's the best you can do.. curses and nothing more.. shows you are low in thinking and mentality...

IfnobeGod20:

Ahhhh! "May God punish the devil in you"is now a curse and not a prayer in your own world. Sorry I don't throw barter and that above simple prayer can never be said to be a curse to any right thinking person.
Just trying to dodge question. Was it a good reference point for a supreme court to have validated the candidacy of Lawal and Akpabio why they didn't participate in APC's primaries? The ball is now in your court and whatever you wished the country, God will wish you in return, as God wish me whatever I wished the country.

OGHENAOGIE:
you are ignorant and foolish so continue anyway yeye

Kukutente23:

Not only that, the question is if the signature and stamp are what is referred to as the official mark of the commission. I don't think a signature of an official is an official mark. Rather, there are security embossing on the ballot papers and serial numbers which I believe the EA is referring to as official mark and not a signature or stamp.
But even if that were the case, subsection 2 of that section provides remedy as well

yemex04:


I worked as a Presiding Officer & I know a ballot paper issued to a voter to cast his/her votes must first be stamped & sign.. Even by common sense, an unsigned document can not be said to be officially valid.. I don't know how this becomes a point of Argument.

Christistruth03:

Kukutente23:

Read and understand what you're posting
Ballot papers is different from result forms

Christistruth03:


Ballots are not valid Votes until they are Signed Stamped and dated by the Presiding Officers with Copies received and signed for by the Police where present

IfnobeGod20:

I won't go low to your level because I am more than throwing barter like missile. I ask again, was it good for supreme court to have validated the candidacy of Lawal and Akpabio, taking into consideration, they never participated in the said primaries to senate? Stop dodging the obvious and stand with the truth always.

Kukutente23:


But are you aware of the serial numbers on the ballot papers and the other security features on the ballot papers? Are you also aware there are situations where the number of voters exceed the pre-stamped and signed ballot papers especially in the north? It is in such cases that such ballot papers are used.








Pre-stamped & signed ballot papers? That's an open cheque for fraud now! Ballot Papers are not supposed to be prestamped or signed, it is supposed to be signed for next person accredited & ready to cast his/her votes.. How do you expect parties not to take advantage of such arrangements for massive ballot paper thumb printing.. NNPP aren't smart thieves ni.





Now it is very possible for such ballot papers to be unsigned.





There's no excuse for the Presiding Officer not to sign a ballot papers to be used for casting of vote.. no matter how long, he must be patient to do the needful & if he fails to do so, he has done a deservice to the supposed beneficiary of those votes & to the Nation, he should be punished.. but in this case, these are stolen or illegally acquired ballot papers possible from corrupt officials of INEC or snatching.




If you watched videos of Kano and Katsina especialy during elections, most times, voting continues till late into the night. So do you expect a presiding officer using ballot papers late in the night to have the patience to stamp and sign them?





Like I already mentioned, there's no excuse for not signing knowing fully well that if not signed & stamped, it becomes invalid.




That is why 63(2) of EA leaves room for such because it will be unfair to the voters that their votes are voided simply because a presiding officer failed to sign and stamp them.





Firstly,I would naturally not accept an unsigned/stamped ballot to cast my vote, i will insist on it being signed & stamped.. everyone should be so educated.

secondly, Section 63(2) of the EA is most certainly not talking about the validity of a vote cast, it is talking about the authenticity of the ballot paper.. read again & don't be clever by half.. There is a reason why so votes are said to be voided regardless of the authenticity of the ballot papers. Part of what makes a vote valid is that the signature & stamp of the INEC presiding officer. Again if we want to go by your postulation, it means people can get ballot papers through any means, thumb print & bring forward for counting & there would no ground to challenge it.. does that even make sense to you?










Secondly, signing and stamping is an INEC guideline requirement and not EA. EA only recognises the serial numbers of the ballot papers. Since the courts themselves have said INEC guidelines are not what poo in the toilet, i don't know how that becomes something to cancels votes for

yemex04:
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Like I mentioned up, the EA can not be referring to the validity of the vote, the aunthecity is plausible.Those are two different things.. Moreover with courts verdict, they have interpreted the section 63(2) of the EA not to mean what you postulated.. everything becomes personal opinion.

Christistruth03:


Ballots are not valid Votes until they are Signed Stamped and dated by the Presiding Officers with Copies received and signed for by the Police where present

Kukutente23:


Oga stop repeating this nonsense.
Ballot papers are not given to police. Have you not voted before? Where did you see ballots given to Police?
It is the EC form series that are given to police.
You are pasting screenshot and still failing to understand it.
God!! So much for education in this country.
Folks like you mock Obidients and accuse them of being headless.
Just look at yourself.
Outside APC Whatsapp copy and paste you can't even understand judgement written in simple English. Gosh!!

Kukutente23:

Well, I disagree with the court verdict. You sought to validate it using your claimed experience. The validity of ballot papers is the serial numbers. That's what EA says. Official mark can be taken to mean anything and even if it means the stamp and signature of the presiding officers, the EA allows it with certain conditions and even prescribes condition for such ballot papers to be rejected. You are only reading the rejection in isolation without realizing that EA actually requires the returning officer to give reason why unmarked ballot papers are rejected in a form. The fact that there is no such form implies the RO accepted the unsigned ballots as genuinely used for the elections. The court messed up the case by saying NNPP ought to call the returning officer to explain why he accepted the ballot papers. That position contradicts EA. EA only asks the RO to explain if he rejects the ballot papers!!

Christistruth03:



Who said ballot Papers are given to Police?

Go and read the Judgement again

Ballot papers are worthless until they are Stamped Signed for and dated by the Presiding officer

That is when they become Valid Votes

It is the Copy of the INEC Results Form and other relevant Forms recording the Ballots that are given to the Party agents and Police and they must sign that they received a copy
The main copies go to INEC and
Are you sure you read or understand the Judgement at all?



The 165,000 Ballots results were unsigned for unstamped undated and so therefore they were Worthless!!!!
Why is something so simple confusing you?

Get a 10 year old Child to read and explain it to you in a way you can understand

Christistruth03:


Ballots are not valid Votes until they are Signed Stamped and dated by the Presiding Officers with Copies received and signed for by the Police where present

Kukutente23:


You have been hawking those same screenshots like gala since yesterday and this is what you have been writing underneath


So it is laughable that now that you've been educated and you've corrected yourself you're referring me to a 10 year old child. Why didn't you consult a 10 year old before you started claiming ballots are given to police

This guy. Are you high on something cheap or what?

Christistruth03:



Because I have been trying to explain it to you since Yesterday and you still don’t understand

Christistruth03:


Ballots are not valid Votes until they are Signed Stamped and dated by the Presiding Officers with Copies received and signed for by the Police where present