Hello everyone,

This is it, I find it very difficult to fast. If I don't eat before 11am, I will develop headache that will last the whole day no matter what I later eat.

I feel so hungry that one will think I have not eaten for days even when I eat before going to bed.

Please what can I do to improve in fasting. I have not gone beyond 2pm which is occasionally.

Dada4me:
Hello everyone, This is it, I find it very difficult to fast. If I don't eat before 11am, I will develop headache that will last the whole day no matter what I later eat. I feel so hungry that one will think I have not eaten for days even when I eat before going to bed. Please what can I do to improve in fasting. I have not gone beyond 2pm which is occasionally.

To loose weight, what you need to do is cut down your daily calorie intake, not actually starve yourself of food(fast). Fasting has been shown to be less effective means of weight loss.

Kobojunkie:
To loose weight, what you need to do is cut down your daily calorie intake, not actually starve yourself of food(fast). Fasting has been shown to be less effective means of weight loss.

My fasting is for religion purpose not to loose weight

Dada4me:
■ My fasting is for religion purpose not to loose weight

What deity?

Kobojunkie:
What deity?

My fasting is to God, the father of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Dada4me:


My fasting is to God, the father of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Ignore that lady called Kobo. His next quote will be to ask you where Jesus Christ told us to fast in the Bible. He is well known on this forum for misinterpreting scriptures.

AyobamiIsaac12:

Ignore that lady called Kobo. His next quote will be to ask you where Jesus Christ told us to fast in the Bible. He is well known on this forum for misinterpreting scriptures.

Exactly what i wanted to ask:

Is there anywhere in the Bible that Jesus said fasting (abstinence from food or skipping meals) is compulsory for believers?

Dada4me:

My fasting is to God, the father of the Lord Jesus Christ.

If truly you want to FAST in an approved manner before God it has nothing to do with your skipping meals or hunger strike.

This is what the true God accept as FASTING:

*Share what you have with your neighbours who is in need of it.
*Forgive and forget the wrong your neighbour did to hurt you.
*Use your time, energy and resources to help those close to you even though there's nothing to receive as compensation.
This is the type of FASTING God requires from His worshipers who are doing so in spirit and truth! Isaiah 58:3-8

Not when you keep all these away them start starving yourself hypocritically claiming it's for God!

MaxInDHouse:


If truly you want to FAST in an approved manner before God it has nothing to do with your skipping meals or hunger strike.

This is what the true God accept as FASTING:

*Share what you have with your neighbours who is in need of it.
*Forgive and forget the wrong your neighbour did to hurt you.
*Use your time, energy and resources to help those close to you even though there's nothing to receive as compensation.
This is the type of FASTING God requires from His worshipers who are doing so in spirit and truth! Isaiah 58:3-8

Not when you keep all these away them start starving yourself hypocritically claiming it's for God!

Ignore this one too

Dada4me:
■ My fasting is to God, the father of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Did God or even Jesus Christ ever in fact ask you to starve yourself of food in order to get his attention?

Nowhere in Scripture did God in fact say that if you want His attention and answer you should deprive yourself of food. As a matter of fact, God said that when you eat or deprive yourself(diet) you do so for your own good. So, when you deprive yourself of food, why do you resolve that God is pleased by it too?

The kind of fasting God wants is detailed in Isaiah 58. Isaiah was prophet in Judah during the period between 740 - 726 BC, that is approximately 2750 years ago. Think about what that means for a minute. God established the kind of fasting ---- absolutely not starvation fasting ---- that He wants His people to carry out when they desire to fast over 2700 years ago, yet to this day, rather than do as God has commanded and established through His prophets, you engage in a ritual entirely opposite of that which God commands yet you say you do it for God. Don't you see that it means you don't even reverence God at all even though you claim to do so with your tongue?

Look, it is not by force to believe in God and you benefit absolutely nothing when you say you believe in God yet the things you do using His name have nothing to do with that which He commands. No reason to lie to yourself because God makes clear that He only answers those who obey Him anyways. So if you can't do as God commands, then forget God completely and live your life on your own terms.

AyobamiIsaac12:
Ignore this one too

He will jare, he surely will!

You know you can talk to God. Ask him for grace to fast.

Kobojunkie:
Did God or even Jesus Christ ever in fact ask you to starve yourself of food in order to get his attention?

Nowhere in Scripture did God in fact say that if you want His attention and answer you should deprive yourself of food. As a matter of fact, God said that when you eat or deprive yourself(diet) you do so for your own good. So, when you deprive yourself of food, why do you resolve that God is pleased by it too?

The kind of fasting God wants is detailed in Isaiah 58. Isaiah was prophet in Judah during the period between 740 - 726 BC, that is approximately 2750 years ago. Think about what that means for a minute. God established the kind of fasting ---- absolutely not starvation fasting ---- that He wants His people to carry out when they desire to fast over 2700 years ago, yet to this day, rather than do as God has commanded and established through His prophets, you engage in a ritual entirely opposite of that which God commands yet you say you do it for God. Don't you see that it means you don't even reverence God at all even though you claim to do so with your tongue?

Look, it is not by force to believe in God and you benefit absolutely nothing when you say you believe in God yet the things you do using His name have nothing to do with that which He commands. No reason to lie to yourself because God makes clear that He only answers those who obey Him anyways. So if you can't do as God commands, then forget God completely and live your life on your own terms.

Please explain 1 Corinthians 7:5.

MaxInDHouse:


If truly you want to FAST in an approved manner before God it has nothing to do with your skipping meals or hunger strike.

This is what the true God accept as FASTING:

*Share what you have with your neighbours who is in need of it.
*Forgive and forget the wrong your neighbour did to hurt you.
*Use your time, energy and resources to help those close to you even though there's nothing to receive as compensation.
This is the type of FASTING God requires from His worshipers who are doing so in spirit and truth! Isaiah 58:3-8

Not when you keep all these away them start starving yourself hypocritically claiming it's for God!

What of Matthew 17:20-21?

MaxInDHouse:


Exactly what i wanted to ask:

Is there anywhere in the Bible that Jesus said fasting (abstinence from food or skipping meals) is compulsory for believers?

Jesus Himself fasted in Matthew chapter 4 by abstaining from food and He did it as example for us.

MaxInDHouse:


Exactly what i wanted to ask:

Is there anywhere in the Bible that Jesus said fasting (abstinence from food or skipping meals) is compulsory for believers?

It is not compulsory but necessary, occasionally as some situations might demand.

Matthew 17:20-21

Dada4me:
■ Please explain 1 Corinthians 7:5.

This passsage is Paul's opinion regarding the having of sexual relations between married people.

1. Now I will discuss the things you wrote me about. You asked if it is better for a man not to have any sexual relations at all.
2 But sexual sin is a danger, so each man should enjoy his own wife, and each woman should enjoy her own husband.
3 The husband should give his wife what she deserves as his wife. And the wife should give her husband what he deserves as her husband.
4 The wife does not have power over her own body. Her husband has the power over her body. And the husband does not have power over his own body. His wife has the power over his body.
5 Don’t refuse to give your bodies to each other. But you might both agree to stay away from sex for a while so that you can give your time to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not be able to tempt you in your weakness.
6 I say this only to give you permission to be separated for a time. It is not a rule.
7 I wish everyone could be like me. But God has given each person a different ability. He makes some able to live one way, others to live a different way. - 1 Corinthians 7 vs 1 - 7

Jesus Christ made clear to those who are born-again that their marriages were of the world of men and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 - affirmations God's ruling regarding marriage from after the fall of man in Genesis 3 vs 16.

Dada4me:
■ What of Matthew 17:20-21?

Becareful what you chose to believe. Jesus Christ never asked His disciples to starve themselves of food to honor God. Recall this is the same Jesus Christ who allowed His followers to go out in the field on the sabbath day to pluck food to eat. And He is the same Jesus Christ who announced that His followers could eat anything they wanted or so desired because it is not what you eat that makes you unclean in the Kingdom of God. So it is especially out of order to believe that the same Jesus Christ would then suggest to His same disciples that by starving themselves of food, they honor His Father.

14 Jesus and the followers went back to the people. A man came to Jesus and bowed before him.
15 The man said, “Lord, be kind to my son. He suffers so much from the seizures he has. He often falls into the fire or into the water.
16 I brought him to your followers, but they could not heal him.”
17 Jesus answered, “You people today have no faith. Your lives are so wrong! How long must I stay with you? How long must I continue to be patient with you? Bring the boy here.”
18 Jesus gave a strong command to the demon inside the boy. The demon came out of the boy, and the boy was healed.
19 Then the followers came to Jesus alone. They said, “We tried to force the demon out of the boy, but we could not. Why were we not able to make the demon go out?”
20 Jesus answered, “You were not able to make the demon go out, because your faith is too small. Believe me when I tell you, if your faith is only as big as a mustard seed you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. You will be able to do anything.”
21 - Matthew 17 vs 14 - 21

Nowhere in the entire context of the passage above did Jesus Christ suggest that you should starve yourself of food to cast out a demon.

Kobojunkie:
This passsage is Paul's opinion regarding the having of sexual relations between married people.
Jesus Christ made clear to those who are born-again that their marriages were of the world of men and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 - affirmations God's ruling regarding marriage from after the fall of man in Genesis 3 vs 16.

You've gone far, please take the word of God at face value.

Dada4me:
■ You've gone far, please take the word of God at face value.

If you did that you would know there is absolutely no reason why you would pretend God is pleased when you starve yourself of food. Why? Because nowhere in all of Scripture is it written that God is pleased when you starve yourself of food. The Allah of the Muslims may be pleased by it but not the God of Israel and certainly not Jesus Christ who made it known that He and His Father are one — in agreement and accord.

Kobojunkie:
Becareful what you chose to believe. Jesus Christ never asked His disciples to starve themselves of food to honor God. Recall this is the same Jesus Christ who allowed His followers to go out in the field on the sabbath day to pluck food to eat. And He is the same Jesus Christ who announced that His followers could eat anything they wanted or so desired because it is not what you eat that makes you unclean in the Kingdom of God. So it is especially out of order to believe that the same Jesus Christ would then suggest to His same disciples that by starving themselves of food, they honor His Father.
Nowhere in the entire context of the passage above did Jesus Christ suggest that you should starve yourself of food to cast out a demon.

Fasting does not imply starving, it's abstinence from food for a period of time determined by you.

If you skip your breakfast because you don't feel like eating, does it mean you are starving?

Dada4me:
■ Fasting does not imply starving, it's abstinence from food for a period of time determined by you.
■ If you skip your breakfast because you don't feel like eating, does it mean you are starving?

1. The point here is did God ask you to abstain from eating food? If your answer is yes, show us where this is contained in Scripture God said any such..

2. Technically it does mean you are starving yourself because you recognize breakfast as a meal but choose not to eat it for other reasons.

Kobojunkie:
1. The point here is did God ask you to abstain from eating food? If your answer is yes, show us where this is contained in Scripture God said any such..

2. Technically it does mean you are starving yourself because you recognize breakfast as a meal but choose not to eat it for other reasons.

I just gave you Matthew 17:20-21 but you explained it to suit yourself.

The Bible never said we should not smoke but I believe you will not smoke because of that.

Dada4me:
■ I just gave you Matthew 17:20-21 but you explained it to suit yourself.
■The Bible never said we should not smoke but I believe you will not smoke because of that.

Point to how exactly I explained it to suit myself.

What you said about smoking is bullsheet! I don't smoke ONLY because the Surgeon general says that smoking is a likely cause of lung cancer. If not, I would smoke as much as I wanted.

Kobojunkie:
Point to how exactly I explained it to suit myself.

What you said about smoking is bullsheet! I don't smoke ONLY because the Surgeon general says that smoking is a likely cause of lung cancer. If not, I would smoke as much as I wanted.

What you believe works for you, please leave me to my believe, Mr Bullshit.

Dada4me:
■ What you believe works for you, please leave me to my believe, Mr Bullshit.

You accused me of spinning scripture but you are not able to prove it, are you? And now rather than admit it, you instead push me away by pretending the Truth of God can be divided up into different types almost as if to suggest that God is OK with people doing as they please, abi?

It is always easier to throw God under the bus than admit you have had it wrong all along, isn't it?

Kobojunkie:
You accused me of spinning scripture but you are not able to prove it, are you? And now rather than admit it, you instead push me away by pretending the Truth of God can be divided up into different types almost as if to suggest that God is OK with people doing as they please, abi?

It is always easier to throw God under the bus than admit you have had it wrong all along, isn't it?

Ok, I admit. Good night.

Dada4me:

What of Matthew 17:20-21?

How will you feel if i tell you that Matthew chapter 17 has no verse 21?

The original writing has no chapters or verses it was later divided into chapters and verses by scholars for easy quoting for references so in the process of doing so some overzealous scholars imputed what was added in verse 21.

But if you're truly interested in knowing the truth check verse 21 in other versions of the Bible like the Revised Standard Version, Jerusalem Bible, American Standard Version, NIV and so on the only version where verse 21 appears in Matthew 17 is the KJV.

Dada4me:

Jesus Himself fasted in Matthew chapter 4 by abstaining from food and He did it as example for us.

NO, Jesus didn't set fasting as example for his disciples!
If you doubt it then answer the following questions:

Where are we to fast, in the house or wilderness?
Are we to decide on our own or led by God's Holy Spirit?
When is the right time to break such fasting?
Did Jesus prescribed fasting for his disciples in details?

Whatever Jesus wants us to imitate will be clearly stated not what happened to him once in his lifetime but wasn't repeated for emphasis sake.

Jesus never intended to fast because after those days the Bible recorded that he became hungry which supposed not to be if it was intentional!

Dada4me:
■ Ok, I admit. Good night.

This isn't about me but about you not letting the lies of religion to rule over your perception of who God is and what He requires of those who desire to receive answers from Him. The fact that God never asked any man to starve Himself of food to hear from Him reveals that much of what religion has taught you are lies and have nothing to do with God or Jesus Christ for that matter.

MaxInDHouse:

How will you feel if i tell you that Matthew chapter 17 has no verse 21?

The original writing has no chapters or verses it was later divided into chapters and verses by scholars for easy quoting for references so in the process of doing so some overzealous scholars imputed what was added in verse 21.

But if you're truly interested in knowing the truth check verse 21 in other versions of the Bible like the Revised Standard Version, Jerusalem Bible, American Standard Version, NIV and so on the only version where verse 21 appears in Matthew 17 is the KJV.

Now I get where you're coming from, good night.

Dada4me:


My fasting is to God, the father of the Lord Jesus Christ.

What would Yahweh do for you for starving yourself unnecessarily?