sunboy:

I disagree sir!

While Ashewo is Yoruba word.
Ashawo is a broken English word, that was borrowed from Ashewo.

Ibos choose that word from the broken side of things. Yes broken English popularize Ashawo as the preferred word for prostitution. And broken English is not specific to Ibos, it’s spoken across west Africa. Even my Liberian and Sierra Leon friends use Ashawo without knowing its origin but know that it means prostitute.

Ire o!

vince2016:


Do you know that Yoruba has the first organized monarchical system in the Nigeria space.
O ba means he who presides over with authority. Oba ba lori ohun gbogbo. Meaning the king presides or has the preeminence over all things.

Some people think Yoruba don't know their history. The oral literature of Yoruba is very rich in history of stories and events as far back as 1300.

MrColdsweat:
You see a Yoruba professor say oduduwa fell from the sky.

Fools!!

sunboy:


Agbero is a different word. I did not generalize “ALL” words. My comment was about the word “Ashewo” and Ashawo being a broken word not Ibo.

Thebadpolitican:


It is called omo noba

Simple meaning it means king

Deeper meanimg

It means omo noba ( the child that shines for the edo people) that is the actual title not just oba

2elliot:
There is nothing to envy about your history. If not for the white man, you would have been out there right now in this night heading towards either Oyo or Ice to war amongst yourselves.

agabusta:





The whole Nigeria is using 'wahala' now. Including the Lebanese Nigerians too, always saying 'no wahala'.

Wahala is from which language please??

michlins:
All these things wouldn't be issue if our parents didn't give up on their identity on the basis of religion and civilization. On top of that, the government banned the teaching of history in our school system

2elliot:
There is nothing to envy about your history. If not for the white man, you would have been out there right now in this night heading towards either Oyo or Ice to war amongst yourselves.

Ogene001:

That broken version was created through "Igbonization" according to Igbo grammatical rules

agabusta:


With due respect, this is not making sense compared to the former submission you responded to.

How can you say "Ashawo' is a broken English word?? This should only be suggested by people without any knowledge of english and the origin of the word.

Can any English word be broken into Ashawo? Even the English man will wonder in confusion how an unknown word is said to be broken English.

Is simply a broken yoruba word infused into the spoken broken English.

sunboy:


Broken English is spoken across West Africa. It’s not an Ibo only English nor was it created or popularized by Ibo.

sunboy:


Read again where I said it was derived from Ashewo which is a Yoruba word.

Broke English by definition = A type of English that has some element of local content in it. Broken English varies by accent and local content. It doesn’t not have to be derived from an English word. Words like commot … has got nothing to do with English language nor is it linked to any local language… those are broken English words that got adopted and accepted. The Carribean patio is constructed exactly like this too.

To reaffirm, the word Ashewo is a Yoruba word, borrowed by broken English and used across West African countries that speak broken English. In parts, this is accelerated by the fact that most Afro beats originated from Lagos which happens to be a Yoruba state.

Ire o!

Ogene001:

Pidgin words and expressions have tribal origins. Guy I hate pointless argument.
Pidgin Words like wahala, wayo, etc are Hausa. People who use it don't even know

sunboy:


You’re the one who’s arguing pointless here… read my comment again where I said broken English have local or tribal content to it. How’s that an arguement when you’re agreeing to it??

illicit:
Lol

Ife precedes Oyo kingdom

How can Benin send a prince to save Ife from Oyo that was non existent by that time

Infact Benin wasn't existing as a kingdom then because it was the same prince that established Benin kingdom that also established Oyo


And the prince came from Ife

Oduduwa was not alive when Oyo was founded

lexylaw40:
Meet

Ikaladeran the crown prince of Bini who left his kingdom with his full entourage [b]was found in the forest of ife [/b]by hunters in his full regalia

He was taken to the town and treated with respect and given a warm welcome, it was then he said “Izoduwa” meaning “I have reached home” they didn’t understand what he said because he was speaking Bini language. So all they heard was Oduduwa and that how his name came about.

agabusta:


The child can mean anybody. Even outsiders that came in and shines for the Edo people.

Omo in Yoruba is child.

Omo oba, is Child of King.

This title cements the history that indeed, an Ife Prince came and was installed to preside over the affairs of the Edo people.

Who knows? Sometimes internal wrangling among families can be so severe that the opposing sides will prefer a neutral person to be chosen to preside.

The Ife Prince ruling in Edo does not in anyway mean he founded Edo.

Thebadpolitican:


Read this

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware

agabusta:


Either ways, they seem to have a connection in history. The Benin crown most especially and the yorubas. The interesting thing to note here is that it seems it is the Benin Crown itself that has a strong tie to the Yorubas and not the entirety of the Edo people.

Dsimmer:


The Ekaledehan who died in Ughoton. Na craze? In fact, Before the existence of the whole Bini, Oduduwa already ruled several years and died!

It was even Bini who were crying for organisation thus Oranmiyan being there but had to leave because he couldn't be in two places at a time thus had to leave for Oyo thus their anger because they didn't want Oranmiyan to leave. Then the Bini quickly made his son a king after he was birthed while Oranmiyan already left.

illicit:


Lol

Omonoba is a corruption of the Yoruba words 'Omo Oba' Prince

The first Oba Of Benin was a Prince from Ife

Omo is a Yoruba word, meaning child, Benins adopted it.

👌


How does the child that shines for the Edo people translates to KING

🤷

illicit:
Lol

Oduduwa's Ife precedes Oyo kingdom

How can Benin send a prince to save Ife from Oyo that was non existent by the time of Oduduwa

Infact Benin wasn't existing as a kingdom then because it was the same prince that established Benin kingdom that also established Oyo


And the prince came from Ife (A descendant of Oduduwa)

Oduduwa was long dead when Oyo was founded

princemillla:



I swear this dumb head will just create non sense history.

agabusta:


Either ways, they seem to have a connection in history. The Benin crown most especially and the yorubas. The interesting thing to note here is that it seems it is the Benin Crown itself that has a strong tie to the Yorubas and not the entirety of the Edo people.

Dsimmer:
I wonder how some people don't use their brain when hearing gibberish.

It was Ife which birthed Oyo empire. So what freedom are you even talking about? Lol 😂As a matter of fact, Oranmiyan was ruling Oyo and Bini at the same time but couldn't rule two at a time thus had to leave for Oyo, even though the Bini didn't want him to leave for Oyo, thus were angry after he left.

Meanwhile, Oduduwa predates the whole existence of Bini. Before Ekaledehan who died in Ughoton was even born, Oduduwa already became an Ife king long ago. Oduduwa descended from Oke Ora to Ife to become the King after Obatala. Now, can you see the name "Oba"Tala? Ife birthed other towns.

forgiveness:


Ask Ogiamien. They will tell you Oba of Benin is from Ile Ife and Yoruba.

They ended the reign of the Ogiso by conquest. The treaty signed by both parties are still available.

Christistruth00:





On top of all that it was Ife that Founded Benin


Yes I said It !!!!!


Ife founded Igodomigodo and Benin!!!!

Ogiso Obagodo who founded Igodomigodo Kingdom was an Ife man who was sent from Ife

He and his followers from Ife founded Igodomigodo!


When the Truth is on your Side God Almighty is on Your Side


Ife Founded Benin!!!!!


Oya!!
Wetin you want talk again !!
Deal with it!!!!


Cc Seun

XAUBulls:

Obagodo of Igodomigodo.

A very sound investisative work.

So, the forebears of Ugbolokun which later became Ufe (Ife) had contact before the Oduduwa dynasty started in Ife.

It's the fear of losing out in a power tussle that has made the Oranmiyan dynasty descendant to deny their paternal Yoruba and Ife origins. Their maternal lineage is Bini and they are also Binis so the dynasty will remain. The Ogiamen and Ogiso families should reach a peaceful settlement because it is too late to remove the Obaship dynasty from the throne after over 800 years.

For the Yorubas, the Binis are related through marriage and royal ancestral bloodline ties so whether in Ife or Lagos Island, Binis will be welcome as part of the larger family just like the members of royal families in many European countries are direct cousins or family members.

sunboy:

I disagree sir!

While Ashewo is Yoruba word.
Ashawo is a broken English word, that was borrowed from Ashewo.

Ibos choose that word from the broken side of things. Yes broken English popularize Ashawo as the preferred word for prostitution. And broken English is not specific to Ibos, it’s spoken across west Africa. Even my Liberian and Sierra Leon friends use Ashawo without knowing its origin but know that it means prostitute.

Ire o!

Antivirus92:
Lagos is Bini land, period

No land grabber should quote me