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Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by adecz: 3:30pm On Dec 08, 2023
undecided



Same Air Force that bombed a
refugee camp in 2017, killing over
200 refugees is now claiming an holier
or more competent than thou attitude
against the Nigerian army.


A hypocritical behavior of the Muslim
North is that, when such errors happen
under Buhari, their hypocrisy and bigotry
doesn't allow them say anything against
Buhari or all the security chiefs, since they
were all northern Muslims.


But now, because chief of Army Staff is
a non muslim, na so different northern
groups are shouting and calling for war
and sack.


Same Muslim groups kept quiet as Muslim
terrorists took over Northern Nigeria,
killing tens of thousands, kidnapping,
raping, burning down villages in Katsina,
Kaduna, Zamfara, Niger, Plateau, Kebbi,
FCT etc...



Hypocrisy keee dem all..❗️❗️❗️❗️😐😐😐

RIP to the dead.

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Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by lexy2014: 3:30pm On Dec 08, 2023
dangermouse:
What happened to sending combatants to the said location since they already have the coordinates? That should have been the rational thing to do.

Air strikes are normally called by grounded troops who will issue coordinates for airstrikes with little or no mistakes. Unless the gathering was in the middle of the forest. Who celebrates what ever in the middle of the forest?

By all indications the strike must be on people celebrating the festivity in their community.
N. A goofed on this and the officers involved should be made to face the music.

are you the one that developed this operational procedure for the military?
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by Never4getU: 3:31pm On Dec 08, 2023
dangermouse:
What happened to sending combatants to the said location since they already have the coordinates? That should have been the rational thing to do.

Air strikes are normally called by grounded troops who will issue coordinates for airstrikes with little or no mistakes. Unless the gathering was in the middle of the forest. Who celebrates what ever in the middle of the forest?

By all indications the strike must be on people celebrating the festivity in their community.
N. A goofed on this and the officers involved should be made to face the music.

This shouldn't be wept under the carpet because the magnitude of this horrific incident calls for a serious investigation.

This is massacre and to be reflective of America concern over the sales of these fighter jets back then.
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by Antoeni(m): 3:32pm On Dec 08, 2023
Dem Wan Start Fight, Between Army & Air Force, But Everybody Know say Army Na Mumu Abi Zombies
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by illicit(m): 3:34pm On Dec 08, 2023
Omo i feel that bombing was intentional
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by spy24(m): 3:36pm On Dec 08, 2023
illicit:
Omo i feel that bombing was intentional


I dey tell you...

Terrorist dey there

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Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by Racoon(m): 3:36pm On Dec 08, 2023
See the kind of uncoordinated security interaction between sister forces.
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by waledeji(m): 3:37pm On Dec 08, 2023
goodnessme1:
Yoruba soldiers ignored air force advice and bombed something no good for north.






Even if na war zone.
Not too long ago it was Fulani solders , Now its Yoruba Soldiers cheesy cheesy cheesy


Ibo people eh😂😂😂😂

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Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by EdiskyHarry: 3:40pm On Dec 08, 2023
GOTVee:
sad Even though I'm a born again Christian, I hope those lamenting about the accidental bombings by the Nigerian Army can finally get a feel of what the Palestinians are suffering from constant Israeli bombardments. Some Nigerians with mental problems are supporting isreali brutality in Gaza just because of their hatred for people of other faiths. Our lord and savior Jesus christ admonished we Christians to love our neighbors as ourselves but the present generation of Christians are a disgrace to Christianity. How can a sane mind support the bombing of Innocent women and children just because of a few renegades amongst them? May God continue to guide and protect the Palestinians against the evil of Israel. Amen sad
Ah beg get out of here, wetin concern Gaza now with innocent Nigerians being killed by our own army.
Most times I wonder if some people here are really ok.

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Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by illicit(m): 3:44pm On Dec 08, 2023
spy24:


I dey tell you...

Terrorist dey there

Correct

If a northerner was the army chief, it won't happen
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by Lighthome: 3:48pm On Dec 08, 2023
Do not mind them. Everyone is now claiming competent apart from the army. Has Airforce not killed Innocent people too. Even advance country make mistake too when it comes to warfare. That is why we say, nothing like peace. You can even see the unfortunate situations when some like Gumi are turning it to religious issues. Very sad indeed
UnknownT:
As if Airforce are even better. During Buhari's time, Airforce also bombed innocent people too
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by Khyrvxjzy: 3:48pm On Dec 08, 2023
goodnessme1:
Yoruba soldiers ignored air force advice and bombed something no good for north.






Even if na war zone.


ibo won gay north

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Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by spiSeyi: 3:51pm On Dec 08, 2023
Why should the Nigerian Army be doing the works of the Airforce undecided? Just like how the Police do the work of FIRS and VIO which shouldn't be. The lack of synergy within our armed forces is a time bomb and it's becoming glaring day by day.
The Nigerian armed forces need to be restructured and the army should be banned from conducting any air rade
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by HRMK: 3:51pm On Dec 08, 2023
this isnt time to be passing blames!
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by dangermouse(m): 3:51pm On Dec 08, 2023
lexy2014:


are you the one that developed this operational procedure for the military?

When troops on ground calls in an air strike, the coordinates are always with precision with little or no mistakes in terms of innocent casualties. True or false?

Drone surveillance in as much as they are effective and efficient too, depends on the capability of those mounting the aerial surveillance (risk/threat detection and assessment).

Use of drones are more complicated even as it seems so easy to use.
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by MadamExcellency: 3:52pm On Dec 08, 2023
The Nigerian Army is watching too many IDF escapades in Gaza.

It was quite unfortunate, that they failed with respect to intelligence.
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by Rebuker(m): 3:53pm On Dec 08, 2023
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by Iko5000: 3:54pm On Dec 08, 2023
Sorry what has being a born again Christain have to do with this , you are either christain or not , adding another title to distinguish yourself is why is love love in the Christain kingdom . A muslim is a muslim , they do not start a stament as a sunai Muslim when discusing a topic .
GOTVee:
sad Even though I'm a born again Christian, I hope those lamenting about the accidental bombings by the Nigerian Army can finally get a feel of what the Palestinians are suffering from constant Israeli bombardments. Some Nigerians with mental problems are supporting isreali brutality in Gaza just because of their hatred for people of other faiths. Our lord and savior Jesus christ admonished we Christians to love our neighbors as ourselves but the present generation of Christians are a disgrace to Christianity. How can a sane mind support the bombing of Innocent women and children just because of a few renegades amongst them? May God continue to guide and protect the Palestinians against the evil of Israel. Amen sad

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Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by LillyandDaisy: 3:54pm On Dec 08, 2023
UN and ECOWAS will never see this now
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by DIVINEEVIDENCE: 3:54pm On Dec 08, 2023
GOTVee:
sad Even though I'm a born again Christian, I hope those lamenting about the accidental bombings by the Nigerian Army can finally get a feel of what the Palestinians are suffering from constant Israeli bombardments. Some Nigerians with mental problems are supporting isreali brutality in Gaza just because of their hatred for people of other faiths. Our lord and savior Jesus christ admonished we Christians to love our neighbors as ourselves but the present generation of Christians are a disgrace to Christianity. How can a sane mind support the bombing of Innocent women and children just because of a few renegades amongst them? May God continue to guide and protect the Palestinians against the evil of Israel. Amen sad

Ewu 🐐

Goan preach to Netanyahu, if you get mind.
Naim dey dash Hamas better uppercut, no be Nairalanders.

Once in a while, try sit down and look at the double life you lead online and ask yourself if your god truly supports identity theft and impersonation.

Na to feed Hamas salty seawater inside their rodent holes remain.

Cry me a river if you wish.

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Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by frog12: 3:55pm On Dec 08, 2023
no intelligence
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by seborrhic: 3:59pm On Dec 08, 2023
Rubbish.
There is nothing special in flying drones.
The drones hit their intended target area,so it wasn't a matter of hitting a wrong location or the wrong coordinate.It was poor intelligence gathering and inability to distinguish between a terrorist gathering and a civilian gathering.
This was a failure of intelligence gathering on the ground and nothing to do with any rubbish superior training the airforce may claim to have.
Someone can be trained in one month to fly a combat drone and be effective in it.
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by Ladech(m): 4:07pm On Dec 08, 2023
Am sorry to say someone or some people within the military are not supposed to have anything to do with operations that require high precision.
If you investigate further you may find out that some of the guys in charge had F9 in Mathematics and Physics. By quota system, they found themselves fiddling with high precision deadly weapons.

It's not the first, neither is it the second time. Some people need to be kicked out.
Islie:


https://dailytrust.com/exclusive-army-carried-out-kaduna-airstrikes-against-air-force-advice-sources/#google_vignette
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by Bigkoko: 4:09pm On Dec 08, 2023
The most hypocritic country on earth...... When the air force bombed IDP camp, no frustration was expressed. When South Kaduna villages were bombed no ACF issued a statement. When other Christian hoods were blown to smithscreens, no investigations. But when it happened, innocent error of target, the sympathizers of terrorists erupt in condemning it. All because it was predominantly muslims that were victims. How do we even know it was not the Commanders of boko haram that were liquidated, and these terror sympathizers were the ones who gave their permission to openly gather and celebrate?

Na hypocrisy go kill all of una starting from form that smelly sheilk Gumi or whatever he calls himself.
Sha i pity Northern Christians, but pray hard to G-d for the Igbos to have their Biafra, i foreseen an intervention when ever these evil people massacre una. No need to worry, Igbos have hardliners who will influence such interventions.


Islie:


https://dailytrust.com/exclusive-army-carried-out-kaduna-airstrikes-against-air-force-advice-sources/#google_vignette
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by Bigkoko: 4:10pm On Dec 08, 2023
The most hypocritic country on earth...... When the air force bombed IDP camp, no frustration was expressed. When South Kaduna villages were bombed no ACF issued a statement. When other Christian hoods were blown to smithscreens, no investigations. But when it happened, innocent error of target, the sympathizers of terrorists erupt in condemning it. All because it was predominantly muslims that were victims. How do we even know it was not the Commanders of boko haram that were liquidated, and these terror sympathizers were the ones who gave their permission to openly gather and celebrate?

Na hypocrisy go kill all of una starting from form that smelly sheilk Gumi or whatever he calls himself.
Sha i pity Northern Christians, but pray hard to G-d for the Igbos to have their Biafra, i foreseen an intervention when ever these evil people massacre una. No need to worry, Igbos have hardliners who will influence such interventions.

Islie:


https://dailytrust.com/exclusive-army-carried-out-kaduna-airstrikes-against-air-force-advice-sources/#google_vignette
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by Bigkoko: 4:13pm On Dec 08, 2023
Imagine they have started blaming a piece of high precision machine that delivered on the job it was sent to do.

This could well be an intelligence failure or the target was real but the terrorists used human shield like their buddies in Gaza Strip, terrorists in midst of innocent civilians all united by religion....


seborrhic:
Rubbish.
There is nothing special in flying drones.
The drones hit their intended target area,so it wasn't a matter of hitting a wrong location or the wrong coordinate.It was poor intelligence gathering and inability to distinguish between a terrorist gathering and a civilian gathering.
This was a failure of intelligence gathering on the ground and nothing to do with any rubbish superior training the airforce may claim to have.
Someone can be trained in one month to fly a combat drone and be effective in it.
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by Bigkoko: 4:18pm On Dec 08, 2023
RIP? What if the target were real boko fighters coming out to celebrate with their wives? And the Army under a yoruba christian refused to share Intels with a hausa fulani muslim so has not to inform the terrorists? Nigeria Army no fight loose guard and allow terrorist go free, especially when na Christian yoruba dey there.



adecz:
undecided



Same Air Force that bombed a
refugee camp in 2017, killing over
200 refugees is now claiming an holier
or more competent than thou attitude
against the Nigerian army.


A hypocritical behavior of the Muslim
North is that, when such errors happen
under Buhari, their hypocrisy and bigotry
doesn't allow them say anything against
Buhari or all the security chiefs, since they
were all northern Muslims.


But now, because chief of Army Staff is
a non muslim, na so different northern
groups are shouting and calling for war
and sack.


Same Muslim groups kept quiet as Muslim
terrorists took over Northern Nigeria,
killing tens of thousands, kidnapping,
raping, burning down villages in Katsina,
Kaduna, Zamfara, Niger, Plateau, Kebbi,
FCT etc...



Hypocrisy keee dem all..❗️❗️❗️❗️😐😐😐

RIP to the dead.

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Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by PHIPEX(m): 4:18pm On Dec 08, 2023
Who did the same wrong bombings of civilians of the past? Instead of finding solution they want to go the route of blame game
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by victorazyvictor(m): 4:20pm On Dec 08, 2023
dangermouse:
What happened to sending combatants to the said location since they already have the coordinates? That should have been the rational thing to do.

Air strikes are normally called by grounded troops who will issue coordinates for airstrikes with little or no mistakes. Unless the gathering was in the middle of the forest. Who celebrates what ever in the middle of the forest?

By all indications the strike must be on people celebrating the festivity in their community.
N. A goofed on this and the officers involved should be made to face the music.

Why are you ppl wasting una time?

They tell una say they don't know what they are doing?

This Population Reduction game.
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by orisa37: 4:23pm On Dec 08, 2023
BMFBOKOISWA JUST REPEATED HAMAS ISRAELI'S WICKED ATTACK IN KADUNA.
Re: Army Carried Out Kaduna Airstrikes Against Air Force Advice – Daily Trust by samonak(m): 4:27pm On Dec 08, 2023
Though highly regrettable, collateral damages like this is not totally unavoidable. The united states, even with sophisticated and hi tech reaper drones killed a lot of innocent civilians while carrying out strikes against terrorists in Pakistan and Afghanistan. One critical angle the military is Underutilizing is HUMINT ( human intelligence) they ought to have to used agents on ground to give them a clear picture of what's on ground before giving the green light. Secondly, the NAF has the erroneous belief that they have sole prerogative to carry out all air related operations, which is wrong. The 5 branches of the US military ( Army, Air force, Navy, Marine and Coast guard) each has their air component, which carry out complimentary and joint missions. Ever since the creation of the Nigeria army aviation corp, the NAF has been a cog impeding the wheels the Army air corp, they've frustrated the acquisition of air platforms and related assets at every turn. The rivalry came to a head during the tenure of Burantai as COAS and Sadiqque Abubakar as CAS. Their petty ego trip resulted in the death of Lt - Col Sakaba and over 200 soldiers and officers in Metele - Borno. The army called in an air strike on enemy positions around their camp, but the NAF refused to heed the call, the rest is history. Bureaucracies like this informed the decision of the NA to establish their own air outfit with limited strike ability. So the NAF should accept the reality that the NA air corp has come to stay and are in no contention with them.

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