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Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by maipeople(m): 5:52pm On Oct 31, 2011
Nairalanders, I saw it somewhere and I personally know that the content is true because I am muslim. I want to share this with my christian brethren so that it will help them in knowing who are true followers of Islam and followers of Christianity, who are just claiming to be Muslims without practicing Islam or Christians without practicing Christianity.
I know it may be a bit lengthy, but the information contained therein is very vital.
[b]NOTE:[/b]We should not allow any paid IMAM or paid PASTOR to create a discord between US (Nigerians), thereby aiding those in power to continue with their project of DESTROYING NIGERIA.


Written by Prof Brainy Saturday, 29 October 2011 05:00
Fourteen hundred years ago, two groups of Arabs stood before the Ethiopian Christian king, Negus. Both groups had urgent requests.
Although both groups spoke the same language, came from the same city and maybe brothers even, they couldn’t have been more different.
The first group that came to Abyssinia (Ethiopia) was that of mostly young men who believed in a new prophet who proclaimed that he had been sent from one true God, Allah. They called themselves Muslims. Their request: They wanted the king to use his famous justice to allow them to remain in Ethiopia and protect them against the other group. However, the other wanted the exact opposite: they were the (polytheist) chiefs of Mecca who importuned the good king to allow them return home with these deviants - who had blasphemed their gods – so that they could reform them.
However, they conveniently left out the fact that their method of reformation consisted, chiefly, of torture: including spearing a pregnant woman in the stomach.
King Negus patiently listened to both parties but he wanted more. So he asked the Muslim group to explain their religion and to confirm if what their prophet taught was heresy.
So the Muslim told the king that their prophet did not come with anything new, that his message was only a confirmation of what came before from other prophets, like Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them). Ja’afar, the leader of the Muslims said:
“O King, we and our ancestors turned away in ignorance from the faith of the Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him), who with Ishmael (peace be upon him), built the Kabah and worshipped only Allah.
We did quite unspeakable things, worshipping idols, treating our neighbours unfairly, oppressing the weak and so on. This was our life until Allah sent a Messenger from among us, one of our own relatives, known always to have been honest, innocent and faithful.
He asked us to worship only Allah, to give up the bad customs of our forefathers, to be truthful and trustworthy, to respect and help our neighbours, to honour our families and look after orphans, and to put an end to misdeeds and fighting.
He ordered us to slander neither men nor women. He bade us worship none other than Allah, to pray, to give alms and to fast. We believe in him and follow his lead.
The Makkans began to come between us and our religion, so we left our homes and came to you, hoping to find justice.”
Upon hearing this, King Negus said, “Tell me some of the revelations which your Prophet claims to have received from God.”
Ja’afar then recited chapter 19 which is called the chapter of Maryam (Mary) in the Qur’an in which Mary, the pure and devoted mother of Jesus (peace be upon him), had to face angry and disbelieving family members. She pointed to the Baby Jesus, but they said they could not speak to a mere baby. Then Jesus himself astonished them by uttering words of great wisdom.
Overwhelmed at this, the King exclaimed: “The messages of Jesus and Muhammad come from the same source!” And drawing a line with his cane on the floor, he said joyfully, “Between your religion and ours there is really no more difference than this line.” King Negus gave the Muslims permission to live peacefully in his kingdom.
Tolerance does not fully cover the conduct of the king and the reception he gave the Muslims. One, when the Muslims came, they refused to bow to the king saying “we bow only to Allah”. This quite nettled the king’s advisers but the just ruler didn’t mind. Two, the Meccan polytheists came with many gifts to bribe the king with, so that he could give them the Muslims but he repelled them saying they were not used to taking bribes. Third, the Muslims’ stay in Ethiopia was quite prolonged; at a point, they heard a rumour that the persecution they suffered in Mecca had abated, they rushed home only to discover that the news was false, some of them returned back to Ethiopia and the king let them into his realm.
The Muslims up until today are grateful for the kindness of the Christian king. A wicked ruler might have taken advantage of the inchoate state of Islam at the time to grant the request of the polytheists so that Christianity wouldn’t have a competition or nip in the bud the rise of a future ruler, but he didn’t. He allowed Islam to blossom and repelled those who persecuted its adherents.
Muhammad (SAW) never forgot this favour and was forever beholden to Christianity. Because of this gratitude, this migration to Ethiopia is history 101 in Islam. Every Muslim is supposed to know it but we, especially those in Nigeria tend to forget. And it may come as a shock to Nigerian Christians to know that a powerful Christian king once aided, however indirectly, the growth of Islam when he could have easily done the opposite.
But what may shock both Muslims and Christians is the content of the letter that Muhammad (peace be upon him) wrote the Christians.
In 628 C.E. - when Islam was already quite powerful - Prophet Muhammad (SAW) granted a Charter of Privileges to the monks of St. Catherine Monastery in Mt. Sinai.
Following is a translation of the clauses in that document:
This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.
Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them.
Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses.
Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight.
The Muslims are to fight for them.
If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.
No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).
Let me repeat the last clause for the sake of emphasis: “No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day”
I urge every Muslim to honestly ask himself “have I knowingly or unknowingly disobeyed this covenant?” And the Christian should ask himself “Am I as large-minded toward the Muslims as the great Christian King Negus?”
Two years later, in 630 AD Muhammad received a Christian delegation from Najran in Medina. Muhammad lodged them in the mosque (yes, in the mosque!). Debate with Christians ensued for some days. Finally, all the kinks were straightened and Muhammad extended the hand of friendship towards them, subsequently, a treaty was signed and both parties left on friendly terms.
Finally, just before Muhammad’s death, another Christian delegation from Iraq by Jesujab II headed towards Medina but Muhammad died before it arrived.
In the sequel to this article, I’ll discuss how the early Muslims after Muhammad were extra careful not to break the covenant with the Christians. Until then, peace
Re: Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by jayriginal: 10:52pm On Oct 31, 2011
maipeople:

Written by Prof Brainy Saturday, 29 October 2011 05:00
Following is a translation of the clauses in that document:
This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.
Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them.
Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses.
Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight.
The Muslims are to fight for them.
If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.
No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).
Let me repeat the last clause for the sake of emphasis: “No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day”



So why do christians get slaughtered in Northern Nigeria ?
Re: Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by Nobody: 11:03pm On Oct 31, 2011
jayriginal:


So why do christians get slaughtered in Northern Nigeria ?


Not only Christians , but atheists as well.

If you cannot say Allah is great in Arabic, you are dead meat.

Try it, honestly. But please leave some of your estate to me before making an attempt. grin
Re: Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by jayriginal: 11:16pm On Oct 31, 2011
frosbel:

Not only Christians , but atheists as well.

If you cannot say Allah is great in Arabic, you are dead meat.

Try it, honestly. But please leave some of your estate to me before making an attempt. grin
grin grin grin
Re: Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by maipeople(m): 11:55pm On Oct 31, 2011
jayriginal:


So why do christians get slaughtered in Northern Nigeria ?

It is because the majority of the so called muslims in northern nigeria are not practicing the real Islam(remember, I am muslim and I spent many good dedicated years doing nothing but studying Islam) and these people are easily manipulated by ill-intended cohorts into executing what deepen the enmity between the people of the nation, thereby creating an avenue for them to continue in their subjugation and cornering the resources of the country. Hope this explain the politics behind it.

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Re: Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by jayriginal: 12:08am On Nov 01, 2011
maipeople:

It is because the majority of the so called muslims in northern nigeria are not practicing the real Islam(remember, I am muslim and I spent nine good dedicated years doing nothing but studying Islam) and these people are easily manipulated by ill-intended cohorts into executing what deepen the enmity between the people of the nation, thereby creating an avenue for them to continue in their subjugation and cornering the resources of the country. Hope this explain the politics behind it.
Do you agree with everything the poster wrote? If you dont, where do you differ ?
Re: Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by maipeople(m): 12:12am On Nov 01, 2011
@Jayriginal: Of course yes, I agreed completely with what the original author say because I have read it before, but I can not present it as he does.
Re: Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by jayriginal: 12:35am On Nov 01, 2011
maipeople:

@Jayriginal: Of course yes, I agreed completely with what the original author say because I have read it before, but I can not present it as he does.

Thanks for your answer.
I am not especially knowledgeable about islam. I just know that in practice the situation is radically different from your proposal (and the OP).
Are you saying that there is no scriptural backing (Islam wise) for the slaughter of unbelievers (even if misconstrued) ? Are you saying that its all politics ?
Re: Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by maipeople(m): 1:05am On Nov 01, 2011
jayriginal:

Thanks for your answer.
I am not especially knowledgeable about islam. I just know that in practice the situation is radically different from your proposal (and the OP).
Are you saying that there is no scriptural backing (Islam wise) for the slaughter of unbelievers (even if misconstrued) ? Are you saying that its all politics ?

See, In Islam, UNBELIEVER refers to anybody (muslim or not) who attacks Muslims or people under muslim's protection(these people can be Christian, Pagan etc). Now the question is: Does the Christians here in north attack us? The answer is capital NO. So why killing innocent souls? Killing innocent soul is not only prohibited, but whoever carried this dastardly act will be accounted for it and most likely this person may end up in hell fire. My advice, do as Americans and English people do, read about Islam not what muslims do nowadays, because Muslims and Islam are operating at two different frequencies presently. I am sorry, it is very painful for me to be saying this as a muslim, but it is the bitter truth. How I wish I can open the heart of Nigerian Christian and show them the true meaning of Islam.
Take a look at what is happening in the Occupy Wall Street now, do you know that these people are combination of Muslim and Christian including those at ST Paul church. Why is it only Nigerian Muslim and Christian are always at loggerhead? Because it benefits the so called leaders, irrespective of their religion,tribe or geographical location.
Re: Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by jayriginal: 5:14am On Nov 01, 2011
^^^ What I am asking is whether or not there is some sort of backing from the Quran that is used to justify the killings.
Re: Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by Bunnatex(m): 12:54pm On Nov 01, 2011
THEN WHATz The problem with the northerners. They enjoy killing christians. In the name of Jihad. [color=#990000][/color]
Re: Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:19pm On Nov 01, 2011
maipeople:

Nairalanders, I saw it somewhere and I personally know that the content is true because I am muslim. I want to share this with my christian brethren so that it will help them in knowing who are true followers of Islam and followers of Christianity, who are just claiming to be Muslims without practicing Islam or Christians without practicing Christianity.
I know it may be a bit lengthy, but the information contained therein is very vital.
[b]NOTE:[/b]We should not allow any paid IMAM or paid PASTOR to create a discord between US (Nigerians), thereby aiding those in power to continue with their project of DESTROYING NIGERIA.


Written by Prof Brainy Saturday, 29 October 2011 05:00
Fourteen hundred years ago, two groups of Arabs stood before the Ethiopian Christian king, Negus. Both groups had urgent requests.
Although both groups spoke the same language, came from the same city and maybe brothers even, they couldn’t have been more different.
The first group that came to Abyssinia (Ethiopia) was that of mostly young men who believed in a new prophet who proclaimed that he had been sent from one true God, Allah. They called themselves Muslims. Their request: They wanted the king to use his famous justice to allow them to remain in Ethiopia and protect them against the other group. However, the other wanted the exact opposite: they were the (polytheist) chiefs of Mecca who importuned the good king to allow them return home with these deviants - who had blasphemed their gods – so that they could reform them.
However, they conveniently left out the fact that their method of reformation consisted, chiefly, of torture: including spearing a pregnant woman in the stomach.
King Negus patiently listened to both parties but he wanted more. So he asked the Muslim group to explain their religion and to confirm if what their prophet taught was heresy.
So the Muslim told the king that their prophet did not come with anything new, that his message was only a confirmation of what came before from other prophets, like Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them). Ja’afar, the leader of the Muslims said:
“O King, we and our ancestors turned away in ignorance from the faith of the Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him), who with Ishmael (peace be upon him), built the Kabah and worshipped only Allah.
We did quite unspeakable things, worshipping idols, treating our neighbours unfairly, oppressing the weak and so on. This was our life until Allah sent a Messenger from among us, one of our own relatives, known always to have been honest, innocent and faithful.
He asked us to worship only Allah, to give up the bad customs of our forefathers, to be truthful and trustworthy, to respect and help our neighbours, to honour our families and look after orphans, and to put an end to misdeeds and fighting.
He ordered us to slander neither men nor women. He bade us worship none other than Allah, to pray, to give alms and to fast. We believe in him and follow his lead.
The Makkans began to come between us and our religion, so we left our homes and came to you, hoping to find justice.”
Upon hearing this, King Negus said, “Tell me some of the revelations which your Prophet claims to have received from God.”
Ja’afar then recited chapter 19 which is called the chapter of Maryam (Mary) in the Qur’an in which Mary, the pure and devoted mother of Jesus (peace be upon him), had to face angry and disbelieving family members. She pointed to the Baby Jesus, but they said they could not speak to a mere baby. Then Jesus himself astonished them by uttering words of great wisdom.
Overwhelmed at this, the King exclaimed: “The messages of Jesus and Muhammad come from the same source!” And drawing a line with his cane on the floor, he said joyfully, “Between your religion and ours there is really no more difference than this line.” King Negus gave the Muslims permission to live peacefully in his kingdom.
Tolerance does not fully cover the conduct of the king and the reception he gave the Muslims. One, when the Muslims came, they refused to bow to the king saying “we bow only to Allah”. This quite nettled the king’s advisers but the just ruler didn’t mind. Two, the Meccan polytheists came with many gifts to bribe the king with, so that he could give them the Muslims but he repelled them saying they were not used to taking bribes. Third, the Muslims’ stay in Ethiopia was quite prolonged; at a point, they heard a rumour that the persecution they suffered in Mecca had abated, they rushed home only to discover that the news was false, some of them returned back to Ethiopia and the king let them into his realm.
The Muslims up until today are grateful for the kindness of the Christian king. A wicked ruler might have taken advantage of the inchoate state of Islam at the time to grant the request of the polytheists so that Christianity wouldn’t have a competition or nip in the bud the rise of a future ruler, but he didn’t. He allowed Islam to blossom and repelled those who persecuted its adherents.
Muhammad (SAW) never forgot this favour and was forever beholden to Christianity. Because of this gratitude, this migration to Ethiopia is history 101 in Islam. Every Muslim is supposed to know it but we, especially those in Nigeria tend to forget. And it may come as a shock to Nigerian Christians to know that a powerful Christian king once aided, however indirectly, the growth of Islam when he could have easily done the opposite.
But what may shock both Muslims and Christians is the content of the letter that Muhammad (peace be upon him) wrote the Christians.
In 628 C.E. - when Islam was already quite powerful - Prophet Muhammad (SAW) granted a Charter of Privileges to the monks of St. Catherine Monastery in Mt. Sinai.
Following is a translation of the clauses in that document:
This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.
Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them.
Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses.
Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight.
The Muslims are to fight for them.
If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.
No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).
Let me repeat the last clause for the sake of emphasis: “No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day”
I urge every Muslim to honestly ask himself “have I knowingly or unknowingly disobeyed this covenant?” And the Christian should ask himself “Am I as large-minded toward the Muslims as the great Christian King Negus?”
Two years later, in 630 AD Muhammad received a Christian delegation from Najran in Medina. Muhammad lodged them in the mosque (yes, in the mosque!). Debate with Christians ensued for some days. Finally, all the kinks were straightened and Muhammad extended the hand of friendship towards them, subsequently, a treaty was signed and both parties left on friendly terms.
Finally, just before Muhammad’s death, another Christian delegation from Iraq by Jesujab II headed towards Medina but Muhammad died before it arrived.
In the sequel to this article, I’ll discuss how the early Muslims after Muhammad were extra careful not to break the covenant with the Christians. Until then, peace

King Negus referred to here was a Roman Catholic king, and it is true that he accepted Muhammad because his views on the Virgin Mary was similar to the Roman Catholic doctrine.  Do you know how Muhammad came about those doctrines?  Do you know what idol (that had the crescent moon on its chest) the Sabeans in Arabia worshipped before Muhammad was born?  Do you know about the information that links the Vatican to the creation of Islam that is been closely guarded by high ranking Ayatollahs and the Vatican today?  Do you know about the conspiracy between these two to wipe out true Christians believers and Jews but to spare the Roman Catholics and their shrines?  If you don't then you only know a negligent minority of what you practice and believe.
Re: Islam Vs Christianity: A Shocking Story by aurenflani: 10:39pm On Nov 01, 2011
jayriginal. pls add this question (but u can as well answ it) did Jesus specifically said this or not? "I Jesus, i am God the creator of the universe and you all need to worship me"?
This guy is trying to show how both muslims and christians may live in harmony and you are there diverting his effort trying to create discord like satan.

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