jayriginal:

Why not ? They learnt the skill from Men of God who use Malachi 3:8 as an excuse to fleece the flock.

plappville:

I present you a prove that openly contradict your interpretation Sir.
This muslim man has failed his thread completely lols. U ve been perfectly corrected already, but i would still fill u with sense in regard to your misinterpretation. First i must start from he who brought fort marriage. (GOD)

God is the one that brought marriage to mankind. He made the first man, Adam (Genesis 1:26).   He saw that it was not good for Adam to be alone.  He then made a “wife” for Adam. "Note": God did not make “wives” for Adam. If He had wanted Adam to have more than one wife, He would ve made him more than one.  But One was enough.

In Genesis 2:23,24 says that “a man is to leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife.” God did NOT say that man was to be joined to his “wives.”  He said that man was to be joined to his “wife.” That is one and only one!

Paul compares the "husband and wife" to "Christ and the church":  “For the husband is the head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church, ”  (Ephesian 5:23).  In Ephesians 1:22,23 we are told that the church is the body of Christ.  There is only one "body" (Ephesians 4:4) so there is only one church.  Christ has only one church so a man can have only one "wife."  Nowhere does the Bible speak of a man being over wives and that being right with God.

In matt 19:3-9)  Jesus said that “a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his "wife," and the two shall become one "flesh.”  It's one flesh not two. If a man marries more than one wife, how can this varse qualifies him?
It will make no sense bacause a man Cant make one flesh with two wives.

In 1 Timothy 3:2 we are told that an elder MUST be the husband of "ONE WIFE."   Why not two or more?  If it is a good practice, then why should not a church leader be a polygamist?  The reason is that God does NOT want that kind of a marriage. So he will not even promise it, u ve misinterpreted the verse. I ve done u enough proves by contradicting your interpretation. Right from the old testament, we see That God never ordered any man to marry wives.

The ideal of man marrying more than one is a tradition. Some do agree with Gods plan, some not.
You must know that first, Polygamy in the Bible causes strife and jealousy
I can present u multiple cases. And they end up sinning against God. So its a sin for Christians to practice it. How much more will Christ promised it to us.

plappville:

Again, u only choosed the wife. Are you now saying he promised us 100 fathers, mothers etc as in the verse u qouted?

vedaxcool:

That is what Jesus statement says, we are simply showing you the scriptures, the great burden falls upon you, do you accept the verse or not! Jesus statements clearly meant he will give a hundred replacement for everyone you leave!

manmacho:

you are intentionally loosing logic here. the verse u quoted inluded father children and many others. does that mean we will get 100 of all of them. simply answer this questions stop being dodgy.

AbuHanifa:

200? i can's shout! That is even worse that the ascribed 70, If i were frosbel, i will go for 20 GFs and a wife since bible doesnt support 2 or more wives. At least he will compete with biblical solomon.

Plap! How many do u have, at least we can give u a formula to calculate how many men will be allocated. I cant laugh ooo

Sweetnecta:

@Plappville: « #46 on: Today at 08:00:52 PM »Abraham father of faith, Jacob who defeated the God of the Bible and all bible believers, David who killed Goliath, Solomon who was the wisest in the Bible, bar none, etc practiced exactly what Muhammad Al Mustapha Ahmad ibn Abdullah {abibullah [as]] practiced. Eba mi gbe Anabi ga eyin Jama'a. 
did i tell u God condemn anyone for marrying multiple wives? I am saying God did not ordered them to practice it.
Apart from Muhammed that allah gave a revelation on his wives. In the bible God did not do it.
Some of the figures that did it sinned against God as a result. Its a self tradition not divine order.
The bible is silent on certain issue, on like this.

Are you for real?
is like i ask u if U are of real that Muhammed id the source of Islam.

This is your second strike. Didn't Moses see God, according to the Bible? Didn't Jacob defeated God in a wresting match according to the Bible? Didn't Adam was ducking from God in the Garden? I do hope you know that yu have to see first what you are ducking from.
My dear, the names u are calling were before Jesus na, they were gone long before Christ came. ok let me break it for u. effect from when Christ was on earth till date. This authority was alttered by him. And it stands.

That makes him special? Tell me about John the son Zacharia of his pratice man and woman afare, then. [Disclaimer; I am joking with her y'all].
U can read meanings. Christ is special if u want, but that was not py point.


So the nuns and priests are good people I take it because of this, considering your stand against the catholic? 

I wonder which condemnation the Bible gives on the friend of God, and father of Faiths, Abraham who had multiple wives? I wonder what condemnation leveled on Jacob the father of Israel who his children, the jews are the owner of your salvation? 
How did the Bible condemn David whose Psalm is what you read to protect yourself, while you certainly ignore the Gospel because you do know it is powerless because "of my own power i can do nothing"? Solomon was so wise that he was the wisest in the Bible [and Jesus was in the Bible].

[b]You should take ur time and see cases of polygamy in the bible and see the outcome of It. 

Some examples of polygamy in the bible.  The first person to be a polygamist was Lamech see (Genesis 4:19-24). We are told He lived six generations after Adam.  He was a murderer.  Only bad was told of him. 

Abraham was also a polygamist (Genesis 16:1-5). Sarai, was unable to have children.  She gave her slave, Hagar, to be Abraham’s wife. Hagar had Ishmael for Abraham.  Sarah later had Isaac, Jealousy arose, this marriage was then full of troubles. 

Another was Esau. the firstborn of Isaac and Rebekah.  Esau married two Hittite women (Genesis 26:33,34).  They caused much grief to Isaac and Rebekah.  

Gideon was a great and brave leader.  He had 70 sons from many wives  (Judges 8:30,31).  What kind of a father could he be to 70 sons?  Not the kind that God wants us to be. 

King Solomon had 700 wives, princesses, and 300 concubines.  His wives turned his heart away from God (1 Kings 11:3).  His downfall as a king was a result of his practice of polygamy.

There is nowhere in the Bible can we find polygamy doing any good.  All said about it shows it causes troubles.  It has done much harm as u can see. So when Jesus came, He kept teaching the one man one wife practise.
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plappville:

At LagosShia, before ever i speak about any event or activity Muslims are engaged in. I first of all look at the root of it, that is. The founder. Whatever Muslims are practising today, was also praticed by Muhammed. Multiple wives etc.

Did Jesus, the source of Christianity, without him in which no man can see God. Did he pratice man and woman afare? No. Did he encourage did his disciples indulged in multiple wives afare? No. So u must see why your co-muslim has failed his tread. He has no understanding of what he has qouted. The bible does not encourages multiple wives. Period!

PAGAN 9JA:

christianity and islam sickens me more by the day.

LagosShia:

and hardly anything we muslims practice that is not also either found or supported implicitly or explicitly by your bible and the many prophets mentioned in it.

is it polygamy you are talking about?it is there in your bible in the worst of forms.prophets/men of God are mentioned to have taken tens and hundreds of wives with no condemnation from God.someone has already cited that polygamy was practiced even in the christianity and it it a recent phenomenon that christians stopped practicing it.to the admission of christian leaders/clergy,polygamy is not anti-scripture.


as for the verse in question about Jesus promising you wives in paradise,there is nothing you can say that convincingly prove to us that Jesus will not reward you with wives.and there is nothing we can say that will convince you.the verse is open to interpretation and we are definitely not wrong to say that the verse speaks of wives as reward especially after Jesus promised bread and wine in paradise making it a physical place and not the spiritual fantasy christians are brainwashed to imagine and hallucinate of.
i beg your pardon! Jesus is not the source of christianity.Paul was.if you accuse Jesus falsely that he is the source,then show us where Jesus called himself the source of christianity.you will never in this world succeed in doing that even if all the protestant churches and catholics join hands on that task.that should be a source of shame for you christians.you claim a founder that never recognized you.where did Jesus call you "christians"?who made you "christians"? Jesus or the devil?Jesus or Paul?

Jesus may have not promoted polygamy and even in the Quran we are told to marry one.but it is not a sin or an "evil" act to marry more than one.at least the bible serves as evidence to my words and my claim on that.simple.

manmacho:

you will need to go and see the doctor.

PAGAN 9JA:


yes you are right. not just a doctor, i need to go to the international medical association and W.H.O to alert them about this dangerous epidemic disease called[i] christianity [/i] and[i] islam[/i].

by plappville(f): 1:34am On Jan 05

did i tell u God condemn anyone for marrying multiple wives? I am saying God did not ordered them to practice it.

Apart from Muhammed that allah gave a revelation on his wives. In the bible God did not do it.

Some of the figures that did it sinned against God as a result.

Its a self tradition not divine order.

You should take ur time and see cases of polygamy in the bible and see the outcome of It.

Some examples of polygamy in the bible. The first person to be a polygamist was Lamech see (Genesis 4:19-24). We are told He lived six generations after Adam. He was a murderer. Only bad was told of him.

Abraham was also a polygamist (Genesis 16:1-5). Sarai, was unable to have children. She gave her slave, Hagar, to be Abraham’s wife. Hagar had Ishmael for Abraham. Sarah later had Isaac, Jealousy arose, this marriage was then full of troubles.

Another was Esau. the firstborn of Isaac and Rebekah. Esau married two Hittite women (Genesis 26:33,34). They caused much grief to Isaac and Rebekah.

Gideon was a great and brave leader. He had 70 sons from many wives (Judges 8:30,31). What kind of a father could he be to 70 sons? Not the kind that God wants us to be.

King Solomon had 700 wives, princesses, and 300 concubines. His wives turned his heart away from God (1 Kings 11:3). His downfall as a king was a result of his practice of polygamy.

There is nowhere in the Bible can we find polygamy doing any good.

All said about it shows it causes troubles. It has done much harm as u can see. So when Jesus came, He kept teaching the one man one wife practise.

by plappville(f): 1:34am On Jan 05

did i tell u God condemn anyone for marrying multiple wives? I am saying God did not ordered them to practice it.

Apart from Muhammed that allah gave a revelation on his wives. In the bible God did not do it.

Some of the figures that did it sinned against God as a result.

Its a self tradition not divine order.

You should take ur time and see cases of polygamy in the bible and see the outcome of It.

Some examples of polygamy in the bible. The first person to be a polygamist was Lamech see (Genesis 4:19-24). We are told He lived six generations after Adam. He was a murderer. Only bad was told of him.

Abraham was also a polygamist (Genesis 16:1-5). Sarai, was unable to have children. She gave her slave, Hagar, to be Abraham’s wife. Hagar had Ishmael for Abraham. Sarah later had Isaac, Jealousy arose, this marriage was then full of troubles.

Another was Esau. the firstborn of Isaac and Rebekah. Esau married two Hittite women (Genesis 26:33,34). They caused much grief to Isaac and Rebekah.

Gideon was a great and brave leader. He had 70 sons from many wives (Judges 8:30,31). What kind of a father could he be to 70 sons? Not the kind that God wants us to be.

King Solomon had 700 wives, princesses, and 300 concubines. His wives turned his heart away from God (1 Kings 11:3). His downfall as a king was a result of his practice of polygamy.

There is nowhere in the Bible can we find polygamy doing any good.

All said about it shows it causes troubles. It has done much harm as u can see. So when Jesus came, He kept teaching the one man one wife practise.

by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:59am On Nov 02, 2011

wetu:


Mar 10:30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.


Those who can see the truth let them see it. Those who want to be ignorant let them be ignorant.


Thanks for sharing this. A hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. And this is KJV. We notice that there is nothing like a hundred wives here.

Luke also captures this saying in the verse below:

"And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or [b]parents,[/] or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God's sake, who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come everlasting life" (Luke 18:29-30).

Check the plurals against the singular, the present time and the world to come. You will notice that wife is in the singular He did not say wives,

and that this will happen in this present time and if it is for the kingdom's sake he will be rewarded with everlasting life. There is no marriage or giving in marriage in heaven.

If you are to understand anything at all know that one man is only entitled to one wife and not many wives in this present time and that there is no marriage in heaven.

by LagosShia: 10:51pm On Jan 03
wow!

so christians will not get 4 or even the alleged 72 wives christian missinaries like to accuse muslims of!!!

they will get 100!!!!

also,Jesus promised them bread and wine:



PHYSICAL PARADISE IN THE BIBLE JUST AS THE ONE MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN AND NOT THE 'SPIRITUAL' FANTASY CHRISTIAN DREAM OF BASED ON THE TEACHINGS OF PAUL

how can humans made up of blood and flesh be transformed into 'spiritual beings'?

TREES AND FOOD AND PRECIOUS STONES IN EDEN ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE

Genesis 2:7-9
7 the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed.
9 And the LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Ezekiel 28:13
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared.


PHYSICAL BODIES IN PARADISE

Genesis 2:22
Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib[a] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.


WIFE IN PARADISE

Genesis 3:20
Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.


FLESH IN PARADISE AND EYES TO SEE GOD!


Job 19:26 -27
26 And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God;
27 I myself will see him with my own eyes—I, and not another. How my heart yearns within me!

26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.

DRINKING IN THE BIBLICAL PARADISE

Matthew 26:29
29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

EATING BREAD IN PARADISE

Luke 14:15
15 When one of those at the table with him heard this, he said to Jesus, “Blessed is the one who will eat at the feast in the kingdom of God.”

JESUS WAS TAKEN UP WITH PHYSICAL BODY

Luke 24:51
51 While he was blessing them, he left them and was taken up into heaven.


PAUL'S CONTRADICTION OF A PHYSICAL PARADISE BASED ON IMAGINATION

It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. (1 Corinthians 15:44)

I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. (1 Corinthians 15:50)


JESUS EATING AFTER HIS ALLEGED RESURRECTION (hint:its either Jesus did not die and resurrect or after resurrection and life returns people still have physical bodies.christians should make a choice!)

Luke 24:41-43
New International Version (NIV)

41 And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?” 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish, 43 and he took it and ate it in their presence.

vedaxcool: Mathew 19
28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an [size=18pt]hundredfold,[/size] and shall inherit everlasting life.

KJV


It seems Christians too are going to enjoy a 100 wives in Heaven

vedaxcool: Mathew 19
28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an [size=18pt]hundredfold,[/size] and shall inherit everlasting life.

KJV


It seems Christians too are going to enjoy a 100 wives in Heaven

PHYSICAL BODIES IN PARADISE

Genesis 2:22
Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib[a] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.


WIFE IN PARADISE

Genesis 3:20
Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.

Sweetnecta: ^^^^^^ The meek will inherit the earth, if only they are righteous. At the end they will die.

In the verses in OP, Jesus said in the REGENERATION. Then the 12 disciples will be judging the 12 nations/tribes of Israel.

And whoever left 1 wife will be rewarded with 100 [wives] fold.



Where did you come up with it being on earth before death and not on the day when the 12 nations/tribes of Israel will be judged? Or the judgment of them will be before they died while they have been dying since Jesus made this promise?


You seem not to believe Jesus or you lack comprehension or both or even worse.

Read about physical heaven spoken by Jesus and understood by his 12 disciples where bread, wine, etc and things of physical activities will happen. Unlike the lies of Paul that I am sure you will post to deny the Biblical Jesus and physical heaven.