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Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Beverlyjean(f): 3:01pm On Jan 09

What did u expect ...when reverend king still have his followers worshipping him

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by IamANigerianMan: 3:02pm On Jan 09

Righthussle:
pulpit bandits.

They may be different in their approach but they're the same thing.

If you're reading this, stop giving MIRACLE healers your hard earned money. MIRACLE healing is fake. Go to hospital when you are sick

Guys stop giving these pulpit bandits your hard earned money. Whoever or whatever made the universe will NEVER EVER EVER NEVER need your money for A N Y T H I N G whatsoever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TryP_z07aU?si=WBcQ5qrH-_BRr-Ic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nsIsS0Bg40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiHghDYvpBU?si=17mnIABTbD2FuPKF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpCgpR6dETY?si=94eK4k_HjBAe0udO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7Syrg-XlU?si=8qMxdMPmPpzQHI6j

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gPLShx98_I?si=kXy_eEg3qXfepFLO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSfEC-o2jQ4?si=RjuJdkkPhZKQ2h74

https://youtube.com/shorts/xJlRzNq72bc?si=f_YE9PquiQ6qbIsE

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM6uUX9rT/

https:///walegates/status/1018986364703051784?s=20

You are saying Rubish, those girls you see in BBC interview , do you think something like happened they would keep quiet for more than 20 years or after his death..

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by victorazy(m): 3:04pm On Jan 09

Beverlyjean:
What did u expect ...when reverend king still have his followers worshipping him

Madam fake pastors don't last. Where is the Rev. King?

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by dazzlingd(m): 3:12pm On Jan 09

victorazy:

Coconut head!

What do Israel feeds on?
Pilgrimage, religious tourism.

Every week, do you know how many people from round the world that troop in Lagos Nigeria for SOAN?
Do you know how much naira can be bought from diff currencies of the world?
Do you know the exposure the thing is giving Nigeria?
Do you know how much they generate through accommodation?
Do you know how much TB Joshua gave back to some countries as charity for what SCOAN is benefitting from them?

Come let me lecture you.
U no sabi anything.

I won’t say anything with you. It is obvious you didn’t watch the documentary.

I know people like you, you are afraid to open the cover to discover the truth. People like you prefer the bliss of “not knowing” than to discover the truth that alters your reality.

But ignorance is a shameful thing, if you don’t have data to watch the documentary, let me know, I can send you money to buy enough data to watch it.

Because it is very obvious you don’t even know what you are defending

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Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Image123(m): 3:14pm On Jan 09

Emman08:
The man is gone. He can't defend himself nor be pronounced innocent or guilty.

He is gone, but if the allegations are true, the victims are not gone. The church can be fined by law and pay some compensation. Also, the things happening in the church can be further investigated so that there is no repeat of such abuse.

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Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by dazzlingd(m): 3:14pm On Jan 09

Righthussle:
pulpit bandits.

They may be different in their approach but they're the same thing.

If you're reading this, stop giving MIRACLE healers your hard earned money. MIRACLE healing is fake. Go to hospital when you are sick

Guys stop giving these pulpit bandits your hard earned money. Whoever or whatever made the universe will NEVER EVER EVER NEVER need your money for A N Y T H I N G whatsoever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TryP_z07aU?si=WBcQ5qrH-_BRr-Ic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nsIsS0Bg40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiHghDYvpBU?si=17mnIABTbD2FuPKF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpCgpR6dETY?si=94eK4k_HjBAe0udO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7Syrg-XlU?si=8qMxdMPmPpzQHI6j

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gPLShx98_I?si=kXy_eEg3qXfepFLO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSfEC-o2jQ4?si=RjuJdkkPhZKQ2h74

https://youtube.com/shorts/xJlRzNq72bc?si=f_YE9PquiQ6qbIsE

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM6uUX9rT/

https:///walegates/status/1018986364703051784?s=20

The people you are talking to have removed their brains and packed dusts inside their skulls. You are wasting your time trying to convince them. Many are irredeemable.
Even if they catch these pastors on top of their wives, live and direct, they will still follow them.
Even if the pastors use them for rituals, they will even offer themselves willingly for the rituals

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Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Kobojunkie: 3:14pm On Jan 09

IamANigerianMan:

You are saying Rubish, those girls you see in BBC interview , do you think something like happened they would keep quiet for more than 20 years or after his death..

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Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Image123(m): 3:16pm On Jan 09

IamANigerianMan:

You are saying Rubish, those girls you see in BBC interview , do you think something like happened they would keep quiet for more than 20 years or after his death..

Yes they can but they should not. Some people can be very scared and traumatised, and feel free enough when their tormentor is away, locked up or dead. They may feel freer from repercussions for speaking out. Also, if TB was diabolical as many allege, they may be 'under his spell' or control while he was alive.

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Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Draggun(m): 3:17pm On Jan 09

Weak response, not convincing enough. I watched the documentary and I can swear he did everything he was accused of. If you haven't watched it, do so and you will see things for yourself.

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Kobojunkie: 3:18pm On Jan 09

wiseman2011:
Great one. The prophet JB Joshua has fight good of faith and his is at rest with his makers.

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Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by qtx(m): 3:26pm On Jan 09

anslemarinze52:

I don't believe in any fucking God or Jesus. None of them.
Ohh you self want to enter into my thinkings lol.

Oh okay. Now i understand where you are coming from. But let me inform you and keep in mind that one day you will be preaching openly and winning souls for God. It may not cross your mind now, but one day you will say someone online said it. On that day, you may not remember my moniker

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Righthussle: 3:27pm On Jan 09

dazzlingd:

The people you are talking to have removed their Brian and packed dusts inside their skulls. You are wasting your time trying to convince them. Many are irredeemable.
Even if they catch these pastors on top of their wives, life and direct, they will still follow them.
Even if the pastors use them for rituals, they will even offer themselves willingly for the rituals

It's pathetic.

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Emman08: 3:37pm On Jan 09

Image123:

He is gone, but if the allegations are true, the victims are not gone. The church can be fined by law and pay some compensation. Also, the things happening in the church can be further investigated so that there is no repeat of such abuse.

Absolutely. But to what extent can all these be done with the man being dead? Knowing... Nigeria

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by anslemarinze52(m): 3:37pm On Jan 09

qtx:

Oh okay. Now i understand where you are coming from. But let me inform you and keep in mind that one day you will be preaching openly and winning souls for God. It may not cross your mind now, but one day you will say someone online said it. On that day, you may not remember my moniker

Haha souls kor spirit ni. You sound so funny senior man. That's the issue, they brainwashed you too to think everyone attacking religion will definitely end up winning soul, they use Paul do example for u abi?. Lol
Herold for your so called bible win souls? Lol

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by fortunez1(m): 3:45pm On Jan 09

TruthsFM:

https://dailypost.ng/2024/01/09/tb-joshuas-church-counters-bbc-investigation-exposing-alleged-rape-of-members-by-prophet/

well replied

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Mummyfour(f): 3:47pm On Jan 09

Daystar7:

So everyone that goes to church for whatever reason get answers at that instant? You said a lot of he said, she said, reached a conclusion on the basis of she tell me say, he tell me say and then concluded with "I'm not passing judgement" You sound like a borderline retard. Why not get ur own personal relationship with God right and ask him to reveal the truth to you since u want him crucified so bad u wish whatever is said of him is true to satisfy ur hatred.

how did you feel when you called me a borderline retard? A high obviously?. You untrained fellows cannot make simple statements without insults haba!.
It is my opinion and I stand by what I wrote here. State your own opinion and stick to it. I found out that people that throw insults at every given time especially when things are not going their way are usually bullies
You guys just talk any how like you people have monopoly of grammar or insults.

My late mother didn't tell me hear say. And if can't respect your mother even if she is alive, I respect mine even in death and I believe her 100%. If you guys can't read people's comments and not foam in the mouth,then stay off nairaland

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Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Kobojunkie: 3:48pm On Jan 09

fortunez1:
well replied

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Martinez39s(m): 4:03pm On Jan 09

Fiscus105:
Anybody read that documentry and believe it, hook line and sinker, just know something is wrong with you and ur brain needs to be checked.

U just interviewed a random people with no single evident to back it up.

Someone claiming he was one of disciples yet, he didn't show any proof to back it up. All the current and former disciples, I think we know them and their tie with TB Joshua.

Your foolishness doesn't surprise me one bit. Your skull must be empty for you to claim that random persons were interviewed. grin

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Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Laurene: 4:07pm On Jan 09

omat20:
I will advice Mrs. Evelyn to take the matter to court so we know who is telling the truth. If BBC cannot produce proof of the allegations, then they are done for.

Which court? Naija or Hague?
Can't you see even the daughter in the video narrating?

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Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by victorazy(m): 4:11pm On Jan 09

dazzlingd:

I won’t say anything with you. It is obvious you didn’t watch the documentary.

I know people like you, you are afraid to open the cover to discover the truth. People like you prefer the bliss of “not knowing” than to discover the truth that alters your reality.

But ignorance is a shameful thing, if you don’t have data to watch the documentary, let me know, I can send you money to buy enough data to watch it.

Because it is very obvious you don’t even know what you are defending

You did not make any point, or should I say the context is beyond your comprehension.

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by victorazy(m): 4:18pm On Jan 09

Martinez39s:
Your foolishness doesn't surprise me one bit. Your skull must be empty for you to claim that random person were interviewed.

He said the fact.
Anybody that believed BBC is sick in head.

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Martinez39s(m): 4:48pm On Jan 09

victorazy:

He said the fact.
Anybody that believed BBC is sick in head.

Were random people interviewed? Yes or no?

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by dazzlingd(m): 4:49pm On Jan 09

victorazy:

He said the fact.
Anybody that believed BBC is sick in head.

The people interviewed, were they random?

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Yungdragon: 5:14pm On Jan 09

TruthsFM:

https://dailypost.ng/2024/01/09/tb-joshuas-church-counters-bbc-investigation-exposing-alleged-rape-of-members-by-prophet/

My issue with this is that why would the whites do a BBC do a documentary, where did they get there facts , who talked to them and who did they interview? Just put out a documentary like that
They should be sued

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by wirinet(m): 5:18pm On Jan 09

Kobojunkie:
Kept quiet ke? Before you post anything else.... check the following attempts made to reveal the man dating as far back as 2009 here in Nairaland alone.

https://www.nairaland.com/270874/t.b-joshuas-miracle-fake-unverifiable#3849234
https://www.nairaland.com/394395/tb-joshua-country/3#5536846
https://www.nairaland.com/5276232/pst-biodun-bisola-evil-motivated#79852869
https://www.nairaland.com/3500873/man-tb-joshua#51625150
https://www.nairaland.com/767191/tb-joshuas-secret-exposed-ex-muslim/5#45986110
https://www.nairaland.com/858513/ashawos-atempt-seduce-tb-joshua#10080579
https://www.nairaland.com/819463/must-watch-tb-joshuas-evil#9710765
https://www.nairaland.com/792409/tb-joshuas-critics-pharisee-chronicle#9443131
https://www.nairaland.com/779122/bisola-johnson-red-light-district#9314025
https://www.nairaland.com/768372/paid-lie-against-pastor-t#9268027

And you think sheep can't think for itself? A sheep can only follow its shepherd to the slaughter House, bleating gleefully while being slaughtered.

No matter the evidence, even if you show live video of TB Joshua raping a 12 year old girl, they will rush to his defense with their lives. We have seen this with Jim Jones, we have seen this with David Koresh, we have even seen this with our own reverend King, whose church is still going strong despite him being on death Row.

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Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by Kobojunkie: 5:19pm On Jan 09

Yungdragon:
■ My issue with this is that why would the whites do a BBC do a documentary, where did they get there facts , who talked to them and who did they interview? Just put out a documentary like that
They should be sued

You no even watch the documentary yet you feel say you fit make sense? undecided

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by wirinet(m): 5:25pm On Jan 09

Yungdragon:

My issue with this is that why would the whites do a BBC do a documentary, where did they get there facts , who talked to them and who did they interview? Just put out a documentary like that
They should be sued

These are allegations that have been swirling around the media for over a decade. BBC is the best organisation to investigate and carry such a story, as many British nationals are affected. Local media houses and their journalists would have their safety jeopardised if they dare attack someone as rich and worshiped as TB Joshua. You can feel the anger of some of his fanatics here.

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Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by LordReed(m): 5:36pm On Jan 09

TruthsFM:

https://dailypost.ng/2024/01/09/tb-joshuas-church-counters-bbc-investigation-exposing-alleged-rape-of-members-by-prophet/

All this big grammar doesn't address any of the substantive allegations leveled against the late TB Joshua. For instance it was alleged that he refused to go to the site of the fallen guest house, very easy to show he did by linking to photos of him on site. IMO it would be better for SCOAN to not address it since the allegations are against a dead man who is not here to answer for himself rather than spewing thinly veiled insults.

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by mikeapollo: 5:52pm On Jan 09

Thundafireseun:
I remembered clearly in 2014 when synagogue collapsed…

The church came out and announced that only 100 people were killed… South African government then came out and countered that claim saying that South Africans alone that were killed were more than 84 people…talk more about other countries including Nigerians

Immediately TB Joshua quickly increased the death rate to about 150 people…

If the church wasn’t covering up something why did they lie in the first instance??

TB Joshua was banned from performing his magical tricks ever in SA until he died

Meanwhile Righteousness2 what do you have to say about this??

You seem to be a shallow thinker and a liar! SCOAN did not hide or reduce the number of people that died. The 100 was the number of those that were conformed to be dead at a time or date.
When disasters happen, the number of casualty is announced as at a particular time, and then updated periodically.
That is why different newspapers can even give different figures, until the final figure is confirmed. It happens at Mecca when people die in Hajj; it happens when people die at stadiums or when there is plane crash. Each organization or newspaper announces what has been confirmed at a time, until the final figure is finally agreed on.

SCOAN has held revival and outreaches in SA after the collapse of the building? Stop talking in ignorance; you liar!

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by mikeapollo: 5:55pm On Jan 09

ReacherSaidNoth:
A very poor defense. How can you say the accusers are unknown to the church when there's literally video evidence of their time there?

They said some of the accusers are not known to the church.

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by mikeapollo: 6:04pm On Jan 09

wirinet:

These allegations are not new. In fact these allegations have been in the media for close to 10 years. Paul Agomoh who was his number 2 man and started the ministry with him made these allegations when the fell out about 8 years ago. Bisola also came out to speak publicly about how she was raped and how T.B. Joshua raped three little sisters along with other girls in 2016 or thereabout, TB Joshua sheep came for her head then. So it's a surprise that his sheep are behaving as if they just heard these allegations.

Sheep will always be sheep.

Agomoh did not start any ministry with TB Joshua.! Stop talking about things that you don't know.

Agomoh was washing plates in the canteen (as a worker in the church canten) before TB Joshua had pity on him and uplifted him and asked him to go to Ghana branch as pastor
Agomoh was mislead by a woman because he wanted to hijack the Ghana branch.

After that episode, many of the Wisemen have been fully established after TB Joshua blessed and granted them leave to establish their own ministry!

Re: SCOAN: TB Joshua’s Church Counters BBC Investigation by victorazy(m): 6:12pm On Jan 09

Martinez39s:
Were random people interviewed? Yes or no?

What are you ppl saying, so you can't schedule such interview?
Who brought camera?
Did you know what happened behind the scene?
Do you know the ppl that was interviewed?

Why are you guys so gullible?

Pray men of underworld no remember you any day.

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