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Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 2:26pm On Mar 01
Antiislaam:
∆ Is like you don't get my point
What point would that be? Jesus Christ disassociated Himself from religious leaders and all of their teachings. So what point is there to be had by trying to associate with Him with the same? undecided
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 2:30pm On Mar 01
Expanse2020:
∆ 24elders that known one can account for in the bible you are defending with your own opinion.
You can said anything about there appear. Their appointment with God. Thier rank. Abeggiii
so the way you choose to see it (opinions mind you) is that :
(a) no one else in Scripture mentioned the 24 elders
(b) John probably made it all up

Aren't those equally defences you offer from your major point of ignorance of what is contained in Scripture? undecided
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 2:53pm On Mar 01
Kobojunkie:
so the way you choose to see it (opinions mind you) is that :
(a) no one else in Scripture mentioned the 24 elders
(b) John probably made it all up

Aren't those equally defences you offer from your major point of ignorance of what is contained in Scripture? undecided
So only John know about the 24 elders not even Jesus or Moses can affirm that...
Chaiii
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 2:56pm On Mar 01
Expanse2020:
■ So only John know about the 24 elders not even Jesus or Moses can affirm that...
Chaiii
How exactly did you come to confirm that only John knew of the 24 elders he mentioned? Did you read through the entirety of Scripture for this or like before you assume that simple opening your trap in ignorance is all it takes to answer these things? undecided
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 3:29pm On Mar 01
Kobojunkie:
How exactly did you come to confirm that only John knew of the 24 elders he mentioned? Did you read through the entirety of Scripture for this or like before you assume that simple opening your trap in ignorance is all it takes to answer these things? undecided
One of people said it that its only John that know about the 24elders
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 3:31pm On Mar 01
Expanse2020:
■ One of people said it that its only John that know about the 24elders
So because an anonymous source claimed that only John knew of the 24, you took it on yourself to broadcast it as a fact? Are you for real? undecided
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 3:34pm On Mar 01
Kobojunkie:
So because an anonymous source claimed that only John knew of the 24, you took it on yourself to broadcast it as a fact? Are you for real? undecided
Ok how many people claimed they know about the 24elders in the bible....except John no others prophet said anything about them including Jesus
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 3:40pm On Mar 01
Expanse2020:
■ Ok how many people claimed they know about the 24elders in the bible....except John no others prophet said anything about them including Jesus
You have to open your brain and read the book to find the answer you seek. One thing I know for a fact is you have never in fact done so before now. So any more attempts to speak more on this from a point of ignorance would be just more of the same from you.. undecided
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 3:44pm On Mar 01
Kobojunkie:
You have to open your brain and read the book to find the answer you seek. One thing I know for a fact is you have never in fact done so before now. So any more attempts to speak more on this from a point of ignorance would be just more of the same from you.. undecided
I want to hear from you that why I asked you..I want to you to give me a better verdict than the opinion you are Making from your head
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 3:49pm On Mar 01
Expanse2020:
■ I want to hear from you that why I asked you..I want to you to give me a better verdict than the opinion you are Making from your head
I do not have a second witness given that I have yet to do research into the claim made by John. So all I have is an opinion to offer. If you have a more informed opinion then bring it. undecided
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Iamanoited: 3:50pm On Mar 01
THEY'RE THE 24 RIGHTEOUS SPIRITS EDUCATION, EXPERIENCE AND DECISION MAKING GOING ON.
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Iamanoited: 3:52pm On Mar 01
THEY'RE THE 24 RIGHTEOUS SPIRITS EDUCATION, EXPERIENCE AND DECISION MAKING GOING ON.

Orisa37
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by MightySparrow: 3:54pm On Mar 01
Antichristian.

Antichristian!!

Antichristian!!?

Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 4:28pm On Mar 01
Kobojunkie:
I do not have a second witness given that I have yet to do research into the claim made by John. So all I have is an opinion to offer. If you have a more informed opinion then bring it. undecided
Your opinion is not welcoming in the scripture joor shift abeggiii 🤣
You should look for concrete evidence to backup your claim
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 5:15pm On Mar 01
Expanse2020:
■ Your opinion is not welcoming in the scripture joor shift abeggiii 🤣
You should look for concrete evidence to backup your claim
Scripture is not about that which is welcoming but rather about realizing that which is of God and of His Truth. undecided

As I explained, I assume the 24 elders to have been the Prophets of Old -- they came into the world before Jesus Christ-- all of whom came with mandates from God Himself--- they were of Heaven ---, Holy(dressed in White), and Righteous men(wore crowns) who also spoke of the coming of the New agreement which they are all realized was the end goal to come(they worshipped the Lamb of God). undecided

If you have concrete evidence to disprove my claim, go for it. Otherwise, stay away from topics you are unwilling to do some homework on.
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 5:28pm On Mar 01
Kobojunkie:
Scripture is not about that which is welcoming but rather about realizing that which is of God and of His Truth. undecided

As I explained, I assume the 24 elders to have been the Prophets of Old -- they came into the world before Jesus Christ-- all of whom came with mandates from God Himself--- they were of Heaven ---, Holy(dressed in White), and Righteous men(wore crowns) who also spoke of the coming of the New agreement which they are all realized was the end goal to come(they worshipped the Lamb of God). undecided

If you have concrete evidence to disprove my claim, go for it. Otherwise, stay away from topics you are unwilling to do some homework on.
You don't assume in what you don't know..you just bring your ideology into scripture you don't know about making claimed your assumption should be th fact undecided
who have seen them to know there attribute because someone seeing them in dream baa
Ala magọ ooo
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 5:32pm On Mar 01
Expanse2020:
■ You don't assume in what you don't know..you just bring your ideology into scripture you don't know about making claimed your assumption should be th fact undecided
who have seen them to know there attribute because someone seeing them in dream baa
Ala magọ ooo
Stop saying things you don't know or understand for Pete's sake! lipsrsealed

Right there in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ urged His followers to use the understanding they have in order to then have more understanding given to them by the Father - Mathew 13 vs 10 - 17 & Mark 4 vs 22 - 28 & Matthew 25 vs 29 ..... My current understanding is what I have to use. Again, if you have evidence to refute the claims made, bring it on, or stay your lane. undecided
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 5:35pm On Mar 01
Kobojunkie:
Stop saying things you don't know or understand for Pete's sake! lipsrsealed

Right there in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ urged His followers to use the understanding they have in order to then have more understanding given to them by the Father - Mathew 13 vs 10 - 17 & Mark 4 vs 22 - 28 & Matthew 25 vs 29 ..... My current understanding is what I have to use. Again, if you have evidence to refute the claims made, bring it on, or stay your lane. undecided
Ehen to you your own understanding to understand what the father said ....I see where the problems lies

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Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 5:40pm On Mar 01
Expanse2020:
■ Ehen to you your own understanding to understand what the father said ....I see where the problems lies
Na your own understanding I go come use? Abeg, Stop yammering, please! lipsrsealed
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by advocatejare(m): 8:22pm On Mar 01
Expanse2020:


How many did you want..He his the King of kings
Stop lying. There is no where in the Quran where Allah is referred to as king not to talk of King of Kings !


"He is Allah (God), besides Whom there is no god; the King…" (Quran 59:23)

"So exalted be Allah (God), the True King!" (Quran 20:114)

"…the King of humanity, the God of humanity." (Quran 114:2)

"Lo! the righteous will dwell among gardens and rivers, in the seat of honor with a Mighty King." (Quran 54:54-55)
Which English translation is this? You’re just trying to insert that is not there as being there. The word you translated as King is Malik, if Malik means King then Al-Fatiha vs 4 should read “King of the Day of Recompense.” but all the standard English translation never used king and since you yourself knew that it doesn’t make sense, you decided to leave surah 1:4 out of your fabrication of list of verses you gave to erroneously named Allah a king
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 8:32pm On Mar 01
advocatejare:

Stop lying. There is no where in the Quran where Allah is referred to as king not to talk of King of Kings !


Which English translation is this? You’re just trying to insert that is not there as being there. The word you translated as King is Malik, if Malik means King then Al-Fatiha vs 4 should read “King of the Day of Recompense.” but all the standard English translation never
used king and since you yourself knew that it doesn’t make sense, you decided to leave surah 1:4 out of your fabrication of list of verses you gave to erroneously named Allah a king
Man Arabic language a single words can be translated to three to four word in English the Arabic language is so reach and broad..so stop arguing
King can be translated to ruler / just/dominion /judge depending on how it's used so stop spew nonsense and check the verses I showed you...
Show me in the bible where Jesus said, I am the God, worship me

And if you really think with this ayat you put here ..you should tell us who is the King of the day of recompense..
Who is the ruler of the day
Who is the Dominion of the day
Who is the judge of the day
Nobody except Allah the King of kings, Lord of lords
King then Al-Fatiha vs 4 should read “King of the Day of Recompense.”
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by advocatejare(m): 8:40pm On Mar 01
Expanse2020:

Man Arabic language a single words can be translated to three to four word in English the Arabic language is so reach and broad..so stop arguing
King can be translated to ruler / just/dominion /judge depending on how it's used so stop spew nonsense and check the verses I showed you...
Show me in the bible where Jesus said, I am the God, worship me
You’re the one spewing nonsense here,
Tel me the name of the English translation of the Quran that you used, it must have been from fabricators like you.

Yusuf Ali, Sahih International and other standard English translation didn’t use King!
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Antiislaam(m): 10:29pm On Mar 01
Expanse2020:


The houris her the beautiful females specially made for the righteous men's who gain the paradise and our wife or wives will be there senior in paradise.. thier description was so beautiful that cant imagine beyond ...your brain can't carry it😂😂😂🫣🫣
Note it's what we will see after the here- after




In a nutshell, allah's Paradise is a brothel place where you'll be having and acting porn right?

No wonder you wan die on top Muhammad and his idol allah
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Antiislaam(m): 10:41pm On Mar 01
Expanse2020:

Jesus perform ablution in the bible and told peter that how to do it too

You mean the bible written by your imamu has a place where his own Jesus perform ablution by washing his dirty mouth, hands, legs before banging his head on the ground


Expanse2020:

He prayed while face down like us (be in sujud with our maker)


So at this your age you cannot differentiate between face down and continuous banging of head on the ground bah?

How come you escape from primary 6


Expanse2020:

He didn't sing, dance, belling, drumming where did you people got all those things from self ...from the Pagan wright


Jesus Christ sings in the Bible (Matthew 26:30 and Mark 14:26)

Don't allow your Alfa, imamu brainwashed you henceforth

If singing and drumming is a pagan act, it means you're also practicing paganism in Islam by drumming what you called BANDIRI (Samba) when singing


Expanse2020:

Yahweh, Baal, Yeezus the Zeus ....those cult that the Jewish had even abolished

allah is baal the idol Muhammad inherited from his pagan father Abdullahi
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Antiislaam(m): 10:52pm On Mar 01
AntiChristian:


After your good news on the 24 elders?


The good news is that the 24 elders are there to worship God. Will you tell this house the good news on how the brothel (aljanah) will look like with your houris
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Antiislaam(m): 10:59pm On Mar 01
Kobojunkie:
What point would that be? Jesus Christ disassociated Himself from religious leaders and all of their teachings. So what point is there to be had by trying to associate with Him with the same? undecided

Did I said Jesus Christ associate himself with any religion or preach religion we should follow? Stop wasting my precious time here if you find it difficult comprehending my statement

I'm here to face anyone following Muhammad, islam and the idol called allah and that is why I am Antiislaam
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 11:03pm On Mar 01
Antiislaam:
Did I said Jesus Christ associate himself with any religion or preach religion we should follow? Stop wasting my precious time here if you find it difficult comprehending my statement I'm here to face anyone following Muhammad, islam and the idol called allah and that is why I am Antiislaam
Christianity is a religion and you attempted to associate Jesus Christ with it. Deny it? undecided
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Antiislaam(m): 11:29pm On Mar 01
Kobojunkie:
Christianity is a religion and you attempted to associate Jesus Christ with it. Deny it? undecided

Go and suck your momma's breast maybe you'll sleep. If you don't get it, 4get it then

Antiislaam:


Did you understand what Christian is all about sha?

Is like asking is Jesus Christ a Christian?


Antiislaam:


Jesus Christ is a Christian according to your imamu when he himself is Christ abi?

Guy please stop wasting my precious time here, I don't deal with people like you
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 11:34pm On Mar 01
Antiislaam:
Go and suck your momma's breast maybe you'll sleep. If you don't get it, 4get it then Guy please stop wasting my precious time here, I don't deal with people like you

Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Antiislaam(m): 11:39pm On Mar 01
Kobojunkie:

Just dey laugh at your gullible and stupidity

So point out to where I associate Jesus Christ with Christianity

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