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Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by Gbawe: 6:05pm On Nov 14, 2011 |
aribisala0: Wow!!! I doff my hat !!!! Lately , your posts have marked you out as very sound, rather well-exposed and liberally sophisticated . More grease to your elbow. |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by BCuZiMBlaCk(m): 6:39pm On Nov 14, 2011 |
Kobojunkie: manny4life: |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by redsun(m): 7:17pm On Nov 14, 2011 |
This crooked chimp is still on d loose and worst of all,he still attend functions where suppose civil and rational citizens gathers. Which way nigerians? Crooked or civil? |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by aribisala0(m): 7:24pm On Nov 14, 2011 |
Gbawe:mr bawi i thought i told you to avoid cannabis? |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by Gbawe: 7:29pm On Nov 14, 2011 |
aribisala0: What is wrong with 'ganja'? Abeg forget that una Nigerian indoctrination. A lot more things worse in life than a herbal item available naturally and even prescribed medicinally. |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by redsun(m): 7:35pm On Nov 14, 2011 |
The crook is just capitilizing on the tension in d country aswell his nemesis of being one step away from kirikiri to weep up tribal sentiment knowing fully well that so many tribal mugus will fall for it. Tinubu is a criminal,his opinions belong to d underworld,jailyard. |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by ikeyman00(m): 9:11pm On Nov 14, 2011 |
@@@@@@@ talk is cheap! that looter should lead by example; he should build a ten storey school in s-west that is afforded to common man he should as well invest in wolrd class hospitals so our top doctors in overseas can come back to work etc then ikeyman knows he is for real or else he will go down like a loser he is em Bill gates what do u make of this african looter called Tinubu |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by ektbear: 9:16pm On Nov 14, 2011 |
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Who @@@@@@ told you @@@@@ that talk is cheap? @@@ |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by ikeyman00(m): 9:25pm On Nov 14, 2011 |
^^^ ur sugar daddy man |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by ektbear: 9:48pm On Nov 14, 2011 |
@@@@@@@@@ All @@@@@@ I can @@ suggest is @@ that you @@ don't believe everything you hear. @ |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by AjCityOne: 3:16am On Nov 15, 2011 |
If anyone here is calling regional unity as an advocate for tribal interest then they really need to have their head checked put. This country is been moving backward much faster by this president than the previous administration and no one seem to care about the way PDP is driving out beloved country to the ground. Tinubu is a visionary man and a strong charismatic leader who can stand up to the criminal entity called PDP and what you should be hoping for in your South East is another Tinubu in your region. Let him be the Yoruba criminal all he wants. He;s our leader and we love him dearly. Now go get your own leader because 2015 is just around the corner. |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by HighChief4(m): 3:36am On Nov 15, 2011 |
^^^Pls can you list categorically how Tinubu is different from the PDP guys |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by success4(m): 5:25am On Nov 15, 2011 |
High_Chief: Same ni!!! |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by hercules07: 5:54am On Nov 15, 2011 |
He gave us Fashola, OBJ gave us Yar Adua and GEJ. |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by Kobojunkie: 5:57am On Nov 15, 2011 |
hercules07: If you want to credit him with Fashola, then why did he have to sit on the state for 8 wasted years before allowing Fashola take over? And Please do not give me the crappy reason that he was PREPARING THE WAY. There is massive evidence that that NEVER WAS THE CASE . . . About 80% of Tinubu's plans were apparently dropped by the Fashola Administration -- from proposed road projects etc. So, please answer us with something more TANGIBLE that the silly AGBERO-mouthed rationals we have read of on this issue. |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by hercules07: 6:01am On Nov 15, 2011 |
@Kobo Me I tire o, someone asked a question, I answered, why all these epistles now? Can you provide a verifiable link for Fashola dropping 80% of Tinubu's projects? BRT and Lekki Express way were some of Tinubu's work that Fashola finished. I hope you know that there was no way in hell that Fashola was going to win the Lagos elections in 1999 and 2003, Tinubu brought him to government where he learned the art of governance. |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by Kobojunkie: 6:04am On Nov 15, 2011 |
That is an answer to the question asked? Are you joking? In a Democracy you suggest that Tinubu IMPOSED his own candidate on us, and somehow that makes him any different from Obasanjo who is accused of IMPOSING Yar adua on the people? Do you critically process ideas that jump into your mind, before you spew em? |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by kjhova(m): 11:36am On Nov 15, 2011 |
Kobojunkie, it's OK if you hate Tinubu. It really makes no difference to me. However, the idea of integration (especially) of congruent states in terms of infrastructure, systems, bureaucracy etc is sure a bright one from the man. It is the way of common sense as it creates the opportunity to cut off many inefficiencies and duplication. In your response to my post, you sounded like it is sinister to this nation for ethnically similar states to co-operate in any form. On the contrary, it could be indeed healthy for Nigeria if well managed. There is gain in diversity. As for your suggestion that Fashola jettisoned most of Tinubu's projects, that is far from the truth. The main ventures we now associated with Fashola; BRT, LAGBUS, RRT, Lekki FTZ etc were all hatched since 1999. There was also the 4th mainland bridge, Lagos International Airport etc that were also planned which the Fashola government may have left for the future. Someone else will attend to these hopefully and will be associated with them. I am indifferent about Tinubu, but I think working to help Fashola take over from him and working hard to entrench a viable opposition to the ruling party are worthy contributions to our democracy that I'd like some other regional bigwigs to emulate. Regards. |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by baslone: 11:52am On Nov 15, 2011 |
AjCityOne: You people should stop blaming PDP for all these disaster after all we voted for GEJ not PDP!!!!! |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by Kobojunkie: 12:03pm On Nov 15, 2011 |
kj_hova: I know it is probably FOREIGN to you to hold a person RESPONSIBLE for HIS/HER OWN ACTIONS /RECORD, so I will let you in on how life ought to work. Outside of your mind, persons like Tinubu, are to blame for the appalling public records they built for themselves. On Regional Integration, I ask you why wisdom tells you that when you want to build, you build from the ground up, not start in the air and expect the building root itself afterwards. Tinubu, and all other leaders in his group, before the coming of Fashola to the scene, and even after never exhibited any traits different from those of the other illiterates we have had in power prior. So, yeah, if he had started this on state level, at least it would have been easier to picture success on a regional level. We have heard these promises before you were probably born -- before your parents even thought of you and we know what resulted. It is stupid to repeat the mistakes of the past, believing it will not play out exactly the same way as it did prior. kj_hova: Yes, it is STUPID for states, created with no ethnicity in mind, to decide that development has to be along ethnic lines. Lagos is not a 100% yoruba state anymore -- more than half of it's population are not Yorubas, so it will be stupid for the State Governor to decide that ethnicity should be made basis for development. Regional development should include States like Delta, Edo, etc which comprise majorly of non yorubas and that is what we ought to be listening to now. BRT, LAGBUS, RRT, Lekki FTZ, even the fourth mainland bridge were not Tinubu's plans. If you lived in Lagos PRIOR to the Tinubu/Fashola craze, you would have known this. Even Fashola himself tells you of where the plans original came from. Those ideas DID NOT START WITH the Tinubu Administration. Lagos Transportation service(I don't know how old you were in the 80's) were realities even back then. The rail system was almost made a reality even then too. So STOP LYING THAT THEY WERE HATCHED In 1999. ROFLMAO!!! Go read up the plans to learn truth from fiction. PS: Do not turn this into another useless 'Fashola is god' thread. Learn to focus on the issues at hand, |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by kjhova(m): 2:07pm On Nov 15, 2011 |
Kobo mate, the thread still remains a rational discuss on Tinubu's suggestion for Integration of ACN controlled or South-West states. In your recent post on my comment, I feel you crossed the lines of civilities in taking strokes at my likely age or reason. In any case, let me assure you that my view point is not hinged on Tinubu or anyone. I am not Yoruba and its my dream that one day the government system, transport, communications, bureaucracy, education and marketing boards, etc of the Niger-Delta will aggregate to foster sustainable growth in that area. Ditto for the east, west, "core" north and every other area that can be fashioned out of this land mass. I am not afraid of people associating on the basis of their common ethnicity or heritage. That some folks have used such for devilish purpose in the past does not remove the advantages of a commonwealth. I believe you are aware of how proud the Basque, Madridistas or Catalans are of their identities in Spain. You must also note the existence of the Bank of Scotland with all other ethnic institutions existing in that territory. It has yet to threaten the existence of the United Kingdom. My visions are along such lines. Hoping the clarification is spot on. |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by Kobojunkie: 2:22pm On Nov 15, 2011 |
kj_hova:No I did not because the statements you made were not those of one who actually lived back during the times when the plans were innitially made, however you felt bold enough to declare it was all conceived in 1999, when it really wasn't. kj_hova:I really do not care what you claim your view point is hinged on. What I know to do is argue against or for the views you present. I am a Nigerian and it is my dream that one day, that country will rid itself of the many focuses on what divides us. A supposed leader is here suggesting we make concrete the ethnic divide in the country, in the name of development, development which he, and many others like him, denied that whole region, at the state level, for decades. I am against it, and there are so many reasons why. The most important of which are his record as a leader in one of the states in said region, and the fact that we have had the same song sung to us in the past, only for us all to be fleeced at the end of the day. kj_hova:I am not afraid of people associating on the basis of their common ethnicity, but I draw the line when it comes to Government doing just that. Most of our states are so integrated together that it would be considered discrimination for any governor to choose one ethnicity over another. We have a constitution that requires Government NOT respect one ethnic group over the other, and I would do all I can to make sure it stays that way. We have seen and continue to see what ethnic divide does to us as a nation. We don't need more of it. kj_hova:Please stop trying to make connections where there is none. We are a democracy and our constitution mandates that NO ETHNIC GROUP be considered above others. We have 250 of them. I would rather our political leaders learn to stay away from ethnic politics and focus on government. Granted Tinubu is not an elected leaders, so, I am left with telling him to shut up already since we have seen what he is made of and he has nothing to offer as a leader. ** 7 am in the morning, haven't had my coffee yet so if you do not understand any line,, let me know. |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by Gbawe: 2:26pm On Nov 15, 2011 |
kj_hova link=topic=802829.msg9560701#msg9560701 date=1321353[b: Well said. These days, many speak too emotionally . If they dislike the messenger, they automatically gun down his message. There is absolutely nothing wrong in regional cooperation that boosts joint economic activities, infrastructural development, mutual assistance, commerce and interdependence. The idea of regional blocs become even more valid taking into accounts the reality on the ground i.e a virtually useless FG that is more a hindrance than anything else. |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by aribisala0(m): 2:29pm On Nov 15, 2011 |
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity. |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by Gbawe: 2:47pm On Nov 15, 2011 |
redsun: You can dislike Tinubu and still view his utterances objectively. The talks of Regional integration had been ongoing before the trial of Tinubu began and SW Governors had indeed met formally to discuss this concept. Are those Governors "whipping up tribal sentiments" as well? Even if making it so is now very common these days , everything does not revolve around Tinubu and , as obvious below, other very bright individuals also subscribe to this idea enthusiastically because it makes sense - especially considering the near moribund FG http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/s-west-governors-meet-on-integration/94731/ S’West Governors Meet on Integration |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by Gbawe: 3:08pm On Nov 15, 2011 |
I think anyone willing to be objective will concede that there is nothing wrong with this idea while we have a federal Government, year in year out, indifferent to the plight and misery of Nigerians. The concept South West integration is beyond Tinubu. It is a solution arrived at by many intelligent men fed up with a repressive Federal Government. http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/columnist/sunday/femi-orebe/24509-in-pursuit-of-regional%C2%A0integration-in-nigeria.html In pursuit of regional integration in Nigeria |
Re: Southwest’s Commitment To Regional Integration - Tinubu by kjhova(m): 3:16pm On Nov 15, 2011 |
Lastly Kobo, do your arguments some honor and be civil. Your tone could be more appropriate. As a reminder, I don't think Tinubu clamored for a coming together of Yoruba people. The co-operation he suggested was between South-West states. I couldn't pick anywhere in his speech where he suggested the ostracizing of non indigenes of such states. Like I said, I am not Yoruba and I live and work in Lagos. All of my family are scattered across the Yoruba states. I wouldn't wish eviction on myself?! Tinubu may be vile as you claim, that has nothing to do with the sensible option of regional integration of congruous states. If you are so older than I, then maybe it was good I didn't grow up in your era. It's so obvious that today's Nigerians are more germane and understanding of each other than the peoples of our earlier times. I rest my case as beyond this point I probably will never appeal to you. Arivedechi. |
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