Aemmyjah:



There are many of God's people that did not benefit from what they wanted but God still loved them.
David prayed that the child he had from adultery should not die. He died
Moses prayed 3 Times that he entered the promised land. He did not
Paul prayed that his thorn in the flesh be removed. It did not
Jesus prayed that the cup be removed from him. It wasn't


Would you tell me that all the firstborn of Egypt that were struck in the last plague, some were not at infant level?

FxMasterz:


The question is not for me because I told you that there's a clear difference between individual judgement and general judgement. Those infants who died in Sodom and Gomorrah for example could still find their ways to paradise. They were just victims of God's judgement on a nation, not that they were guilty of any individual wrong doing.

Aemmyjah:



Beautiful
Honestly, it's beautiful comment
Will they find their way without learning and putting faith in God?

Obrigardo:
I cant wrap my head around this.
I don't believe this is Christianity. How can a Christian think this way?

What do you think?

FxMasterz:


You know infants can't learn to the point of understanding or putting faith in God. It would be God's justice to have them excused.

Aemmyjah:


Only infants
Many who did bad only did it out of ignorance

Remember Jonah
He wanted God to destroy the Ninevites even after seeing them repent
God said though they were wicked, they were a great city THAT DID NOT KNOW LEFT FROM RIGHT

FxMasterz:


From what Paul said in Romans 1 regarding God's natural laws written in our hearts, it is clear that God would judge everyone from that 'Law' even if they're never heard about Gpd before in their lives.

So, while infants may be generally excused, adults who lived well in accordance the 'natural law's would not be individually condemned. They were all just victims of God's general judgement on the nation.

Aemmyjah:


What is natural law?
Does natural law tell you to exercise faith in God's son, Jesus Christ?

FxMasterz:


Natural law is the human conscience. It does tell you about faith in Christ but if you lived ever before Christ came to the world, or you lived in a disadvantaged place where you were unable to hear about Christ and God's gift of salvation, you would be judged by that natural law, according to the scriptures.

Aemmyjah:



Someone born and raised in Afghan or Somalia and never read or seen a Bible but he's conscientious. How will his conscience tell him God has a son that he must put faith in?

FxMasterz:


According to the scriptures, he wouldn't be just by the standard of knowing whether God has a Son he must put faith in or not. Rather, he'll be judged by the actions he carried out in relation to his conscience. If he did something his conscience restricted him from, he'll be guilty. If he avoided that thing for conscience sake, he'll be justified. That's the position of scripture.

Romans 2:12-16

"For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel"

1 John 3:21
"Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God."

Aemmyjah:


God's judgment has both good and bad
Salvation and destruction
One must exercise faith in God and Christ to be saved

Will God bypass that requirement?

FxMasterz:


He'll bypass that requirement only for those who never had the opportunity to hear about Christ. He wouldn't bypass that requirement for those who rejected the opportunity to hear about Christ, and those who heard about Christ but still rejected Christ.

Aemmyjah:


What about those that hear but did not have ample time to make up their mind or fully repent of their ways cos struggle with sin and later death?

FxMasterz:

So, even an slowpoke too? How do you practice your own law? Besides, man can peg an age to judge individuals, does that mean that God would use same yardstick as men? What's difficult for you to understand in these things?

FxMasterz:


I believe the scripture above applies to those in a state of coma, or those who became brain dead, or have fainted just before they gave up the ghost. This is my personal inference drawn from that scripture. I have not seen it anywhere being upheld as a Christian doctrine.


NONSENSE

Veecruz:


See it. You have no answer but to insult now that i have reminded you that nearly all the children you call slow grow and even graduate together with their supposed fast and faster mates.
As i said, you do not have any valid thing to say

FxMasterz:

In what way have I insulted you?

You shot yourself in the leg with this lie.

Have you been to a school for the mentally retarded before? They're called Special schools for a reason. ..

FxMasterz:

...You did not know that even among normal people, cognitive and intellectual capabilities still vary?

Veecruz:


See how you are lie by changing the argument
Where you not arguing on normal people and not on mental retards? See your words,

As i said, you do not have any valid thing to say and you hate being corrected because you know everything because you are the best and expert in biblelogy.

FxMasterz:

Is God judging only norma people? Is it not the same God that would judge both the retards and the normal? Are the retards not humans?

FxMasterz:

[b]Even in the court of law, an imbecilic individual or a mad man is not judged the same way as someone who is in his right mind. [/b]Even a full blown adult suffering from dementia is given s great deal of excuses in court. How much more God, the Only Wise?

Veecruz
Why do you not read and assimilate before you speak?

Did i not say "Meaning, that when a person is seen and known to be slow in understanding and fails to understand that he has done a wrong, no just and fair Court will ever convict him"

I am a lawyer, so i know all these more than you.

When you are talking here do you remember mentally retarded people? Even at that when you raised it did we not address it, saying

And that was i answered you that i am a lawyer for i know all the just Laws that must be strictly complied with before a not-sane person (that is what we call your mentally retarded persons in Law) can be properly and rightly convicted of a wrong doing, which is why i have since been saying that you have no valid thing to say but you hate being corrected because you know everything and you are the best and expert in biblelogy.

FxMasterz:

Yes, I remembered all classes of people, that's why I said people develop at different paces, so age of accountability cannot be uniform for all. God knows at what stage He should hold each person accountable for his/her actions.

FxMasterz:
Does that not justify my saying that people develop at different paces and therefore cannot be treated the same way....

Lying yet again for this statement came up because of i was addressing normal people when you said

Which i answered
Veecruz
Have you seen this heavy scrutiny happen to a child below 5?

But by 7 every normal person.is already a subject of inquisition and scrutiny for their action as proven by the fact that most children with still grew through nursery and primary school together with their age mates despite the different cognitive abilities. So there is nothing.separating anyone from lyability based on cognitive difference.

As i said, you do not have any valid thing to say..

You are just repeating yourself in your bid to redeem yourself and you dont have valid thing to say.

FxMasterz:

The question you responded to, did it ask you only about normal people?

Veecruz:


The question has allready answered you and it did ask about mentally retarded 4 year olds. So, you don't have anything to say.