There's an UNCLOS international law that lays down a comprehensive regime of law and order in the world's oceans and seas establishing rules governing all uses of the oceans and their resources.

UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). This convention stipulates that countries that are landlocked but have a direct river that connects to the sea have a right to access the sea. Specifically, this is known as the right of "transit passage" and it allows the landlocked country to use the river to reach the sea for trade and other purposes.

Article 125 of the UNCLOS is the article that outlines the right of transit passage for landlocked countries. This article states that landlocked countries have the right to transit through another country's territory in order to reach the sea. The transit passage must be "continuous and expeditious", and it cannot be used for any purpose other than reaching the sea.
This means that by virtue of Imo river connecting directly to the sea from southeast, Southsouth cannot stop southeast from accessing the sea.

But, really, most likely southsouth may be hostile and decide to break this law, the issue may be taking to UN and back and back and forth. However, southeast can hurt southsouth as well. How?

Southeast can cut off river Niger from flowing into southsouth, by the virtue of diversion or building a large dam on it that ensures that water supply is limited in southsouth. This will cause serious environmental issues in the southsouth before and whenever southeast opens the dam. Flooding, ecosystem degradation and loss of Agricultural potentials. It will deplete the reverine ecosystem of southsouth because river Niger is the major body of water entering southsouth.
This has actually occurred several times, once with Syria and the headwaters of the Jordan river and now with Ethiopia and Egypt with Nile diversion.

I believe it’s universally understood as a casus belli, or reason for war and both Egypt and Israel handled it as such.
The Jordan River diversion directly led to the six day war.


At the end of the day, I think if Nigeria splits, both regions may have to cooperate else both will lose. And if the issue gets to UN, southeast will win via UNCLOS law.
The north can also do same by diverting the Niger river for other purposes, they won't lose much if they liase with southwest for access to seaport.

So it's best for southsouth not to even try to prevent Southeast from accessing the sea if Nigeria breaks, it will cause chaos for both regions and southsouth may lose more.

What will happen at the international level if southsouth prevent southeast from accessing the sea via direct river connections?

"If a country violates the right of transit passage as outlined in Article 125, the affected country can bring the issue to the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea (ITLOS). The ITLOS is a body that was established by the UNCLOS to resolve disputes related to the convention. The ITLOS can issue binding decisions on matters related to the convention, including violations of the right of transit passage.

Sanctions are a potential consequence of violating the right of transit passage under the UNCLOS. Article 297 of the convention states that the ITLOS can order sanctions against a country that violates the convention. Sanctions could include economic sanctions, such as trade restrictions, or diplomatic sanctions, such as the withdrawal of diplomatic relations. However, it's important to note that sanctions are a last resort and are only imposed in the most serious cases. "

Jesus Christ! What did I just read? Some of the things we consume on this forum has a way of reducing one's IQ by 20%.

How do you stop a river flow by building a dam?
How do you divert a river like Niger? You probably thought it's a flood water right?

River Niger and benue meets at a confluence to empty into the Atlantic. Now, look at this map and tell me if you want to divert it to Cameroon or divert it back to Niger Republic from Onitsha..

You can never stop or cause a major diversion except you want to wipe off the entire SE.

Dams doesn't stop river flow. It only absorb excess of water and stores them.

The only sensible point is opening dam to cause damage. But there's a solution. Building a bigger dam in SS to absorb every drop of water you release.

FatherOfJesus:
There's an UNCLOS international law that lays down a comprehensive regime of law and order in the world's oceans and seas establishing rules governing all uses of the oceans and their resources.

UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). This convention stipulates that countries that are landlocked but have a direct river that connects to the sea have a right to access the sea. Specifically, this is known as the right of "transit passage" and it allows the landlocked country to use the river to reach the sea for trade and other purposes.

Article 125 of the UNCLOS is the article that outlines the right of transit passage for landlocked countries. This article states that landlocked countries have the right to transit through another country's territory in order to reach the sea. The transit passage must be "continuous and expeditious", and it cannot be used for any purpose other than reaching the sea.
This means that by virtue of Imo river connecting directly to the sea from southeast, Southsouth cannot stop southeast from accessing the sea.

But, really, most likely southsouth may be hostile and decide to break this law, the issue may be taking to UN and back and back and forth. However, southeast can hurt southsouth as well. How?

Southeast can cut off river Niger from flowing into southsouth, by the virtue of diversion or building a large dam on it that ensures that water supply is limited in southsouth. This will cause serious environmental issues in the southsouth before and whenever southeast opens the dam. Flooding, ecosystem degradation and loss of Agricultural potentials. It will deplete the reverine ecosystem of southsouth because river Niger is the major body of water entering southsouth.
This has actually occurred several times, once with Syria and the headwaters of the Jordan river and now with Ethiopia and Egypt with Nile diversion.

I believe it’s universally understood as a casus belli, or reason for war and both Egypt and Israel handled it as such.
The Jordan River diversion directly led to the six day war.


At the end of the day, I think if Nigeria splits, both regions may have to cooperate else both will lose. And if the issue gets to UN, southeast will win via UNCLOS law.
The north can also do same by diverting the Niger river for other purposes, they won't lose much if they liase with southwest for access to seaport.

So it's best for southsouth not to even try to prevent Southeast from accessing the sea if Nigeria breaks, it will cause chaos for both regions and southsouth may lose more.

Bonny,Port Harcourt and opobo are all Igboland................If southsouth no agree,we will Putinize them the Russian way!!

What is South South and what is South East? Is South South a country and is South East a country?

Assuming (without conceding) that south east alone will become a country, will South South, a non corporate entity within Nigeria make policy to be "hostile" to another country?. Lol you guys now seriously fall victim to your own propaganda.

Go and research about unity province of South Sudan. It was resource rich province created by government of Sudan in an attempt to thwart separatism in the south. But we now know it didn't stop south Sudan from becoming an independent country. Infact, it's part of the south Sudan.

Your south south is nothing but a gerrymandering gimmick. If Biafra goes today, kiss the so-called south south and lower middle belt goodbye. You can argue all you want.

FatherOfJesus:
There's an UNCLOS international law that lays down a comprehensive regime of law and order in the world's oceans and seas establishing rules governing all uses of the oceans and their resources.

UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). This convention stipulates that countries that are landlocked but have a direct river that connects to the sea have a right to access the sea. Specifically, this is known as the right of "transit passage" and it allows the landlocked country to use the river to reach the sea for trade and other purposes.

Article 125 of the UNCLOS is the article that outlines the right of transit passage for landlocked countries. This article states that landlocked countries have the right to transit through another country's territory in order to reach the sea. The transit passage must be "continuous and expeditious", and it cannot be used for any purpose other than reaching the sea.
This means that by virtue of Imo river connecting directly to the sea from southeast, Southsouth cannot stop southeast from accessing the sea.

But, really, most likely southsouth may be hostile and decide to break this law, the issue may be taking to UN and back and back and forth. However, southeast can hurt southsouth as well. How?

Southeast can cut off river Niger from flowing into southsouth, by the virtue of diversion or building a large dam on it that ensures that water supply is limited in southsouth. This will cause serious environmental issues in the southsouth before and whenever southeast opens the dam. Flooding, ecosystem degradation and loss of Agricultural potentials. It will deplete the reverine ecosystem of southsouth because river Niger is the major body of water entering southsouth.
This has actually occurred several times, once with Syria and the headwaters of the Jordan river and now with Ethiopia and Egypt with Nile diversion.

I believe it’s universally understood as a casus belli, or reason for war and both Egypt and Israel handled it as such.
The Jordan River diversion directly led to the six day war.


At the end of the day, I think if Nigeria splits, both regions may have to cooperate else both will lose. And if the issue gets to UN, southeast will win via UNCLOS law.
The north can also do same by diverting the Niger river for other purposes, they won't lose much if they liase with southwest for access to seaport.

So it's best for southsouth not to even try to prevent Southeast from accessing the sea if Nigeria breaks, it will cause chaos for both regions and southsouth may lose more.

Na true talk you talk about UNCLOS o. That law dey very important because e dey ensure say all countries, whether dem get sea border or not, fit access sea for trade and other kain things. Article 125 of UNCLOS clear wella say landlocked countries must to dey allowed make dem pass through other countries reach sea, as long as dem no dey use am for another thing outside reaching sea.

Now, as per the whole gist about Southeast and Southsouth if Naija split, e dey very tricky. If Southeast fit use Imo River reach sea, by right, Southsouth no suppose block them because UNCLOS dey back that kind movement. But life and international politics dey play by different rules sometimes, and countries fit decide to do their own thing out of self-interest or vex.

The idea of Southeast to fit block River Niger from reach Southsouth, na serious matter wey fit cause big environmental and economic wahala. E fit lead to things like flooding, loss of farmland, and even mess up the whole ecosystem for that side. E resemble wetin don happen between other countries before, like the gist about Syria, Jordan river, Ethiopia, and Egypt with the Nile River. These kain moves fit really cause katakata between regions or countries.

But make we no forget say cooperation na the koko. If Naija split happen, e go better make all regions try work together instead of fighting. Fighting or blocking access to natural resources fit end in loss for everybody involved. If matter reach UN, Southeast fit win base on UNCLOS law, but the best thing na to avoid reach that level by cooperating.

For North and Southwest, if dem fit join body for port access, e show say cooperation fit work better pass fighting or blocking each other.

Abeg, e go good make all sides consider say na together everybody go fit achieve more instead of fighting and causing wahala for each other. Na peace and cooperation go help everybody progress pass.

ebufa:




Bonny,Port Harcourt and opobo are all Igboland................If southsouth no agree,we will Putinize them the Russian way!!

Was expecting this.

Many parts of the South South were sympathetic with the Ojukwu war. Even at that, Igbos fled Rivers to their States of origin.

Today, we have people without experience of war chest-beating, claiming people's lands and threatening to 'putinize' people over their lands.

Wetin happen few weeks ago for Delta go be child's play when una attempt that nonsense.

By the way, this Biafra talk don too much na. Which century una wan comot pack everibodi?

kenny714433:
Jesus Christ! What did I just read? Some of the things we consume on this forum has a way of reducing one's IQ by 20%.

How do you stop a river flow by building a dam?
How do you divert a river? You probably thought it's a flood water right?

River Niger and benue meets at a confluence to empty into the Atlantic. Now, look at this map and tell me if you want to divert it to Cameroon or divert it back to Niger Republic from Onitsha..

You can never stop or cause a major diversion except you want to wipe off the entire SE.

Dams doesn't stop river flow. It only absorb excess of water and stores them.

The only sensible point is opening dam to cause damage. But there's a solution. Building a bigger dam in SS to absorb every drop of water you release.

you don't know anything

River can be diverted big time for irrigation purposes and otherwise.

According to UNESCO, there are current interstate conflicts in the Middle East (disputes stemming from the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers among Turkey, Syria, and Iraq; and the Jordan River conflict among Israel, Lebanon, Jordan and the State of Palestine), in Africa (Nile River-related conflicts among Egypt, Ethiopia, and Sudan),[3] as well as in Central Asia (the Aral Sea conflict among Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan).

Even within nation states there is conflicts (obviously not armed conflicts) between the States of Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia over water access the major rivers of the Murry-Darling Basin. A significant issue rose over one sheep property damming water in the Queensland head waters.

But as far as nation states are concerned it raises the issue of the rights of those countries down river to have access to their tradition water supply. But possession favours the one with the resources to build dams to prevent water from moving down stream, AND the power to protect them.

So the issue is “can” they ethically deny water to other people for their own needs. Yes, Southeast can if southsouth does not allow Southeast access to the sea.

We should know the answer to that. And we also know that there are nations that would simply say, “Screw you, Jack,” if they had such head waters.

Armaggedon:
What is South South and what is South East? Is South South a country and is South East a country?

Assuming (without conceding) that south east alone will become a country, will South South, a non corporate entity within Nigeria make policy to be "hostile" to another country?. Lol you guys now seriously fall victim to your own propaganda.

Go and research about unity province of South Sudan. It was resource rich province created by government of Sudan in an attempt to thwart separatism in the south. But we now know it didn't stop south Sudan from becoming an independent country. Infact, it's part of the south Sudan.

Your south south is nothing but a gerrymandering gimmick. If Biafra goes today, kiss the so-called south south and lower middle belt goodbye. You can argue all you want.

I agree with you but I'm just making this hypothetical.
I know that southsouth is too disintegrated to form a country.

NaMe4:


Was expecting this.

Many parts of the South South were sympathetic with the Ojukwu war. Even at that, Igbos fled Rivers to their States of origin.

Today, we have people without experience of war chest-beating, claiming people's lands and threatening to 'putinize' people over their lands.

Wetin happen few weeks ago for Delta go be child's play when una attempt that nonsense.

By the way, this Biafra talk don too much na. Which century una wan comot pack everibodi?

Coup lead by South south man which was major cause of Biafra and Nigeria war is Igbo coup

The first Second in command of Biafra Republic is from South south


But Igbo land ends in South East

Biafra end in south East





Lolz when fOols are deceiving themselves.

ebufa:




Bonny,Port Harcourt and opobo are all Igboland................If southsouth no agree,we will Putinize them the Russian way!!

You guys are not different from Fulani aka Futajalons the only difference is that you guys don’t have the liver yet to grab lands because of the Biafra massacre phobia.
but whenever liver carry you guys to grab other People’s land Biafra proMAX will happen . Everybody is wise now , “Nobody go gree for anybody”

In the event of Nigeria break up, southeast must have access to the sea that is not even up to so called south south cos it won't be in existence anymore, it will be every tribe on their own and ndi Igbo will claim back all their lost territories by fire by force.

Make BIAFRA come so we know our stand. All I know is that waterway access is 100%.

The history lessons taken away from our schools is making some people think & reason with their anus.
Oga OP leave the South South to worry about that.

Their business.

Developers desperately grasping at straws in their confusion.

FatherOfJesus:
you don't know anything

River can be diverted big time for irrigation purposes and otherwise.

According to UNESCO, there are current interstate conflicts in the Middle East (disputes stemming from the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers among Turkey, Syria, and Iraq; and the Jordan River conflict among Israel, Lebanon, Jordan and the State of Palestine), in Africa (Nile River-related conflicts among Egypt, Ethiopia, and Sudan),[3] as well as in Central Asia (the Aral Sea conflict among Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan).

Even within nation states there is conflicts (obviously not armed conflicts) between the States of Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia over water access the major rivers of the Murry-Darling Basin. A significant issue rose over one sheep property damming water in the Queensland head waters.

But as far as nation states are concerned it raises the issue of the rights of those countries down river to have access to their tradition water supply. But possession favours the one with the resources to build dams to prevent water from moving down stream, AND the power to protect them.

So the issue is “can” they ethically deny water to other people for their own needs. Yes, Southeast can if southsouth does not allow Southeast access to the sea.

We should know the answer to that. And we also know that there are nations that would simply say, “Screw you, Jack,” if they had such head waters.

Do you even understand what topography, river course means? Do you even understand what's a river? Biafra wants to create the 8th world wonder by pocketing River Niger 😂

I guess you would fence it round and lock it with made in Aba padlock. Chai, we would send delegate to come beg Biafra.

Instead of locking River Niger in Onitsha, kukuma create an ocean in Onitsha so you have direct access to it. Abi your brain never reach that side?

We will encircle them in the dot. south south should start a regional state militia of 1million men.

kenny714433:


You're too dull. Do you even understand what topography, river course means? Do you even understand what's a river? Biafla wants to create the 8th world wonder by pocketing River Niger 😂

I guess you would fence it round and lock it with made in Aba padlock. Chai, we would send delegate to come beg Biafla.

Instead of locking River Niger in Onitsha, kukuma create an ocean in Onitsha so you have direct access to it. Abi your brain never reach that side?

I'm telling you what's happening life.
Nile river is way larger than River Niger but it can be diverted and this is a cause of concern for Egypt and building multiple dams on it can mess Egypt up. This issue is currently on ground

I think you are dull person here because you failed to pay attention in geography class.

I will soon educate you. Go and read about Danube river and how it was diverted in Hungary, it took UN to ask Hungary to dismantle the dam and other diversion to allow it flow to other countries.

I know that education is really below par in Nigeria but we can ask Google stuffs before making comments, in other not to sound too stupid.

You think south south will still exist after seccession? Even southwest may not even exist anymore, we may have oduduwa west republic, oduduwa north republic, Lagos republic you guys are not even united to say.

FatherOfJesus:
I'm telling you what's happening life.
Nile river is way larger than River Niger but it can be diverted and this is a cause of concern for Egypt and building multiple dams on it can mess Egypt up. This issue is currently on ground

I think you are dull person here because you failed to pay attention in geography class.

I will soon educate you. Go and read about Danube river and how it work diverted in Hungary, it took UN to ask Hungary to dismantle the dam and other diversion to it flow to other countries.

I know that education is really below par in Nigeria but we can ask Google stuffs before making comments, in other not to sound to stupid.

Now take a look at this river map I shared and answer my question. If you build the dam at Onitsha to stop river that flows all the way from Mali, Niger, Chad etc.

1. Would Biafra keep gulping the water because no matter the kind of dam being built, it must discharge into the Atlantic (That's the river course)

2. Would they channel it to Cameroon or to Lagos? Or maybe they would create a flat earth and reverse the flow of water.

3. Would they kukuma create an ocean in Onitsha and cut off the Atlantic ocean?

Answer that question and stop blabbering about what you don't know. Read to understand what volume of discharge, pressure head, upstream and downstream means before you think of damming a river that directly empties into the Atlantic at onitsha.

kenny714433:


Ebod ikaba, now take a look at this river map I shared and answer my question. If you build the dam at Onitsha to stop river that flows all the way from Mali, Niger, Chad etc.

1. Would Biafla keep gulping the water because no matter the kind of dam being built, it must discharge into the Atlantic (That's the river course)

2. Would they channel it to Cameroon or to Lagos?

3. Would they kukuma create an ocean in Onitsha and cut off the Atlantic ocean?

Dullard, answer that question and stop blabbering about what you don't know. Read to understand what volume of discharge, pressure head, upstream and downstream means before you think of damming a river that directly empties into the Atlantic at onitsha.

Education is the key.

This one has failed woefully, there are numerous examples of rivers that has stopped getting to the sea again. I will give you examples soon.

It is a river and its following several kilometres from a source. Building a dam does not mean that you will build a sea in Onitsha, it means that the volume of water will be more before the dam than after it, there by depleting the ecosystems after it.

It's common sense and physics and I can see that education is not really your thing.

kenny714433:


Ebod ikaba, now take a look at this river map I shared and answer my question. If you build the dam at Onitsha to stop river that flows all the way from Mali, Niger, Chad etc.

1. Would Biafla keep gulping the water because no matter the kind of dam being built, it must discharge into the Atlantic (That's the river course)

2. Would they channel it to Cameroon or to Lagos? Or maybe the whole create a flat earth and reverse the flow of water.

3. Would they kukuma create an ocean in Onitsha and cut off the Atlantic ocean?

Dullard, answer that question and stop blabbering about what you don't know. Read to understand what volume of discharge, pressure head, upstream and downstream means before you think of damming a river that directly empties into the Atlantic at onitsha.

This is Colorado River, it has multiple dams on it.

Guess what? Colorado River which used to flow into the Gulf of California but now dries up before it reaches the sea due to the construction of dams. Another example is the Nile River, which used to flow into the Mediterranean Sea but now only reaches Lake Nasser due to the construction of the Aswan High Dam.

Get yourself educated bro, it's not even too much. And because you don't know Nigeria geography, you keep mentioning onitsha.

Why would any sane person build a dam in Onitsha when it would also hurt some places in southeast?

FatherOfJesus:
This is Colorado River, it has multiple dams on it.

Guess what? Colorado River which used to flow into the Gulf of California but now dries up before it reaches the sea due to the construction of dams. Another example is the Nile River, which used to flow into the Mediterranean Sea but now only reaches Lake Nasser due to the construction of the Aswan High Dam.

Get yourself educated bro, it's not even too much. And because you don't know Nigeria geography, you keep mentioning onitsha.

Why would any sane person build a dam in Onitsha when it would also hurt some places in southeast?

Don't tell me you're this daft or you just want to prove a point. You are talking about a river that flows through narrow canyons and valley whose source is from melting of snow and rainfall.

I am taking of a river that collects water from numerous countries, all the rivers meet at a point near Kogi state, then they flow using one single channel via Onitsha.
That's the fucking river mouth that throws everything into the Atlantic.

Key word: Colorado river is a headwater. Its source is from snow melt.

The Onitsha river is a river mouth. It's source is from other larger water bodies.

Is that what you want to dam? You want to dam a river mouth, not for irrigation, not for hydro power but to cut off the river completely?

kenny714433:

just to share further, this is the current satellite image of river Nile, the longest river in the world.
As you can see, it no longer reaches the Mediterranean sea as it used to several years back because Ethiopia is holding it back.

If Southsouth eventually gets a country, it needs to still Cooperate with southeast and even the north else they can be punished. But I don't think it would get to that stage, to be sincere

FatherOfJesus:
There's an UNCLOS international law that lays down a comprehensive regime of law and order in the world's oceans and seas establishing rules governing all uses of the oceans and their resources.

UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). This convention stipulates that countries that are landlocked but have a direct river that connects to the sea have a right to access the sea. Specifically, this is known as the right of "transit passage" and it allows the landlocked country to use the river to reach the sea for trade and other purposes.

Article 125 of the UNCLOS is the article that outlines the right of transit passage for landlocked countries. This article states that landlocked countries have the right to transit through another country's territory in order to reach the sea. The transit passage must be "continuous and expeditious", and it cannot be used for any purpose other than reaching the sea.
This means that by virtue of Imo river connecting directly to the sea from southeast, Southsouth cannot stop southeast from accessing the sea.

But, really, most likely southsouth may be hostile and decide to break this law, the issue may be taking to UN and back and back and forth. However, southeast can hurt southsouth as well. How?

Southeast can cut off river Niger from flowing into southsouth, by the virtue of diversion or building a large dam on it that ensures that water supply is limited in southsouth. This will cause serious environmental issues in the southsouth before and whenever southeast opens the dam. Flooding, ecosystem degradation and loss of Agricultural potentials. It will deplete the reverine ecosystem of southsouth because river Niger is the major body of water entering southsouth.
This has actually occurred several times, once with Syria and the headwaters of the Jordan river and now with Ethiopia and Egypt with Nile diversion.

I believe it’s universally understood as a casus belli, or reason for war and both Egypt and Israel handled it as such.
The Jordan River diversion directly led to the six day war.


At the end of the day, I think if Nigeria splits, both regions may have to cooperate else both will lose. And if the issue gets to UN, southeast will win via UNCLOS law.
The north can also do same by diverting the Niger river for other purposes, they won't lose much if they liase with southwest for access to seaport.

So it's best for southsouth not to even try to prevent Southeast from accessing the sea if Nigeria breaks, it will cause chaos for both regions and southsouth may lose more.

We from the south nor get problem with SE. We will give them what they want.

Access to where exactly?

FatherOfJesus:
just to share further, this is the current satellite image of river Nile, the longest river in the world.
As you can see, it no longer reaches the Mediterranean sea as it used to several years back because Ethiopia is holding it back.

If Southsouth eventually gets a country, it needs to still Cooperate with southeast and even the north else they can be punished. But I don't think it would get to that stage, to be sincere

Read my previous reply to learn bro. Don't quote me again if you don't understand the term
1. Volume of discharge.
2. River mouth
3. Headwater

kenny714433:


Read my previous reply to learn bro. Don't quote me again if you don't understand the term
1. Volume of discharge.
2. River mouth
3. Headwater

You are asking questions like someone with poor geographical knowledge of Nigeria.

There's nothing like river mouth, it's called Delta. And river Nile has more volume of discharge than River Niger and it is still affected by dams.

FatherOfJesus:
You are asking questions like someone with poor geographical knowledge of Nigeria.

There's nothing like river mouth, it's called Delta. And river Nile has more volume of discharge than River Niger and it is still affected by dams.

River Nile has more discharge than River Niger? Oh! You now clear all doubts.

You have now moved away from Colorado river to Nile.

Good luck damming river Niger. Oya you can start it let's see.

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