How my first marriage crashed, after several Abuse~ Pastor Emmanuel Olumide


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This is heartbreaking and powerful lessons at the same time! Interview with Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo and Pastor Emmanuel Olumide

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Only incest is biblically acceptable for a divorce. But many people claim that the Bible permits divorce if adultery happens. Some people claim that the Bible supports divorce if any form of unfaithfulness occurs in the marriage.

If incest is not the biblical ground for a divorce, why did the disciples of Jesus Christ say what they said in Mathew 19:10? Read the chapter and pay attention to the verse 10. Then, tell me why the disciples made the statement.

The problem here is hypocrisy. People want to be here and there. People want to eat their cake and have it.

If you want to divorce your spouse when he or she offends you, avoid church wedding. Do your traditional marriage or any other form of marriage. The issue is that people want church wedding but don't want the cross that comes with church wedding. Church wedding vow says, "... until death do us part". Nobody is forcing you to choose the bible type of marriage. But if you willingly choose it and fail to maintain it, you are deceiving yourself.

Choose a tradition you can maintain. Don't deceive yourself with church wedding when you are not willing to abide by its principles.

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Is Divorce a Sin?

I think the right question should be, did Jesus Permit divorce? Did God permit divorce? In other words, are you even allowed to divorce before you start talking about whether it is a sin or not?

The straight answer is that Jesus never permitted divorce. Once marriage is validly contracted, even adultery as some of you wrongly allege is not a ground for divorce.

I know this whole misunderstanding is coming from Jesus' statement in Matthew 19:9. I will clarify it. But before then, I am not writing this to give people a license to cheat on their spouses. As a matter of fact, you owe your spouse fidelity and faithfulness. It is their right. You are not doing them a favor by being faithful.

Back to Matthew 19:9 where it seemed Jesus gave an exception for divorce:

"Whoever divorces his wife except for unchastity and marries another commits adultery."

The exceptive clause, "EXCEPT FOR UNCHASTITY" is the major issue here. Simply put, unchastity is a good reason to divorce one's spouse.

You may want to ask, what constitutes 'unchastity?' We shall get to know soon.

We all remember that the New Testament was originally written in Greek bah?

The Greek word for unchastity is "PORNEIA." The Protestants argue that this Greek word "porneia" means adultery. This is why if you read the Protestant New International Version of the Bible, Matthew 19:9 is translated thus:

"I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, EXCEPT FOR MARITAL UNFAITHFULNESS, and marries another woman commits adultery."

For most Protestants, though marriage is meant to last a lifetime, but adultery justifies divorce and remarriage. This is because they interpreted the Greek word "porneia" or "unchastity" as adultery.

This is not true. And this is not Catholic teaching.

Catholic biblical scholars believe that it is wrong to translate the Greek word "porneia" as adultery. In the Catholic New American Bible, Matthew 19:9 is translated thus:

"I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful) and marries another commits adultery."

Here, the exceptive clause is: "UNLAWFUL MARRIAGE."

If you read the King James Version of the Bible, the translation for PORNEIA is even more interesting. It translates Matthew 19:9 thus:

"And I say unto you, whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for FORNICATION, and shall marry another committeth adultery."

Here, the exceptive clause is Fornication. And fornication is the sin of two unmarried people having sexual intercourse. If either person is married or both are married to other people, the sin is called adultery. Following this translation, the only way that a couple could commit fornication is if they were never really in a Christian marriage to begin with.

Many recent translations of porneia in Matt 19:9 used "sexual immoralities." That still begs the question of what sexual immoralities could mean.

In all these, what really is the correct translation for the word PORNEIA? Is it the Protestants' "adultery", the King James' "fornication", or the Catholics' "Unlawful marriage"? Even if porneia is to be seen as unchastity or sexual immoralities, what constitutes unchastity?

The answer to the above questions can be better clarified using the bible. I will give you two examples: Matthew 15:19 and Mark 7:21-22.

Matthew 15:19 "For from the heart come evil thoughts, murder, ADULTERY, UNCHASTITY, theft, false witness, blasphemy."

Mark 7:21-22, "From within people, from their hearts, come evil thoughts, UNCHASTITY, theft, murder, ADULTERY, greed, malice, deceit, licentiousness, envy, blasphemy, arrogance, folly."

Pay attention to this: Adultery and unchastity are both prohibited in the texts above. If you read the Greek text, it is "porneia" that is translated as unchastity, in some bible it is translated as sexual immorality. While the Greek word "moicheia" is translated as adultery. Therefore, from these passages, we can see that porneia does not mean adultery as that would be an unnecessary repetition.

The word for adultery in Greek is 'moicheia.' If the author of Matthew 19:9 felt that Christ was talking about adultery, he wouldn't have used 'porneia' which means unchastity.

This is Matthew 19:9 in its original Greek

λέγω δὲ ὑμῖν ὅτι ὃς ἂν ἀπολύσῃ τὴν γυναῖκα αὐτοῦ μὴ ἐπὶ ΠΟΡΝΕΊΑΙ καὶ γαμήσῃ ἄλλην, ΜΟΙΧΑ͂ΤΑΙ.

I have put into capital letters two words:
πορνείᾳ (porneia) and μοιχᾶται (moichatai — verb form)

If the Bible intended that adultery is a ground for divorce, the two words would have been moicheia. And it will read thus: "I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for ADULTERY, and marries another woman commits ADULTERY."

But fortunately or unfortunately, that is not how it was written in the Bible.

If you read Act 15:28-29, the Apostles addressed the Gentiles prohibiting four things:

"For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: that you abstain (1) from what has been sacrificed to idols, and (2) from blood and (3) from what is strangled and (4) from unchastity. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell." RSV (inserted numbers, mine)

Take note of the number (4), still talking about Porneia or Unchastity. These four prohibitions above came from a deep-rooted Jewish tradition found in Leviticus 17 and 18.

If you read Leviticus through, you will discover that in chapter 18, what the Jews mean by unchastity or Porneia was explicitly explained. It was simply an incestuous marriage. Having sexual intercourse with a close relative was greatly forbidden, not to talk of marriage. For the Jews, marriage of this nature is unlawful. This was what Christ was referring to in Matthew 19:9. It is a reference to an unlawful and thus invalid marriage. It is not a reference, as Protestants view it, to a specific act committed during a legitimate "life-long marriage.

Jesus' teaching on divorce was revolutionary. Remember that it was to answer the Jews who thought that one could divorce his wife for some reasons that made Jesus to give the answer he gave. If Jesus permitted divorce, what then makes his teaching different from the one Moses taught the Jews in the OT?

If Christ's teaching on divorce was that simple, how can one explain the surprise that surrounded the disciples when they responded in the next verse?

Matthew 19: 10, "(His) disciples said to him, 'If that is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.'"

©Fr Kelvin Ugwu

immortalcrown:
Only incest is biblically acceptable for a divorce.

So even if your spouse slaps u, guess u still have to turn the other cheek and keep tolerating probably until something bad happens smh

officialwdhtv:
So even if your spouse slaps u, guess u still have to turn the other cheek and keep tolerating probably until something bad happens smh

The problem here is hypocrisy. People want to be here and there. People want to eat their cake and have it.

If you want to divorce your spouse when he or she offends you, avoid church wedding. Do your traditional marriage or any other form of marriage. The issue is that people want church wedding but don't want the cross that comes with church wedding. Church wedding vow says, "... until death do us part".

Choose a tradition you can maintain. Don't deceive yourself with church wedding when you are not willing to abide by its principles.

immortalcrown:
The problem here is hypocrisy. People want to be here and there. People want to eat their cake and have it.

If you want to divorce your spouse when he or she offends you, avoid church wedding. Do your traditional marriage or any other form of marriage. The issue is that people want church wedding but don't want the cross that comes with church wedding. Church wedding vow says, "... until death do us part".

Choose a tradition you can maintain. Don't deceive yourself with church wedding when you are not willing to abide by its principles.

So, even the rich also cry.

Na wah ooooo.

I remember when this man was apostle of married and singles. Hardly a campuse existed that he didn't visit. He showcased his marriage as the best, even as his wife was five years older.

My advice is that, no perfect marriage anywhere. Let us all make our marriages work. Even marriage counsellors are not angels. They too need help.

Thankfully he is alive to tell the story.

Isn’t this the video where he said divorce is not a sin? And he used Kenneth Copeland marrying 3 times to justify what he’s saying? He also used the Meyer’s too?

Sir Olumide, the Word of God is our standard not men’s experiences.

Sorry about the abuse you had to go through thou.

There is this famous Emirati couple who had a seemingly perfect marriage on social media only for us to hear of their separation and possible divorce.

https://pakobserver.net/uae-star-couple-khalid-al-ameri-and-salama-mohamed-divorced/

My observation is that no couple's marriage must be a standard for another person's marriage.

From Pastor Olumide Emmanuel's case, one aspect many men face is emotional violence. While violence of any form is reprehensible, the scars from emotional violence from either party can lead to high blood pressure, mental disorder, depression, trauma, severe mood swings and death.

Again, let me advise those young ones who want to get married or want a relationship. The quality of the person you bring into your life can make you or ruin you for life. While you are enjoying the butterflies in your stomach, do not stomach violence, be it physical violence, mental torture, emotional abuse or disrespect.

As for those who are married and facing life-threatening abuse, God is against divorce, but God is not against you preserving your life when it is threatened by a foolish person. You are not the one to fix a damaged life of someone else when you yourself need fixing.

Women's

immortalcrown:
Only incest is biblically acceptable for a divorce.

The problem here is hypocrisy. People want to be here and there. People want to eat their cake and have it.

If you want to divorce your spouse when he or she offends you, avoid church wedding. Do your traditional marriage or any other form of marriage. The issue is that people want church wedding but don't want the cross that comes with church wedding. Church wedding vow says, "... until death do us part".

Choose a tradition you can maintain. Don't deceive yourself with church wedding when you are not willing to abide by its principles.

Read your bible well. Adultery is also grounds for a divorce. Also if your partner wants a divorce you are allowed to grant him or her that request.

Successful businessmen right there 😉

Hmm

BrighterSyde:
Read your bible well. Adultery is also grounds for a divorce. Also if your partner wants a divorce you are allowed to grant him or her that request.

You are the one who needs to read and understand that part of the Bible.

immortalcrown:
Only incest is biblically acceptable for a divorce.

The problem here is hypocrisy. People want to be here and there. People want to eat their cake and have it.

If you want to divorce your spouse when he or she offends you, avoid church wedding. Do your traditional marriage or any other form of marriage. The issue is that people want church wedding but don't want the cross that comes with church wedding. Church wedding vow says, "... until death do us part".

Choose a tradition you can maintain. Don't deceive yourself with church wedding when you are not willing to abide by its principles.

Incest ? Thought it was adultery as for your second and third paragraphs, spot on analysis 🤝

It is not adultery.

immortalcrown:
Only incest is biblically acceptable for a divorce.

The problem here is hypocrisy. People want to be here and there. People want to eat their cake and have it.

If you want to divorce your spouse when he or she offends you, avoid church wedding. Do your traditional marriage or any other form of marriage. The issue is that people want church wedding but don't want the cross that comes with church wedding. Church wedding vow says, "... until death do us part".

Choose a tradition you can maintain. Don't deceive yourself with church wedding when you are not willing to abide by its principles.

Whether Church, Mosque, Shrine or Traditional wedding, once couples can no longer 'see eye to eye', everyone should find their way.

No need for all these long talks and sermons. It is all these unnecessary long talks that have led many their their early graves.

CoolAmbience:

Whether Church, Mosque, Shrine or Traditional wedding, once couples can no longer 'see eye to eye', everyone should find their way.

No need for all these long talks and sermons. It is all these unnecessary long talks that have led many their their early graves.

Church is different.

Hmm.
The sincere truth is that nothing good ever comes easy. Many couples make mistake with spousal choice. And when they get into marriage, the battle become very unbearable for them. Often times they close their eyes to details they should have seen before stepping into marriages.
For many of them, they can be helped ONLY if they are willing and ready to make compromise. But u see, when the option of divorce is on the table, forget it!

Little issue, couples are already opting out. As if the next person they will meet will be better. Or they themselves are good enough. It is well.

immortalcrown:
Only incest is biblically acceptable for a divorce.

The problem here is hypocrisy. People want to be here and there. People want to eat their cake and have it.

If you want to divorce your spouse when he or she offends you, avoid church wedding. Do your traditional marriage or any other form of marriage. The issue is that people want church wedding but don't want the cross that comes with church wedding. Church wedding vow says, "... until death do us part".

Choose a tradition you can maintain. Don't deceive yourself with church wedding when you are not willing to abide by its principles.

Did you even listen to the interview?

CoolAmbience:



Whether Church, Mosque, Shrine or Traditional wedding, once couples can no longer 'see eye to eye', everyone should find their way.

No need for all these long talks and sermons. It is all these unnecessary long talks that have led many their their early graves.

Hmm
If we go by that, no marriage will exist anymore.

Every single marriage have their own issues. And many can be helped.
Even the best of lovers who are so called 100% compactible can develop issues during marriage.

All these pastors have issues in their marriages.
If you like, go dey listen to pastor as per who to marry

kenoyad:

Did you even listen to the interview?

Why this question?

immortalcrown:
Only incest is biblically acceptable for a divorce.

The problem here is hypocrisy. People want to be here and there. People want to eat their cake and have it.

If you want to divorce your spouse when he or she offends you, avoid church wedding. Do your traditional marriage or any other form of marriage. The issue is that people want church wedding but don't want the cross that comes with church wedding. Church wedding vow says, "... until death do us part".

Choose a tradition you can maintain. Don't deceive yourself with church wedding when you are not willing to abide by its principles.

Let me just correct some of your understanding of scriptures...

Firstly, there is no such thing as "Church Wedding or Marriage"! It's not even Biblical.

Read the Bible, and you will see that marriage is traditional! It has always been, and will always be.

So, whether or not you marry in a building termed Church, or inside the living room of the parents of the bride, God's standard for marriage holds true... It isn't flexible according to the man-made institution you wedded under.

Let's liberate our brains from such indoctrination.


Now, regarding divorce... I believe, or rather know it is permissible solely on the ground of Adultery. This is also applicable under traditional and civil marriage laws.

Infact, it is a firm ground for marriage annulment in a court of law.

This is what I always tell ladies like Pocohantas. With the type of traits they display here about men, trust me, it will be very hard for such types of ladies to build a perfect home with any man.

Now see how a woman has abused her husband in marriage.

When I raise alarms regarding things like these, they will say I am clamouring for submissiveness. If this woman is a submissive woman, her marriage with this man wouldn't have crashed. You see?

Let's those who have ear hear and learn from things like these.

Most of the pastors or men of God today, who always use emotional words to justify their divorce will see plenty of ensamples and stiff opposition on the judgement day.

They will meet the likes of Apostle Ayo Babalola, founder of CAC, who experienced wife battery and harassment throughout his ministry and lifetime yet, refused to divorce her.

There was a time she openly attacked him during a major open air crusade, asking for soup money and the man of God told her there was money inside his agbada at home. She said she's searched everywhere and she couldn't find money and that's why she came. Meanwhile, there was truly no money before the Apostle went for that programme so, the woman was right. She just wanted to humiliate him. God had told him before she mounted the podium to drag his clothe, that your wife will come in her usual manner but I've kept some money inside your agbada for you, tell her to go and check and truly as God was yet done speaking, she appeared.

How many men of God today can do evangelism on empty stomach? They're only chasing money to buy jeeps and live large, faking miracles. This was same man whom God used to raise an already stinking dead woman...who had been dead for 4 days and her body was abandoned by her husband with pregnancy inside her at Oke Ado in Ibadan. Because she died inside her family house, the husband refused to accept her body for burial because she packed out of his house after a heated argument. Her family now dumped her body close to the man's house.

The Apostle's wife now reluctantly left the podium and checked, she found mints inside the agbada, more than what she needed for soup and she came back to ask why did he hide the money from her. The open air crusade received huge crowd and success because captives were set free, miracles happened , God really moved. That's what the devil wanted to deprive people who attended of.

I've got to a point where I can't look back, following God. I had had near death experience from which God rescued me. I had almost committed suicide and God visited me and said it's not the solution, that He will bring me out of the situation but only trust in Him and systematically, He did so.

I only pity those who don't know this God, especially those who have been brainwashed and blindfolded and called themselves atheists. They're the worst losers in this world. If you move close to Him and live a sinless life, you'd see God for real in every area of your life. I can't remember when last I took ordinary paracetamol, an AA and O+ that I am.

Most of the men of God we have today are not even known by God. See how they fake Miracles which only God can make happen, just because of money that will end here. SMH.

immortalcrown:
Only incest is biblically acceptable for a divorce.

The problem here is hypocrisy. People want to be here and there. People want to eat their cake and have it.

If you want to divorce your spouse when he or she offends you, avoid church wedding. Do your traditional marriage or any other form of marriage. The issue is that people want church wedding but don't want the cross that comes with church wedding. Church wedding vow says, "... until death do us part".

Choose a tradition you can maintain. Don't deceive yourself with church wedding when you are not willing to abide by its principles.

You are wrong. the bible mentions unchastity not incest.

Unchastity is the only reason the bible mentions as a justifiable reason for divorce

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99thEnemy:

You are wrong. the bible mentions unchastity not incest.

What is unchastity in the context?