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Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by PHAYOL81: 5:11pm On Apr 03 |
OfficialAPCNig: OfficialAPCNig: You guys just create tension without general knowledge of the argument. If it cost 80 bullion dollars to generate just a gigawatt, how much then would samsung spend for the generation of approximately 17 gigawatts they planned to provide for the country by 2035 or thereabout? Do you mean SAMSUNG is investing $1.3trillion? How would we pay back? Does SAMSUNG as a company worth 2 trillion dols?Is GERMANY economy, of which SAMSUNG is a contributor, a 3 trillion economy? Away from SAMSUNG around $4b investment in Nigerians' power sector now, plentiful research of recent investment in power generation across Africa and Asia call you a liar too. https://medium.com/gods-success-formula/the-cost-of-building-a-100-megawatt-power-plant-e1c0346a3576 https://www.afdb.org/en/news-and-events/press-releases/eritrea-african-development-bank-board-approves-us4992-million-build-30-mw-solar-photovoltaic-power-plant-dekemhare-60271 https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/electricity-power-systems-and-renewable-energy Worthy of note should initially be the fact that cost of generating similar number of megawatts of power varies according to types of energy source and the terrain. And if we have to consider multiple informations from all sources attached herein, it's safe to conclude that Lagos may not have to spend up to $10billion to build as much as a gigawatt of power plant. It may end up not costing more than 5 billion dols. In order not to crumble under the challenges of funding, the state can split the construction into phases (between 4 or 5 phases of either 250MW or 200MW respectively)under a PPP programmed that could be spread across a decade benchmark. That way, it becomes easier so much so that by the time the second phase is completed and distributing, the concession firm should be able to start and build other two phases with revenue generated off the initially built two phases. To conclude, the ABIA geometric power plant don't cost a billion, let alone the $14b or thereabout your calculation puts it. At worst, put in all hike (dollars)and inflation, the 188MW plant wouldn't have gulped a dime above $500millions. And this is me being generous. Do a thorough findings on it and clear your misconception. |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by Dwightventures(m): 5:53pm On Apr 03 |
Ogene001: Do you know what 1MW is? |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by Dwightventures(m): 5:55pm On Apr 03 |
Armaggedon: That's why it must be charged with no subsidy so you all can enjoy your wasteful habits with no bone of productivity |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by Dwightventures(m): 5:59pm On Apr 03 |
1nigeriamyfoot: The one he will supply to whomever will free up the one they were using for others to use. Cynicism |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by Bluntemperor: 6:28pm On Apr 03 |
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Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by barry75: 6:30pm On Apr 03 |
Why are state from the north relatively quiet about the new trend of providing electricity for it's citizens as the new law provides? |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by Blakjewelry(m): 7:09pm On Apr 03 |
kenny714433:Lol solar panels are produced from silicone, silicone production is power intensive. The energy consume is enough to power about 13mwh to produce 1ton of silicon so were is the power? |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by foodlum: 8:00pm On Apr 03 |
Dam5reey1: To find out how many homes a power plant can power, we need to first convert the power capacity of the plant (in this case, 11MW) into kilowatts (kW), since usage is always measured in kWh (kilowatt-hours) per day. 1 MW = 1000 kW So, 11 MW = 11,000 kW Now, if each home needs average of 10,000 watts (10KW) an hour to power its domestic appliances per day, then the energy needs of each home per day is 10 kWh. So, the number of homes that an 11 MW power plant can power per day is according to formula below: Power plant capacity (kW) DIVIDED BY Energy usage per home per day (kWh) Which is = 11,000 kW DIVIDED BY 10 kWh/day Which is = 1100 homes So, the 11 MW power plant can power approximately 1100 homes, assuming each home uses 10 kWh per day which is very likely in most (4 bedroom/4 or 5 family members) middle class Nigerian households with 2 or 3 ACs, 1 or 2 flat screen TVs, 1 audio system, 1 refrigerator and 1 deep freezer, approx 16 interior and exterior light bulbs, approx 4 ceiling fans, 1 clothes iron and 1 portable washing machine. 1 Like |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by OfficialAPCNig: 11:00am On Apr 04 |
PHAYOL81:You are too optimistic. Let me ask, have you ever wondered why Geometric had to build entirely new transmission infrastructure instead of using existing TCN transmission lines? Nigeria has an installed capacity of over 1.3 GW, yet the highest we have ever sent to the national grid was 5,800 MW. Have you ever asked why? Our national grid has a limited electricity-carrying capacity. It will collapse the moment you send over 6,000 MW to it. We need to upgrade to the grid to be able to carry that amount of electricity. I guess you now understand why I said, it'll cost Lagos nearly $80 billion to be fully powered. It'll cover the cost of building the power stations, building a new pipeline from Imo to Lagos, which is 529 KM, and installing new transmission cables to go entirely off-national-grid. PHAYOL81:It's not SAMSUNG but Siemens. The agreement, which was signed in 2019, was to deliver 7,000 MW to the national grid by 2021 and additional, 11,000 MW by 2023, totalling 18GW not 17 GW as you stated above. But this is 2024 and Siemens haven't added 1 MW to the national grid. I believe you already know why. PHAYOL81:Even at that, Lagos doesn't have $5 billion to build a GW of power plant. Again, $5 billion can't build a power plant. Geometric that sits just 25Km away from its gas source costs $800 million many years ago. A 529-KM gas pipeline from Imo to Lagos will cost nearly $2 billion. I don't want to even talk about the transmission infrastructure. A KM cost over $1.2 million. Aba Geometric's transmission cables are over 150KM. How many do you think Lagos will need to fully distribute a GW of electricity? PHAYOL81:How many years for each phase? PHAYOL81:I don't know where you got $14 billion. Geometric cost $800 million. Oya, use $500 million to build a 188MW integrated power plant with 25 km gas pipeline, transmission infrastructure with 150 KM cables, and a distribution company (disco) serving 9 LGAs. |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by OfficialAPCNig: 11:13am On Apr 04 |
foodlum:No home uses 10KWh, it's usually 2Kwh, totally 48Kw daily. So, an 11 MW gas power plant can supply more than 5,000 homes. But this is different for a solar plant. An 11MWh solar facility can power only 250 homes, using 2Kwh around the clock. |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by Evolutionism: 12:00pm On Apr 04 |
foodlum: Are you minding the ignoramus spewing nonsense. There are many oil companies buildings with Fifteen to Twenty Floors on the island and lekki making use of 1MW and there was a time I got an intel that one of these companies Management are still trying to add more MW. Some even use 2000KVA Generator Set. But here we have someone saying just 11MW will power a whole Ten Thousand Homes lol. These are the kind of blockheads wey full Nigeria government. 2 Likes |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by Evolutionism: 12:16pm On Apr 04 |
Dwightventures: 1000kva equals 1megawatt. So what's the big deal?? An average 20 storey building on the island make use of 2000kva generator set. |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by Greenback: 2:26pm On Apr 04 |
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Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by PHAYOL81: 6:44pm On Apr 09 |
OfficialAPCNig: To begin, thumbs up for the correction of the wrong name of firm I had up there. It's a matter of thinking one thing but writing another even when one of the link I posted, which I read myself, pointed it out clearly it's SIEMENS. But then, I guess you didn't read those links I provided too. Anyway, to save time, POWER GENERATION CAN BE SOURCED FROM DIFFERENT FORM OF RESOURCES AND ENERGY: IT INCLUDES BUT NOT LIMITED TO GAS (that you based you argument on), SOLAR, FUEL, HYDRO, COAL etc. I showed various links where some power generation projects are constructed in recent times, their costs and sources of energy. There was another that showed the cost earmarked for the SIEMENS multi-phased investment in the same sector (whether the project is onstream or not doesn't matter although contrary to your opinion and in support of my assertion in previous post, the project is very much alive but delayed)and the number of GIGAWATTS intended to inject into the national grid. It was under $5b. In the same article, the ZUNGERU power plant was highlighted. It was a 700MW power plant in the Kaduna river and it cost around $1.3b to complete. So in a nutshell, there's no way LAGOS would needupward of $15b dollars to get (even your proposed 10gigawatts)let alone spending more on top of just a gigawatt. Secondly, I never said the source of energy must basically be GAS. It could be anything, provided it's cost-efficient, time-saving, and readily available in time of repair and/or recharge. It can be solar, hydro, coal, etc. So, not necessarily gas. Yet, that doesn't stop me from correcting your impression about IMO GAS DEPOSIT. Imo state is not the only state with the deposit eventhough she has the largest. The same LAGOS has a good deposit in the Benin basin and not only LASGIDI but OGUN and ONDO too so they may not need to install any underground pipes to IMO afterall. Having said that, there are already underground gas pipes from NIGER-DELTA to LAGOS enroute some AFRICAN countries and the latest one connecting EUROPE. Again, the state may not need new connection afterall. Lastly, I told you I was being generous with the whooping cost I predicted the ABIA GEOMETRIC PLANT GULPED. Even the massive 700MW Zungeru plant cost a total $1.2b. And remember, latter's capacity is almost 4 times the strenght of the former. But since energy source and terrain determine cost and duration of construction, I won't cut down on my $500m assessment. |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by COMPAQ(m): 7:14pm On Apr 09 |
OfficialAPCNig: A lot of what you have said is also incorrect. $5bln will certainly build you a 1000MW power plant. In fact if well scoped, designed and executed flawlessly, it could deliver you 1500MW to 2000MW. There is no need for a pipeline. There is the escravos Lagos and the pipeline that takes gas to west Africa which have plenty of capacity. OB3 gas pipeline will provide a lot more gas from Assa North field in Imo state when it's ready this year Alternatively $5 bln could get you 2000MW floating solar farms on Lagos Lagoon. Also Siemens is not meant to add that capacity via new generating capacity, but to upgrade the grid to be able to wheel that capacity. Use Google to search cost of gas power plant, cost of solar farms, Siemens project and see if I'm right or not.
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Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by 1nigeriamyfoot: 11:49am On Apr 10 |
winterfell007: If you don't live in Oyo state, keep quiet bro |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by 1nigeriamyfoot: 11:50am On Apr 10 |
Marjoribanks: Seeing the kind of contractor handling the projects with sophisticated machines speaks a lot Here, na block dem dey take do drainage for major road |
Re: Construction Of Oyo State 11 MW Independent Power Plant by Seyi Makinde govt(pix by whatisthetruth: 12:00pm On Apr 10 |
Oh my goodness! I love those solar panels, kudos to this guy. |
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