darediamond:

Wetin concern me and My 4 KILOWATTS Solar Panels, MPPT Controllers, AIR DC C.BREAKERS, 48V Lithium Phosphate Battery Set and 6KW BY 6KW Pure Sine Wave 48V Inverter with Private Families Group Generated Electricity When The Daily Sunshine Is Free For Usage??

1. Can your solar panel actually deliver 4KW at full load?
2. What is the power factor and efficiency of your solar panel?
3. What is the lifespan of the batteries used?

heniford2:
Sabi the will be working in evening now and early morning abi 🤣🫣😜😜 dey dia and Sundays too abi

so long as they see opportunity to cash out

mrvitalis:

It's cheaper to power your factory with gas generator than using national grid

yes but not many can afford that scale and most are at I pass my neighbour level
Also gas gen may not be cheaper than china or even Yankee

Brandosky:

Another foool on the loose. You want people earning #30k to pay $100 for electricity ? What an idiot !!

Better to remain quiet than remove all doubt
With 30k are you seeing light you fool
But you rather we all in darkness than let serious ppl get lights to be productive so they can pay higher salaries but your stupidity will not let you see front

Cromagnon:
yes but not many can afford that scale and most are at I pass my neighbour level
Also gas gen may not be cheaper than china or even Yankee

Anyone who can rent a factory buy machines can buy generator sir

Zxcvbnmghtr:


That's not true. Most factories have not been relaying on 'NEPA' for a very long time because of the epileptic power supply. Truth be told, most businesses run on generator, house holds, spend a lot of money on powering their generators. It's not a factor at all.

Let's just wait and see.

USA where they earn at least $10 per hour

aieromon:


Let's look at the facts on ground.

House 1
Power load = 2000W
Average of 20hrs/day gives 600 hours in a 30 day calendar month.
Power consumption = 2kW * 600h = 1200kWh
Cost of power consumed = ₦225 * 1200 = ₦270,000

House 2
Power load = 2000W
Power is generated using a 2.5 kVA petrol generator. Running wattage is 2000W.
Fuel efficiency = 1.1litres/hour (15 litres in 14 hours at 50% load - generator will consume more if we increase the load but let us stick with this for the purpose of this comparison)
For House 2 to generate 600hrs in a month requires 660L of PMS.
At ₦560/litre, House 2 will spend a sum of ₦369,600 in an attempt to replicate power supply from DISCOs. Maintenance cost has not been factored in these calculations.



A lot of small scale businesses spend up to ₦178,000 monthly running petrol generators.

Power is not cheap!

Yahoo boy.

Cromagnon:

Better to remain quiet than remove all doubt
With 30k are you seeing light you fool
But you rather we all in darkness than let serious ppl get lights to be productive so they can pay higher salaries but your stupidity will not let you see front

Yahoo Plus.

justmi1:
Yes I am, I spend 180k daily on diesel to run my factory. People complaining like there won't be metres. Average person don't consume much power as they have fewer appliances. An average man needs power for empowerment not leisure.

Na Yahoo you dey do.

Great2017:

1. Can your solar panel actually deliver 4KW at full load?
2. What is the power factor and efficiency of your solar panel?
3. What is the lifespan of the batteries used?

Yes they are, altogether via the MPPT Controllers into a 48V 150Ah LifePo4 E.Power Condenser with a Lifespan of at least 15years when being used to power load directly. But with more than 25years when Pulsed Discharged first into a Super-Capacitor Bank Of High Farad at 48V before being discharged into the Inverter.

It means PHCN will be shut down completely.

Though I know 178k is a lie and a gimmick to hike the tariff a little high. They just want us to argue, complain and swear. Then the politicians from presidency to legislative to unions will come to pretend they are saving us. And reduce it to a level that we do not have the energy to argue but to accept

Politicians and taken the citizens for dumbassess. The citizens are proving that just fine

ednut1:
My electricity bill in canada is 1.25% of my monthly income. The average Nigerian is not earning that amount

Ontario has Nuclear plants so power generation is much cheaper. Also you aren't factoring other costs into your income to energy consumption details. Economics of scale also plays a lot in this. Lots of industrial users in Ontario subsidize the rate for household energy costs.

So common sense is to increase cost reflective rates so we can have investors come in to improve power. We would never develop without 247 electricity and would continuously lose companies due to poor power. So it is either you increase rates, get new entrants, generate and transmit more or keep tarrifs at these rates and wail for another 40 years about poor power supply.

The funny thing is we are just subsidizing electricity for the rich and keeping the poor poor. No guaranteed electricity, no development, no jobs.Your average person earning 30k minimum wage isn't consuming more than a tv, light bulb and fan. It is the rich who can comfortably afford these thing thay have tons gadgets, AC, washing machines, dryer, chandeliers and whatnot that we are currently subsidizing while punishing the whole country with epileptic power.


We should learn to look at the bigger picture instead of in front of our noses only.

onegig:


Ontario has Nuclear plants so power generation is much cheaper. Also you aren't factoring other costs into your income to energy consumption details. Economics of scale also plays a lot in this. Lots of industrial users in Ontario subsidize the rate for household energy costs.

So common sense is to increase cost reflective rates so we can have investors come in to improve power. We would never develop without 247 electricity and would continuously lose companies due to poor power. So it is either you increase rates, get new entrants, generate and transmit more or keep tarrifs at these rates and wail for another 40 years about poor power supply.

The funny thing is we are just subsidizing electricity for the rich and keeping the poor poor. No guaranteed electricity, no development, no jobs.Your average person earning 30k minimum wage isn't consuming more than a tv, light bulb and fan. It is the rich who can comfortably afford these thing thay have tons gadgets, AC, washing machines, dryer, chandeliers and whatnot that we are currently subsidizing while punishing the whole country with epileptic power.


We should learn to look at the bigger picture instead of in front of our noses only.

a case of you wanting to sound clever. Which investors will come invest where the average person can’t afford it. With all the subsidies minimum wage has not increased, all this one na wishful thinking. Nothing this administration has done shows they have a plan for economic growth 🤣

ednut1:
a case of you wanting to sound clever. Which investors will come invest where the average person can’t afford it. With all the subsidies minimum wage has not increased, all this one na wishful thinking. Nothing this administration has done shows they have a plan for economic growth 🤣

Investors would invest when they can recoup their investments. Would you invest billions into a biz and be told you can't charge cost reflective rates because the government has set a cap? The biggest stumbling block isn't the availability of would be energy users.

Tons are Willing to pay the rates. Heck TOFA was supplying lots of houses and businesses in VI alternate power as far back as 2018 and they were charging N140 per kwh when diesel was still around N600/litre.

Also aren't Nigerians already spending the money on diesel/petrol? Every single house on a block of street in Lagos has a generator. Even if they ran at least for an average of 6 hours daily. They would spend nothing less than N40k monthly on petrol and maintenance costs. That's not inclusive of how inefficient those power sources are and the attendant noise?

The usual rhetorics of poor people, minimum wage is just shortsightedness. Even if minimum wage was to be moved to 200k today. How many Nigerians work in the formal sector where this would reflect their pay immediately? The government doesn't need to want progress. They should hands off power and just be a regulator that ensures fairness for both consumers and power companies.

We have been subsidizing energy for 40 plus years and still can't guarantee even 12 hours across country. But nah, Let us continue the same insanity and expect miracles.


For any discerning minds. Just go through this. https://twitter.com/ugodre/status/1612040921377558528?t=667e3nGW3ENxZcIc85kRJw&s=19

darediamond:


Yes they are, altogether via the MPPT Controllers into a 48V 150Ah LifePo4 E.Power Condenser with a Lifespan of at least 15years when being used to power load directly. But with more than 25years when Pulsed Discharged first into a Super-Capacitor Bank Of High Farad at 48V before being discharged into the Inverter.

What is the power factor and efficiency ?

aieromon:


Let's look at the facts on ground.

House 1
Power load = 2000W
Average of 20hrs/day gives 600 hours in a 30 day calendar month.
Power consumption = 2kW * 600h = 1200kWh
Cost of power consumed = ₦225 * 1200 = ₦270,000

House 2
Power load = 2000W
Power is generated using a 2.5 kVA petrol generator. Running wattage is 2000W.
Fuel efficiency = 1.1litres/hour (15 litres in 14 hours at 50% load - generator will consume more if we increase the load but let us stick with this for the purpose of this comparison)
For House 2 to generate 600hrs in a month requires 660L of PMS.
At ₦560/litre, House 2 will spend a sum of ₦369,600 in an attempt to replicate power supply from DISCOs. Maintenance cost has not been factored in these calculations.



A lot of small scale businesses spend up to ₦178,000 monthly running petrol generators.

Power is not cheap!

Prigidypogodo
Come and see paid agent.
I trust your comment!

Coolgent:



Prigidypogodo
Come and see paid agent.
I trust your comment!

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Digmygold:


Yahoo Plus.

Can't answer abi
Spoken like a true tool

mrvitalis:

Anyone who can rent a factory buy machines can buy generator sir

not at scale. I don't know if small gas gens are economical enough

MIKOLOWISKA:
not at scale. I don't know if small gas gens are economical enough

They are

Great2017:

What is the power factor and efficiency ?

Your question does have no place for answer in my S.Gen Set Up.

darediamond:

Your question does have no place for answer in my S.Gen Set Up.

I quite agree with the power factor. What about the peak efficiency (the energy lost during inversion), start voltage and total harmonic distortion?

No No No.
Never Never Never.

Until minimum wage becomes N534'000=

Cromagnon:

Better to remain quiet than remove all doubt
With 30k are you seeing light you fool
But you rather we all in darkness than let serious ppl get lights to be productive so they can pay higher salaries but your stupidity will not let you see front

Dumboski , na people with #30k minimum wage go afford the product, you produced with your premium, expensive electricity( though still very much epileptic ) .
I keep wondering why we have so many idiots in this country.

Brandosky:

Dumboski , na people with #30k minimum wage go afford the product, you produced with your premium, expensive electricity( though still very much epileptic ) .
I keep wondering why we have so many idiots in this country.

Slow poke
They already affording it from abroad
If produced in Nigeria or will be cheaper as r they're is no transportation added
Goodness you're dafft

mrvitalis:

They are

do you know if any in operation in nigeria or another country and the link to it

MIKOLOWISKA:

Slow poke
They already affording it from abroad
If produced in Nigeria or will be cheaper as r they're is no transportation added
Goodness you're dafft

Dumbo cost of production is lower in china, because of idiotic leaders who can't provide enabling factors like steady reliable electricity. There is nothing like band A and band B . 92% of Nigerians can't boost of 12hrs electricity daily. Unfortunately, you are just as stupid as your leaders to figure this out

TheOldGods:
oh, so he or she can't buy ac and enjoy in their home In these hot weather right?

He or she needs to keep upto 3months of the salary to afford the ac first before talking about the electricity to power it.