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God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Jokerman(m): 7:11am On Apr 10
In the old testament, we see that God had strict rules for Humans, and immediately there's a break in this rule, it's straight up judgement.

God does not condone sin or disobedience e.g

Adam and Eve, were immediately pronounced for judgement and were cast out of the garden of plenty. However today people commit more sins than they, both don't receive immediate judgement.

The people of the Antediluvian period, were washed away with flood from the deep and up high when they sinned, today's sin is worse

42 kids were mauled by lions when they mocked the prophet of God, but today, people do worse to God's prophets and even kill them

Moses never got to the promised land, the people of Israel spent 40 years wandering the desert because of complaints and murmuring, today people do worse.

Lot's wife was turned to a pillar of Salt because she looked backed, many dumb atheists of today would have been pillars of Salt in different countries today 😂

In the old testament, God literally killed uzzah for touching the ark of covenant in an attempt to prevent it from falling💀, today many do worse, like stealing in the church, commit fornication on the altar and teach lies and heresy.

*If not because of Jesus pleading (our advocate), on our behalf, what do you think God would have done??
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Jokerman(m): 7:17am On Apr 10
However, we have to understand that God does not condone sin, neither does he change His ways, precepts or stand.

He is the righteous judge, full of grace and mercy, and that's why Jesus Christ came to teach us exactly what God wants, and how to live according to God's words and gave us the grace to live a Christian life.

As St Peter rightly pointed out to is in his book..

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent.

Let us not take advantage of God's grace and the work of Jesus.

Let us also understand that by works, we can't please God, as many of us like to show self righteousness grin... We can only make it to God's kingdom through accept the work the Lord Jesus Christ did for us at the cross of Calvary.

After Death, no more grace and mercy. Let's do it when we are alive.

God is very strict. Imagine what the lake of fire will be for the unbelieving, sinners and ungodly.

Shalom

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Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Stargirl2011(f): 10:06am On Apr 10
@jokerman what is my name at the end of d writting? But truth be told God only want to give us time to learn our lesson wat happened to Ananias and Sapphira? God pronounced judgement on them Shalom
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Jokerman(m): 10:30am On Apr 10
Stargirl2011:
@jokerman what is my name at the end of d writting? But truth be told God only want to give us time to learn our lesson wat happened to Ananias and Sapphira? God pronounced judgement on them Shalom

That shows us God can be very strict, as He is the same yesterday, today and forever, and it is by His Mercy (The Lord Jesus Christ) that we are not consumed.... And hence this is why St Paul admonished us in the book of Hebrews

Hebrews 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

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Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Stargirl2011(f): 10:32am On Apr 10
Jokerman:


That shows us God can be very strict, as He is the same yesterday, today and forever, and it is by His Mercy (The Lord Jesus Christ) that we are not consumed.... And hence this is why St Paul admonished us in the book of Hebrews

Hebrews 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Yes he never changes and he never fails...

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Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by LordReed(m): 11:14am On Apr 10
Jokerman:
In the old testament, we see that God had strict rules for Humans, and immediately there's a break in this rule, it's straight up judgement.

God does not condone sin or disobedience e.g

Adam and Eve, were immediately pronounced for judgement and were cast out of the garden of plenty. However today people commit more sins than they, both don't receive immediate judgement.

The people of the Antediluvian period, were washed away with flood from the deep and up high when they sinned, today's sin is worse

42 kids were mauled by lions when they mocked the prophet of God, but today, people do worse to God's prophets and even kill them

Moses never got to the promised land, the people of Israel spent 40 years wandering the desert because of complaints and murmuring, today people do worse.

Lot's wife was turned to a pillar of Salt because she looked backed, many dumb atheists of today would have been pillars of Salt in different countries today 😂

In the old testament, God literally killed uzzah for touching the ark of covenant in an attempt to prevent it from falling💀, today many do worse, like stealing in the church, commit fornication on the altar and teach lies and heresy.

*If not because of Jesus pleading (our advocate), on our behalf, what do you think God would have done??

Evidence please! No evidence of a so called garden of Eden. No evidence of a global flood. No evidence of a person turned to a pillar of salt. No evidence that your god can command animals. Just stories upon stories.

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Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Stargirl2011(f): 11:29am On Apr 10
LordReed:


Evidence please! No evidence of a so called garden of Eden. No evidence of a global flood. No evidence of a person turned to a pillar of salt. No evidence that your god can command animals. Just stories upon stories.
The Holy Bible is a living evidence. Tell me how did we get here? Who created us?
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by LordReed(m): 11:45am On Apr 10
Stargirl2011:
The Holy Bible is a living evidence. Tell me how did we get here? Who created us?

The Bible is evidence like Harry Potter books are evidence.

We got here through natural processes.

Nobody created us.

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Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Stargirl2011(f): 11:49am On Apr 10
LordReed:

The Bible is evidence like Harry Potter books are evidence.
We got here through natural processes.
Nobody created us.
Why not tell me d natural process
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Jokerman(m): 1:12pm On Apr 10
LordReed:


The Bible is evidence like Harry Potter books are evidence.

We got here through natural processes.

Nobody created us.

Not your fault bro...

Assuming we are still in the old testament, you'd have probably turned to s pillar of salt for leaving your church...
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by GreatAchiever1: 2:55pm On Apr 10
The idea that the God of the old testament is strict is a very strange idea, because the God of the old testament is still the same God of today. Heb 13:8.
Let me use the same Adam and Eve example that you used first. Remember he showed mercy upon them, he offered sacrifice for their sins that is, in the killing of an animal to cover their unclothedness as a remission for their sins.
He made a covenant with them about an incoming Messiah in Gen 3:15 which began the covenant of Grace.
The Eviction from the garden is the consequences from their defiance against the Command of God in the garden of Eden, and also in bringing in the advent of death.

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Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Livingdeath(m): 3:04pm On Apr 10
i think the reason God was strict with his people was that...that was the only way back then,the israelites were too stubborn. but mind you God did promise he would unify all peoples to worship him.
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by atheistconverta: 3:45pm On Apr 10
You say He's very strict but He permitted woman to speak in His temple and even to lead His people Israel, yet you antichrists say after the coming of Jesus, His Word stopped women from speaking in the church because it's a shame for them to do so. Continue deceiving yourselves women-hating antichrists!
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by LordReed(m): 4:24pm On Apr 10
Jokerman:


Not your fault bro...

Assuming we are still in the old testament, you'd have probably turned to s pillar of salt for leaving your church...

LoLz. Story. Just imagine none of these fantastical tales have any evidence. Just stories upon stories. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by LordReed(m): 4:27pm On Apr 10
Stargirl2011:
Why not tell me d natural process

You and I currently, child birth. The human specie as we are now, evolution.
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Jokerman(m): 4:42pm On Apr 10
atheistconverta:
You say He's very strict but He permitted woman to speak in His temple and even to lead His people Israel, yet you antichrists say after the coming of Jesus, His Word stopped women from speaking in the church because it's a shame for them to do so. Continue deceiving yourselves women-hating antichrists!

Bro, there's no where women were stopped for doing the work of God in the Bible...

And no one hates women.... However right from time Men have been the leaders according to God's order.

Man was created first, and given the power to lead.

You can't know more than Jesus who didnt even make a woman to be amongst his 12.... And that's the same line St Paul used to address the misgivings in the early Church....
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Jokerman(m): 4:45pm On Apr 10
Livingdeath:
i think the reason God was strict with his people was that...that was the only way back then,the israelites were too stubborn. but mind you God did promise he would unify all peoples to worship him.

They are still very stubborn till today... They are still following the judaic laws, and making errors instead of accepting the salvation which Jesus Christ brought....

Many of the Israelis are heading to hell, while the gentiles who have accepted Jesus will make God's kingdom....

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Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by atheistconverta: 9:00pm On Apr 10
Jokerman:


Bro, there's no where women were stopped for doing the work of God in the Bible...

And no one hates women.... However right from time Men have been the leaders according to God's order.

Man was created first, and given the power to lead.

You can't know more than Jesus who didnt even make a woman to be amongst his 12.... And that's the same line St Paul used to address the misgivings in the early Church....
Please kindly stop calling me bro. I am not a brother of antichrists who claim to be Christians but would be attacking those who uphold the teachings of Christ instead of those which go against them. You haven't still shown us where God stopped women from speaking in His House, either in the temple in Jerusalem or in the church Christ built that would warrant such a heretic saying by Paul that women were not supposed to speak in churches because it's a thing of shame which you blindly embraced as the Word of God. This thread which you claim God was very harsh before the coming of Christ exposes your ignorance, hypocrisy and also confirm your anti-women sentiments. God was very harsh before Christ came yet He allowed women to speak in the Jewish temple, but you will still blindly accept a heretic anti-women teaching by Paul that women were not meant to speak in Christ church which was supposed to be less harsh, because it's a thing of shame, even though it clearly goes against the teachings of Christ.
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by gohf: 9:21pm On Apr 10
God is merciful and kind

Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by safarifarms(m): 12:31am On Apr 11
LordReed:


The Bible is evidence like Harry Potter books are evidence.

We got here through natural processes.

Nobody created us.

Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by safarifarms(m): 12:36am On Apr 11
LordReed:


Evidence please! No evidence of a so called garden of Eden. No evidence of a global flood. No evidence of a person turned to a pillar of salt. No evidence that your god can command animals. Just stories upon stories.

Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Veecruz: 1:59am On Apr 11
LordReed:


Evidence please! No evidence of a so called garden of Eden. No evidence of a global flood. No evidence of a person turned to a pillar of salt. No evidence that your god can command animals. Just stories upon stories.

Isreal's return in 1947, Egypt, Muslims and the present world troubulations prove all in the bible
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Veecruz: 2:13am On Apr 11
atheistconverta:
Please kindly stop calling me bro. I am not a brother of antichrists who claim to be Christians but would be attacking those who uphold the teachings of Christ instead of those which go against them. You haven't still shown us where God stopped women from speaking in His House, either in the temple in Jerusalem or in the church Christ built that would warrant such a heretic saying by Paul that women were not supposed to speak in churches because it's a thing of shame which you blindly embraced as the Word of God. ..

Did you.see a Levite girl/woman serve God and carry out the duty of the Levite?

Or did you see that a woman chosen to be one of the disciples of God when He came visiting?
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Veecruz: 2:22am On Apr 11
Jokerman:


...Man was created first, and given the power to lead......

Wrong! Man was not given the power to lead in Genesis it is rather because woman was the first to sin, and when you sin, you are lowered and dishonoured and the righteous shall be above the sinner.

And women do more evil than men so, she is always going to be down while the man rules her.
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by atheistconverta: 5:45am On Apr 11
Veecruz:


Did you.see a Levite girl/woman serve God and carry out the duty of the Levite?

Or did you see that a woman chosen to be one of the disciples of God when He came visiting?
For an agent of the serpent spreading the demonic heretic gospel of the serpent having sex with the woman, and also making numerous anti-women threads here, including calling all women, which includes his own mother, the serpent's seed, what else should I expect from you? You must be blind to the fact that women like prophetess Anna were allowed to preach and prophesy in the temple. Moreover Deborah was appointed by God to be both the spiritual and political leader of His people Israel. She was the only woman of 15 to 17 judges chosen by God to lead His people Israel, the rest were men, which isn't different from Jesus not choosing any women of His first 12 as that doesn't mean no woman is among the 72 He also chose. So instead of talking amiss, why not show me one place God told women not to speak in His House, the Jewish temple, or the church built by Christ, if not the heretic saying of Paul about women not speaking in the church, despite Christ Himself having given women that permission?
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by LordReed(m): 7:23am On Apr 11
safarifarms:
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Bwahahahahaha!
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by LordReed(m): 7:25am On Apr 11
Veecruz:


Isreal's return in 1947, Egypt, Muslims and the present world troubulations prove all in the bible

No they don't.
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Veecruz: 7:59am On Apr 11
LordReed:


No they don't.

O yes, they do, that's why you.could not say more than "no they don't".

The evidence is not rebuttable. Eg The bible foresaid, Isreal shall be split in 2. It was done. And the bible again foresad that they shall be removed from the.land God gave them. It was done....
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Veecruz: 8:30am On Apr 11
atheistconverta:
For an agent of the serpent spreading the demonic heretic gospel of the serpent having sex with the woman, and also making numerous anti-women threads here, including calling all women, which includes his own mother, the serpent's seed, what else should I expect from you?

And yet you could not validly.counter the presentation, since then till date. You obviously dont love Truths and you love denials like the man who sees the signs of his wife cheating yet says, its not true.

atheistconverta:

You must be blind to the fact that women like prophetess Anna were allowed to preach and prophesy in the temple. Moreover Deborah was appointed by God to be both the spiritual and political leader of His people Israel. She was the only woman of 15 to 17 judges chosen by God to lead His people Israel, the rest were men, which isn't different from Jesus not choosing any women of His first 12 as that doesn't mean no woman is among the 72 He also chose. So instead of talking amiss, why not show me one place God told women not to speak in His House, the Jewish temple, or the church built by Christ, if not the heretic saying of Paul about women not speaking in the church, despite Christ Himself having given women that permission?

Deborah did not serve in the temple . She was just a natural Judge and must have been a fair judge which got her raised to the position of a Ruler. But she did not serve.in the temple.

Luke shows us that Ana lived in the temple and worshiped night and day with fasting and prayer, and she did not preach in it.
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by LordReed(m): 9:04am On Apr 11
Veecruz:


O yes, they do, that's why you.could not say more than "no they don't".

The evidence is not rebuttable. Eg The bible foresaid, Isreal shall be split in 2. It was done. And the bible again foresad that they shall be removed from the.land God gave them. It was done....

Because all of it is post hoc rationalisation. Same way people claim Nostradamus prophesied this and that. There isn't more to say than that.
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Jokerman(m): 9:36am On Apr 11
LordReed:


No they don't.

What about Jesus Christ prediction of the destruction of the temple in 32 or 33AD, which happened 40 years later in AD 70?
Re: God Of The Old Testament Was Very Strict Before The Advent Of Jesus Christ by Veecruz: 10:04am On Apr 11
LordReed:


Because all of it is post hoc rationalisation. Same way people claim Nostradamus prophesied this and that. There isn't more to say than that.

Nostra's predictions was very vague and ambigous hence why no one fully says "see, nostradamus predicted this or that and it has happened"

wbereas God's prophecies were very clear and precise and even given very vey far in the psst when no reasonable person could ever imagine such things happening exactly like these days endtiime events could not even be seen and imagined even in the year 2000 whent the world was sweet people knew that success and prosperity was in tbeir hands.

So, you cannot validly deny it.

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