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Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Emusan(m): 5:58pm On Apr 21
MaxInDHouse:
Since you're not answering

Is dishonesty to say I'm not answering.

then my own Jesus called my God by the name JEHOVAH! Mark 12:29 NWT

Well, that's according to perverted NWT no other translation has that.

Jesus can't pronounce a name COINED by A Catholic Mork thousands of years later cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:09pm On Apr 21
Emusan:

Is dishonesty to say I'm not answering.
Well, that's according to perverted NWT no other translation has that.
Jesus can't pronounce a name COINED by A Catholic Mork thousands of years later cheesy grin cheesy grin

Neither did any of his disciples called him by the name Jesus! wink
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Emusan(m): 6:15pm On Apr 21
MaxInDHouse:
Neither did any of his disciples called him by the name Jesus! wink

Yes! because they aren't English speaking but they called Him Yeshua/lēsous

If our conversation is in Hebrew or Greek you can't read Jesus anywhere. cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:19pm On Apr 21
Emusan:

Yes! because they aren't English speaking but they called Him Yeshua/lēsous. If our conversation is in Hebrew or Greek you can't read Jesus anywhere. cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Now you're talking the name Jesus was coined out just as Jehovah that's the point. So you can't kick against one and leave the other! wink
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Emusan(m): 6:22pm On Apr 21
Aemmyjah:
Is it proper to use the KJV as reference when it comes to whether God's name should be in certain places of the Bible?

No! You use MANUSCRIPTS.

KJV is just a TRANSLATION just as NWT.
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Emusan(m): 6:27pm On Apr 21
MaxInDHouse:
Now you're talking the name Jesus was coined out

No! Was TRANSLATED.

just as Jehovah that's the point.

Jehovah was coined because the Four Tetragrammaton can't be pronounced.

So you can't kick against one and leave the other! wink

Only if you understand that there's different between TRANSLATION and FORMULATION.

Jesus is a translation

Jehovah is a formulation/coined.

Learn learn
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:28pm On Apr 21
Emusan:

No! You use MANUSCRIPTS.
KJV is just a TRANSLATION just as NWT.

Of what essence is manuscript when we have found the solution?

The purpose for which God inspired the writers of the book is for his worshipers to form a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} the letter doesn't have any value if you're not able to fulfill what the scriptures promised! 2Corinthians 3:6

With the NWT God's promise of a global family of peace loving worshipers has come true! smiley
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:31pm On Apr 21
Emusan:

No! Was TRANSLATED.
Jehovah was coined because the Four Tetragrammaton can't be pronounced.
Only if you understand that there's different between TRANSLATION and FORMULATION.
Jesus is a translation
Jehovah is a formulation/coined.
Learn learn

There's no need for any if you're sincere to yourself as long as the both aren't what was used by the people back in Bible times! wink
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Emusan(m): 6:32pm On Apr 21
MaxInDHouse:
Of what essence is manuscript when we have found the solution?

To know how God used the writers to pen down His words.

If the manuscripts we have today spells out directly that Jesus is Yahweh even you won't contest it.

The purpose for which God inspired the writers of the book is for his worshipers to form a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} the letter doesn't have any value if you're not able to fulfill what the scriptures promised! 2Corinthians 3:6

With the NWT God's promise of a global family of peace loving worshipers has come true! smiley

Out of context as usual.

You can't lies against God.

If the name doesn't appear in the NT, claiming it appears there is lying against God no matter how angelic you portrait your organisation.
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Emusan(m): 6:37pm On Apr 21
MaxInDHouse:
There's no need for any if you're sincere to yourself as long as the both aren't what was used by the people back in Bible times! wink

Smile...

Now you know that there's different.

Well, for now YHWH never appeared in any known OLDEST NT manuscripts in our possession today.

So how can Jesus used it?
If the name is so special, why will it be omitted?
If God actually inspired the NT writer and the name is so important, God would have ensured the presence of the name.
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:50pm On Apr 21
Emusan:


Smile...

Now you know that there's different.

Well, for now YHWH never appeared in any known OLDEST NT manuscripts in our possession today.

So how can Jesus used it?
If the name is so special, why will it be omitted?
If God actually inspired the NT writer and the name is so important, God would have ensured the presence of the name.

Jesus prayed to his father {John 17:6} whose name is JEHOVAH! Mark 12:31 compared to Deuteronomy 6:4

He never prayed to TRINITY! cheesy

Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Emusan(m): 7:13pm On Apr 21
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus prayed to his father {John 17:6} whose name is JEHOVAH! Mark 12:31 compared to Deuteronomy 6:4

Another evidence that Jesus never used the name and that the name isn't important for us Christian today.

The only Name given by which man can be saved is the name Jesus. Acts 4:12; ROM 10:13, Phil 2:9-10

He never prayed to TRINITY! cheesy

Nobody is talking about Trinity here.

The name YHWH never appeared in the NT.
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:24pm On Apr 21
Emusan:

Another evidence that Jesus never used the name and that the name isn't important for us Christian today. The only Name given by which man can be saved is the name Jesus. Acts 4:12; ROM 10:13, Phil 2:9-10 Nobody is talking about Trinity here. The name YHWH never appeared in the NT.

Of course it surely appeared if Jesus quoted Moses using the name {Deuteronomy 6:4; Mark 12:29} then something is wrong somewhere! wink
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Ken4Christ: 8:18pm On Apr 21
MaxInDHouse:



The version you're using is what is misleading you.

Anywhere the title "LORD" is written in your Bible it's God's personal name that was written there before your translators replaced it with the title LORD.

Check these Bible books:
Exodus 6:3; Psalms 23:1; 83:18; Isaiah 12:2; 24:6

Now at Deuteronomy 6:4

Moses used the divine name YHWH translated YAHWEH or JEHOVAH but your translators replaced it with the title LORD.

So at Mark 12:29 where Jesus said:

The first is "Hear oh Israel JEHOVAH our God is one JEHOVAH" just as Moses said your own translation rendered it this way:

"Hear oh Israel the Lord our God is one Lord"

That's why you don't grasp what is happening! smiley

Give me references from the New Testament where Jesus called God Jehovah. You are backward.
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Ken4Christ: 8:21pm On Apr 21
Michael547:

So Jesus declared to people that his father's name was 'Jesus' according to John 17:26?

The name of Jesus is what is given to us for salvation. You won't receive salvation trying to call any other name even if it's one of the names of God. Why not think about your salvation. It's the most important subject on earth.
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:33pm On Apr 21
Ken4Christ:

Give me references from the New Testament where Jesus called God Jehovah. You are backward.
Continue deceiving yourself Jesus quoted the Bible book of Deuteronomy 6:4 there the name JEHOVAH is what was written!

“Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah" Deuteronomy 6:4

Jesus quoted Moses

Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah" Mark 12:29


So you have no excuse! smiley
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Michael547(m): 8:44pm On Apr 21
Ken4Christ:


The name of Jesus is what is given to us for salvation. You won't receive salvation trying to call any other name even if it's one of the names of God. Why not think about your salvation. It's the most important subject on earth.
So are you agreeing that the name of The Father that Jesus claimed to declare in John 17:26 is 'Jesus'?
Yes or no?

Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Emusan(m): 8:46pm On Apr 21
MaxInDHouse:
Of course it surely appeared if Jesus quoted Moses using the name {Deuteronomy 6:4; Mark 12:29} then something is wrong somewhere! wink

Now you agreed something is wrong somewhere.

So what are the possibly things that went wrong?

I have a Watchtower statement I'll drop after you answer that question cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Omoluji: 9:23pm On Apr 21
Greetings to the children of the most high God. The doctrine of God head does not equate the Almighty God with his son Jesus Christ, though they are one ,why? Because unity of purpose. The prophecies of Jesus Christ in the old testament clearly distinguish between the father and the son e.g. the book of Isaiah 9:6 for unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given,and the government shall be upon his shoulder and his name shall be called "wonderful, counselor,the mighty God ,the everlasting father ,the prince of peace ,. There are two titles here we need to view well, (1) the mighty God ,not Almighty God, Almighty God is God the father (2) the prince of peace, a prince is a son of a king, so Christ is the son of the most high God,who is the king 👑, when we check the book of Daniel 3:25 Nebuchadnezzar said lo,I see four men loose , walking in the mist of the fire 🔥 and they have no hurt, and the form of the fourth is like the son of God , also in same book of Daniel 7:9 say I beheld till the thrones were cast down,nad and the Ancient of days did sit,whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame and his wheels as burning fire. This is a perfect description of God the father and same Daniel 7:13-14 we read that; I saw in the night vision,and behold,one like the son of man came with the cloud of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him ( Ancient of days) and there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages should serve him, his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed ,this also a perfect description of Jesus Christ, then the new testament mostly the Gospel of John, Jesus never hid the fact that he was sent Matthew 10:40, Mark 9:37, Luke9:48 , John 5:23 ,5:30,8:10 ,6:39 etc The holy Spirit as a personality was not known through out the old testament, holy Spirit in old testament was known to be the power of God,that whenever God decree,holy Spirit brings to past , concerns God and Jesus Christ, they are ONE in purpose, for apostle paul said after all his accomplishment ,he Jesus christ will be subjected to God the father ...... Shalom.
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Ken4Christ: 10:45pm On Apr 21
Michael547:

So are you agreeing that the name of The Father that Jesus claimed to declare in John 17:26 is 'Jesus'?
Yes or no?

The father is not Jesus and Jesus is not the name of the Father. Please, stop bothering me about name and receive salvation.
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:13am On Apr 22
Emusan:

Now you agreed something is wrong somewhere. So what are the possibly things that went wrong? I have a Watchtower statement I'll drop after you answer that question cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

The only thing that went wrong is with people who want to claim that the son was actually praying to himself but deceiving his audience that he was talking to someone else whom he referred to as the father.
JEHOVAH is different from JESUS! cheesy
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:15am On Apr 22
Ken4Christ:

The father is not Jesus and Jesus is not the name of the Father. Please, stop bothering me about name and receive salvation.
But you are bothering others about name if someone says he worship the same God with you you won't agree until he mentions a particular name.
Funny Churchian! cheesy

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Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Emusan(m): 8:41am On Apr 22
MaxInDHouse:
The only thing that went wrong is with people who want to claim that the son was actually praying to himself but deceiving his audience that he was talking to someone else whom he referred to as the father.

At this level, you still don't know that Jesus actually prayed to the Father.

JEHOVAH is different from JESUS! cheesy

The Father is different from Jesus! That has been established years before Russell will even come into the scene.

As it is now, as established so far on this subject:

1. Jesus didn't use the name Jehovah.
2. Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah.
3. NT writers never used the name YHWH based on the manuscripts in our possession today.
4. Any translation that use the Tetragrammaton in the NT made mistake.
5. The only name given by which men will be saved is Jesus Acts 4:12, Rom 10:13, Phil 2:9-10
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Michael547(m): 9:06am On Apr 22
Ken4Christ:


The father is not Jesus and Jesus is not the name of the Father. Please, stop bothering me about name and receive salvation.
Lol you are very cunny....so what is the name of the Father that Jesus claimed to declare in John 17:26 as shown below?
Or was Jesus lying that he declared the name of the Father?
Yes or no?

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Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Janosky: 9:08am On Apr 22
Emusan:


At this level, you still don't know that Jesus actually prayed to the Father.



The Father is different from Jesus! That has been established years before Russell will even come into the scene.

As it is now, as established so far on this subject:

1. Jesus didn't use the name Jehovah.
2. Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah.
3. NT writers never used the name YHWH based on the manuscripts in our possession today.
4. Any translation that use the Tetragrammaton in the NT made mistake.
5. The only name given by which men will be saved is Jesus Acts 4:12, Rom 10:13, Phil 2:9-10

Emusan LYING miscreant.

What a dunce ! grin grin grin grin grin

1. Nobody used the name 'Jesus' while he was on earth.
Everyone used God's name YHWH while his only begotten son walked on earth.

2. Yahweh is NOT more accurate.
Emusan Stop capping your GIBBERISH.
Nobody knows the correct pronunciation of YHWH.

3/4 There is no complete Bible manuscript dating back to before the 1st century.
However, there are fragments of New testament manuscripts with the tetragrammaton YHWH dating back to 1st/2nd century.
This is evidence that God's name was actually in the New Testament manuscripts but was removed by copyists for obvious reasons.

5. John 17:3 & Roman 10:13 (copied from Joel chapter 2) is in your Bible. Put it in your brain. Christ, Paul & John believed that.
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Janosky: 9:11am On Apr 22
Emusan:


Another evidence that Jesus never used the name and that the name isn't important for us Christian today.

The only Name given by which man can be saved is the name Jesus. Acts 4:12; ROM 10:13, Phil 2:9-10



Nobody is talking about Trinity here.

The name YHWH never appeared in the NT.

Dunce cheesy cheesy
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Janosky: 9:14am On Apr 22
Emusan:


No! Was TRANSLATED.



Jehovah was coined because the Four Tetragrammaton can't be pronounced.



Only if you understand that there's different between TRANSLATION and FORMULATION.

Jesus is a translation

Jehovah is a formulation/coined.

Learn learn

Nobody knows the correct pronunciation of Christ Hebrew name.

Emusan go & learn .

cheesy
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Janosky: 9:17am On Apr 22
Emusan:


Is dishonesty to say I'm not answering.



Well, that's according to perverted NWT no other translation has that.

Jesus can't pronounce a name COINED by A Catholic Mork thousands of years later cheesy grin cheesy grin

Emusan LYING miscreant. grin
Mark 12:29 Aramaic Bible & The Passion Translation, NWT.
Emusan LYING miscreant,go and confirm.

When you read John 17:26, would Christ say LORD at Mark 12:29?

John knows that Christ NEVER said LORD @ Mark 12:29.

Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Emusan(m): 9:22am On Apr 22
Janosky:

1. Nobody used the name 'Jesus' while he was on earth.

They can't use it because Jesus is an English word

Everyone used God's name YHWH while his only begotten son walked on earth.

Lying liar!

2. Yahweh is NOT more accurate.
Emusan Stop capping your GIBBERISH.
Nobody knows the correct pronunciation of YHWH.

Yahweh is MORE accurate than Jehovah.

Watchtower attested to this.


3/4 There is no complete Bible manuscript dating back to before the 1st century.
However, there are fragments of New testament manuscripts with the tetragrammaton YHWH dating back to 1st/2nd century.
This is evidence that God's name was actually in the New Testament manuscripts but was removed by copyists for obvious reasons.

Lying again like your father the Devil.

No known NT manuscripts dating back to third century that have the Name not to talk of 1st/2nd centuries.

5. John 17:3 & Roman 10:13 (copied from Joel chapter 2) is in your Bible. Put it in your brain. Christ, Paul & John believed that.

It's not COPIED oponu.

It's quoted and APPLIED to Jesus.

The challenge for you is to provide where Jesus used the name JEHOVAH and where the name Jehovah was used by the early Christians for anything.
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Emusan(m): 9:24am On Apr 22
Janosky:


Emusan LYING miscreant. grin
Mark 12:29 Aramaic Bible & The Passion Translation, NWT.
Emusan LYING miscreant,go and confirm.

When you read John 17:26, would Christ say LORD at Mark 12:29?

John knows that Christ NEVER said LORD @ Mark 12:29.

Christ will say whatever was written in the book He grew up with.

So it's Yahweh Jesus says and not Jehovah cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Janosky: 9:26am On Apr 22
Ken4Christ:


Have you not read where God called Jesus God? Trinity is a mystery beyond human comprehension. But it's a fact.

The passage is explicit. A voice was heard and John turned to see the voice and he saw Jesus.

And when Jesus spoke, he repeated the statement that he is the first and the last. Does that not affirm the Deity of Christ?

Oga you don't believe Revelation 1;1.

Continue deceiving yourself.

cheesy grin
Re: Jesus Is Addressed Also As Lord God Almighty. See Evidence Of Scripture by Janosky: 9:30am On Apr 22
Ken4Christ:


The song they sang was to honour both the Father and the Son. Was there any other song in that passage? The song called both the Father and the Son, Lord God Almighty.

The scripture says that the fullness of God dwells bodily in Jesus.

The FRAUD in your head is not in your Bible's Revelation .

That song NEVER said so in Revelation.

grin

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