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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by chopnaira: 2:17pm On Apr 22
I don't agree with him.

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Danielnicks: 2:18pm On Apr 22
fergie001:


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That's exactly what someone who is enjoying billions of naira every year from federal allocation would say.

Putting your pocket first before the security of a nation. Disgraceful!

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by allthingsgood: 2:18pm On Apr 22
garfield1:


It is better the president alone uses them to witch hunt than for governors to do same.it will be too much for the citizenry to take.eveb the governors have some form of control over the police esp in elections but once they fail in securing their states,they blame it on lack of state policing...

In any case,what we need is community policing or the type of state police that exists in America where each town,settlement or city operates it's own police answerable to the town council led by a mayor and then the state have its own police and the federal have FBI.i think the east has something similar where each town esp anambra has its vigilante service that is answerable to each town union led by the king and the PG.the governor will have little or no control over them except in anambra vigilante service or bakassi boys.i think Nigeria should adopt that method

How will they get paid? No be the same Governor

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by tnerro1(m): 2:18pm On Apr 22
Una no want competition ba😁, me sha , I no mind to join my state police, but I no go gree join NPF

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Sleekfingers: 2:19pm On Apr 22
fergie001:


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When will Nigeria be ripe for state police in 2099?

There is no perfect system in the world. They all developed along the way or over the years .....

Useless country. Full of brainless leaders
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by BigDawsNet: 2:19pm On Apr 22
nairalanda1:
We are not ripe for state police.

Ultimately, the problem is funding for me. All my other objections, I have dismissed them, even the tribalism and religion one. If state police is going to be tribalistic, they will end up losing investors. Bad news. SO, state police is going to work.

But funding is a big problem. A BIG PROBLEM. States that most cannot pay the current mininum wage, talkless new wage...are now going to fund state police. Okay. Either state starts charging everyone tax...which I know Nigerians don't like, or they take loan, and more loan. (Forget federal funding. ).

We too dey like copy other countries. Yes, USA Has state police, and also USA has a diversifed economy with everyone..almost everyone...paying taxes. Not like Nigeria where most of us do not pay tax. Even the one we pay, can only cover 20% of our income. We are not funding our National police force well enough...we spend less than one tenth what New York CITY (Not the state ) spends to police 200 million people. It's a miracle we have not crashed into anarchy by now. Yet we expect the NPF to perform like NYPD. Na magic thinking be that.

If I suggest we should do things like pay tax, remove subsides to find more money, and so forth, people will abuse me. Yet people are here calling for state police that their state cannot fund. Some will even call for regions to come back so that we can have regional police...it's like people do not know why we have states, and no, it is not because of Gowon. State issues started in the first republic...that is why we ended up with Midwestern region...and we would have even gotten middle belt region if not for the 66 coup.

LIke now, Zamfara state is poor, broke and has a massive kidnapping problem and bandit issue. It needs a state police that is well armed, and has things like drones, aeroplanes, tactical gear, good arms, and specialist commando style police. How is it going to be funded? From the state's brokeass funds. Same for kaduna. Lagos needs a proper urban force...HECK, Lagos needs a police force like the NYPD , with funding of 10 billion dollars or more per annum...otherwise it would be ineffective. Borno, we know. Even Anambra and Enugu need a well funded force...with esn. I haven't mentioned fulani herdsmen issues...you need something like a well armed police force AND a well armed specialist SPESTNAZ (google it) type force. Otherwise, wahala go start.

I tell you, unless we are ready to make some tough sacrfices, instead of expecting oil money to cover everything....we can't have state police. God knows, I wish it was otherwise. We never even adequately fund our own police force self...with wretched housing on top.

Are we all ready to pay half our income, including people in villages, and poor city dwellers...in tax, to ensure that we get a well functioning state police. And please, that thing called security vote....e no fit fund am.

Den I believe they should hire more civil defence officers and trained them on special weapons and tactics

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by jiz: 2:19pm On Apr 22
But ripe for state and local problem
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Eriokanmi: 2:20pm On Apr 22
He didn't even highlight the reasons Nigeria wasn't ready for it. Useless and illiterate people.

All they know is collect ęgunję from governors and pocket it. Whenever the men of the underworld strike, they'd be saying their vehicles don't have fuel grin to reach the location

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by CountinBlessins(m): 2:20pm On Apr 22
I expected them to resist this because we all know why grin
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by onojalynk: 2:20pm On Apr 22
Was South West ripe for Amotekun?
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Moroccoguy: 2:21pm On Apr 22
State police will create more avenue for state governor to misbehave, the same way they mess up state electorial commission, tho it will create more employment opportunity but it won't curb the challenges we are facing, my opinion.

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Ten06(m): 2:21pm On Apr 22
And your police are already overwhelmed
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by happney65: 2:22pm On Apr 22
O de ni kuuru fun Oro buruku to soun lenu yen
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by superCleanworks(m): 2:22pm On Apr 22
Yes I support. We are not yet ready.

State police with all this nepotism and tribalism?
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by idahme(m): 2:23pm On Apr 22
Hezzyluv:
Police NP don't want subsidiary atall. grin

They frowned at Civil Defense but it amout to efforts in futility. Na so them frustrated peace Corps sotey the thin died. Now, na state police be their wahala. grin

These politicians called police men aren't serious, go to interior parts of states you will never see a police man anywhere around but that will be sorted out by state police but they will never agree you know why? Funding for federal police which he controls will plummet and attention will go to the state police.
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by spiSeyi: 2:23pm On Apr 22
State police has come to stay, the NPF will loose their relevance soon, and will be less effective just like how Boys scout has become the things of the past in the present day Nigeria grin.
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by DeepSight(m): 2:24pm On Apr 22
nairalanda1:
We are not ripe for state police.

Ultimately, the problem is funding for me. .

Where do you work - public sector or private sector?
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by tishbite43: 2:25pm On Apr 22
DMerciful:
People who have been disturbing Nigeria with restructuring for years! Perhaps, it was all pretense!
Hypocritical lots
They are the problem of this country
After Tinubu, they will start chorusing restructuring, regionalism, state police like mad men

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by DirtyAfonjas: 2:27pm On Apr 22
Hezzyluv:
Police NP don't want subsidiary atall. grin

They frowned at Civil Defense but it amout to efforts in futility. Na so them frustrated peace Corps sotey the thin died. Now, na state police be their wahala. grin

Till tomorrow, civil defense can NEVER EVER be a match to the NIGERIA POLICE FORCE.
civil defense is still a voluntary organisation

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by nairalanda1(m): 2:27pm On Apr 22
DeepSight:


Where do you work - public sector or private sector?

Where do you work...public or private sector?
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Johnjustice: 2:27pm On Apr 22
I think our judiciary is robust enough to entertain state police...this is his opinion, but the truth is, state police is necessary, it's a function of necessity.

Lives are being lost.
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by piriton: 2:28pm On Apr 22
Ododo police will never allow anyone arrest GYB for the next 8years
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by edogu(m): 2:30pm On Apr 22
Supported! Just imagine state police in the hands of people like Yahaya Bello.
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Tareq1105: 2:30pm On Apr 22
franchasofficia:
He is scared of losing his feeding bottle, criminals occupying critical positions.

Anyway, it is not his responsibility to decide for Nigerians.

Unless he is speaking the mind of Lagos Landlord sha undecided

You've forgotten that the Lagos landlord is an advocate of State Police?

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Jagabanarmy: 2:31pm On Apr 22
fergie001:


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Selfish statement!! We need state police now!!
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Obierika(m): 2:35pm On Apr 22
I fully agree with him!
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by PARADIZEPRIEST: 2:36pm On Apr 22
IG IS 1000% CORRECT.
YOU NEED A SOCIETY WITH SANE CITIZENS,WHO ARE WELL FED AND CIVILIZED TO DO STATE POLICE. angry
NAIJA PPL ARE NOT CIVILIZED,COMMON PPL JOIN SOLDIER OR POLICE WORK, HE GO DEY THREATEN CIVILIANS INSTEAD OF PROTRECTING THEM AND ENFORCING THE LAW. angry
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by gulfer: 2:36pm On Apr 22
The death knell has been sounded for the state police, these guys (politicians) are just playing and toying with the emotions of people undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by ElSudani: 2:37pm On Apr 22
nairalanda1:
We are not ripe for state police.

Ultimately, the problem is funding for me. All my other objections, I have dismissed them, even the tribalism and religion one. If state police is going to be tribalistic, they will end up losing investors. Bad news. SO, state police is going to work.

But funding is a big problem. A BIG PROBLEM. States that most cannot pay the current mininum wage, talkless new wage...are now going to fund state police. Okay. Either state starts charging everyone tax...which I know Nigerians don't like, or they take loan, and more loan. (Forget federal funding. ).

We too dey like copy other countries. Yes, USA Has state police, and also USA has a diversifed economy with everyone..almost everyone...paying taxes. Not like Nigeria where most of us do not pay tax. Even the one we pay, can only cover 20% of our income. We are not funding our National police force well enough...we spend less than one tenth what New York CITY (Not the state ) spends to police 200 million people. It's a miracle we have not crashed into anarchy by now. Yet we expect the NPF to perform like NYPD. Na magic thinking be that.

If I suggest we should do things like pay tax, remove subsides to find more money, and so forth, people will abuse me. Yet people are here calling for state police that their state cannot fund. Some will even call for regions to come back so that we can have regional police...it's like people do not know why we have states, and no, it is not because of Gowon. State issues started in the first republic...that is why we ended up with Midwestern region...and we would have even gotten middle belt region if not for the 66 coup.

LIke now, Zamfara state is poor, broke and has a massive kidnapping problem and bandit issue. It needs a state police that is well armed, and has things like drones, aeroplanes, tactical gear, good arms, and specialist commando style police. How is it going to be funded? From the state's brokeass funds. Same for kaduna. Lagos needs a proper urban force...HECK, Lagos needs a police force like the NYPD , with funding of 10 billion dollars or more per annum...otherwise it would be ineffective. Borno, we know. Even Anambra and Enugu need a well funded force...with esn. I haven't mentioned fulani herdsmen issues...you need something like a well armed police force AND a well armed specialist SPESTNAZ (google it) type force. Otherwise, wahala go start.

I tell you, unless we are ready to make some tough sacrfices, instead of expecting oil money to cover everything....we can't have state police. God knows, I wish it was otherwise. We never even adequately fund our own police force self...with wretched housing on top.

Are we all ready to pay half our income, including people in villages, and poor city dwellers...in tax, to ensure that we get a well functioning state police. And please, that thing called security vote....e no fit fund am.

You made some very valid points.

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by ReacherSaidNoth: 2:38pm On Apr 22
With the action of the Kogi State governor it's an understandable position to take. I can imagine a case where elected governors shield criminal elements or intimidate opposition with the state police

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