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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by holaruc(m): 6:24pm On Apr 22
Nigeria is not ripe for state policing because if they do governors will turn it to their puppets else kidnapping and human trafficking and brutality will be worse and well organised

Racoon:
Yet the present day Nigerian police being a flop is the the one bastardizing the system. Same extortionists, bribe-takers, instrument of state terror and involved in extra-judicial killings.
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by mrvitalis(m): 6:38pm On Apr 22
garfield1:


The second Niger bridge which your people benefit from heavily,loko oweto bridge,keffi-makurd- akwanga road,abj-kad, lag-ibadan road and rail,bodo-bonny road...
Thousands benefited from the traders money and market money schemes,from the covid 19 loan,nirsal loan,anchors borrowers scheme...
Under apc,we started massive rice production.the closing of borders has encouraged thousands of businesses,strengthened agriculture,minimum wage is now 33k and will soon increase any moment.the student loan scheme has been debuted to assist indigent students.local manufacturers and businessmen like innoson,Allen onyema,pro Force said fg is their greatest customer and supporter.see how APC govt encouraged dangote refinery and now bua refinery.
There is no benefit of the second niger bridge to igbos... That's a feel good project with no impact zero impact
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by nairalanda1(m): 6:46pm On Apr 22
Kukutenla:

You yarned trash!!

Do have a good evening and Jesus free you from all affliction and keep blessing thee
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by IbeOkehie: 6:47pm On Apr 22
While State Police is the right thing to do, let's not kid ourselves - it's gonna be abused. I think policing should be a primary responsibility of the Local Government Councils, with personnel sourced from the locality only. Democracy would be a necessity to make it work properly. I think.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by MomohMrMoore: 7:03pm On Apr 22
Lol.. but Nigeria is ripe for Banditry, Kidnappers, BokoHaram, Ritual Murdering, Thugery, Cultism etc. The police is a failure, a national embarrassment Thank God, its not up to you, its up to the state and national assemblies.
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by garfield1: 7:13pm On Apr 22
mrvitalis:

There is no benefit of the second niger bridge to igbos... That's a feel good project with no impact zero impact

Ok,the fg will dismantle the two bridges then since the eminent leaders that have been agitating for that bridge since 199) don't know the economic importance

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by mrvitalis(m): 7:18pm On Apr 22
garfield1:


Ok,the fg will dismantle the two bridges then since the eminent leaders that have been agitating for that bridge since 199) don't know the economic importance
Lamp dismantle the bridge, economic power of Onitsha is not tied to the bridge na

The bridge has zero economic benefits zero it's just a feel good project

Dismantle it we would buy ferry and ferry people and cars across... We are igbos na what's there
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Faceonme1443: 8:07pm On Apr 22
Tinubu cannot solve all the problems of Nigeria in 10 months, it's not possible. If the IG supports State Police,it means that he has accepted that the current Police system is not capable to secure Nigerians.
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Meti99(m): 8:08pm On Apr 22
Mr Police, how far has federal police taken us?
State policing remains the solution
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Honestey: 8:11pm On Apr 22
For people like this Nigeria is not yet ripe for anything. Too comfortable with the status quo

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by soccerlite: 8:40pm On Apr 22
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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by soccerlite: 8:42pm On Apr 22
holaruc:
Nigeria is not ripe for state policing because if they do governors will turn it to their puppets else kidnapping and human trafficking and brutality will be worse and well organised


Governors aren't turning federal police to puppets Abi

Mumu

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by garfield1: 8:51pm On Apr 22
mrvitalis:

Lamp dismantle the bridge, economic power of Onitsha is not tied to the bridge na

The bridge has zero economic benefits zero it's just a feel good project

Dismantle it we would buy ferry and ferry people and cars across... We are igbos na what's there

The ministry of trade has just launched 75 bil for smes and another 75 bil for manufacturers with 50 bil for nano traders

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by mrvitalis(m): 8:55pm On Apr 22
garfield1:


The ministry of trade has just launched 75 bil for smes and another 75 bil for manufacturers with 50 bil for nano traders
$75 million dollars for SMEs
And $50 million dollars for nano businesses

But 1 trillion for road that can't break even
$1.2 billion for rail way that can never make profit


And you guys wonder why our GDP went from $565 billion to $252 billion?

You APC guys know nothing about economics
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by garfield1: 8:59pm On Apr 22
mrvitalis:

$75 million dollars for SMEs
And $50 million dollars for nano businesses

But 1 trillion for road that can't break even
$1.2 billion for rail way that can never make profit


And you guys wonder why our GDP went from $565 billion to $252 billion?

You APC guys know nothing about economics

This is a careless talk just the way obi talks.are you aware that the Lagos Cali road is PPP and will mainly be funded by HITECH? The fg counterpart funding will be spread within our budget for 8 years while the 200 bil naira grant is cash readily available?
Obi that knows so much,what did he achieve in anambra

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Shimran(m): 9:02pm On Apr 22
nairalanda1:
We are not ripe for state police.

Ultimately, the problem is funding for me. All my other objections, I have dismissed them, even the tribalism and religion one. If state police is going to be tribalistic, they will end up losing investors. Bad news. SO, state police is going to work.

But funding is a big problem. A BIG PROBLEM. States that most cannot pay the current mininum wage, talkless new wage...are now going to fund state police. Okay. Either state starts charging everyone tax...which I know Nigerians don't like, or they take loan, and more loan. (Forget federal funding. ).

We too dey like copy other countries. Yes, USA Has state police, and also USA has a diversifed economy with everyone..almost everyone...paying taxes. Not like Nigeria where most of us do not pay tax. Even the one we pay, can only cover 20% of our income. We are not funding our National police force well enough...we spend less than one tenth what New York CITY (Not the state ) spends to police 200 million people. It's a miracle we have not crashed into anarchy by now. Yet we expect the NPF to perform like NYPD. Na magic thinking be that.

If I suggest we should do things like pay tax, remove subsides to find more money, and so forth, people will abuse me. Yet people are here calling for state police that their state cannot fund. Some will even call for regions to come back so that we can have regional police...it's like people do not know why we have states, and no, it is not because of Gowon. State issues started in the first republic...that is why we ended up with Midwestern region...and we would have even gotten middle belt region if not for the 66 coup.

LIke now, Zamfara state is poor, broke and has a massive kidnapping problem and bandit issue. It needs a state police that is well armed, and has things like drones, aeroplanes, tactical gear, good arms, and specialist commando style police. How is it going to be funded? From the state's brokeass funds. Same for kaduna. Lagos needs a proper urban force...HECK, Lagos needs a police force like the NYPD , with funding of 10 billion dollars or more per annum...otherwise it would be ineffective. Borno, we know. Even Anambra and Enugu need a well funded force...with esn. I haven't mentioned fulani herdsmen issues...you need something like a well armed police force AND a well armed specialist SPESTNAZ (google it) type force. Otherwise, wahala go start.

I tell you, unless we are ready to make some tough sacrfices, instead of expecting oil money to cover everything....we can't have state police. God knows, I wish it was otherwise. We never even adequately fund our own police force self...with wretched housing on top.

Are we all ready to pay half our income, including people in villages, and poor city dwellers...in tax, to ensure that we get a well functioning state police. And please, that thing called security vote....e no fit fund am.

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by mrvitalis(m): 9:06pm On Apr 22
garfield1:


This is a careless talk just the way obi talks.are you aware that the Lagos Cali road is PPP and will mainly be funded by HITECH? The fg counterpart funding will be spread within our budget for 8 years while the 200 bil naira grant is cash readily available?
Obi that knows so much,what did he achieve in anambra
Lol u want to shift goal post abi

Your money for infrastructure can't be more than your credit facilities for your business community and u want growth

Anambra state is one of the few states in nigeria that's a shining light in every good index of human development
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by garfield1: 9:12pm On Apr 22
mrvitalis:

Lol u want to shift goal post abi

Your money for infrastructure can't be more than your credit facilities for your business community and u want growth

Anambra state is one of the few states in nigeria that's a shining light in every good index of human development

Oga,human development and Infrastructure go hand in hand.theres no rule that says one can't be more than the other.the govt right from 1960 has been dolling out money to businesses,to what end? All the govt needs to do is to create an enabling environment for businesses to thrive by providing security, infrastructure,enacting friendly policies,discouraging importationetc.these financial interventions are done on ad hoc basis and are to be repaid sir.

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by mrvitalis(m): 9:15pm On Apr 22
garfield1:


Oga,human development and Infrastructure go hand in hand.theres no rule that says one can't be more than the other.the govt right from 1960 has been dolling out money to businesses,to what end? All the govt needs to do is to create an enabling environment for businesses to thrive by providing security, infrastructure,enacting friendly policies,discouraging importationetc.these financial interventions are done on ad hoc basis and are to be repaid sir.
To what end? That's what grew your GDP to $565 billion

You stopped for 8 years it falls to $252 billion

Infrastructure that's needed are basic essential infrastructure, health, education, the rest should be built when it's needed not when it's wanted

And most importantly when the people can afford them

Train need people to break even and get well maintained, trains need ticket of $5 to 10 dollars to achieve at... Building a train when your GDP per capita is foolishness
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by garfield1: 9:35pm On Apr 22
mrvitalis:

To what end? That's what grew your GDP to $565 billion

You stopped for 8 years it falls to $252 billion

Infrastructure that's needed are basic essential infrastructure, health, education, the rest should be built when it's needed not when it's wanted

And most importantly when the people can afford them

Train need people to break even and get well maintained, trains need ticket of $5 to 10 dollars to achieve at... Building a train when your GDP per capita is foolishness

Oga road is a basic infrastructure.how will goods be easily transported if there are no good roads? You mean you are not aware that transport cost affects prices of goods? How will people move about easily in bad roads? Are you aware that rail facilitates quicker movement of goods(heavier goods that vehicles can carry)? Have you realized that countries with stable economies and decent GDP have a good transport system including rail?
We can agree that buhari somewhat mismanaged the economy but tinubu is remedying the situation

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by mrvitalis(m): 9:39pm On Apr 22
garfield1:


Oga road is a basic infrastructure.how will goods be easily transported if there are no good roads? You mean you are not aware that transport cost affects prices of goods? How will people move about easily in bad roads? Are you aware that rail facilitates quicker movement of goods(heavier goods that vehicles can carry)? Have you realized that countries with stable economies and decent GDP have a good transport system including rail?
We can agree that buhari somewhat mismanaged the economy but tinubu is remedying the situation
How are the imported goods getting to the buyers

Have any businessman told you road is his top 10 problem?

How can you know the issue of businessman when there is no businessman in his cabinet
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by garfield1: 9:50pm On Apr 22
mrvitalis:

How are the imported goods getting to the buyers

Have any businessman told you road is his top 10 problem?

How can you know the issue of businessman when there is no businessman in his cabinet

Oga,does it not occur to you that if there are good roads from the ports to destination points,goods will be cheaper? Does it not occur to you that if trains are ferrying goods from apapa to Onitsha,prices will go down? How many times did importers complain of the gridlock and bad roads around apapa and surroundings,Benin ore road? Have you forgotten that goods in Lagos are cheaper and when it gets to ss,it becomes costlier because of transport cost and are you not aware that if the roads are smooth,transporters will reduce their fares? Can't you fathom that food roads in the north is a principal reason why goods are cheaper there?
Tinubu himself is a real businessman not a Chinese infatuated trader like your principal.are you aware dapo abiodun and badaru abubakar are top businessmen and notable members of the chamber of commerce? A lot of the politicians you see are top businessmen before venturing into politics.tinubu has been friends with men like elumelu,bua cement,chagoury,indimi,dantata for ages.tinubu was mentored by Abiola who was Nigeria richest at that time.pandora no reach

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by mrvitalis(m): 9:51pm On Apr 22
garfield1:


Oga,does it not occur to you that if there are good roads from the ports to destination points,goods will be cheaper? Does it not occur to you that if trains are ferrying goods from apapa to Onitsha,prices will go down? How many times did importers complain of the gridlock and bad roads around apapa and surroundings,Benin ore road? Have you forgotten that goods in Lagos are cheaper and when it gets to ss,it becomes costlier because of transport cost and are you not aware that if the roads are smooth,transporters will reduce their fares? Can't you fathom that food roads in the north is a principal reason why goods are cheaper there?
Tinubu himself is a real businessman not a Chinese infatuated trader like your principal.are you aware dapo abiodun and badaru abubakar are top businessmen and notable members of the chamber of commerce? A lot of the politicians you see are top businessmen before venturing into politics.tinubu has been friends with men like elumelu,bua cement,indomie,dantata for ages.tinubu was mentored by Abiola who was Nigeria richest at that time.pandora no reach
Obviously you haven't done business before... Transportation cost is less than 5% the cost of a product


Like I said u never do business before
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by babajero(m): 9:55pm On Apr 22
fergie001:


SOURCE
fulanis don dey talk through this one.
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by garfield1: 9:58pm On Apr 22
mrvitalis:

Obviously you haven't done business before... Transportation cost is less than 5% the cost of a product


Like I said u never do business before

Lol,I've been into businesses but maybe not like you but still tinubu is a better leader than your obi...
It is good you agreed that good roads influences cost meaning having good roads is a good thing.it is part of aides to trade.when a govt provides a good platform for businesses to thrive like tinubu is doing,the economy will prosper even if govt doesn't intervene financially.

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by mrvitalis(m): 10:01pm On Apr 22
garfield1:


Lol,I've been into businesses but maybe not like you but still tinubu is a better leader than your obi...
It is good you agreed that good roads influences cost meaning having good roads is a good thing.it is part of aides to trade.when a govt provides a good platform for businesses to thrive like tinubu is doing,the economy will prosper even if govt doesn't intervene financially.
How do you guys think.. Roads are important but there are things government can do that have more impact yhan roads

How u guys can't get this is beyond me
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by garfield1: 10:06pm On Apr 22
mrvitalis:

How do you guys think.. Roads are important but there are things government can do that have more impact yhan roads

How u guys can't get this is beyond me

Oga,the yacht has nothing to do with Tinubu but purely a naval affair.tinubu is doing the right things that obi can't help but admire.no govt in Nigeria history has intervened to help the private sector like this sir.the only thing obi did was to attract breweries he has shares in.fidelity bank had a turnaround for good after obi departed

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by mrvitalis(m): 10:18pm On Apr 22
garfield1:


Oga,the yacht has nothing to do with Tinubu but purely a naval affair.tinubu is doing the right things that obi can't help but admire.no govt in Nigeria history has intervened to help the private sector like this sir.the only thing obi did was to attract breweries he has shares in.fidelity bank had a turnaround for good after obi departed
Are u joking?

Are you for really?

Where in the grave when PDP government gave banks $3 billion plus intervention funds?

Where you in the grave when Nollywood got 500 billion?

Special loan for Nigerian oil industry?

You call $75 million funds SMEs intervention? Lmao APC people and poor mind
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by Freestar: 10:27pm On Apr 22
garfield1:


The state police being advocated here in Nigeria is where the state will have one single police for that state being controlled by the governor.itvis better each settlement get theirs to suit their own peculiarities


Then it is important for the context to be clearly stated so we don't run into more problems than we already have.
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by garfield1: 10:28pm On Apr 22
Freestar:



Then it is important for the context to be clearly stated so we don't run into more problems than we already have.

I agree

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Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by garfield1: 10:32pm On Apr 22
mrvitalis:

Are u joking?

Are you for really?

Where in the grave when PDP government gave banks $3 billion plus intervention funds?

Where you in the grave when Nollywood got 500 billion?

Special loan for Nigerian oil industry?

You call $75 million funds SMEs intervention? Lmao APC people and poor mind

Lol,that was a rarity.less than 5 industries or sectors compared to the quarterly interventions that the APC government has done.over 10 mil Nigerians have benefited from the masses oriented APC facilities compared to the elitist and selective pdp stuffs.all sectors of Nigeria have benefited from the APC govt
Re: Nigeria, not yet ripe For State Police - IGP Egbetokun by mrvitalis(m): 10:36pm On Apr 22
garfield1:


Lol,that was a rarity.less than 5 industries or sectors compared to the quarterly interventions that the APC government has done.over 10 mil Nigerians have benefited from the masses oriented APC facilities compared to the elitist and selective pdp stuffs.all sectors of Nigeria have benefited from the APC govt
10 million people benefited from 5000 ?

Bros abeg this argument is reducing my IQ

You give people 50k , 5k is what you are comparing to majority credit facility given to industry that would create millions of jobs pay back it's loan

If we get $150 billion GDP after tinubu president then we did a fantastic job

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