this baale may spoil wengies plans o

Now Bale and Spurs are getting out of hands

debosky:

Did Wenger have a squad costing over £500m when he crashed out? You don't even know the basics of making logical comparisons.

The fact is that even with a weaker squad at the moment, Arsene has outperformed Mancini in Europe for two years running.

Wenger inherited the best back 4 in English football, mancini didnt get any of those. He rather inherited waste pipes like Corradi, Robinho, Jo Elano so he had to spend

Wenger took over a good team, its like asking why didnt Mourinho spend in Madrid and Inter like he did with Chelsea?

Because in Madrid and Inter he met a loaded team unlike in Chelsea

Wenger took over the best defence in England added quality like CL winner Suker, 1996 3rd WPOTY Bergkamp, 1996 6th WPOTY Kanu Nwankwo, Robert Pires, Sol Campbell, Reyes etc yet couldnt make it past group stages of the CL

Nawao..Robinho na waste pipe now...Almunia will never forget that 'wastepipe'

proudlysports: Nawao..Robinho na waste pipe now...Almunia will never forget that 'wastepipe'

Confirmed waste pipe, Even AC Milan has been trying to offload him to Brasil for a while now, No one wants him. Almunia? that one na keeper?

dayokanu:
Wenger inherited the best back 4 in English football, mancini didnt get any of those. He rather inherited waste pipes like Corradi, Robinho, Jo Elano so he had to spend

in few moments from now, you would beat your chest you know about european football when it's obvious you know nothing. wenger did not inherit the best back four in england - where is this myth coming from? he inherited the best back four of english defenders. man utd's back four as at 96/97 were miles ahead of what arsenal had in store. arsenal weren't even better than newcastle when wenger joined so stop peddling nonsense.

the back four of neville + irwin + pallister + may were stronger than arsenal's. furthermore, even in 98 when arsenal won the league, they lost more games and conceded more goals than man utd. enough of your nonsense theories and even if we assume arsenal's back four were quality - does that necessarily transcend into having a killer squad? stoke can defend better than united, does that mean stoke should be winning the premier league. what was arsenal's final league position in the 3 seasons leading to wenger's arrival?

Wenger took over a good team, its like asking why didnt Mourinho spend in Madrid and Inter like he did with Chelsea?

wenger didn't take over a good team. the top dogs in england pre-96 were man utd, blackburn and newcastle. wenger had to add the continental style of footie to arsenal to achieve results in his first full season at arsenal. until his arrival, arsenal had not won a title in 7 yrs. so explain to us how a team that finished 4th(92), 11th(93), 4th(94), 12th(95), 5th(96) was a strong team....

Because in Madrid and Inter he met a loaded team unlike in Chelsea
Wenger took over the best defence in England added quality like CL winner Suker, 1996 3rd WPOTY Bergkamp, 1996 6th WPOTY Kanu Nwankwo, Robert Pires, Sol Campbell, Reyes etc yet couldnt make it past group stages of the CL

so reyes was an arsenal player when wenger used to have difficulty qualifying for the champions league? this dayokanu is a tool! was kanu an arsenal player in 96? campbell didn't join arsenal till 2001, you laboratory tool!

Obviously you have deficiencies in reading and comprehension

Wenger inherited a very good squad which included the famous back four inherited Dennis Bergkamp 3rd best player in the world

Arsene Wenger bought top quality players when he joined Arsenal and that still didnt make him qualify from the group stages in the CL

Arsenal's success was built on an already stalwart defence, assembled by former manager George Graham and consisted of Tony Adams, Steve Bould, Nigel Winterburn, Lee Dixon and Martin Keown. The defenders contributed to a run of eight consecutive clean sheets between January and March 1998.

What did Mancini inherit that can be compared to this?

Mancini literarily had to demolish the previous team and build his own which won the EPL

Before Wenger Arsenal had won several league titles the most recent in 1991. Were Winners cup Champions in 1994 and runners up in 1995 before Wenger took over in 1996

Tell us Man Citys records before mancini took over

dayokanu: Obviously you have deficiencies in reading and comprehension
Wenger inherited a very good squad which included the famous back four inherited Dennis Bergkamp 3rd best player in the world

sheer idiocy in display - so what were the final positions of arsenal between 92 and 96? surely the famous back four shouldn't have finished in 11th and 12th positions in that period, should they?

Arsene Wenger bought top quality players when he joined Arsenal and that still didnt make him qualify from the group stages in the CL

all english clubs had that deficiency in the 90s - they had just been unbanned from participating in european football. they were at sea as to how to handle continental teams. name one english club that was doing well consistently in the 90s?

What did Mancini inherit that can be compared to this?
Mancini literarily had to demolish the previous team and build his own which won the EPL

that's exactly the point...
mancini's demolition cost half a billion pounds. wenger groomed raw talents and turned them into world class players. grooming takes longer time than buying ready made players.

Before Wenger Arsenal had won several league titles the most recent in 1991. Were Winners cup Champions in 1994 and runners up in 1995 before Wenger took over in 1996

the league position is true strength of a team. any team can bamboozle it's way into cup competitions and win. bradford were runners-up in the capital one cup recently. by your rétarded logic, they must be a strong team for finishing runners-up. you should trade your brains for a plate of porridge.

Tell us Man Citys records before mancini took over

like everton, they had won nothing before mancini but you would be daft to say birmingham(carling cup winners in 2011) are stronger than everton in the same season or swansea are stronger than arsenal that haven't won a pin since 2005. focus on league positions, any team can win a cup competition!

Build his own billion pound team, won the EPL on a stroke of luck on the last day of last season.

Qualified for Champions league on two seasons only to come crashing out group stages. And this is the same pathetic manager that this dudkanu is yapping about here? This is gross !

Between the time Arsenal was in the Doldrums the other English champ Man Utd were qualifying from their group consistently

In 1997 lost semi to BvB, 1998 lost quarters, 1999 won, 2000 lost in Quarters - All these while Arsene couldnt make it out of the groups

Pataki: Build his own billion pound team, won the EPL on a stroke of luck on the last day of last season.

Qualified for Champions league on two seasons only to come crashing out group stages. And this is the same pathetic manager that this dudkanu is yapping about here? This is gross !

WHy havent Monsier Wenger won a spoon by the same stroke of Luck.

Person play 38 games ended top of table and you say na luck. No wonder you be GAYYner. i sure say you go tell us say na luck Bayern take hammer you 7days ago

dayokanu: Between the time Arsenal was in the Doldrums the other English champ Man Utd were qualifying from their group consistently

In 1997 lost semi to BvB, 1998 lost quarters, 1999 won, 2000 lost in Quarters - All these while Arsene couldnt make it out of the groups.

except that fergie had spent more than 10 years at man utd in this period - he has infused his DNA into the team by then while wenger was still sorting out the mechanical players he inherited in those years. apples and oranges! wenger won the league in his full season at arsenal! that achievement trounces whatever mancini has achieved and wenger didn't need half a billion pounds to win a league title!

When monsieur Wenger has a billion pound team to manage, come here and compare notes with Mancini on winning on a stroke of luck.

Dayo stick to analyzing German football and maybe Scottish league (leagues with less than 20 teams) , you are displaying poor knowledge of European footy and its becoming very embarrassing..

Sheikh Mansour would slap you for some of your recent comments about Wenger, If Wenger showed interest in city, Mancini would be sacked the next hour, it would not even enjoy a days debate for the decision to be made..

And please do not remind me Bayern or Scotland play in Europe, i already know that.

Roland17: Dayo stick to analyzing German football and maybe Scottish league (leagues with less than 20 teams) , you are displaying poor knowledge of European footy and its becoming very embarrassing..

Sheikh Mansour would slap you for some of your recent comments about Wenger, If Wenger showed interest in city, Mancini would be sacked the next hour, it would not even enjoy a days debate for the decision to be made..

And please do not remind me Bayern or Scotland play in Europe, i already know that.

dayo is a football notice who likes to talk a good game. wenger has his faults but he's a brilliant manager. if he leaves arsenal today, big clubs like barcelona, real madrid, etc would snap him up.

then again, i think he's somehow guilty of his own success. those league titles he won in 98, 2002 and 2004 got most football fans bugging and they expect him to do the same when his net spend is almost the lowest in the top division.

how's wenger expected to win the league when his rivals outspend him in large proportions. all his talented players have moved on to where they would cop bigger wages. would they have moved on if arsenal can afford their wages?

Roland17: Dayo stick to analyzing German football and maybe Scottish league (leagues with less than 20 teams) , you are displaying poor knowledge of European footy and its becoming very embarrassing..

Sheikh Mansour would slap you for some of your recent comments about Wenger, If Wenger showed interest in city, Mancini would be sacked the next hour, it would not even enjoy a days debate for the decision to be made..

And please do not remind me Bayern or Scotland play in Europe, i already know that.

Poor knowledge that Wenger made knockout stages once in his first 6 seasons at Arsenal? Which many of you didnt know?

Or mancini has won similar number of titles in his 10yr career as Wenger has done in 30yrs?

Or in recent times Mancini has been more succesful than Wenger?

What exactly?

dayo is a football notice who likes to talk a good game

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I do not need a soothsayer to exaggerate how Dayo argues footy with bias.

then again, i think he's somehow guilty of his own success. those league titles he won in 98, 2002 and 2004 got most football fans bugging and they expect him to do the same when his net spend is almost the lowest in the top division.

Wenger's problem is self inflicted by his rigid recruitment policy and youth policy, i have said this before and i would reiterate, if Wenger decides to dump his policy on spending, the drought would end, its not like the Arsenal is broke, Wenger believes he can prove the world wrong by winning trophies with lesser experienced and known players.

Wenger knows he's not Expendable in today's footy, he knows his value in footy and is playing his cards very well.

Roland17: .

I do not need a soothsayer to exaggerate how Dayo argues footy with bias. P

Wenger's problem is self inflicted by his rigid recruitment policy and youth policy, i have said this before and i would reiterate, if Wenger decides to dump his policy on spending, the drought would end, its not like the Arsenal is broke, Wenger believes he can prove the world wrong by winning trophies with lesser experienced and known players.

Wenger knows he's not Expendable in today's footy, he knows his value in footy and is playing his cards very well.

the board is the problem. they love to talk a good game.
after the game against bayern, then went to the media that wenger would be given £150m warchest to buy quality players - they have been doing this for 7 yrs now after any major loss. my problem with wenger is why allow your reputation to be soiled because of some greedy cünts in the board? if arsenal are making money and the board members would rather pocket what should be used to buy quality players then wenger should resign. arsenal don't have money to buy quality players - that's the problem!

Roland17: .

Wenger's problem is self inflicted by his rigid recruitment policy and youth policy

His youth policy na scam! How many decent players has this endless youth policy produced? He buys and resells at a higher price! That is not youth policy

Roland17: .
, i have said this before and i would reiterate, if Wenger decides to dump his policy on spending, the drought would end, its not like the Arsenal is broke, Wenger believes he can prove the world wrong by winning trophies with lesser experienced and known players.

Fa fa fa foul!! The competition has left Wenger behind! Is it his no spending policy that is responsible for not beating Bradford city or Blackburn? Or Birmingham in the League cup!
Wenger knows Arsenal is buttering his bread! He enjoys the stability and fat paycheck and can always blame his trophylessness on lack of funds
If not he would have left long ago!

how come wenger or any arsenal scout never found varane before madrid got him?

mukina2: how come wenger or any arsenal scout never found varane before madrid got him?

Zidane. Thats all i can say.

My two and half cents..
While the board sit fat and make millions and see Arsenal as an investment company and not a football club,Arsene is enjoying a good measure of protection from them when poor results occur while hell bent on his pet project of winning laurels with players he developed or bargain basement buys.
If 70 million abi 100 million was available, Give the gaffer a mandate to spend everything in his quest for trophies or be fired, you will see Wenger dropping this frugal ideas.(he has spent big money on players before...check)
On one hand, the present board is grateful they have a manager like AW who is able to spend peanuts and get them into the money spinning Champs league evry year,ensuring stability of the club.On the other hand, the fans are suffering. Its 8 years now without a trophy and when you are a top club or you have a rich history like Arsenal, changes normally happen.
Unfortunately, there are no changes.The gaffer is still there, funds are promised every year(they aren't spent), our best players leave because they get better wages else where.
This can only continue when your fans remain loyal to a fault, but in this 'internet -fuelled' football world we are in, the fans are beginning to complain.The Board looks to be under severe pressure since the barren season started in 2005.This summer will be crucial for Arsenal as a football club

Sam Nasir in the deep sht we all knew was coming. City is tired of him and are willing to listen to offers for him. Is this the end of his career? One a prince of at the Emirates...

mukina2: how come wenger or any arsenal scout never found varane before madrid got him?

even if Wenger or our Scouts found him, Wenger would still hesitate to sign him..the list is over bloated

HNIC: My two and half cents..
While the board sit fat and make millions and see Arsenal as an investment company and not a football club,Arsene is enjoying a good measure of protection from them when poor results occur while hell bent on his pet project of winning laurels with players he developed or bargain basement buys.
If 70 million abi 100 million was available, Give the gaffer a mandate to spend everything in his quest for trophies or be fired, you will see Wenger dropping this frugal ideas.(he has spent big money on players before...check)
On one hand, the present board is grateful they have a manager like AW who is able to spend peanuts and get them into the money spinning Champs league evry year,ensuring stability of the club.On the other hand, the fans are suffering. Its 8 years now without a trophy and when you are a top club or you have a rich history like Arsenal, changes normally happen.
Unfortunately, there are no changes.The gaffer is still there, funds are promised every year(they aren't spent), our best players leave because they get better wages else where.
This can only continue when your fans remain loyal to a fault, but in this 'internet -fuelled' football world we are in, the fans are beginning to complain.The Board looks to be under severe pressure since the barren season started in 2005.This summer will be crucial for Arsenal as a football club

Big bear hug darling.

HNIC: My two and half cents..
While the board sit fat and make millions and see Arsenal as an investment company and not a football club,Arsene is enjoying a good measure of protection from them when poor results occur while hell bent on his pet project of winning laurels with players he developed or bargain basement buys.
If 70 million abi 100 million was available, Give the gaffer a mandate to spend everything in his quest for trophies or be fired, you will see Wenger dropping this frugal ideas.(he has spent big money on players before...check)
On one hand, the present board is grateful they have a manager like AW who is able to spend peanuts and get them into the money spinning Champs league evry year,ensuring stability of the club.On the other hand, the fans are suffering. Its 8 years now without a trophy and when you are a top club or you have a rich history like Arsenal, changes normally happen.
Unfortunately, there are no changes.The gaffer is still there, funds are promised every year(they aren't spent), our best players leave because they get better wages else where.
This can only continue when your fans remain loyal to a fault, but in this 'internet -fuelled' football world we are in, the fans are beginning to complain.The Board looks to be under severe pressure since the barren season started in 2005.This summer will be crucial for Arsenal as a football club

I coulda sworn someone typed this last season. What has changed apart from diapers on babies?
Arsenal truly need to hit rock bottom (miss out on the UCL) for things to change or by God you would be here sametime next year typing this same thing! Infact you better save it in your notepad or something

mukina2: how come wenger or any arsenal scout never found varane before madrid got him?

Cos he's lost it! His scouting which was the bizness is no longer so

DB10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrQf_voR9LU

^^ Those were the days Arsenal signed players they wanted to sign not players City, United, Barca, Chelsea, Madrid, etc refuse to sign

Good Times

More good times!

we want our Arsenal back

^^^ Don't worry guys, it's in the pipeline. More glory days ahead.