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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by gammarays(m): 5:47pm On Sep 15, 2021
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Arsenal needs an entire overhaul from players to coaching staff

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 7:20pm On Sep 15, 2021
Spy360:

Wenger ball requires technical midfielders with low centre of gravity and positional freedom especially among the front three.

Arteta insists that players maintain their positions. It's ok if you have intelligent runners, and through ball specialists. But lo.


That robotic think would obviously not work on Auba and Odegaard. I think the only person he gives freewill too and its obvious, is ESR.

Meaning that Torriera fits that Wengerball then.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 7:21pm On Sep 15, 2021
Spy360:

I sincerely want him back o. Let's see something different.
He'd settle many matches by halftime. No first half goals this season, despite that firepower?!


We wait.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 9:47pm On Sep 15, 2021
grin

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:58pm On Sep 15, 2021
Jodera:
Who?
Same Haller from west ham that I know??


Abi anoda one?
Jodera you remember when I was calling for Haller that clown scummy dockie said he's not a good player grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:13am On Sep 16, 2021
daveP:
grin
Positional discipline grin grin grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:48pm On Sep 16, 2021
iamoyindamola:

Jodera you remember when I was calling for Haller that clown scummy dockie said he's not a good player grin grin
Lol.. Is it because he scored 4 goals, abi because he's shining for Ajax?? grin. Remember our Perez that scored hat trick against Basel? Lol

All these things happens, it still doesn't make Haller some kind of striker arsenal needs. Not taking anything away from him or his well-taken goals, but not Haller for us abeg.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:48pm On Sep 16, 2021
daveP:
grin
Abeg, wetin happen here, I no understand undecided

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:18pm On Sep 16, 2021
Na that Antony guy you suppose dey talk of sef @oyindamola. Na dat kind of winger we need. First saw that guy in this year's Olympics and now ystdy. Tho, I've not followed him consistently, but the matches I've watched him, mehn the guy dey impress
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 1:34pm On Sep 16, 2021
Jodera:
Na that Antony guy you suppose dey talk of sef @oyindamola. Na dat kind of winger we need. First saw that guy in this year's Olympics and now ystdy. Tho, I've not followed him consistently, but the matches I've watched him, mehn the guy dey impress
Bros Haller is a good CF because he failed in westham like every other CF doesn't make him a bad player
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:38pm On Sep 16, 2021
iamoyindamola:

Bros Haller is a good CF because he failed in westham like every other CF doesn't make him a bad player
Well... It's all opinion at the end of the day. He has so many limitations as a striker for me. Ajax(and Holland) might be a very good place to thrive for his type of skillset but certainly not EPL where the pace is fast (both in thinking and while on the ball). I see him and batshuayi as players in same whatsapp group
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 2:09pm On Sep 16, 2021
Jodera:
Na that Antony guy you suppose dey talk of sef @oyindamola. Na dat kind of winger we need. First saw that guy in this year's Olympics and now ystdy. Tho, I've not followed him consistently, but the matches I've watched him, mehn the guy dey impress
You wont be surprised the entire Arsenal scouts do not know the ANTHONY AND HALLER you guys are monitoring, small time our rivals will pick them up and we begin to cry over missing another stars.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:16pm On Sep 16, 2021
Fkhalifa:

You wont be surprised the entire Arsenal scouts do not know the ANTHONY AND HALLER you guys are monitoring, small time our rivals will pick them up and we begin to cry over missing another stars.
Lol, let's give kudos to arsenal scout a little na.
Na dem scout guendouzi, martinelli, lokonga, tomiyasu and Gabriel. At least dem dey try cheesy grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lush100(m): 3:34pm On Sep 16, 2021
Jodera:
Lol, let's give kudos to arsenal scout a little na.
Na dem scout guendouzi, martinelli, lokonga, tomiyasu and Gabriel. At least dem dey try cheesy grin
.

Msrtinelli was edu connect
Guendouzin was Emery psg connect
Only lokong & Gabriel I can say na scout.
Tomi na panick purchase ala tott scout.

When we are needing good striker, Dem no scout,
Our scouting network is rubbish,
If you are talking about scout,
Look liechester city, westham, Aston Villa and wolves. Even Leeds.
Poor scout; arsenal, tott, Newcastle, everton, Burnley.
Of course, there will always be an exception buy but generally they are poor
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 3:58pm On Sep 16, 2021
Spy360:

Positional discipline grin grin grin
Many more dey. For this one, o say Bravo to Arteta. But it also proves my robotic theory right!!


So freedom to do the unexpected is never given breathing space.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 4:02pm On Sep 16, 2021
Jodera:
Abeg, wetin happen here, I no understand undecided

Arteta-ctics o grin

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 4:22pm On Sep 16, 2021
@Kokane (I have some spare time to type now)

I asked you that question expecting you will mention one or two names so we can analyze. The whole purpose is to let you know that scouting and identifying good players is not that easy especially when we cannot afford established ones.

Three interests have to be met, the buying team/coach need, the seller interest/player evaluation price and the player personal terms. A deal is only struck when all the 3 interests click. Reason you will hear rumour of a team after 100 players and at the end only 3 or 4 players will be signed.

Also some players are good but might not fit into a particular manager's style of play. While some players are like weather, today they are hot and tomorrow they are cold. Only players that have improved and have been tested over time can be termed established and right now, I don't know any well established player that will consider playing for Arsenal. imagine a player like Lukaku, he didn't perform at Chelsea when he 1st came, then went on loan spells at West Brom and Everton, before joining Man U, then went to Inter Milan and now back to Chelsea as an established CF... he definitely will not consider a team like Arsenal for now....until decline set in like we were being asked to buy a declining Coutinho.

I think we should appreciate what we have at the moment, not the best team, but we have one of the youngest talented team that given to a good coach should be competing for all available trophies in few years. Price aside, I cannot fault any of our transfer this season. Only 3 players I really want gone in the present Arsenal Squad: Uncle Kola, Brother Mari and Egbon Xhaka... The rest I believe can still fit in one way or the other depending on the opponent.

My wish right now is for Auba to find his mojo back, this guy was one of the best in Europe just few years ago and for Arteta to remember all the right lessons he learnt from Guardiola else we get a new manager and sign a new striker and I believe we will be fine.

As for me, while I wish, either by crook or luck or by any means possible we make top 6 this season, I have decided not to expect too much from this team under Arteta this season... But come next season either with Arteta getting it right or with a new coach, this team should conveniently be in the top with few more signings.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:34pm On Sep 16, 2021
Fkhalifa:

You wont be surprised the entire Arsenal scouts do not know the ANTHONY AND HALLER you guys are monitoring, small time our rivals will pick them up and we begin to cry over missing another stars.
Wasn't that how we signed Pepe?

He can play, he can play. Now see... Mtchew!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:36pm On Sep 16, 2021
daveP:
Many more dey. For this one, o say Bravo to Arteta. But it also proves my robotic theory right!!


So freedom to do the unexpected is never given breathing space.
Why are you giving kudos to someone that insists on 'form a straight line, hands on your neighbors shoulder'...?

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:41pm On Sep 16, 2021
ObaIgwe1:
@Kokane (I have some spare time to type now)

I asked you that question expecting you will mention one or two names so we can analyze. The whole purpose is to let you know that scouting and identifying good players is not that easy especially when we cannot afford established ones.

Three interests have to be met, the buying team/coach need, the seller interest/player evaluation price and the player personal terms. A deal is only struck when all the 3 interests click. Reason you will hear rumour of a team after 100 players and at the end only 3 or 4 players will be signed.

Also some players are good but might not fit into a particular manager's style of play. While some players are like weather, today they are hot and tomorrow they are cold. Only players that have improved and have been tested over time can be termed established and right now, I don't know any well established player that will consider playing for Arsenal. imagine a player like Lukaku, he didn't perform at Chelsea when he 1st came, then went on loan spells at West Brom and Everton, before joining Man U, then went to Inter Milan and now back to Chelsea as an established CF... he definitely will not consider a team like Arsenal for now....until decline set in like we were being asked to buy a declining Coutinho.

I think we should appreciate what we have at the moment, not the best team, but we have one of the youngest talented team that given to a good coach should be competing for all available trophies in few years. Price aside, I cannot fault any of our transfer this season. Only 3 players I really want gone in the present Arsenal Squad: Uncle Kola, Brother Mari and Egbon Xhaka... The rest I believe can still fit in one way or the other depending on the opponent.

My wish right now is for Auba to find his mojo back, this guy was one of the best in Europe just few years ago and for Arteta to remember all the right lessons he learnt from Guardiola else we get a new manager and sign a new striker and I believe we will be fine.

As for me, while I wish, either by crook or luck or by any means possible we make top 6 this season, I have decided not to expect too much from this team under Arteta this season... But come next season either with Arteta getting it right or with a new coach, this team should conveniently be in the top with few more signings.
Well done to you. This is the kind of analysis I want here. Whether I support your opinion or not, at least they are clear, rational and in line with reality. I hope Kokane to whom it was addressed can follow suit.

I'll like to make an argument for Xhaka, mainly for readers interest. Can you engage?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 4:47pm On Sep 16, 2021
Spy360:

Well done to you. This is the kind of analysis I want here. Whether I support your opinion or not, at least they are clear, rational and in line with reality. I hope Kokane to whom it was addressed can follow suit.

I'll like to make an argument for Xhaka, mainly for readers interest. Can you engage?

Please go ahead. I have time today.

I have read about Xhaka's leadership qualities off field...But for me that leadership should also reflect on the field, like he does for his country. At Arsenal, I rarely see it.

I will like to read your opinion.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:04pm On Sep 16, 2021
ObaIgwe1:


Please go ahead. I have time today.

I have read about Xhaka's leadership qualities off field...But for me that leadership should also reflect on the field, like he does for his country. At Arsenal, I rarely see it.

I will like to read your opinion.
The emboldened is fact. And it should be the concern of fans rather than throwing stones at him. Could it be that the fault is from Arsenal?

Consider that a seasoned coach like Mourinho wanted him in the team and made deliberate effort too. He even claimed that Xhaka is the best player at Arsenal. While that will be going overboard, yet it is worth some consideration.

I put it that Xhaka's inability to perform in the red and white is due to our frailties and poor utilisation of his qualities. Qualities that every manager he has played under acknowledges. Xhaka was in the u17 set that played in Nigeria a couple of years ago and for him to be still active shows his skills are recognised.

Being a player that hardly gets injured, he gets selected more than the likes of Partey, but that I stead of being an advantage becomes an excuse to scapegoat him for our numerous failures. Shouldn't we be blaming the ones that don't get selected?

Towards late last season, we saw Xhaka pair Partey and their partnership was exciting and hopeful. I believe that with a decent partner and tactics, coupled with his leadership skills, Xhaka can be a player we can be proud of. Our voices should rather be that Partey stays fit.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:07pm On Sep 16, 2021
Lush100:
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Msrtinelli was edu connect
Guendouzin was Emery psg connect
Only lokong & Gabriel I can say na scout.
Tomi na panick purchase ala tott scout.

When we are needing good striker, Dem no scout,
Our scouting network is rubbish,
If you are talking about scout,
Look liechester city, westham, Aston Villa and wolves. Even Leeds.
Poor scout; arsenal, tott, Newcastle, everton, Burnley.
Of course, there will always be an exception buy but generally they are poor
Lol.
Who told you martinelli is edu connect? Is it because they're Brazilians? cheesy
Martinelli was watched/recommended by our chief scout then Francis Cagigao(now sacked due to covid palava). He was also instrumental to guen too, and Emery Okayed guen purchase cos they once worked together at PSG. Also, you can't say panic-buy for tomiyasu wen the deal was concluded in the morning. It means they've been watching him since

While I agree that those afformentioned teams you said have good scouts than us ,but at least, arsenal scouts tried in terms of scouting players. We don't need to get 500good youth players, at least 4-5 good players, blend them with the experienced good players we already have and also introduce good youth players from the academy. That's how big clubs or clubs who are aiming to be big do cool
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:12pm On Sep 16, 2021
daveP:


Arteta-ctics o grin
Lol... Mehn! Not impressed with the picture tactics sha, esp the player's positionings.
Is it from Twitter you got the tactical analysis from??

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:18pm On Sep 16, 2021
Spy360:

Wasn't that how we signed Pepe?

He can play, he can play. Now see... Mtchew!
Lol.. Did anybody recommend pepe here even before arsenal signed him?? I'm sure most wanted Zaha before seeing Pepe and we just hoped he performed. Nobody recommended Pepe here, so this your assertion I know no who the bullet was for oo cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lush100(m): 5:20pm On Sep 16, 2021
Bro,
I don't have strength to argue.
Good Scouting to me is when u bring a seemingly unknown young player at very cheap price.
Any connections between player and director of football or coach is a relation to that position.
As far as I am, edu connects martinelli,
Emery guendouzin.
Lokonga /Gabriel are scout purchases.
But let me say you have said it all.
For ease of explanation, high fee purchases are not scouting, I also left out academy even though I know scout do do that too especially abroad purchases.(not contract related)

Jodera:

Lol.
Who told you martinelli is edu connect? Is it because they're Brazilians? cheesy
Martinelli was watched/recommended by our chief scout then Francis Cagigao(now sacked due to covid palava). He was also instrumental to guen too, and Emery Okayed guen purchase cos they once worked together at PSG. Also, you can't say panic-buy for tomiyasu wen the deal was concluded in the morning. It means they've been watching him since

While I agree that those afformentioned teams you said have good scouts than us ,but at least, arsenal scouts tried in terms of scouting players. We don't need to get 500good youth players, at least 4-5 good players, blend them with the experienced good players we already have and also introduce good youth players from the academy. That's how big clubs or clubs who are aiming to be big do cool
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:23pm On Sep 16, 2021
Jodera:
Lol.. Did anybody recommend pepe here even before arsenal signed him?? I'm sure most wanted Zaha before seeing Pepe and we just hoped he performed. Nobody recommended Pepe here, so this your assertion I know no who the bullet was for oo cheesy
I prefer to talk about well established players not prospects from other clubs. Dem done deceive me tire.

I hear say Patino will be listed against Wimbledon AFC.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:26pm On Sep 16, 2021
Jodera:

Lol.
Who told you martinelli is edu connect? Is it because they're Brazilians? cheesy
Martinelli was watched/recommended by our chief scout then Francis Cagigao(now sacked due to covid palava). He was also instrumental to guen too, and Emery Okayed guen purchase cos they once worked together at PSG. Also, you can't say panic-buy for tomiyasu wen the deal was concluded in the morning. It means they've been watching him since

While I agree that those afformentioned teams you said have good scouts than us ,but at least, arsenal scouts tried in terms of scouting players. We don't need to get 500good youth players, at least 4-5 good players, blend them with the experienced good players we already have and also introduce good youth players from the academy. That's how big clubs or clubs who are aiming to be big do cool
I'd rather be giving praises to the Hale End managers- Per Mertesacker. Within the next two seasons we will have some quality additions from there similar to Saka, ESR, Balogun undecided

Patino, Hudchinson, Taylor Hart, Azeez, etc.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:26pm On Sep 16, 2021
Spy360:

Well done to you. This is the kind of analysis I want here. Whether I support your opinion or not, at least they are clear, rational and in line with reality. I hope Kokane to whom it was addressed can follow suit.

I'll like to make an argument for Xhaka, mainly for readers interest. Can you engage?
Long and short is that tho Xhaka is a good player, he's not suited for a club like arsenal. Let's even forget his irrationality (obvious red cards), but his attributes doesn't gel in a team like arsenal. He and jorginho na same attribute, only difference is that he takes more outside the box shot than Jorg. Finish.

In a nutshell, He is just there, and for arsenal to move forward, we need more than "just there" players.

Players like Xhaka, Pepe (if he doesn't improve), lacazette are the kinda players that make arsenal who we are presently. Mediocre and mid table

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:28pm On Sep 16, 2021
Jodera:
Long and short is that tho Xhaka is a good player, he's not suited for a club like arsenal. Let's even forget his irrationality (obvious red cards), but his attributes doesn't gel in a team like arsenal. He and jorginho na same attribute, only difference is that he takes more outside the box shot than Jorg. Finish.

In a nutshell, He is just there, and for arsenal to move forward, we need more than "just there" players.

Players like Xhaka, Pepe (if he doesn't improve), lacazette are the kinda players that make arsenal who we are presently. Mediocre and mid table
Prove to me that he is a 'just there' player as you put it.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:29pm On Sep 16, 2021
Spy360:

I'd rather be giving praises to the Hale End managers- Per Mertesacker. Within the next two seasons we will have some quality additions from there similar to Saka, ESR, Balogun undecided

Patino, Hudchinson, Taylor Hart, Azeez, etc.
True, the extent per considerably improved those guys is impressive. He deserves the praise

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:33pm On Sep 16, 2021
Lush100:
Bro,
I don't have strength to argue.
Good Scouting to me is when u bring a seemingly unknown young player at very cheap price.
Any connections between player and director of football or coach is a relation to that position.
As far as I am, edu connects martinelli,
Emery guendouzin.
Lokonga /Gabriel are scout purchases.
But let me say you have said it all.
For ease of explanation, high fee purchases are not scouting, I also left out academy even though I know scout do do that too especially abroad purchases.(not contract related)

Lol.. The players I mentioned are relatively unknown players na. But I get your point, at least we understand each other on this

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