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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:59pm On Feb 14 |
Spy360:Ok |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 8:15pm On Feb 14 |
mostob:Accurate list for departure. I don't want to think of the Rams departure sha. Dunno why. Add that Thuram guy as incoming. Fantasy incoming so far-Mbappe😂😂😂 Real vivid imagination 2 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 8:50pm On Feb 14 |
daveP:Thuram ke? I don't think so. Mbappe is going to Madrid. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 9:14pm On Feb 14 |
mostob: I don't understand how u people always get angry about players staying out injured . I understand that as a fan it's frustrating to see a good player miss crucial matches due to injury , but when a player is injured and the medical team certify him as being unfit there's u or the player can do about it . An injured player is an injured player. Do u expect an injured Partey to force himself into the starting line-up or what ? The koko is Partey is an elderly man suffering injuries that come with age as an African ; it is what it is . There's nothing anybody can do about it. Even we wey dey play 5-aside set , no be the way our body be 10 years ago e be now . |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 11:16pm On Feb 14 |
mostob:yeah. The OGN guy. Although Fab Ro never tok this one, but some other tabloid, sources are raising doubts about move to Madrid. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 11:17pm On Feb 14 |
Shegzdave:it's not about slack slicing sef. Its just they feel like just picking on. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:06am On Feb 15 |
Spy360:Yeah White is very much underrated and underappreciated with respect to what he brings to this team But While your analysis of different categories of skills in football is beautifully crafted, I don't quite agree with it. 1. In your categories, I believe it should be only two (physical and technical) and that the categories of cerebral should be given to technical cos that's essentially what technical skills is all about (spatial awareness, positioning and movement). 2. You concluded by calling Havertz, Jorginho and White "the brains" of the team. Hmm, We all know that title belongs to Odegaard presently and to some extent Rice. This duo are the ones that's making this system tick cos they involve much in the buildup, control, shape and press of the system, transitioning of attack and understanding the use of space well. Calling them hand and leg or whatever is a great disservice to the work they're doing at arsenal. Take out Odegaard and put Havertz (your brain) in his position and take out Rice and put Jorginho (your brain) in his position and let's see whether this system won't crumble. The only person who can confidently replace Rice in this setup for long is Partey and that's because he also is another brain of the team. Meanwhile the people you termed as Cerebral or the "brain of the team" players are the players that can be easily be replaced without feeling any huge drop in form. Everyone knows this. White for Tomi, Havertz for ESR/Trossard, Jorginho sef na bench player. There's a reason they're called "brains" to start with. 3. I would love to see any article, site or blog (or even videos) where you at least referenced this write-up from, for clearer understanding, cos I've searched and searched and I didn't see any Cerebral skill in any category of skills for footballers. I will be expecting. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 8:15am On Feb 15 |
BlueRayDick:But Partey don overdo. Without kicking the ball, baba don get injured again. Make the guy do fast and comot. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 8:40am On Feb 15 |
mostob: Na elderly man we sign na 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Mandela27: 9:04am On Feb 15 |
Jodera:but the guy is very consistent,one of my favorite |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 9:27am On Feb 15 |
BlueRayDick: |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:35am On Feb 15 |
Mandela27:Yeah, really consistent. And his understanding with Saka is very very good |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Mandela27: 12:53pm On Feb 15 |
Jodera:Yeah very true |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 2:20pm On Feb 15 |
Regardless of the down talks or/and hypes, i believe the next phase is where he singlehandedly begins to make things change for the team, getting tense situations changed and grabbing more spotlight. I dunno if Refs will protect him in return sha. Cos ororo enjoyed that. Salah does too. 1 Like
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 2:25pm On Feb 15 |
Jodera:I even appreciate him more considering the number of epl fullbacks that are in the hospital so far(over 14) The position that has suffered since the switch to modern football is the fullbacks. They're expected to defend, attack, invert, make assists, join setpieces set up and recover on counters, and be in a 3v1 situation where teammates leave them sometimes. Plus they're also playing close to the white line so the consciousness of not conceding throws and cks or foolish passes that will jeopardize the team is all on them. They also don't even shoot screamers and score stunners for reasons I don't get. Yet..... They're also the most likely to get changed positions among defenders Lb or rb to winger, cm dlp, wb 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 3:37pm On Feb 15 |
Mikel Arteta is set for a new contract at Arsenal. His current deal expires in 2025 and the club want to secure his future amid interest from PSG and others. Mikel Arteta is fully focused on his project at the Emirates and doesn’t want any other club. #arsenalfanaticsnews #NorthLondonForever #AFC #Arsenal #COYG |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 3:38pm On Feb 15 |
28-year-old Carlos Cuesta could be tempted by an opportunity to take his first senior role, but is only likely to consider an approach when the season is completed. Several other Championship sides are also thought to have shown an interest in Cuesta taking over in the summer, although Arsenal are believed to be determined to resist any approaches. [@ed_aarons] #afc #arsenalfanaticsnews |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 7:32pm On Feb 15 |
Jodera:I have no issues if you don't accept my idea. I can also say that you were unable to refute them. You always ask for references but when you see them you turn around again to deny them or reject them. The YouTube video below is fourfourtwo (I don't know if you're conversant with the magazine, but they have a strong reputation with Arsenal FC). It's a short video analysing our game with Liverpool. Listen carefully. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPnwo9cY1e8?si=gRnYehytSqCpPT84 |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 9:09am On Feb 16 |
Spy360:Excellent analysis. That Liverpool game was one of Arteta's best from tactical POV. However, TBH, this video didn't categorically states who is cerebral, who is cerebellum and who is medulla oblongata. It is just a match analysis. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:18am On Feb 16 |
daveP:This is really an excellent feat. Saka of ystdy don reach 100g/a. I even read that he's already equalled his g/a of last season and we're already in Feb. Wow!!! This guy just keeps getting better and better. Kudos to him 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:23am On Feb 16 |
daveP:Spot on with your observations. 💯💯 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:52am On Feb 16 |
Spy360:Is the bolded you trying to indirectly tell us you formed those terms from your head yet you want us to just gobble it up because you're the alpha and omega of football? Even people wey dey embark on project, write articles and essays always have references to show yet you couldn't even bring one. Typical you, always forming words and definition of football terms from your head then turn around to accuse me of always rejecting it. NB: Just because Havertz was instrumental in the first goal against Liverpool doesn't make him the "brain" in our team. I've watched that video a day after our win against Liverpool and because of you I have to rewatch it again, no where was cerebral ever mentioned (which was what I asked you to bring). I guess you didn't watch his analysis Vs west ham where he specifically said it's through Odegaard our football flows and it was an in-game decision from Arteta that White have to play the Inverted role just so that Odegaard would be accessible. To put it clearly, Arteta basically have to bring Odegaard into the game for we to break their defensive shape. If you've not watched it, see it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5beivGJWHFc?si=4v65V5EPBhoo_3QD Also, try and watch this too and see how Rice is also the brains behind this team. It also answers why we always need a false 9(in this system) instead of the traditional 9 most of us are always clamouring for here. A traditional 9 won't make this system flow well. It's one of the main reasons arsenal got better when Auba was exiled and it's also one of the main reasons Nketiah isn't seeing match presently again (Jesus, Havertz, Trossard in that order). I'll encourage all of us to watch it if we haven't https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPEJlPKWY84?si=5UEvVbh_JeAYR34f 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:04am On Feb 16 |
mostob:You sef don see him diversionary tactics 2 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 10:24am On Feb 16 |
Spy360:What this analysis impresses on me mostly is we need a pacy finisher in that place. Dazall. Once again, he's very lucky that Saka was there to finish that move. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 10:26am On Feb 16 |
Jodera:Sincerely. Imagine if he wasn't tracked by 2 to 3 shirts. He for pass that number by now. It's over to him to take the UCL by storm and announce himself well to Europe elite competition. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 10:34am On Feb 16 |
Jodera:Your last paragraph is where you're wrong. All the 9s we've been linked to will flourish in the setup. However, not all of them are excellent finisher. Imo, it seems Arteta is anticipating an arrival and is setting up the team to play in that way, even though we also know that he can tweak things to accommodate a 9 he likes that's better than Jesus in box. I'll mention just one-Lautaro. Auba situo is just a bad season with an ego striker doesn't mean we throw the baby with both bath, water and the cot. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:13am On Feb 16 |
daveP:Osimhen and Toney are obvious 9 that drop deep to facilitate build up and still be in the position to score if the needs arises and they're also good at pressing. So yeah, they'll flourish in this system. Especially Osimhen. What I'm talking about is the traditional 9s that these types of attributes aren't their game. Our system will struggle with them . I'm not bad-mouthing Auba, just telling you that the system didn't suit him same way it doesn't suit Nketiah now. They might get the goals but we might not be dominant or winning matches consistently 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 12:49pm On Feb 16 |
Jodera:I was actually expecting his link to discuss more about the whole stuff. Infact, I was ready to learn sef. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:34pm On Feb 16 |
daveP:Kai is terrible with finishing. For all his brilliant off the ball movements and awareness he lacks in that vital aspect. That was as poor as a school boy miss. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:52pm On Feb 16 |
mostob:Actually, I knew he formed all those things from his head especially with those accompanying examples but I just wanted to give him benefits of doubt to prove me wrong. Him no disappoint at all 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 2:57pm On Feb 16 |
Spy360:That's tue more reason coach playing him as CF is wack. If football was 12 men i wouldn't mind having him in any free role on the pitch. What's painful is he's missed 16 chances to bury balls this season. If we didn't win most of those games by others scoring, even you no go wan talk or defend him. But yeah, off the ball. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 3:00pm On Feb 16 |
Jodera:Okay. I get you. Me i just felt like he rushed Auba into it. Someone is used to a system for decade of his career approaching 30 and you want to now change his OT of attacking just like that. Not that he was not scoring o. Golden boot too o. The grace he's giving Kai, he never gave Auba. The ish is no one can determine the depth of a fall off with a manager. That's where Auba really messed up. They don't suit style, yet ya forcing figs to turn apples?? Haba. |
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