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Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by musiwa43: 12:00am On Nov 27, 2011
you can not use nigeria to compare with other countries. nigeria had a bad history. and people have been murdered. Do you see them blow up United nation offices like they did in nigeria. no.   Nigeria tribe is the major problem. We have too many. Nobody really knows the number of tribe in Nigeria. but they put it above 300  to 500,   It has been problem.

take for example when Ojukwu declared the state of biafra.  what the igbos in the nigeria army did was to remove their badges and change it . without caring for the army rule. Does that look like a nation , ,   It is complex. you are not nigerian. so you cant understand. You,, see,  Ihejirika who is making the statement got is job based on the many problem in nigeria. even jonathan goodluck too.   It is complex to explain.


The solution is to break up nigeria, to protect majority of the people.  Ihejirika knows that, I can bet my life on that.  Ihejirika knows that.


John F kennedy once said,    "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."    . what it means is that Peace is inversely proportionals to violent. which you can also say, that violent is inversely proportionals to peace. If you do the maths equation. you will see that anytime , you block change. you block  peace and have violent.

So change and peace are related. For you to have peace , you must have change. If anyone refuse change. what you get is violent. it is pure maths.    So for nigeria to have peace. we need change base on the satellite pictures. But that change will lead to violent. which you have already seen.  with the bombing of the united nation by nigerian.  the only solution is to alter the structure call nigeria. It is not the first time a northern group will fight nigeria govt.   there use to be Maitesine, they are still there. Boko haram is child play, when you compare to the Maitesine. it took 3 years to solve it.   


You ask about yorubas in the army and survey. my brother. the yoruba people have ground rules on this issue. our culture refer to what the satellite pictures show us , that it is abomination to support those who oppress us. and if the nigeria government is oppressing us. our culture demand we treat the nigeria government as enermy. And honestly , you dont want to know how they treat enermy . so you can see the danger in all of this. you can go on youtube and see where they burn people alive.  so imagine how yorubas will treat the nigeria govt. not to talk about yorubas in the army.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by manny4life(m): 12:16am On Nov 27, 2011
Modern warfare CAN NEVER be fought with archaic old weapons, it sure won't happen. That is the difference between United States and Russia; United States have up-to-date weapons ($550+ annual defense budget) to Russia with 1/20th of that amount. If the Nigerian Army are really serious of maintaining peace and unity, they need modern weapons and NOT these old crap. I'm so certain that marched with number of soldiers, militants are more organized and weaponized compared to the military.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by ocelot2006(m): 4:13am On Nov 27, 2011
@ musiwa, I'm afraid you make no sense at all.

By the way, you did mention that the yorubas are being oppressed by the military. Could you please list out instances when that happened? You do know that a Yoruba man is the current Chief of Defence Staff I.e he commands all 3 arms of the Nigerian Armed Forces. And I believe the Chief of Naval Staff is Yoruba too.

By the way, I asked for verifiable proof that the Yorubas in the Army are tired/fed up. You know, a survey you may have done,etc. Yet you talk about satellite images
I never knew you could read peoples thoughts by looking at a satellite image of Nigeria. Huh.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by Beaf: 4:42am On Nov 27, 2011
ocelot2006:

LOL!!! cheesy

The bloody truce was their damn saving grace and ticket out!! Why don't you ask them of the "dreaded camp 6" that was captured after the truce expired? Hey, why don't you ask Ateke Tom to tell you why he was so scared shitless when the JTF began to hunt him and his boys like packs of rats after the siege in PHC. Can forget the NAF's Mi-35 Hind attack helos blowing up your boys' canoes to bits and sending them to hell were they belong. Abi you want to fight the army cheesy ?

LOLZZZ!!!
Most Nigerians can recall the "searches" for the likes of Tompolo and the unfortunate fattening of the local crocs that resulted. In fact, At that time all crocs were headed for the ND! See free food yanfu yanfu! grin
In the meantime, Nigeria's economy rapidly ground to a hult; na begging di boys come remain.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by ocelot2006(m): 4:59am On Nov 27, 2011
Nigeria's economy rapidly came to a halt? Really? The nation's crude oil production output had reduced initially, but they compensated by increasing output from offshore oil fields in Akwa Ibom state.

By the way, you mention the fattening of crocs in the ND. You sure you weren't refering to the bodies of your militant brothers? You know, after those combat sorties by NAF attack helos and Army gunboats with 50 cal MGs blazing, tearing your folks a new one. Ah, good times cheesy
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by Beaf: 5:49am On Nov 27, 2011
ocelot2006:

Nigeria's economy rapidly came to a halt? Really? The nation's crude oil production output had reduced initially, but they compensated by increasing output from offshore oil fields in Akwa Ibom state.

Hmmm! It just seems the World markets never realised that the huge shortfall had been bridged, oil prices shot through the roof as a direct result of the dire shortage of sweet Bonny Light crude.
Sombori should have told them about Akwa Ibom. No?

ocelot2006:

By the way, you mention the fattening of crocs in the ND. You sure you weren't refering to the bodies of your militant brothers? You know, after those combat sorties by NAF attack helos and Army gunboats with 50 cal MGs blazing, tearing your folks a new one. Ah, good times cheesy

No, I'm talking about men trained in the brutal arts of combat, but mortally lost when faced with the murky bowels of the ND creeks. It was croc xmas, bruv!
I'm talking about red-blooded military type males with rippling muscles, reduced to wide-eyed, shivering tearfulness when it became resoundingly clear that orders from above had given them just two choices; the calmly efficient arms of Tompolo or the snapping, grinding horror of the crocodiles jaws. Damn!

Sheer terror results from going into combat with WWII weapons against motivated boys armed with GPS powered high tech gizmo's. Dig?

My brother, the amnesty was a necessary face saver.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by ocelot2006(m): 8:01am On Nov 27, 2011
Did you say GPS powered High Tech gizmos? Oh please, do list out these "gizmos" for me. Do they even know how to use GPS. Your so called militants were only armed with stolen/smugggled ak-47, rusty G-3s, a handful of PKM machine guns, some expired RPGs, and of course your canoes. Can you compare with the army and navy's gunboats heavily armoured and armed with 50Cal machine guns and grenade lunchers, the army's VBL, steyr, and Otokar Cobra APCs, the Navy's Augusta 109 helos, and of course the NAF's Mi-35 attack helos? Face it, your crew were outgunned, and royally bleeped. And believe me, the amnesty was their saving grace. If not, why the hell did they accept it in droves? They shouldve just stayed back in the creeks and keep fighting if they weren't scared. Apparently, they chickened out when the JTF (which btw is just a very small arm of the military) bared its fangs.


Oh btw, I do know about the shortfall in crude oil supply and the subsequent rise in oil prices. Read my previous post again. But due to the problems faced then in Delta, and later Rivers state, production output had increased from the offshore fields in AKS as that part of the region was safe.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by achmed1(m): 10:22am On Nov 27, 2011
@ umar sanda are u nura umar sanda of toyibat comprehensive high school. 8-):@shocked
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by mikepeace(m): 11:26am On Nov 27, 2011
i can not believe that an igbo man is voicing out such a statement, though we should not forget that this was a public statement, it can not really determin his true mind, so lets forgive him. ONE NIGERIA KO ONE NIGERIA NI
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by musiwa43: 1:19pm On Nov 27, 2011
ocelot2006 nigeria army promotion is bias. ethnicity and God father play role in getting promoted. before now. southerners never get promoted in the nigeria army. Even that is the reason , nigeria have all of the important military installation and unit in the north.

The nigeria military is the most bias organization in nigeria in term of promotion. You can ask any military man. many dont get promoted. or their junior get promoted before them because they are from some part of nigeria. I have a picture, of one of the major army officer now. when he was been punished by a senior army officer. now that junior officer is now his senior before he is from one side of nigeria. even when that person have perform more than this other. This is not a story, but a fact.


what I am saying, is that the army have his problem too. there is bias promotion in the nigeria army base on ethnicity and you expect that same people to defend the unity of nigeria. So you can see, nigeria have problem. so what if the nigeria chief is yorubas. does that mean the Yoruba people should take and accept discrimination. The only way for peace is t make change. Without change. You cant have peace. and the structure of the federal republic of Nigeria must be physical alter to have peace. that is the only solution. anything less, I dont see peace in Nigeria.

Without change. there will be no peace. Change bring alone with it peace. An people who refuse change like in the case of the nigeria government and politician will not know peace. to know peace, there must be change to the structure of the shape of Nigeria. if not there will not be peace.


Look you can see a northerner senator they say sponsor boko haram. that should tell you how deep this issue is. If a senator is supporting Boko haram, where do you think northerners in the army stand. I read online that when boko haram is carrying out there operation. Northerners clamp for them on the street. do that look like the people who are ready to remain minority base on satellite pictures. No. Please remove edo,delta and Yorubas. jo,
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by musiwa43: 1:26pm On Nov 27, 2011
take for example there is no functional airforce base with jet in the western niger of Nigeria. No single jet because of bias military policy. does that look like , you have a united military. No single jet.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by ocelot2006(m): 2:24pm On Nov 27, 2011
@ muaiwa, no functional airforce base in the west? Are you sure about that? Well, taking the whole southern region of the country, let's see:

1) All of NAF's C-130 transport planes are based at the NAF airbase in LAGOS.
2) All the G-333 transport planes are based at the NAF Airbase at Illorin
3)All ATR-48 Maritime Patrol aircrafts are located at the NAF airbase in Benin.
4)The MB-332 light attack planes were located at the NAF airbase in Calabar, Cross River state. I must admit that I don't know if they're still there.
5)Most of the Mi-35V and P series Hind attack helicopters, along with all the Bo-105 helicopters are based at the NAF Special Operations Airbase, Port Harcourt, Rivers state.
6)Some of the Alpha Attack jets were to be relocated from the NAF Weapons Training School in Kianji to the same Special Ops Airbase in PH this year.
7)The NAF's helicopter training school with all the new A-190LUHs and Mi-36 Hermit helicopters are all based in Enugu.

Oh btw, the Navy's Airwing, with all the Lynx and some A-109LUH helicopters are all based in LAGOS.

So you see my friend, your argument holds no water.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by ocelot2006(m): 2:33pm On Nov 27, 2011
Regarding army, yes there's the issue of God-fatherism. But your accussation that promotions are based on ethnicity is simply hogwash. Seriously, you REALLY need to drop the pre 1999 mode of thinking. Do you have any idea all the promotion courses officers have to go through from Staff College to NIPSS or War College? These days its based on PERFORMANCE.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by jpphilips(m): 4:19pm On Nov 27, 2011
@ ocelot 2006

You did not answer the question
The young man asked of fighter jets and you answered with military transport junks all non combatant except for a few light helos

I saw in your previous post where you mentioned
Vlc's,steyer, octar abi na wetin as military hardwares during the delta conflict and you shamelessly added Augusta 109
Lol

Pls do nairalanders a favour, list out the capabilities of these hardwares you mentioned above then i will post a picture of the terrain so you can tell us exactly how your boys could utilize them,

You sounded like a fat general drinking cofee at the army headquarters while your boys were slaughtered in droves in the delta.

You dont knw what you are saying a thick mangroove chopper competent for that crises will definitely need a downward thrust aim of less than 45 degrees, a modern Apache will qualify i dont know about that lunch box you called Augusta 109

Till you explain how ur ocotor lol or steyer can fight in a creek of swampy mangroove, i may have other things to tell you.

I told an officer guarding our facility then that the NA needed just 2 serious hardwares for that conflict
A military spec hovercraft with minimum of 50caliber machine guns
And a millitary spec transport boogey to flush those guys, unfortunately your men came with life jackets, AKs and your Augusta 109 lol

Lemme remind you that the honda 300hp patrol boat arrived in the delta in 2010, you can imagine what happened to your boys hitherto at the onset of the crisis.

I am aware you may have gotten the report on how the ND boys hijacked those toys in the delta before the Honda's arrived.

Lastly, about the crack down on tompolo, the main tompolo boys have already accepted Amnesty before the crackdown that alone has weakened his formations also during that time he was more a buisness partner with the military than enemy so i believe he let his guard down.

The buisness i am talking about is the fact that tompolo uses military to escort his bunkery barges,so my dear, enspounge that instance from your success story and brief us from 2005 to 2009 how your lunch box Augusta 109 dropped oil production from 2m bbl/d in 2005 to a paltary 450,000 bbls/d in 2009.

Im neither for the miscreants in the delta nor for your inept millitary but i stood as a discerning mind who watched as events unfolded, those ND boys fu.cked the military that they had no go areas in the delta.

Yaradua salvaged a national disaster.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by hakanai(m): 4:50pm On Nov 27, 2011
Frankly if the Nigerian army were to identify and deal with a treat completely not where 99% percent is supposedly innocent and neutral.Just 0.5 percent is rebellious and fighting within the midst of the 99percent.Which makes it difficult,You will be shocked at the devastating carnage they would deliver.
Liberia and sierra-leone know better when they met the Nigerian armed forces.In the case of freetown don't forget they crushed an army under John coroma with easy.More armed and far organized than the MEND or BH. Today if the MEND or BH guys were to confront them openly and hold an area as there territory with weapons free orders to the Military,guys na Odi go happen instantly.Boys go enter water drown than confront a ruthless drunk/high advancing Nigerian Army.
Militants and BH boys use human shield which makes it a difficult task.That makes a militant with a dane gun lethal to the security.Because the army would have to define friendly or foe,increasing the risk of being attacked before choosing what and how to respond.
Lets say BH or MEND choose a state and say this is my area and pose a security treat,even with the weapons displayed and more they will know where they 4UQ up!!!
Its is also true that the army may witness mutiny/anarchy where an attack seems obviously bias towards a particular region(S).So the COAS and co know that better and it is always part of strategy.So why would you fight with an army that is disgruntled or a quest where you lack support from various quarters.They army will only venture where they are sure there response is understood and widely welcome.Today even military distribution is done to make such orders work fine.Placing southern personnel in the North and Northern personnel in the south.That ensures a repeat of the Ojukwu saga is not simply done.
What most people state here about the army falling apart is actually not easy.Because there bond is far stronger than the average civilian mentality.An Igbo military man could sermon help from a Hausa man in the army where he is in danger and get it against who ever regardless. Its almost and instinct that a fellow military man will respond to a compatriot in harm without minding the opponent.hence our so called unity today.They are far more united than us period.A hausa man will shoot a fellow hausa man without asking because COAS said so.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by aurenflani: 5:20pm On Nov 27, 2011
@jbphilips - u're a joke really! so when t.y. danjuma roled his personnel carrier with their light weapons and took over enugu, only him reached his target right?

the only serious casualty nigerian army suffered was the barrack seige in located in d east and the attempt by the Murtala' contingent to cross d onitsha bridge.

all others were a smooth ride over very scared rebels and their equally scared commanders.

talking about this guy that's saying no artillery barracks in d north as a whole forth, what do you make of NAGOMATSE? THAT IS ONE HELL OF AN ARTILLERY FORMATION EQUIPED WITH SOME OF D MOST MORDERN LONG RANGE MISSILES CAPABLE OF HITTING TARGET 1000 KMS AWAY. THIS IN ADDITION TO GERMAN MADE ARMOURED TANKERS EQUIPED WITH ANTI AIRCRAFT OF HIGH ALTITUDE FLYING CAPABILITIES TO HIT AT 20000FEET ASL WITH SPLITING MISSILES AGAINST MANAVOURING OR REDIRECTING METAL SCRAPS OFF THE ENEMY PLANES.

Speak in terms of what u no as d truth is u know very little.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by Kilode1: 5:30pm On Nov 27, 2011
jp philips:

@ ocelot 2006

You did not answer the question
The young man asked of fighter jets and you answered with military transport junks all non combatant except for a few light helos

I saw in your previous post where you mentioned
Vlc's,steyer, octar abi na wetin as military hardwares during the delta conflict and you shamelessly added Augusta 109
Lol

Pls do nairalanders a favour, list out the capabilities of these hardwares you mentioned above then i will post a picture of the terrain so you can tell us exactly how your boys could utilize them,

You sounded like a fat general drinking cofee at the army headquarters while your boys were slaughtered in droves in the delta.

You dont knw what you are saying a thick mangroove chopper competent for that crises will definitely need a downward thrust aim of less than 45 degrees, a modern Apache will qualify i dont know about that lunch box you called Augusta 109

Till you explain how your ocotor lol or steyer can fight in a creek of swampy mangroove, i may have other things to tell you.

I told an officer guarding our facility then that the NA needed just 2 serious hardwares for that conflict
A military spec hovercraft with minimum of 50caliber machine guns
And a millitary spec transport boogey to flush those guys, unfortunately your men came with life jackets, AKs and your Augusta 109 lol

Lemme remind you that the honda 300hp patrol boat arrived in the delta in 2010, you can imagine what happened to your boys hitherto at the onset of the crisis.

I am aware you may have gotten the report on how the ND boys hijacked those toys in the delta before the Honda's arrived.

Lastly, about the crack down on tompolo, the main tompolo boys have already accepted Amnesty before the crackdown that alone has weakened his formations also during that time he was more a buisness partner with the military than enemy so i believe he let his guard down.

The buisness i am talking about is the fact that tompolo uses military to escort his bunkery barges,so my dear, enspounge that instance from your success story and brief us from 2005 to 2009 how your lunch box Augusta 109 dropped oil production from 2m bbl/d in 2005 to a paltary 450,000 bbls/d in 2009.

Im neither for the miscreants in the delta nor for your inept millitary but i stood as a discerning mind who watched as events unfolded, those ND boys fu.cked the military that they had no go areas in the delta.

Yaradua salvaged a national disaster.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by ocelot2006(m): 5:31pm On Nov 27, 2011
@ jp Phillips

I strongly suggest you READ my previous again. Didn't I mention the MB-332s and the alpha jets? And it's quite funny you called the transport planes junks. You do know that the USAF, USMC', USN, and most western nations use the C-130 and G-333 (C-27 Spartan), don't you?
Yes, I did mention the NAVY's Augusta 109s, but if you had read my previous posts, you would've seen that I placed more emphasis of the on NAF's heavily armed and armoured Mi-35 attack helicopters. Oh btw, I see you mentioned the AH-64 Apache helicopter, right? Without a doubt, it has far more on-board computers, and like every other aircraft has redundant systems, increasing its survivability in battle. But you do know that it spends more time in the maintenance shed than in the air, right? Even the USMC Cobra Attack helo is rated above the Apache and even the Longbow. I suggest you spend far less time on Ace Combat video games and do a lil more research.

With respect to the Otokar Kobras, VBLs, and Steyr, you do know that military Ops against the militants were not restricted to the swamps? although the good ole ass whopping the received in 2007 in PH forced them to scurry back to the swamps like scared rats. And btw, gunboats arrived in 2010?! Dude, really?! And what do you think the army and navy gunboats were armed with? Pea shooters?

One last thing, you did look down on the fire arm used by the army I.e the good ole AK-47. Yes, the rifle isn't as cool looking as the M-16 or M-4 carbine with Eotech scopes and all that. But I wonder why the AK-47 is still ranked the best rifle in world? Hmmmmm. Maybe its because it is far more reliable than your M-4 that jams all the time. Or maybe it fires the larger 7.62mm bullet compared to the smaller 5.56mm, thus causing far more damage. Dunno.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by Kilode1: 5:49pm On Nov 27, 2011
Are we talking about the same oil bunkering Nigerian Army filled with "guards for hire" and their rag tag bunch of poorly trained recruits?

Chest beating about a Nigerian army that can't defend Bakassi is funny indeed. Got their ass whooped by common Cameroninn gendarmes when they were supposedly "battle hardened" from Liberia and Sierra Leone conflict.

I can't beat my chest over a Nigerian Army that has spent the better part of the last 30 years killing Nigerians rather than defending them. Planning greedy empty headed coups to share oil blocks among themselves.

Eff the Nigerian Army a million ways, they can go to Liberia and sierra leone to collect honour and accolades from their admirers and r/a/p/e victims over there. Nansense

Defend Nigeria ko, defend my pocket ni.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by Uchek(m): 7:16pm On Nov 27, 2011
OCELOT 2006: Nigeria's problem is not its multIple tribes. Malaysia, Singapore, Brazil, etc, are also multicultural countries. Yet they've made it, and are now financial hubs and are envied, while we're stupidly killing ourselves here. Our real problem is poor leadership and corruption.

I agree with you totally - our problem is poor leadership and corruption. But the N1 billion question which you have not answered is: Why do we have poor leadership and corruption after 51 years of independence? And why is this poor leadership and corruption more prevalent in some part of the country more than others?
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by ocelot2006(m): 7:46pm On Nov 27, 2011
@ Uchek

Corruption is not more prevalent in some parts of the country than others. It is EVERWHERE. Go to very state in the country and you'll see public office holders looting the treasury and becoming multi-billionaires. It's my belief that we'll be able to resolve the nation's problems once the issue of corruption and lack of accountability are resolved.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by ocelot2006(m): 8:00pm On Nov 27, 2011
@ Kilode?!

No one, including myself said that the Army is perfect. Everyone knows it has its flaws.

BTW, can you please list instances when the Nigerian Military got its ass whooped by the genderms of cameroon? are you refering the same Cameroon that were actually scared of us and viewed us as imperialists? Even the then NAF squadron in Calabar had FAR more planes than the whole Cameroonian Airforce cheesy. Maybe you missed the news where Nigeria VOLUNTARILY handed over the peninsula to Cameroon based on the ICJ ruling that favoured the later. Seriously, spend less time on movies and more time watching the news. You'll learn a lot.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by Kilode1: 8:41pm On Nov 27, 2011
ocelot2006:

@ Kilode?!

No one, including myself said that the Army is perfect. Everyone knows it has its flaws.

BTW, can you please list instances when the Nigerian Military got its Bottom whooped by the genderms of cameroon? are you refering the same Cameroon that were actually scared of us and viewed us as imperialists? Even the then NAF squadron in Calabar had FAR more planes than the whole Cameroonian Airforce cheesy. Maybe you missed the news where Nigeria VOLUNTARILY handed over the peninsula to Cameroon based on the ICJ ruling that favoured the later. Seriously, spend less time on movies and more time watching the news. You'll learn a lot.

I did not start following Nigerian issues on NL. Cameroon Gendarmes whooped the behinds of our incompetent, greedy corruption battered army in the 90's to 2000s, till we gave up Bakassi.

They were whooping their behind before Interrnet arrived in Nigeria, you can google around for some evidence, I was alive then and followed it keenly in the print media.

I see nothing to praise about the activities of an Oil Bunkering Army filled with criminals in uniform, An army with no sense of honor or patriotism, an army that has bought nothing but pain and greed fueled misrule to our people.

The Nigerian Army and their PR agents can wax lyrical about their exploits in Liberia and outside Nigeria, but when it comes to defending Nigerians at the border or even inside the border, they are a failure of immeasurable proportions.

I see nothing to celebrate bro.


Read this
http://www.japss.org/upload/10._Nicholas%5B1%5D.pdf
In 1992-1993, the Cameroon government continued with aggression against Nigerians by openly killing some Nigerian civilians in Cameroon during the time when Anglophones demanded their autonomy from the Francophone’s. At this time, some Nigerians were even ousted from Cameroon as the harassing tax-drives went on.
From January of 1994 to May of 1996, border clashes between Cameroon military personal and the Nigeria military continued to occur, this time on a more serious manner.

By the 6th of May 1996, diplomatic representations reported that over fifty Nigerian soldiers had been killed and some taken to prisons in Cameroon. Although Nigeria is much bigger in population and military size, it is said that Cameroon did not have any casualties in the battle. (NY Time, May 7th 1996, p. 5)

The last paragraph is very instructive if you read it carefully. You might need to drop that Nintendo pad and do some reading  undecided

I'm not in anyway excited about the thuggish Nigerian Army, there are many things to celebrate about my country, this rag tag army of oppressors and conniving looters are not on that list at all.

I bet the Nigerian Military is busy protecting oil bunkerers and looters of our commonwealth as I type  undecided
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by musiwa43: 9:01pm On Nov 27, 2011
ocelot2006 you make me laugh. so transport plane can stop someone who want to bomb the skyscrapers in lagos.  No,  Now what is the nigeria military protecting in Markudi or kano. There is no skyscraper to protect in markudi that you have the fighter jet in. That shows you stupidity.

how can transport palne stop a fighter jet. What are fighter jet doing in markudi or kano,  Nothing. Go to any airforce in the world.

this is what they use fighter jet to protect. skyscapper. there is no skyscapper in markudi. So ethnic hate. is your answer.


Now Imagine some buy one of this old russian jet and come and bomb fashola office or Mohammed ahmed of in ilorin. are you going to use transport plane to stop it.   what it tell you, is that any country or person can destroy nigeria economy. because nigeria economy lay in lagos and its seaport. and economy goes from the sea to the north everywhere. so if you dont protect lagos , you are a silly govt.

Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by member479760: 5:06am On Nov 28, 2011
why should a reasonable person demonstrate if GEJ is assassinate today? with him, no good road, no health service, no education, no electricity, no water and everything is no. then why? the guy is just worthless like any beggar on the street.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by Beaf: 5:21am On Nov 28, 2011
nakedall:

why should a reasonable person demonstrate if GEJ is assassinate today? with him, no good road, no health service, no education, no electricity, no water and everything is no. then why? the guy is just worthless like any beggar on the street.

This is an example of how to practice talking crap.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by KnowAll(m): 12:38pm On Nov 28, 2011
Double-speaking armed forces, while the Chief of Army Staff was busy boasting in Benin about the army’s exploits and determination, Boko Haram was busy doing what they know best in the Governor’s home Town of Geidam in Yobe State. If a State Governor’s home town can suffer such a ‘fate a acompli’ what hopes does the general populace’s Towns, Cities and Villages have.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by Pain(m): 7:12pm On Nov 28, 2011
Those of you who stand here shamelessly to defend the Nigerian Military are only displaying your ignorance or the depth of your delusion.
The Nigerian Army has always been full of barks and less bite. I know this because I was once in it too(basically due to parental pressure).

The very divisions that fostered the callous events of January/July 1966 is still inherent in the NA today. There are deep rooted ethnic divisions and mistrust still existing till today. With a weak President who does not even realize that he is the Commander in Chief, a repeat of history is not far fetched. Ask a common soldier whom he respects between Good Luck vs the CDS? Your guess is as good as mine!
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by jpphilips(m): 10:56am On Nov 29, 2011
I strongly suggest you READ my previous again. Didn't I mention the MB-332s and the alpha jets? And it's quite funny you called the transport planes junks. You do know that the USAF, USMC', USN, and most western nations use the C-130 and G-333 (C-27 Spartan), don't you?



Of course, i read your post carefully before responding to it, no one is in doubt whether the USA is using the c-130 or not but the last time i checked they use the C 130-j aka super Hercules which is far more sophisticated than those barrow the NA is using.

part of the innovation is the fact that the Super Hercules can utilize short runways in landing and taking off which your NA truck (C-130) cannot and a whole lot, i also think that small navy carriers can transport the modern Hercules doubt if it is applicable to NA's and please let the name not deceive you,

Volkswagen beetle and volkswagen Toureg no be mate simply because na volkswagen make am. furthermore my emphasis on calling them junks was not to undermine their military importance but simply because i don't see how relevant it is in the ND crisis.

i purposely ignored your MB 322s because they were very few about 2 or so in the delta which some senior officers were guarding themselves with as a result not all of them saw combat.




Yes, I did mention the NAVY's Augusta 109s, but if you had read my previous posts, you would've seen that I placed more emphasis of the on NAF's heavily armed and armoured Mi-35 attack helicopters. Oh btw, I see you mentioned the AH-64 Apache helicopter, right? Without a doubt, it has far more on-board computers, and like every other aircraft has redundant systems, increasing its survivability in battle. But you do know that it spends more time in the maintenance shed than in the air, right? Even the USMC Cobra Attack helo is rated above the Apache and even the Longbow. I suggest you spend far less time on Ace Combat video games and do a lil more research.


well, since you referenced the fact that AH-64 Apache was the Man for the job and you brought Augusta 109 to the delta, guess you never wanted to use them in the first place. So you now understand why i referred to it as Lunch boxes lol



With respect to the Otokar Kobras, VBLs, and Steyr, you do know that military Ops against the militants were not restricted to the swamps? although the good ole Bottom whopping the received in 2007 in PH forced them to scurry back to the swamps like scared rats. And btw, gunboats arrived in 2010?! Dude, really?! And what do you think the army and navy gunboats were armed with? Pea shooters?



ok! i will continue responding to your post cos you ve got some humor,

the last time i checked apart from a few on-land offensives at buguma and Abonnema water fronts and perhaps a few zone in warri, i dont see how your statement above is correct.

Most of the militant strong camps were in the creeks, talk about Ateke's alakiri camp and so many others of its like even in BY. now justify mobilizing your cherished Otokar and cobras to green zones while the red zones are left to fend for itself.

i made mention of the 250 & 300hp Honda engine Gun boat and i said it came last year to the creek unless you have a counter proof no need to argue, the Gun boat you had abinitio are easily hijacked from the military because it is poorly streamlined and maneuverability is very poor

brother if you have ever seen these men in combat you will feel sorry for the NA, I referenced the Honda cos immediately it arrived outside the number it came which is commendable, it equally proved efficient, maneuvering was OK and those 800hp engines were no joke for the chase.
trust me it did a good job except that it came very late when the whole action was over.


One last thing, you did look down on the fire arm used by the army I.e the good ole AK-47. Yes, the rifle isn't as cool looking as the M-16 or M-4 carbine with Eotech scopes and all that. But I wonder why the AK-47 is still ranked the best rifle in world? Hmmmmm. Maybe its because it is far more reliable than your M-4 that jams all the time. Or maybe it fires the larger 7.62mm bullet compared to the smaller 5.56mm, thus causing far more damage. Dunno.


guess the above wasn't for me because we already have pics above of what the "boys" hand held riffles are.
picture speaks louder than a billion words grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by jpphilips(m): 12:08pm On Nov 29, 2011
Frankly if the Nigerian army were to identify and deal with a treat completely not where 99% percent is supposedly innocent and neutral.Just 0.5 percent is rebellious and fighting within the midst of the 99percent.Which makes it difficult,You will be shocked at the devastating carnage they would deliver.
   


U simply love to celebrate incompetence, bro, we will wait till there is an all out assault before we acknowledge their ineptitude abi? you are a joke

the army has divisions which trains and specializes in different warfare scenarios. if the responsible division fails then, failure is failure.


Liberia and sierra-leone know better when they met the Nigerian armed forces.In the case of freetown don't forget they crushed an army under John coroma with easy.More armed and far organized than the MEND or BH. Today if the MEND or BH guys were to confront them openly and hold an area as there territory with weapons free orders to the Military,guys na Odi go happen instantly.Boys go enter water drown than confront a ruthless drunk/high advancing Nigerian Army.
   Militants and BH boys use human shield which makes it a difficult task.That makes a militant with a dane gun lethal to the security.Because the army would have to define friendly or foe,increasing the risk of being attacked before choosing what and how to respond.



another justification for total incompetence, i have read a witness testimony from Freetown who spoke extensively on the NA's successes all he emphasized was they have large numbers just kill as much as you can they wont finish; is it not what fela calls Zombie?

you seriously want to compare MEND with those sierra leonean child soldiers? you are funny
if children could hold them to ransom for 8yrs then i wonder what MEND could have done?
see the people that disgraced us in Liberia; this group is called the West side boys they are the reason ECOMOG advance and retreat in Freetown

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overall commander was mere 22yrs old foday kallay

see

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Lets say BH or MEND choose a state and say this is my area and pose a security treat,even with the weapons displayed and more they will know where they 4UQ up!!!
     Its is also true that the army may witness mutiny/anarchy where an attack seems obviously bias towards a particular region(S).So the COAS and co know that better and it is always part of strategy.So why would you fight with an army that is disgruntled or a quest where you lack support from various quarters.They army will only venture where they are sure there response is understood and widely welcome.Today even military distribution is done to make such orders work fine.Placing southern personnel in the North and Northern personnel in the south.That ensures a repeat of the Ojukwu saga is not simply done.
   


I felt sorry for you on this one because US never said they wished Al quaeda were all women neither did bush pray he sleeps and wakes with the news of Osama BIn ladden lying n.aked in front of capitol hill

MEND are who they are same as Boko haram deal with it you are Army not Scout.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by Riot5000: 4:41am On Jan 11, 2012
YEP! IHEJIRIKA, DON'T BE STUPID LIKE AGUIYI IRONSI WAS.
Sorround yourself with TRUSTWORTHY people, YOUR PEOPLE.
TY DANJUMA is still alive and can repeat.
ONE NIGERIA is a FARCE.
Re: Army Ready To Defend Unity Of Nigeria – Ihejirika by Riot5000: 4:44am On Jan 11, 2012
IHEJIRIKA, REMEMBER IRONSI.
One Nigeria is a FARCE.

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