Nchara:

Cyberg (and others):

Just wondering what your concern is with this thread?
You are not MASSOB
You are not Igbo
What is your problem here, if I may ask?

CyberG:

No problems and in fact commended it. Check comment on page 2 in case you missed it. The only question I asked about the post was phantom claims of "Genocide" which is was injected an angle to the debate. BTW, this has nothing to do with tribes and tribalism as per your other allusions.

One_Naira:

You are just finding this out today? Open a thread and I mean any thread and just mention the word Igbo, watch as some Yoruba will bring Biafra, Lagos, Black scorpion, etc that thread in less than a day. I don't pay them mind anymore, I don't get why some Igbo still do.

igbo boy:

listen small boy, i dont care if your label for me is "tribalist" , one thing you should know i wear my igboness very very well, oshimili boy in the building  

ok no tribal insults like you insist,

Ok on to your questions (even though they are dumb because the answers are evident and you know the answer to all the questions you just asked)
1) The other party to the war were largely other Nigerians (of non-igbo, non old eastern region people)
2) The result? come on man, if you google oshimili it will tell you it is in Nigeria, that should answer your question about the result of the war, Outcomes

for me to actually debate you properly where are you from then we can have a go,  

CyberG:

Here is a somewhat more detailed general education for you about the origins of genocide and the propaganda that is mouthed by a lot of people. There is a saying that when you REPEAT A LIE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IT BEGINS TO SEEM AS TRUTH. This lie has been debunked for so long and you can imagine that in a 100 years, there would still be more people who will find out the truth themselves. Now read, patiently and I have highlighted most of the posting for less patient readers:

Ugwumba:

EzeUche, if you ignore him, he cannot continue much more. He is trying to goad you into a response that he can continue to bite on. IGNORE HIM, and he will be forced to leave.

Ugwumba:

CyberG, please explain how Uwazurike's succession to Ojukwu concerns you? Very soon, you will start another 'tribal' discourse here.


Okay, it is a lie - there was no mass killing of the Ibo. Happy now? Find another topic to draw attention to yourself.

Ugwumba:

EzeUche, if you ignore him, he cannot continue much more. He is trying to goad you into a response that he can continue to bite on. IGNORE HIM, and he will be forced to leave.

CyberG:

Read my post again and you may want to edit this one (and I will do the same). You will see I didn't register here yesterday and do you think I will be forced to leave? Do you know that Ezeuche is one of the most ardent and worst tribalists / racists / bigots on NLand and were he born into a different race, he will find it of no consequence to dispatch you to your grave based only on race?

CyberG:

Like I mentioned, it's okay to wear whatever toga you like but NOT every Igbo person or individual will agree with you and this you must accept without turning to insults. I like that you choose to respond without tribal insults.

1. Yes. It depends though on who you define as non old eastern region people because it is on record that other minority tribes in the old eastern regions actually fought against Biafra. I can furnish you with references and a lot are on this NL already. For example, when the biafran army retreated from Port Harcourt, they committed atrocities against the local population because they felt rejected and betrayed.

2. The outcome of this was is not elusive to me or to anyone. The point is you claimed that other peoples of Nigeria are not battle tested, as you will agree is a lie as biafra lost the war to the same people you claimed are not battle tested. Apparently if a side lost a fight against another, how can the person who lost still claim the opponent was not battle tested?? You see the logic?

igbo boy:

1. cyberG who are the PH locals? Is PH (and Present day rivers made up of one ethnic group?) FYI my mom is from Rivers, I am not from "present day east as it is referred to in Nigeria today" ok,

PH, of course, comprises of more than one ethnic group: Abua, Andoni, Ekpeye, Engenni, Etche, lbani , lkwerre, Kalabari, Ndoni, Ogba, Okrika, etc.


2. No i dont see the logic, Attache attache na im u dey define here, Look at the begining of the war "most" of the then old eastern people where either with Biafra or where neutral, after the fall of these peripheral communities they either remained neutral or joined the Nigerian side!!duh with the threat of extermination by the Nigerian force (like the massacre in Delta North communities) and promises of carving out for them a region for them outside of igbo influence why wouldnt they?

[b]The logic is self explanatory: the people who you fought and lost were from other tribes in Nigeria, hence they are BATTLE-TESTED! Except you wish to contend that until all the soldiers of one tribe belong to a particular division only, fought and won then they become battle tested and otherwise, they are not. This of course would be an unprecedented attempt to push a bizarre point of view. Some of the more effective divisions and renowned commanders were from particular tribes and yet they were not battle-tested? One more thing which you should consider: It is highly commendable to blend almost totally fresh recruits, with diverse backgrounds and tribes into an effective fighting force and win than take an homogenous army. Think about that.

I should also fail not to comment that, you being a young man now, have nothing on people far older than you that made a decision to be on one side against another on a promise of owning their land, their state and some measure of control. At the beginning, was the approval of the people sought before being co-opted into the war because if it was, then you could say they flip-flopped but their decision was NEVER sought to war! "Duh" is not a compliment to those people and they are well within their rights to make any decision and live with the consequences. In the final analysis, the events and records of what happened during and after the war does not show that they were neutral or fought for biafra. Most people including the Mid West was neutral until the war was under-way and it became clear what the future held with biafran incursion across the Niger. Otherwise, if they were so cozy with the biafrans, and were merely influenced by the offer of their own states as alluded to previously, why were they attacked when the biafrans were forced to leave? Why did they not quickly and gladly return back all properties on their land back to the Igbos after the war?[/b]

Now the war was then carried out mostly by igbos, We all know who did most of the fighting on the Nigerian side (and is not these your so called PH locals).

I never said or mentioned that PH locals did most of the fighting. Please read again and if I made any such statement, I will edit it right away.

MEND is mostly Ijaw (yes i said mostly ijaw you would hardly see an urhobo, isoko, akwa ibom, igbo, itsekiri, efik bini man etc in MEND), BH is mostly hausa/fulani  so my point remain that these are the only battle tested group in Nigeria,

You are still wrong to say that some group is the only battle tested in Nigeria! There are groups that have fought battles for 100s of years before the biafran war with the most modern weapons of their time, does it mean they are still not battle tested? In modern times, several Nigerian soldiers of different tribes fought in Burma, Congo, the Civil War and then Liberia. Does that mean they are still not battle-tested until they fight on ethnic and tribal grounds in support of a shared belief? Abeg, don't demean any of this people for if you saw any of these people in the heat of battle, then you will know if you are even riot-tested! Have you stared down the barrel of the gun pointed at your face before? Be respectful!


You know I am igbo so what the hell are you? are you trying to hide under a cloak? Reveal your ethnicity let me shame the devil, #NwaOshimilideyhereso

I politely decline any invitation to discussion about tribes. I can already read all your insults and desire to engage in a tribal fist-cuff. I advise this is not necessary and your best bet to shaming the devil is to get off hatred for other humans on the basis of their tribe and race.

CyberG:

igbo boy:

Based on your poosie move not to state what your ethnicity is our debate has been effectively cancelled, why hide under a cloak are you scared I will dissect you?

And please I am from Delta State which was part of the old Midwest (I cant speak for all midwestern igbos but i know 100% my people where pro biafra) so dont go here blabbing as if igbos are only found in the East,

I wont respond to any further posts from you until you lay down what set you claim fool (as in ethnicity) then we can be debating on an equal playing field,

Anuofia am out

CyberG:

My previous post to Nchara applies. In case you are not aware, a lot of Igbos do not necessarily share your viewpoints and that's okay but no need to think that they are after you or some tribal BS. See my first post here and see I was basically asking a question which brought about a debate. I only ask that you acquit yourself as a real man with intellectual capacity and respond without going down into the gutter to turn to insult, abuse and tribalism.

One_Naira:

Did I insult you? Did I in anyway argue or attacked you on this thread? If you want to test what a real man is then reread my advise to you.