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| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by InvertedHammer: 12:56am On Mar 03, 2025 |
DeOTR:/ Alright Deputy Jesus. Extend my greeting to the angels bc evidently you dine with them everyday. / |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by pneumatikos: 1:10am On Mar 03, 2025 |
cutecommend:You seem to contradict yourself. Take an open mind and study scriptures for yourself. You said "It is only Jesus Christ that takes one to heaven. If you are morally upright without sin and yet do not accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal Saviour, you cannot make heaven." How can one be morally upright without sin and yet if he does not accept Jesus he is going to hell. Can you see your contradiction? So what role does accepting Jesus Christ does in the believer if truly his morality is not enough. So why then do you emphasize the last state of a man before the death as the criteria for making heaven. Is that not contradictory? They asked Jesus what must they do to do the works of God, but this is what he says. According to the Bible, in John 6:28-29, Jesus states that "the work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent," meaning that the primary way to "do the works of God" is to believe in Jesus Christ. Yet you look at light the sacrifice of Jesus and says a man's last state is what determines his salvation. Many so called holiness preachers will be shocked on that day that they do not actually believe in Jesus but rather in their own righteousness and holiness. How many people think they are on their way to heaven because they have set in their minds their own standard for righteousness and holiness and has limited them to a set of rules and regulations. You better cast all your hope on him and truly believe that Christ's death and resurrection is more than enough for you and any other addition is another gospel and it's false. It's either you believe that Jesus's sacrifice is enough for you or not. The choice remains yours. I took my time to study during COVID 19, during the lock down and truly I am scared at many who think they are holy and righteous because they keep a set of moral rules. Repent (change your mind that Christ is enough and more than enough). I can hear buts, "are you saying we should continue in sin?" If you ask this very question then you truly do not understand the gospel. I rest my case. |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 3:33pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
emperor4love:Does the Bible verse that I quoted say that hell is a place of torment? |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 3:34pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
Lovelyflower:What is morality, and Who has the right to decide morality? |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 3:35pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
ichuka:Is "Jesus" the name of the Father according to John 17:26? Yes or no? |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 3:36pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
justmondris:So you agree that good and bad people go to hell? |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by ichuka(m): 5:16pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:Dude rest abeg |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 7:08pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
ichuka:🤣🤣🤣baba answer no run. Is "Jesus" the name of the Father according to John 17:26? Yes or no? |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by mamoh2k3: 7:45pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
Even Jesus will queue behinde the last prophet of God. DeOTR: |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:56pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
jchioma:God never mentioned a place of torment in the beginning it's either the sinner dies or lives. So the dead has no further case to answer because their death writes-off their sins! Romans 6:7 |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:58pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
mozona:Nothing more death ends all sinners! Romans 6:7 |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by DeOTR: 8:15pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
mamoh2k3:Definitely not a dead prophet and a false one at that. Allah is not the same God Jesus called His FATHER. |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by ichuka(m): 10:16pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:What's the name of the father that u know, name it |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by jchioma: 10:26pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:But since in reality everyone dies, does that make everyone a sinner? Another question that bothers me is if heaven and earth shall pass away, where does that leave us? Thanks for your clarifications. |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 10:40pm On Mar 03, 2025 |
ichuka:I don't know. Kindly answer the question. Is "Jesus" the name of the Father according to John 17:26? Yes or no? |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:17am On Mar 04, 2025*. Modified: 8:38am On Mar 04, 2025 |
jchioma:YES we are all sinners {Romans 3:23} the term Heaven and Earth that will pass away is an irony God has promised long ago that the earth will remain forever {Genesis 8:21-22; Psalms 78:69; 104:5; 119:90; Ecclesiastes 1:4} so the Heavens and Earth to pass away are evil rulers who are like heavens above their subjects and the earth to pass away are their evil subjects all ruining the planet with their evil deeds: For they deliberately ignore this fact, that long ago there were heavens and an earth standing firmly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was flooded with water. But by the same word the heavens and the earth that now exist are reserved for fire and are being kept until the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly people. 2Peter 3:5-7 Highlighted in blue: is it the heavens and earth that was destroyed due to God's anger in Noah's day or evildoers known as UNGODLY PEOPLE? |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by StillDtruth: 7:38am On Mar 04, 2025 |
immaculatesense:This is where I get to remind you of Samuel's error. Remember he saw one of David's brothers as good and as acceptable but God answered him "No". So, this is where you I remind you again that God Said "His thoughts are not your thoughts and His Ways, not your Ways" Thus, whom you call honourable are often guilty of secret sins eg adultery, sleeping with father's wife, or brothers wife, murder etc Then, lastly, where in the bible do you see anyone convicted because "they did not believe"? Was it Noah's world? Or Pharaoh over Abram's wife or Sodom and Gomorrah? Etc Did you not read that man is condemned because he has done evil? |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by StillDtruth: 7:52am On Mar 04, 2025*. Modified: 3:29pm On Mar 04, 2025 |
caracas:They were worshipping God and yet God did not bless them rather they got wiped out? Anyone who is truly not a Christian is going to be burned |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 10:19am On Mar 04, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:Jesus was not the name quoted in John17:26. The Lord Jesus was the one talking there |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by immaculatesense(m): 12:21pm On Mar 04, 2025 |
StillDtruth:You have not answered my question directly. Before Jesus came, Africa has existed and they were not Jews. When Jesus came, Africa has existed before Jesus gospel was brought. My question is: How will the Just God judge this people who lived by their conscience during these periods. Use your answer to explain Romans 2:14-16. Make sure you read the verse before you respond. Thanks. |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by StillDtruth: 12:48pm On Mar 04, 2025 |
immaculatesense:And I have a answered, the same way all men are Judged which is, your father accuses you of sleeping with his 3rd wife; guilty or not guilty? Or Tochi accuses you of cheating him because he trusted you as his brother by selling him a swampy land when you knew that he was trying to buy a dry land to do his carpentry business. And when he asked for refund, you refused, guilty or not guilty? Romans 2:14 Which nation does not have and know these Laws and that they should not be done? That is the import of my answer. |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by immaculatesense(m): 1:05pm On Mar 04, 2025 |
StillDtruth:Good sir. So, you agree that their are some people who will be judged by their WORKS and not by whether they believe in Jesus or not. Thanks. |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by justmondris: 1:32pm On Mar 04, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:Offcourse. humann standard of measuring a good person is different from God's standard. If must be good and holy to make heaven. |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by StillDtruth: 3:28pm On Mar 04, 2025 |
immaculatesense:Did I not already say that where in the bible do you see a person judged for failing to believe? |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by immaculatesense(m): 6:23pm On Mar 04, 2025 |
StillDtruth:Okay. Good. Thanks sir. |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:01am On Mar 05, 2025 |
cutecommend:People only end up in hell when they reject Jesus. |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 9:24am On Mar 06, 2025 |
justmondris:So if good and bad people go to hell, who goes to heaven? |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 9:25am On Mar 06, 2025 |
delkuf:So what was the name of the Father that Jesus claimed to declare? |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 11:05am On Mar 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:the name of the father the Lord Jesus declared, is the name Father. I can't really talk in details, but when the Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross in the flesh and resurrected in the flesh, God gave us his life. That life is the eternal life. And mind you eternal life is different from everlasting life. That will be another discussion. So that eternal life enable us to become a son to God and God became a Father to us. That is why if you read the beginning of that John 17, you will see that, started by address God as a Father. So that life(eternal) given to us as a gift from God enable us to be sons to God and God a Father to us. The Lord Jesus was show this in John 17. |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 12:11am On Mar 07, 2025 |
delkuf:🤣 So "father" is the name of the Father that Jesus declared? So if your child calls you Father, he or she is calling you the name of the Almighty God? |
| Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 7:22am On Mar 07, 2025 |
Truthseeker10:that was not what I said. The fact your son calls you Father doesn't mean that they are calling you God. And besides what is the meaning of the name God. God means Messiah, saviour. So your child can see you as his Messiah. We are call god in the Bible. With the dead and resurrection of the Lord Jesus in the flesh, we are different. We don't have a God but a Father. Why do you think the Muslim and other religions are fighting hard against the Christians, they what us to see ourselves as a slave. That we can't be sons to God. But it happened with Jesus. It happens with the flesh and blood of the Lord Jesus. |
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