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Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by InvertedHammer: 12:56am On Mar 03, 2025
DeOTR:
I don't care what you believe or not. It's a reference from many authors written for more than 2 millennials by people who who mostly don't know each other. More than 95% of the prophecies have been accurately fulfilled already. Most of the events there in can be verified from other secular sources. I don't need the opinion of someone who can't even see beyond his nose on spiritual matters.
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Alright Deputy Jesus.

Extend my greeting to the angels bc evidently you dine with them everyday.

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Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by pneumatikos: 1:10am On Mar 03, 2025
cutecommend:
It is very important I help you this morning so that you won't be living in false confidence while moving on the wrong path.

The truth is that if anyone dies now with any sin, they are going straight to hell; whether they are sinners or believers. But if you accept Jesus Christ and repent before dying or before rapture, you will make heaven. Someone's last state before they die or before rapture, determines their going to heaven. And going to heaven requires no sin in you at your last state on earth.

It is only Jesus Christ that takes one to heaven. If you are morally upright without sin and yet do not accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal Saviour, you cannot make heaven. And if you are a Christian and you do not ask for pardon on any known or unknown sin before you die or before rapture, you cannot make heaven.

The purpose of God implanting sanctification and holiness in people is to make them live lives without sin.

While there is heaven for Christians who will die in the great tribulation for refusing to comply with the anti-christ: this is after rapture, I tell you this truth: SIN TAKES A MAN TO HELL.

It is a beautiful Sunday. Please pray quickly, accept Jesus today and repent from all sins. Also attend a Bible-believing church.
You seem to contradict yourself. Take an open mind and study scriptures for yourself.

You said "It is only Jesus Christ that takes one to heaven. If you are morally upright without sin and yet do not accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal Saviour, you cannot make heaven."

How can one be morally upright without sin and yet if he does not accept Jesus he is going to hell. Can you see your contradiction?

So what role does accepting Jesus Christ does in the believer if truly his morality is not enough. So why then do you emphasize the last state of a man before the death as the criteria for making heaven. Is that not contradictory?

They asked Jesus what must they do to do the works of God, but this is what he says. According to the Bible, in John 6:28-29, Jesus states that "the work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent," meaning that the primary way to "do the works of God" is to believe in Jesus Christ.

Yet you look at light the sacrifice of Jesus and says a man's last state is what determines his salvation.

Many so called holiness preachers will be shocked on that day that they do not actually believe in Jesus but rather in their own righteousness and holiness.

How many people think they are on their way to heaven because they have set in their minds their own standard for righteousness and holiness and has limited them to a set of rules and regulations.

You better cast all your hope on him and truly believe that Christ's death and resurrection is more than enough for you and any other addition is another gospel and it's false.

It's either you believe that Jesus's sacrifice is enough for you or not. The choice remains yours.

I took my time to study during COVID 19, during the lock down and truly I am scared at many who think they are holy and righteous because they keep a set of moral rules.

Repent (change your mind that Christ is enough and more than enough).

I can hear buts, "are you saying we should continue in sin?" If you ask this very question then you truly do not understand the gospel. I rest my case.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 3:33pm On Mar 03, 2025
emperor4love:
because u believe in bible Buddha nd Hindu or moslem will say same if u don't believe in there own messenger u will be going to hell as well
Does the Bible verse that I quoted say that hell is a place of torment?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 3:34pm On Mar 03, 2025
Lovelyflower:
is a general moral, our forefathers don't know bible but they condemned killing and other atrocious acts. Is the humanity in them teaching them that thought. Without bible, you already know that cutting someone's flesh will hurt him/her.
What is morality, and Who has the right to decide morality?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 3:35pm On Mar 03, 2025
ichuka:
I told you to stop cherry picking.
There's no name in heaven,on earth and beneath the earth that's greater than the name Jesus Christ.
Is "Jesus" the name of the Father according to John 17:26? Yes or no?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 3:36pm On Mar 03, 2025
justmondris:
Being a good person does not mean you are not a sinner.
So you agree that good and bad people go to hell?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by ichuka(m): 5:16pm On Mar 03, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Is "Jesus" the name of the Father according to John 17:26? Yes or no?
Dude rest abeg
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 7:08pm On Mar 03, 2025
ichuka:
Dude rest abeg
🤣🤣🤣baba answer no run. Is "Jesus" the name of the Father according to John 17:26? Yes or no?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by mamoh2k3: 7:45pm On Mar 03, 2025
Even Jesus will queue behinde the last prophet of God.
DeOTR:
But we should take the words of a false prophet who doubles as a pedophile seriously?
Jesus said he's the only way to God. Choke on that.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:56pm On Mar 03, 2025
jchioma:
I’m curious. On what premise do you place your theory?
God never mentioned a place of torment in the beginning it's either the sinner dies or lives.

So the dead has no further case to answer because their death writes-off their sins! Romans 6:7
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:58pm On Mar 03, 2025
mozona:
after that?
Nothing more death ends all sinners! Romans 6:7
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by DeOTR: 8:15pm On Mar 03, 2025
mamoh2k3:
Even Jesus will queue behinde the last prophet of God.
Definitely not a dead prophet and a false one at that. Allah is not the same God Jesus called His FATHER.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by ichuka(m): 10:16pm On Mar 03, 2025
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣baba answer no run. Is "Jesus" the name of the Father according to John 17:26? Yes or no?
What's the name of the father that u know, name it
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by jchioma: 10:26pm On Mar 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
God never mentioned a place of torment in the beginning it's either the sinner dies or lives.

So the dead has no further case to answer because their death writes-off their sins! Romans 6:7
But since in reality everyone dies, does that make everyone a sinner? Another question that bothers me is if heaven and earth shall pass away, where does that leave us? Thanks for your clarifications.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 10:40pm On Mar 03, 2025
ichuka:
What's the name of the father that u know, name it
I don't know. Kindly answer the question.
Is "Jesus" the name of the Father according to John 17:26? Yes or no?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by MaxInDHouse(m):
jchioma:
But since in reality everyone dies, does that make everyone a sinner? Another question that bothers me is if heaven and earth shall pass away, where does that leave us? Thanks for your clarifications.
YES we are all sinners {Romans 3:23} the term Heaven and Earth that will pass away is an irony God has promised long ago that the earth will remain forever {Genesis 8:21-22; Psalms 78:69; 104:5; 119:90; Ecclesiastes 1:4} so the Heavens and Earth to pass away are evil rulers who are like heavens above their subjects and the earth to pass away are their evil subjects all ruining the planet with their evil deeds:

For they deliberately ignore this fact, that long ago there were heavens and an earth standing firmly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was flooded with water. But by the same word the heavens and the earth that now exist are reserved for fire and are being kept until the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly people. 2Peter 3:5-7

Highlighted in blue: is it the heavens and earth that was destroyed due to God's anger in Noah's day or evildoers known as UNGODLY PEOPLE?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by StillDtruth: 7:38am On Mar 04, 2025
immaculatesense:
StillDtruth
I have taken a bit of time to read some of your perspectives on this platform especially on this fragile topic. Let me engage you a bit so I can have some clarity and also know your complete line of thoughts.
OUR ANCESTORS .

Do you think it will be Just for a Just God like our heavenly Father to send these honorable men to eternal damnation on the basis of "They Didn't Believe In Jesus."?
While You provide your answer. Please, consider the book of Romans 2:14-16.

Thank you.
This is where I get to remind you of Samuel's error. Remember he saw one of David's brothers as good and as acceptable but God answered him "No".

So, this is where you I remind you again that God Said "His thoughts are not your thoughts and His Ways, not your Ways"

Thus, whom you call honourable are often guilty of secret sins eg adultery, sleeping with father's wife, or brothers wife, murder etc

Then, lastly, where in the bible do you see anyone convicted because "they did not believe"? Was it Noah's world? Or Pharaoh over Abram's wife or Sodom and Gomorrah? Etc

Did you not read that man is condemned because he has done evil?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by StillDtruth:
caracas:
Stop fooling yourselves, so you know there's God the father , God the son and God the holy Spirit, yet you ppl posit that Muslims n other non Christians that worship God will not make heaven.
Make it make sense.....
Or do you not know that God was been worshipped before the existence of Christianity?
They were worshipping God and yet God did not bless them rather they got wiped out?

Anyone who is truly not a Christian is going to be burned
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 10:19am On Mar 04, 2025
Truthseeker10:
I don't know. Kindly answer the question.
Is "Jesus" the name of the Father according to John 17:26? Yes or no?
Jesus was not the name quoted in John17:26. The Lord Jesus was the one talking there
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by immaculatesense(m): 12:21pm On Mar 04, 2025
StillDtruth:
This is where I get to remind you of Samuel's error. Remember he saw one of David's brothers as good and as acceptable but God answered him "No".

So, this is where you I remind you again that God Said "His thoughts are not your thoughts and His Ways, not your Ways"

Thus, whom you call honourable are often guilty of secret sins eg adultery, sleeping with father's wife, or brothers wife, murder etc

Then, lastly, where in the bible do you see anyone convicted because "they did not believe"? Was it Noah's world? Or Pharaoh over Abram's wife or Sodom and Gomorrah? Etc

Did you not read that man is condemned because he has done evil?
You have not answered my question directly. Before Jesus came, Africa has existed and they were not Jews. When Jesus came, Africa has existed before Jesus gospel was brought.
My question is: How will the Just God judge this people who lived by their conscience during these periods. Use your answer to explain Romans 2:14-16. Make sure you read the verse before you respond.

Thanks.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by StillDtruth: 12:48pm On Mar 04, 2025
immaculatesense:
You have not answered my question directly. Before Jesus came, Africa has existed and they were not Jews. When Jesus came, Africa has existed before Jesus gospel was brought.
My question is: How will the Just God judge this people who lived by their conscience during these periods. Use your answer to explain Romans 2:14-16. Make sure you read the verse before you respond.

Thanks.
And I have a answered, the same way all men are Judged which is, your father accuses you of sleeping with his 3rd wife; guilty or not guilty?

Or Tochi accuses you of cheating him because he trusted you as his brother by selling him a swampy land when you knew that he was trying to buy a dry land to do his carpentry business. And when he asked for refund, you refused, guilty or not guilty?

Romans 2:14 Which nation does not have and know these Laws and that they should not be done?

That is the import of my answer.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by immaculatesense(m): 1:05pm On Mar 04, 2025
StillDtruth:
And I have a answered, the same way all men are Judged which is, your father accuses you of sleeping with his 3rd wife; guilty or not guilty?

Or Tochi accuses you of cheating him because he trusted you as his brother by selling him a swampy land when you knew that he was trying to buy a dry land to do his carpentry business. And when he asked for refund, you refused, guilty or not guilty?

Romans 2:14 Which nation does not have and know these Laws and that they should not be done?

That is the import of my answer.
Good sir.
So, you agree that their are some people who will be judged by their WORKS and not by whether they believe in Jesus or not.

Thanks.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by justmondris: 1:32pm On Mar 04, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So you agree that good and bad people go to hell?
Offcourse. humann standard of measuring a good person is different from God's standard. If must be good and holy to make heaven.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by StillDtruth: 3:28pm On Mar 04, 2025
immaculatesense:
Good sir.
So, you agree that their are some people who will be judged by their WORKS and not by whether they believe in Jesus or not.

Thanks.
Did I not already say that where in the bible do you see a person judged for failing to believe?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by immaculatesense(m): 6:23pm On Mar 04, 2025
StillDtruth:
Did I not already say that where in the bible do you see a person judged for failing to believe?
Okay.
Good.
Thanks sir.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:01am On Mar 05, 2025
cutecommend:
It is very important I help you this morning so that you won't be living in false confidence while moving on the wrong path.

The truth is that if anyone dies now with any sin, they are going straight to hell; whether they are sinners or believers. But if you accept Jesus Christ and repent before dying or before rapture, you will make heaven. Someone's last state before they die or before rapture, determines their going to heaven. And going to heaven requires no sin in you at your last state on earth.

It is only Jesus Christ that takes one to heaven. If you are morally upright without sin and yet do not accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal Saviour, you cannot make heaven. And if you are a Christian and you do not ask for pardon on any known or unknown sin before you die or before rapture, you cannot make heaven.

The purpose of God implanting sanctification and holiness in people is to make them live lives without sin.

While there is heaven for Christians who will die in the great tribulation for refusing to comply with the anti-christ: this is after rapture, I tell you this truth: SIN TAKES A MAN TO HELL.

It is a beautiful Sunday. Please pray quickly, accept Jesus today and repent from all sins. Also attend a Bible-believing church.
People only end up in hell when they reject Jesus.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 9:24am On Mar 06, 2025
justmondris:
Offcourse. humann standard of measuring a good person is different from God's standard. If must be good and holy to make heaven.
So if good and bad people go to hell, who goes to heaven?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 9:25am On Mar 06, 2025
delkuf:
Jesus was not the name quoted in John17:26. The Lord Jesus was the one talking there
So what was the name of the Father that Jesus claimed to declare?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 11:05am On Mar 06, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So what was the name of the Father that Jesus claimed to declare?
the name of the father the Lord Jesus declared, is the name Father. I can't really talk in details, but when the Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross in the flesh and resurrected in the flesh, God gave us his life. That life is the eternal life. And mind you eternal life is different from everlasting life. That will be another discussion. So that eternal life enable us to become a son to God and God became a Father to us. That is why if you read the beginning of that John 17, you will see that, started by address God as a Father. So that life(eternal) given to us as a gift from God enable us to be sons to God and God a Father to us. The Lord Jesus was show this in John 17.
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by Truthseeker10: 12:11am On Mar 07, 2025
delkuf:
the name of the father the Lord Jesus declared, is the name Father. I can't really talk in details, but when the Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross in the flesh and resurrected in the flesh, God gave us his life. That life is the eternal life. And mind you eternal life is different from everlasting life. That will be another discussion. So that eternal life enable us to become a son to God and God became a Father to us. That is why if you read the beginning of that John 17, you will see that, started by address God as a Father. So that life(eternal) given to us as a gift from God enable us to be sons to God and God a Father to us. The Lord Jesus was show this in John 17.
🤣 So "father" is the name of the Father that Jesus declared? So if your child calls you Father, he or she is calling you the name of the Almighty God?
Re: Is It Sin That Takes A Sinner To Hell Or Not Believing In Jesus? by delkuf(m): 7:22am On Mar 07, 2025
Truthseeker10:
🤣 So "father" is the name of the Father that Jesus declared? So if your child calls you Father, he or she is calling you the name of the Almighty God?
that was not what I said. The fact your son calls you Father doesn't mean that they are calling you God. And besides what is the meaning of the name God. God means Messiah, saviour. So your child can see you as his Messiah. We are call god in the Bible. With the dead and resurrection of the Lord Jesus in the flesh, we are different. We don't have a God but a Father. Why do you think the Muslim and other religions are fighting hard against the Christians, they what us to see ourselves as a slave. That we can't be sons to God. But it happened with Jesus. It happens with the flesh and blood of the Lord Jesus.
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