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Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by otokx(m): 4:42pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Do they have a record of Nigerians in this country? |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by samstels: 4:48pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
We are not yet matured for this kind of scheme .it will be grossly abused ,rather they should restructure the NYSC prog ,which a near perfect scheme that captures at least all the graduates in the country .For the social security scheme we need a working database for us to kickstart it and that we do not have .knowing nigerians they will abuse it and as well commit fraud with it . |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by kufreabasi(m): 4:49pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Are boko haramist inclusive? |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by lakesider(m): 4:49pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
This is good,it will keep graduate off robbery,drug pushing ,prostitution and other social vices |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by Ninapha(f): 4:52pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Its a good idea as it is. It would encourage our young one to go to school. @ Seun, I don't think any proven graduate would be satisfied collecting such amount without searching or agitating for a good job. The govt should carry on with the idea but should also to build industries and open opportunities for employment and productivity. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by 1025: 4:58pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
can this maleria ridden dreamers be kind enough to fix our electricity problems? |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by aljharem(m): 4:59pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
manny4life: Why are you pitying ? GIVE THE GOVERNMENT A CHANCE, so they say so give the government a chance, no be corruption people protest against and u people decided to give the government the chance so lets leave them to their judgement. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by aljharem(m): 5:00pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
jmaine: haba jmaine, LETS GIVE THE GOVERNMENT A CHANCE |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by Nobody: 5:11pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
NASS finances has to stripped and the funds accrued should be used to pilot the Social Security Scheme |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by Nobody: 5:14pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
WE DON'T WANT, Invest the to create jobs. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by TommyEnny(m): 5:28pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
As fantastic as this idea/proposal sounds and as much as I really want to give a toms up to this bill, at the same time I am very sad because to be sincere it will not work. I would like to compare it to the cashless or if you would cash-lite policy CBN is about introducing which will also NOT WORK. A country where you dont have accurate statistics, who is where at what time etc. and also a country that can not keep track of the firms bringing Petrolum Products in to its country at any time, a country that canot deal with the so called CABALS in the petroluem sector, Boko Haram etc because the people in govt. are also involved. I1 believe if we put the necessary structures in place every other thing will fall in place. For me Nigeria is not yet ready for Social Security and cashless policies because we dont have the structure on ground to support these policies we should just wait until these structure are in place or else it will only creat another avenue for a group of unscrupulous elements to hijack the process and take advantage of it for their selfish purpose. Please dont get me wrong Nigeria deserves this right now but its just that the much needed infrastructure is not available for the succesfull implementation of these policies. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by IOludayo(m): 5:34pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
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Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by Nobody: 5:34pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
There is no biometric database to track which graduate is working and who is not working. They will need to use the NYSC database to track a real graduate cos I know many of the drop outs will like to enlist, but will not be able to forge NYSC certificate because the certificate number is already on the NYSC database. The only set back, is that you cant track who is not working and who is working. Nice start anyway. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by ceejayluv(m): 5:34pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Dem don pay pensioners finish? Wey dem wan pay ALL aged people, I want to avoid the embarrassment of seeing our graduates carryin placards and protesting over arrears, Good idea but we need a Comprehensive Database first. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by GeneralGEJ: 5:39pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
All Good and well My Government has no money - This is scam my government invented to keep you morons happy. foooolllss The bill will never see daylight. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by kenny1st(m): 5:45pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
this is a very welcome development. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by Toyesky: 5:50pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
This bill will be one o the reasonable BILL ever passed if it goes through. Talking about Fraud, that can still be managed. If the ID project will work then I can not see fraud happening, nothing is impossible though |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by Yagba: 5:53pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Why are they silent over complaints about their needlessly outrageous allowances and bonuses? This hoodwinking won't work! |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by purefella(m): 6:11pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Are they even ok?? is that the first thing to do with my money i spent on buying fuel at higher rates , WE NEED GOOD ROADS , ELECTRICITY AND FREE HEALTH CARE CENTERS not giving money to some hoodlums who can't even spell there names and call themselves unemployed graduates that there is no work OR TO SOME OLD FOLKS WHO ARE WITCHES AND WIZARD THAT WON'T PRAY FOR THERE CHILDREN BUT CURSE THEM AND NOW THERE OLD TIME THERE CHILDREN ARE NOT BLESSED ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF THEM |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by CyberG: 6:15pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Deception! I think you Nigerians are REAlLY stupide to even think this will ever work! Do old pensioners get paid regularly per month? This is like throwing a bone to a dog in other to rob the house! |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by ct2: 6:16pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
yes a good development |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by Mayflowa(m): 6:21pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Again, this is by far a worse policy than the fuel subsidy. It will create so much unemployment. Even in the Uk, working people still declare bamkrupcy to benefit from social welfare let alone Nigeria with no records. These senator will keep putting us in trouble. They really think the country has so much money because they are unreasonably paid. Alternatively, money spend on corp member which currently stand at N600k/copper should be given to each corp member once after about 1 week intensive business and technical training to create SME. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by kinguwem: 6:38pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
This country does not have a comprehensive data base. Such a scheme though laudable will be prone to abuses. Lets put the basic structures on ground. Funding of the scheme can be achieved by the reduction of salaries and allowances of members of the national assembly and state houses of assembly. I thank God for touching the senator to sponsor a bill for the needy. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by 4gkevin: 6:48pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Thank you senator Anyim Udeh for your good work. many Nigerians had long cried out for social security of our people. But its better late than never if it finally scale through. And I must commend you again for the mathematical frame work since it coincided with many other frame works of Nigerians. At least from my calculations and based on the amount you intended should be appropriated for this scheme, a total of about 105 millions will benefit from the scheme for both unemployed and the aged. This will definitely not be enough, but we can always amend. N12700000000/yr divided by 12 months= 1058333333/month 1058333333/month divided by 10000= 105 million We can start from there. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by Nobody: 6:54pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
N12 billion, whatever happened to N10 billion YOUWIN Scheme, |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by eghost247(m): 7:01pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
lets see where this goes its about time |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by buemene(m): 7:01pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Considering What Nigeria makes on a daily basis and how much has been wasted on unprofitable ventures, initiating this noble ideal that will cost the country Just 12 Billion Naira a year (a figure lower than our daily national revenue) is one of the best thing that can ever happen during this administration. Admittedly, there will be lots of challenges such accurate figures of the truly unemployed in each of the states since there is no trustworthy database of this set of persons, however, let it start, and along the line some of the challenges will be taken care of. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by matty1024: 7:09pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Social benefits is almost dying today in the western world, it creates avenue for laziness. In Nigeria situation where we do not have proper data to checkmate our population figure, I wonder how we can ascertain how many unemployed graduates in our society. My guess is that the benefit scheme will be faulted by the handles, creating another means of corruption. The best is to look into infrastural development, enabling environment for job creation and Trust in the government circle. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by yeswecan(m): 7:14pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
This will be the biggest error we ever made. It is bad for economies and politics. This bill will change the incentive structure of Nigerians - we do not need this at all. Once you start a welfare state there is no going back. Apart from the obvious fact that it will be an avenue for FRAUD – there are serious questions we have to ask before going this road. Who will fund this? (Because it’s going to be a permanent project). From a purely practical front we do not have the institutional framework to do this. Even if we do, you are subsidizing people to stay idle. It can demean a child's inspirations to achieve to earn money as they know they will end up with money. The reason you have so much teenage pregnancy in the UK falls down to government welfare policy which created an incentive structure for young girls to get pregnant. It is simple and basic ' If you pay more for anything you tend to get more of that thing ' . We should stop looking at the western world - they are not having it well- we can do better. This is a country (Nigeria) with huge deal of government failures and we are talking on how to introducing a system that has never worked in the most competent of governments. There is no successful welfare system on planet earth – people like to cite NHS as a successful system but I tell you it is not successful. The best security for unemployed graduates is getting a job and the government can play a better role in that. |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by debedebe(m): 7:25pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Avenue 4 thief thief, D bill wil be passed 400yrs 2 come, tschewww |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by Nobody: 7:35pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
utopian |
Re: Senate Bill: Social Security For Unemployed Graduates & The Aged by tlops(m): 7:47pm On Jan 17, 2012 |
Oluwole go sell! I think the population of unemployed in nigeria is overwhelming and this bill will not work, even if it works it will only create more problems as we do not have the fundamentals of social security in place. Even in countries where it is being given they are considering stopping it as the world population increases. I think they should first have a system to identify Nigerians first and lots of problem will half solved. Moreover the money could be used to create enabling environments for young entrepreneurs, fix power problems; more industries will be able to run, thereby creating employment. Finally, its like the saying ; giving a man fish and teaching a man to fish. one solves the problem for a time while the other solves it permanently. |
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