₦airaland Forum

saintrow1:
pure fact, after the civil war we gave them life, if not they would have perished.

You gave them 20 pounds per household, which was really not a lot.
As to the pictures, do you agree with Awo's assertion that starvation is a legitimate weapon of war?

BreconHills:
Whether Zik saw himself as a federalist does not change the the fact that he insisted thst draft 1958 constitution be amended to remove the right of regions to leave the Federation. This made him a purist federalist whose reality has been undermined from 1967 yo its final death throes today. Ahamadu Bello and Awolowo were far more pragmatic. They were sceptical federalist no doubt. They foresaw a reversion to regional identity and prepared for it in two quite different ways. This does not make Zik a bad time in fact he was not only a federalist but a pan africanist like Nkrumah. Their view was beautiful but impractical as all over the world national identity is being redefined. The UK itself our former over Lords being a great example of unions in retreat.

Idealist vs pragmatists. Simple really.

@bolded, please tell them

kponkedenge:
I doubt most of these crimes are done by Nigerians.

I heard about how other African countries commit crimes abroad and claim to be Nigerians, thereby tarnishing our already destroyed imagine.

I can bet you that a large amount of these crimes are not done by Nigerians.

This is NOT true. People who travel usually have documents if not passports. Besides, Nigerians are truly a different breed of people compared to other Africans. It's like other Africans are slow

manikspears:
Have you heard the term....you think say you dey wise? That is the example. Fun-fact anybody can write anything on Google plus everyone is praised on Google at some point in time. Do you know that Sani Abacha was written as an economical hero on Google? But people who were alive then can never remember him for good. You kept calling zik a hero the same zik that connived with the first people that carried out the first coup.

Read

Dr. Azikiwe strangely did not come back in December, 1965, as scheduled, and gave no reasons.

When he eventually returned, much later in February 1966, he was received as a private citizen, because his post as Nigeria’s President had been abolished in his absence.

His inexplicable and un-explained failure to return home as host of the first Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Africa, holding in Lagos, Nigeria, beginning January 10th 1966, heightened suspicion that he knew more than he was letting on regarding the soldiers’ revolutionary mutiny of 15th January, 1966.

By early morning Sunday, January 16th 1966 - with President Azikiwe still away on his Caribbean cruise, and, with the country’s Prime Minister, Tafawa Balewa declared missing – Nigeria became vulnerable.

You apparently didn't read what I wrote. There is no ACTION related to being wise. But if you say "he thinks himself a youth advisor", that's different

Those things were written by major Nigerian newspapers, NOT Google.

Nobody said anything about hero. Being a nationalist or federalist doesn't make someone a hero.

Some people insist Awo planned the coup from prison, that Ifeajuna was his boy. Ifeajuna himself said the aim of the coup was to release Awo and make him Prime Minister. All speculation

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Perfect storm

Why won't he serve?

manikspears:
No it isn't. If I say you saw yourself as a wise man does that mean you are wise. I may even be stating an irony sef

Wrong analogy. No action required in that case. But you cant see yourself as something that requires action and never take that action - examples: youth advisor, footballer, nationalist.
But you were told Google is your friend! See below

manikspears:
■■They did not call zik a federalist, they said he saw himself as a federalist. Is english your problem?

You can see yourself as something you are not.

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BreconHills:
The piece you are quoting from is NOT by the Guardian it is an Op-Ed by a columnist. It is not history, it is someone's opinion. If you are going to use opinions you have to have a larger sample size. Or read impartial historians like Max Siollun or documentaries on Netflix like Journey of an African Colony

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Padipadi:
Firstly, after their death, we have seen who's more influential. Zik that wasn't emulated by Ojukwu, and every other Igbos even till this present Obi. When you are good, your goodness ll speak after your death. I m not here to disparage Azikiwe or Igbos but to tell that there was someone who's a better politician which is Awolowo.
Awo was never about Yorubas alone. He spoke for Yorubas when needed just as Ahmadu Bello was pro north. There was a clip of Ahmadu Bello castigating Igbos and saying they shouldn't be allowed to near power.

■■ It's same as saying he was a federalist. He saw himself as a federalist and aimed to be such. Awo saw himself as a Yoruba leader.
But you people sef. THINK! Zik was born and raised among Hausas and spoke the language fluently and also spoke Yoruba. He had no choice but be a nationalist. His US experiences further made him a pan-Aficanist. That's what you are comparing with Awo!

●● The writer was reviewing a BOOK by a non--Igbo who witnessed all of it. But he's not the only one. Google is your friend

■● Of course Zik is not as popular among Igbos as Awo is among Yorubas precisely because be was a federalist not just about Igbos unlike Awo. He did not support independence without the North. He was against secession and did no support Biafra and Ojukwu durring the war. Infact he flew into Lagos and was used by Nigerian side as propaganda!

Amazing! Just like talking to real person

Asgaud:
Putin dey speak English ? How e take dey whisper to dat southe ?

See below


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfTaNgQXSGY

Padipadi:
Both you and the guardian of that time are wrong

How?
Zik schooled in US. Saw Jim Crow segregation and maltreatment of BLACKS first hand. By the time he came back he was about liberating AFRICA, not only Nigeria. He started in Ghana with WEST AFRICAN pilot newspaper. He included "Cameroon" in his party. Awo on the hand, was always about Yoruba and Yoruba only. He never pretended about being a Nationalist. So why are you now thrusting it on him??

georgeakins:
Zik was below Awolowo in National politics.

He was never half as smart as Awo. He was a complete tribalist who masqueraded as a nationalist. He preferred to be an errand boy to the North instead of joining forces with Awo, he was eventually used and dumped.

Padipadi:
What happened then was internal crisis. Stop lampooning it. Meanwhile that Zik messed up. He could v teamed up with Awolowo for better instead of beefing the sage even after death. Some people are indeed bitter than flagyl.
On the legacy, who's more honoured after death by their people?
Awolowo or Zik?
In fact, where are Azikiwe's children in present time cos we still dey see Awolowo's children. In fact, one of his grandchildren is married to Osinbajo, one is a movie star, one is owner of tribune newspaper and his first grandchild is a very popular business man/politician?

Connoisseur:
I quite agree with the man.
For your information, he never said, "Yorubas never played politics of bitterness". Maybe they did at some point, but currently from his standpoint, they don't.

Moreover, wise people learn from their mistakes, idiots relieve them

tamdun:
A thief that left his region and wanted to rule SW

manikspears:
How does your writeup and your attachment make sense? Do you think you are speaking to idiots?

Seun needs to start blocking some people on NL.

I am not yoruba but you igbos are nothing to write home about when it comes to your thinking . Funny enough some of you are intelligent but you see the likes of you......you are the problem of south east

BreconHills:
When the yorubas were betrayed by Ziks alliance with the North ( the same north the SE love castigating today) they fought their own people whom they considered traitors to their cause.

When the SE felt betrayed they fought a war against the whole of Nigeria. A war that they had no hope in hell of winning in the hope that western nations would intervene.

In operation whettie hundreds died, in the civil war millions died. In the Western crisis, the problem was restricted to the locale in the civil war the Biafra army attempted to reach lagos.

Which zone was the political war zone? Both. Scale? No contest - SE

Those who forget history repeat it

duro4chang:
Life is hard. Do not make it hard for yourself

You folks have it all mixed up. Your quarrel is NOT with me. I simply remembered "wild, wild West" and did a google search and posted the first thing I saw!

Your quarrel is with people who wrote the following. People like The Guardian. They called Zik a nationalist and federalist, and Awo a regionalist and tribalist.
THEY wrote it, NOT me!

Japa007:
I always have this nauseating feeling anytime someone mentions 'lagos'. , A very terrible slum, you can lose ur life at any minute..

I pity any sane human being thinking of basing in lagos

There are many parts to Lagos. There are parts like village sef. Remember almost all Nigerian big boys/girls base there, including your president!

RingRoadMafia:
This thread is about how Fulanis play politics of hate, but watch and see how APC media cows will leave the fulanis whom Mr Bwala talked about and face the Igbos.

Maybe Mr Bwala needs to come on nairaland and see spiteful Yorubas for himself.

Ignorance of history. He doesn't know SW was the nation's political war zone!

SojWORLDWIDE:
First and foremost, I spent my childhood days with the

Does he believe in reincarnation?
Has he considered that maybe these ARE the elders?
THAT POSSIBLY, THESE ARE REINCARNATION OF SOULS OF ALL THOSE YOUNG MEN AND CHILDREN LOST IN BIAFRA DURRING THAT WAR??!!

Confirm4real:
The mother also should have been sentenced to death, she partook in the evil act

That's the part I don't understand. 2 years??
It's like she bribed the judge!

LagosFirstSon:
still worst city to live in on earth according to the European union body.


The south east that you people taunt ain't even in the worst place to live in list.

Una hate for the south east ain't selling .

Only international cities are counted. Lagos is the only city counted in Nigeria. Not even Abuja, I don't think

adanny01:
It's the supreme court that will declare it and its the CJN who is the head of the Supreme court that will act on it. Not the police, military or anyone. Whatever order that will come from Tinubu is null and void after the pronouncement from SC. As soon as Obi makes himself available to the CJN, he will be sworn in without delay.

Why do you guys always think like kids. You are comparing a constitutional to a criminal case. Kanu's case can end today and DSS can arrest him at the gate of the court with a different charge.

When Imo governor was removed, how long did it take to swear in new governor? Go find out the almost dozen times a government is removed by court.

The only reason that this case has already failed is because it is genuinely lacking of merit.

What's is Obi asking for?

He won? He came 3rd
Nullify election? That's absurdly impossible
Tinubu a drug baron? Prove it
...
Bla bla bla

Grow up

You are talking like an idiot who doesn't live in real life Nigeria. Visualize, the SC quickly declares xyz president. Tinubu is in Aso Rock and refuses to leave. Then what?
Same "then what" that happened other times president refused to obey.
Governors don't control any enforcement - can even have their security dentail withdrawn while still in office. Stop talking like an idiot!

LagosFirstSon:
Lagos always in the news for all the wrong reasons

It was ranked 2nd worst last year.
What a great improvement!
Congratulations Eko!

adanny01:
Complete falsehood, if supreme court declares Obi president, Tinubu ceases to be President immediately and Obi will be secured immediately and sworn in.

What happened when Yaradua died is exactly what will happen.

Did Tinubu put himself there, The same person who swore Tinubu will swear in anyone the supreme court declares as the president.

Stop sharing ignorance.

You dare not compare Nnamdi Kanu's case with Presidential election tribunal.

My friend you're talking about la la land, not real life.
There is PRECEDENT in Nigeria for delays in enforcing SC rulings.
There is no such precedent in a country like,say, USA.
Nigeria copied the American presidential system without having any of the things that keep the American president in check - such that not a single American president has ever delayed enforcement of a SC rulling.
The same thing that delayed enforcement of other SC rulings would also delay removal of the president until the decision is magically reversed. That's real life!
Yes, Tinubu did not put himself there, but once he is there, he's the only one who can remove himself - because he alone controls enforcement (military and police) and his total loyalists are in charge of them!
Anyway, all this is moot because, like I said, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE those judges will rule Tinubu did not win the election!

adanny01:
Your post is clever by half.

If Judges can be retired or appointed by Tinubu, the same judges can be retired or appointed by PO if they make him the president.

But Obi has to be sworn in first and the only person that can allow that is the president! The same judges that ordered Kanu released and nothing happened? They'll now order the president to remove himself! With what army or police will they enforce it? Nigerian presidency is ridiculously too powerful with virtually no checks and balances, aside the fact the judges themselves are APC politicians (never mind the pretence - u have to be to be appointed by APC)

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
If achieved, it will be a massive win for APC.

People really can't think.
You can pay N1m a month, the question is what can the money buy?! If you massively increase money in circulation, prices will go up to match!

4th wife. As in FOUR??!!

ChatterHouse:
If truly Tinubu won , there should not be any doubt



Since yesterday the APC has been in jittery




Please someone should explain for me

Jittery about what? Only fools among them are jittery.
Even if video evidence is presented of Tinubu personally rigging the election, those judges will not remove him