pazienza:

I agree with chinenye and ezeuche,majority of south south people talk and reason like ephomoghan,it's only an igbo person that have not lived amongst these people that will take Dokubo and briggs serious.

Something tells me that all these their talk of alliance has something to do with GEJ secret ambition of staying in aso rock beyound 2015,( he is no mandela)they will need igbo votes again.

These people think we are foolish,enugu airport is still unfinished,no second niger bridge yet,if things remain this way beyound this year,then Ohanaeze has serious questions to answer to ndiigbo. One thing is sure,2015 is going to be a year to remember.

noiseless:

Wouldn't it be better if we channel our disappointment towards ohaneze bro? I personally will rather consider seriously what dokubo and briggs are saying than those on the streets because it takes the leaders to change and educate followers,the same way nigerian government has been feeding them with lies and brainwashing them, is the same way the dokubos and briggs will educate them about the truth for their common good.

pazienza:

I agree with chinenye and ezeuche,majority of south south people talk and reason like ephomoghan,it's only an igbo person that  have not  lived amongst these people that will take Dokubo and briggs serious.

Something tells me that all these their talk of alliance  has something to do with GEJ  secret ambition of staying in aso rock beyound 2015,( he is no mandela)they will need igbo votes again.

These people think we are foolish,enugu airport is still unfinished,no second niger bridge yet,if things remain this way beyound this year,then Ohanaeze has serious questions to answer to ndiigbo. One thing is sure,2015 is going to be a year to remember.

Onlytruth:

Thank you my brother!
That is exactly why I'm not thinking and talking the same way as ChinenyeN and co. Believe me, I have my own feelings, but they have nothing to do with COLLECTIVE IGBO INTEREST.
The position that I've chosen to take and advocate here is what I believe is the best for Ndigbo (and hopefully our neighbors). I cannot afford to allow my sentiments becloud my vision for the collective good of both Igbo and our neighbors.

I would rather listen to the Asaris, Briggs and Beaf's , than some semi-literate folks running around the delta talking trash. As far as I'm concern, Edwin Clark is the only educated character/leader supporting the division between the two zones, and he is dying! (I believe he won't be relevant 10 years from now). His followers will be overwhelmed by a resurgent united East (SE and SS).

ChinenyeN:

A people can only be led as far as they willing to be led. In an earlier post, [B]Beaf[/b] gave an indication that SS leaders, such as Dokubo, command a great following. If there is any time to prove that, it would be in the upcoming years. If SS leaders can actually assert such influence and foster a pivotal alliance between them and SE, then maybe our future with our neighbors might be something to look forward to. BUT, as far as I history has shown, it is complete naivety to think that the collective sentiment/prejudice of a people can be ignored. Dokubo and co have a lot of work to do on their own people, before there can be any real movement forward.

In many ways Onlytruth and Noiseless, I am in agreement with you, but I just don't you should be putting so much faith in the words of Dokubo & co.

pazienza:

Isn't it possible that you are repeating Ojukwu's mistakes, Ojukwu had most of the prominent ijaw leaders in the eastern house supporting the biafra project,wasn't the name 'biafra' chosen by one of those Ijaw leaders by the name Opugo,isn't it possible that Ojukwu was aware of the minorities resentment of ndiigbo, but was rather hoping that those ijaw leaders he had with him  would just wave their magic wand and everything would be fine?

Onlytruth:

^^

What is the name of that "Calabar" army officer killed on top of Carter Bridge in Lagos?
Was he Igbo?
Was he not killed in the West?

Look for the link yourself.
Freaking hyena.

Onlytruth:

^^
Okay, let me save you. 
His name is Major Ekandem.

Google his name and come back. 

BlackPikiN:

Dnt be too excited agwo!
Major Ekanem was shot dead on carter bridge in Lagos by your brothers.
You will always remain a criminal!

Onlytruth:

As Gowon struggled to stabilize himself in power, random murders of Eastern Region soldiers continued to occur. On August 12 (1966), several NCSs from Eastern Region were rounded up and killed by Northern soldiers in Apapa, Lagos. Less than two weeks before that, the army's Provost Marshal, Major Ibanga Ekanem (as Eastern officer of the Annang ethnic group) and his driver were shot dead at a checkpoint on Carter Bridge by sergeant Lapdam while en route to an errand for Gowon.

Source: Oil, Politics and Violence (Max Siollun).

alj-harem, your brothers were very much at home killing ALL Easterners.  

alj harem:

And it by my brothers.

According to Onlytruth, South-southerners were targeted. Always trying to draw company with una

Major Ekanem was just another solider killed during the eve of the baifra war that was cause by Igbos themselves

so what gives

Now my turn, let me show you the people your brothers killed because of ethnocentric reasons

1. Bello

2. Akintola

3. Ademounga, wife and unborn child

4. Tafa balewa in lagos (yes you killed all those people in their respective turf)

etc

Now here is one for you as well

Fajuyi felt quite safe. However, on the 25th of July, a contingent of heavily armed troops, all of the Northerners, speeded from a nearby Barracks to The Governors Lodge Ibadan. The time was about 8pm. Fajuyi was entertaining his guest, General Agui-Ironsi. The troops easily got access to the sitting room. Without being announced, they forced themselves into the sitting room. They knew their victims. Without any ceremony, they ordered General Ironsi to stand up and be searched. With no struggle from Ironsi, he obeyed. One of them began to handcuff Ironsi. Fajuyi could not comprehend what was happening. "You can't do that” he bellowed.  "Why? You keep away “The most senior officer of the troops ordered Fajuyi.  “He is my guest, and you can't do that to him right in my house” "We've come to take him away” Responded one of the officers. "Take him away to where?” "That's none of your business; you keep away and sit down”, ordered the most senior of the rebel officers. But Fajuyi continued " I am a Yoruba; and we Yorubas do not allow gangsters to kidnap our guests from our home I can't let you hurt him “Fajuyi insisted. “Very well; Yoruba man; we'll teach you a lesson. We'll take both of you, “said the senior officer as he administered a hard blow on the face of Fajuyi. Then the troops pushed him and Ironsi into a waiting Land Rover.
(J)    Both men were then driven to a nearby bush and shot. The time was only nine o’clock.

http://www.ndrm.typepad.com/

BlackPikiN:

You are not making any sense.
what's ur arguement again? that no Ekanem was killed right.

As for Akintola, i still wonder if He was a devil incarnate or the devil himself.
How can a premier give a hate speech. Most Nigerians who arent from the SW dont know the gravity of that speech because He spoke in his language.
That speech should rank as the greatest hate speech by any leader in Africa. If it were a man from the SE who made that, mehn, I just wonder.

Onlytruth:

Fact remains that Easterners (irrespective of tribe) were being killed in North and West. The Northerners wanted to do the same in the East, it didn't happen.
All non-Easterners in the East were given safe passage to return to their regions even with arms.

Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread with silly irrelevant diversions.

alj harem:


Do you even understand what Akintola said ? maybe you can summarise it to us here.

All what Akintola and Bello said are well supported idealogies even to this very day and not only in the west and north but also in the south-south.

Why do you think 70% of Oil workers are South-southerners ? Are they Igbos ? No

Why do you think South-southerners such as Ikwerri etc would tell an hausa or yoruba or Ijaw man that he is not Igbo even though his name is Emeka or so ?

Why do you think every region and state employs 50% of indigenes on the state before outsiders ?

Why do you think that IGBO controlled media, entertainment, buinesses etc would only employ Igbos with only few others



Those Ideology is what is making us tolerate each other. You as an Igbo man cannot go to Cross river in numbers asking for a job and only employing only Igbos. Ibibios would NOT allow it.

That was what Akintola and Bello were trying to pass across to their people.

According to Akintola which I strongly agree with him, our of 109 lectures in UI, 107 were Igbos and 3 yorubas even though there were yoruba lectures, He siad they employ themselves alone

And we all can still see the same today In Diamond Bank, Zeith Bank, Nollywood etc.

alj harem:

And it by my brothers.

According to Onlytruth, South-southerners were targeted. Always trying to draw company with una

Major Ekanem was just another solider killed during the eve of the baifra war that was cause by Igbos themselves

so what gives

Now my turn, let me show you the people your brothers killed because of ethnocentric reasons

1. Bello

2. Akintola

3. Ademounga, wife and unborn child

4. Tafa balewa in lagos (yes you killed all those people in their respective turf)

etc

[b]Now here is one for you as well

Fajuyi felt quite safe. However, on the 25th of July, a contingent of heavily armed troops, all of the Northerners, speeded from a nearby Barracks to The Governors Lodge Ibadan. The time was about 8pm. Fajuyi was entertaining his guest, General Agui-Ironsi. The troops easily got access to the sitting room. Without being announced, they forced themselves into the sitting room. They knew their victims. Without any ceremony, they ordered General Ironsi to stand up and be searched. With no struggle from Ironsi, he obeyed. One of them began to handcuff Ironsi. Fajuyi could not comprehend what was happening. "You can't do that” he bellowed.  "Why? You keep away “The most senior officer of the troops ordered Fajuyi.  “He is my guest, and you can't do that to him right in my house” "We've come to take him away” Responded one of the officers. "Take him away to where?” "That's none of your business; you keep away and sit down”, ordered the most senior of the rebel officers. But Fajuyi continued " I am a Yoruba; and we Yorubas do not allow gangsters to kidnap our guests from our home I can't let you hurt him “Fajuyi insisted. “Very well; Yoruba man; we'll teach you a lesson. We'll take both of you, “said the senior officer as he administered a hard blow on the face of Fajuyi. Then the troops pushed him and Ironsi into a waiting Land Rover.
(J)    Both men were then driven to a nearby bush and shot. The time was only nine o’clock.

http://www.ndrm.typepad.com/[/b]

Dede1:


This is one of the most idiotic drivels I have ever read on this forum. Even if this is an act in a plot organized by the Boys Company from Zaria military school, the script would have been rejected by the squad leaders. What a pathetic desperation to look relevant in a political telescope.

Francis Fajuiyi was not the first soldier to confront team of coup plotters nor uttered such words because there was no time or ear to listen to such nonsensical sermon from a soldier who has no command of a broom.

The soldiers who confronted the team of coup plotters in government house in Ibadan were Njoku and Nwankwo. Andy Nwankwo even drew a pistol on T Danjuman who had grenade with the pin pulled. I had been resourcefully informed that events which took place in government house was more of a military style action than sermon reading scene depicted by this excerpt from publication of 1967 western region of Nigeria’s gazette.