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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Ibime(m): 11:22pm On Jan 20
homesteady:


Busquets has played against the very best from EPL and he has always come out unscathed. There was one time he met Chelsea's new Makelele, and he destroyed him.

Please give us another story.

When Chelsea's new Makelele was winning World Cup, Busquets was getting bundled out by mother Russia.

Busquets without Xavi and Alonso has been tanking with Spain last few tournaments.

If not for Messi forcing opponents back, we would see Busquets escorting players to goal every week.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Ibime(m): 11:23pm On Jan 20
airmark:


Rudiger then. At least he can also play those passes that Luiz has been feeding our attackers recently, only that most of his, went to the stands.

Tah, Rudiger made some good long passes last match. Infact, that's a strength of his.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by airmark(m): 11:29pm On Jan 20
Adisaowalla:


Carrick was as slow as Busquets, only that the English man's passing was head & shoulders over Busquet's

Carrick's reaction while defending wasn't as slow as Busquets', he was slow too though.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Excallibur(m): 11:29pm On Jan 20
If this if that, grin SHEKPS
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Excallibur(m): 11:32pm On Jan 20
That time they say Iniesta na carry along, now na busquets, So basically Barca's greatest team ever had been playing with only one man in midfield. Xavi na lord

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by airmark(m): 11:33pm On Jan 20
Ibime:


Tah, Rudiger made some good long passes last match. Infact, that's a strength of his.

Not sure he played defence-splitting lofted passes like Luiz.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by popizaino(m): 11:39pm On Jan 20
Adiwana:



Passing is useless if it's not serving it's sole purpose which is to create opportunities for attackers to score.So if a Regista is averaging 90 passes/game with the game going to goalless draw,then he's not being effective with the ball.Barca at their very best were averaging 500 passes per game and we're demolishing teams.If you play Mikel as a Regista,he will do Jorginho's numbers comfortably well.Passing,receiving the ball and playing it back to defenders and goal keeper will give you those numbers.Makelele was sold because the then RM president wanted him to distribute the ball to attackers and not packing up statistics by playing the ball back

Again,how is distant covered the same as creating space for one self.Lmao.A regista by nature doesn't need to have speed or cover so many distances to be effective.Pirlo,Scholes are perfect Registas that nobody knows them for their speed or distance covered.That is why Pirlo had players like Seedorf at Milan and Vidal at Juventus.The only concern of a regista is to drop deep to create space for people like Kante,Seedorf etc who have high work rates to cover those distances for them.And if hes opening up those spaces as he should,then nobody will mark him out in games [b]because it's either a striker marks him thereby leaving his sole duty which is to score or a CM or AM will do the job which then leaves that extra [/b]space in the midfield for others to explore.Any Good Regista that knows what he's doing has no business being out marked in a game.That is why you hardly heared that Pirlo had a bad game.Because no matter how bad a game is was for him,he did his job unless he was totally outclassed which was very rare

On this issue,I have always said Sarri is dogshit.Because he's playing a Regista in a system that utilises wingers and plays short possession football.That can only work if hes playing a diamond formation.Which then again makes all those 200 passes or whatever to be useless because it's not carving out anything for strikers to feed on.i have always blamed Sarri for that.But if Jorginho had vision,he will be playing key passes and carving out chances even in that short possession kind of football because players like Hazard drift into the midfield and not drift wide when trying to create spaces to score.Pirlo for example wasn't just a master at long balls.He was pretty effective at short balls and had great vision in short key passes which Jorginho lacks.Am not judging because of Chelsa.I have watched the guy play with Italy who rely on long balls and I can tell you he's very useless.


This is tactical analysis.i wish I could like it more than one.
Network is a bit bad here I would have helped you further buttress the bolded of how strikers are always the ones marking the deep playing midfielders with videos from YouTube were Kareem benzema is always on the receiving end of Sergio busquest superb intelligent skills.And again I think Ferguson once marked pirlo out of the game using js park but that was only possible because he was playing against a juvenile coach Leonardo or so .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by homesteady(m): 11:39pm On Jan 20
Ibime:


When Chelsea's new Makelele was winning World Cup, Busquets was getting bundled out by mother Russia.

Busquets without Xavi and Alonso has been tanking with Spain last few tournaments.

If not for Messi forcing opponents back, we would see Busquets escorting players to goal every week.

If my memory is still intact, I can remember Chelsea's new Makelele being subbed out in the final because a decent Croatia midfield used his head to play ludo until he became dizzy. The nigga was totally out of depth.

This was the same thing that happened when France met Spain. A proper midfield is Kante's kryptonite.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by popizaino(m): 11:42pm On Jan 20
Excallibur:
That time they say Iniesta na carry along, now na busquets, So basically Barca's greatest team ever had been playing with only one man in midfield. Xavi na lord


So iniesta too.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by homesteady(m): 11:42pm On Jan 20
Excallibur:
That time they say Iniesta na carry along, now na busquets, So basically Barca's greatest team ever had been playing with only one man in midfield. Xavi na lord

Don't mind all these people.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Ibime(m): 11:49pm On Jan 20
homesteady:


If my memory is still intact, I can remember Chelsea's new Makelele being subbed out in the final because a decent Croatia midfield used his head to play ludo until he became dizzy. The nigga was totally out of depth.

This was the same thing that happened when France met Spain. A proper midfield is Kante's kryptonite.

France met Spain in a friendly, nobody got time to be expending energy in friendly.

Last two International tournaments, Kante provided defensive bedrock to take his team all the way to the final.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Olalekank(m): 12:07am On Jan 21
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Ibime(m): 12:09am On Jan 21
Excallibur:
That time they say Iniesta na carry along, now na busquets, So basically Barca's greatest team ever had been playing with only one man in midfield. Xavi na lord

Not every player in an 11 must be great. Good players can also play for great teams.

Our job here is to sift the good from great. Barca cannot have the best 11 players in the world in every position. We respect Alves, Xavi and Messi as best in their positions, the others are good players playing with greatness.

AC Milan team of 1989 to 1994, often hailed the best club team ever, still has players like Albertini. Who be the Albertini for your team?

Busquets can't be the best DM, Pique best CB, Iniesta best AM, Alba best left back etc. Some even elevated Victor Valdes past his station, until Middlesbrough disgraced him.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by homesteady(m): 12:11am On Jan 21
Ibime:


France met Spain in a friendly, nobody got time to be expending energy in friendly.

Last two International tournaments, Kante provided defensive bedrock to take his team all the way to the final.

Issoriat!! If my memory still serves me well, when Barcelona went to Stamford Bridge last year, Busquets reigned Supreme. If not for Messi ending his curse against Chelsea, Busquets would have dominated the headlines, I can even remember your legend Lampard praising Busquets.

France uses like a million defensive midfielders, there is no spinning that you'd do that would make Kante seem so important to France success. The fact that he was subbed out in an all important final is a huge blow to your Kante's campaign.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by airmark(m): 12:19am On Jan 21
homesteady:


Issoriat!! If my memory still serves me well, when Barcelona went to Stamford Bridge last year, Busquets reigned Supreme. If not for Messi ending his curse against Chelsea, Busquets would have dominated the headlines, I can even remember your legend Lampard praising Busquets.

France uses like a million defensive midfielders, there is no spinning that you'd do that would make Kante seem so important to France success. The fact that he was subbed out in an all important final is a huge blow to your Kante's campaign.

Where's Busquet? For over 8yrs now playing for great team like Barca, he never made it. I don't even need to ask for Fifa team of the year appearance.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Ibime(m): 12:29am On Jan 21
homesteady:


Issoriat!! If my memory still serves me well, when Barcelona went to Stamford Bridge last year, Busquets reigned Supreme. If not for Messi ending his curse against Chelsea, Busquets would have dominated the headlines, I can even remember your legend Lampard praising Busquets.

France uses like a million defensive midfielders, there is no spinning that you'd do that would make Kante seem so important to France success. The fact that he was subbed out in an all important final is a huge blow to your Kante's campaign.

Busquets didn't do nothing. We were scared of Messi, that's why we were sitting back. Willian so flogged Biscuits that Barca immediately started bidding for Willian cos Biscuits was escorting him all over the pitch

Which DM do you know that will win League player of the year immediately after placing second the prior year. A DM that will take Leicester of all teams to league title, switch teams and take a 10th place Chelsea to title again, all while taking his national team to international finals. They would ignore all the attacking players in the league and make him the MVP. He must be special. When they are ranking LaLiga POTY, I'm sure Biscuits will take several seats, maybe behind some Celta Vigo attackers sef.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by homesteady(m): 12:33am On Jan 21
airmark:


Where's Busquet? For over 8yrs now playing for great team like Barca, he never made it. I don't even need to ask for Fifa team of the year appearance.

You are not an amateur here, you should know better than bringing such up.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Ibime(m): 12:44am On Jan 21
homesteady:


You are not an amateur here, you should know better than bringing such up.

He didn't bring nothing up that is false.

You mean with all the hype around Barca that make even the worst Barca players make team of the year almost every year, Busquets has never even made FIFPRO 11 or UEFA TOTY?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by homesteady(m): 1:03am On Jan 21
Ibime:


Busquets didn't do nothing. We were scared of Messi, that's why we were sitting back. Willian so flogged Biscuits that Barca immediately started bidding for Willian cos Biscuits was escorting him all over the pitch

Which DM do you know that will win League player of the year immediately after placing second the prior year. A DM that will take Leicester of all teams to league title, switch teams and take a 10th place Chelsea to title again, all while taking his national team to international finals. They would ignore all the attacking players in the league and make him the MVP. He must be special. When they are ranking LaLiga POTY, I'm sure Biscuits will take several seats, maybe behind some Celta Vigo attackers sef.

He didn't do anything, and the trio of Gerrard, Rio and Lampard spent a considerable amount of time talking about his game and praising him? The video was all over the Internet.

How many DMs do you know that would play as a single pivot in a team filled with non-physical players, with defenders keeping a very high line, with attack-minded fullbacks, even with attack-minded defenders, super star players that don't bother with defensive duties? Despite all these, he has led his team to two UCL trophies and led his country to International success.

Makelele was ignored, so it shouldn't be a shocker that Busquets is also ignored.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by homesteady(m): 1:10am On Jan 21
Ibime:


He didn't bring nothing up that is false.

You mean with all the hype around Barca that make even the worst Barca players make team of the year almost every year, Busquets has never even made FIFPRO 11 or UEFA TOTY?


We all know nobody agrees to such list when it doesn't favor them, so let's not go there. Or when next there is an Iniesta vs Lampard debate, I'd bring it up. You surely know Iniesta would take Lampard to the cleaners in that aspect right?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Ibime(m): 1:14am On Jan 21
homesteady:


He didn't do anything, and the trio of Gerrard, Rio and Lampard spent a considerable amount of time talking about his game and praising him? The video was all over the Internet.

How many DMs do you know that would play as a single pivot in a team filled with non-physical players, with defenders keeping a very high line, with attack-minded fullbacks, even with attack-minded defenders, super star players that don't bother with defensive duties? Despite all these, he has led his team to two UCL trophies and led his country to International success.

Makelele was ignored, so it shouldn't be a shocker that Busquets is also ignored.


He is good on the ball no doubt, infact I love him on the ball, but don't act like he is a defensive lynchpin. He is severely lacking in defensive aspect.

It is easy to be DM in a team where the opponents will be sitting back, and you barely have to do work, yet the few times they attack, you will see Busquets escorting them.

Is he not the same player PSG dumped 5 on his head etc?

Makelele played in an era before FIFPRO11, UEFA team of the year etc. These days they give out several awards like candy. Makelele would have entered at least 3 FIFPRO11 or UEFA team of the year as the defensive midfielder from 2001 to 2006.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Adisaowalla: 1:17am On Jan 21
Ibime:


He is good on the ball no doubt, but don't act like he is a defensive lynchpin. He is severely lacking in defensive aspect.

It is easy to be DM in a team where the opponents will be sitting back, and you barely have to do work, yet the few times they attack, you will see Busquets escorting them.

Is he not the same player PSG dumped 5 on his head etc?

Makelele played in an era before FIFPRO11, UEFA team of the year etc. These days they give out several awards like candy. Makelele would have entered at least 3 FIFPRO11 or UEFA team of the year as the defensive midfielder from 2001 to 2006.

The man is comparing Busquets to Kante "Makelele-lino" (little Makelele) not the real Makelele na
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Ibime(m): 1:25am On Jan 21
homesteady:


We all know nobody agrees to such list when it doesn't favor them, so let's not go there. Or when next there is an Iniesta vs Lampard debate, I'd bring it up. You surely know Iniesta would take Lampard to the cleaners in that aspect right?

Anybody that takes Leicester to league title deserves his award. Do you know Busquets can relegate Leicester?

If you are still winning award 2 years after practical retirement like Dani Alves, or as an attacking player like Iniesta with no productive output, we will definitely question it.

But if like Busquets, you play for a great team where average players win awards, you garner plenty hype from the press, and you have been present for several victories, yet no one award you, we definitely know that something is wrong.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Ibime(m): 1:27am On Jan 21
Adisaowalla:


The man is comparing Busquets to Kante "Makelele-lino" (little Makelele) not the real Makelele na

No, he said Makelele never won award, and Busquets is unrecognised like Makelele. I had to remind him that for most of Makeleles career, you only get WPOTY and Midfielder of the year, not all this FIFPRO11 and numerous beauty pageants that Busquets can't win.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Ibime(m): 1:34am On Jan 21
@ homesteady, what am I saying sef? I just found out FIFPRO11 started in 2005 and Makelele was in the inaugural FIFPRO11. Bear in mind, he was 32 years old already. Imagine what he would win if FIFPRO was around when he was at Madrid.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by homesteady(m): 3:50am On Jan 21
Ibime:


He is good on the ball no doubt, infact I love him on the ball, but don't act like he is a defensive lynchpin. He is severely lacking in defensive aspect.

It is easy to be DM in a team where the opponents will be sitting back, and you barely have to do work, yet the few times they attack, you will see Busquets escorting them.

Is he not the same player PSG dumped 5 on his head etc?

Makelele played in an era before FIFPRO11, UEFA team of the year etc. These days they give out several awards like candy. Makelele would have entered at least 3 FIFPRO11 or UEFA team of the year as the defensive midfielder from 2001 to 2006.

The DM position in the Barcelona setup over the years is a delicate trap, that's why even almighty Mascherano couldn't bench Busquets. Until Rakitic came and shared the dirty duties with Busquets, he was doing it all alone.

It is easier to be the DM in a team whose set up leaves them prone to counter attacks? It is easier to be the DM in a team with many non-phyiscal players?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Coutinho14: 6:46am On Jan 21
airmark:


I'm not a coach bro.

Must your Ginho play, if he's no more bringing anything to the table? Ferdinand was not totally wrong:

“Jorginho’s someone who sets the tempo of a game. You get the ball into him through the middle third of the pitch, he’s very good.

“[But] How many assists has he got this season? Around 2,000 passes, no assists.

He’s not a great defender. Once a game gets like this against the big teams, he gets overrun in midfield.

He can’t run. So he doesn’t give you anything defensively, and he doesn’t give you anything up the other end of the pitch.”






This is the same reason i was asking for Busquets, to bring his lazy legs to epl, where every week he will be running 10,000km per match. cheesy

you no just dey tire for this your busquets non sense, keep trolling him while he keeps becoming one of the greatest dms of all times
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Unlimited22: 7:13am On Jan 21
Coutinho14:
you no just dey tire for this your busquets non sense, keep trolling him while he keeps becoming one of the greatest dms of all times
No, seriously, Busquets plays more with his mind than his feet. He's very good at keeping things simple, and is very difficult to dispossess (along with his propensity to exaggerate contact). He is integral to Barcelona's style. All that is true.

But as a DEFENSIVE midfielder, whose job is to mark and screen the defense, I doubt he can make it in the PL.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by popizaino(m): 7:19am On Jan 21
Ibime:


Not every player in an 11 must be great. Good players can also play for great teams.

Our job here is to sift the good from great. Barca cannot have the best 11 players in the world in every position. We respect Alves, Xavi and Messi as best in their positions, the others are good players playing with greatness.

AC Milan team of 1989 to 1994, often hailed the best club team ever, still has players like Albertini. Who be the Albertini for your team?

Busquets can't be the best DM, Pique best CB, Iniesta best AM, Alba best left back etc. Some even elevated Victor Valdes past his station, until Middlesbrough disgraced him.

Sorry to digress a bit .The bolded is now Barca of 2009 to 2012.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by popizaino(m): 7:23am On Jan 21
Unlimited22:

No, seriously, Busquets plays more with his mind than his feet. He's very good at keeping things simple, and is very difficult to dispossess (along with his propensity to exaggerate contact). He is integral to Barcelona's style. All that is true.

But as a DEFENSIVE midfielder, whose job is to mark and screen the defense, I doubt he can make it in the PL.


Pls tell me how carrick made it in the same epl having the same deficiency?Tell me

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Excallibur(m): 7:25am On Jan 21
Ibime:


Not every player in an 11 must be great. Good players can also play for great teams.

Our job here is to sift the good from great. Barca cannot have the best 11 players in the world in every position. We respect Alves, Xavi and Messi as best in their positions, the others are good players playing with greatness.

AC Milan team of 1989 to 1994, often hailed the best club team ever, still has players like Albertini. Who be the Albertini for your team?

Busquets can't be the best DM, Pique best CB, Iniesta best AM, Alba best left back etc. Some even elevated Victor Valdes past his station, until Middlesbrough disgraced him.
Victor Valdes elevated past his station ? for real ? abeg which barca fan did not curse Valdes . Whose weakness was bare for all to see even though he was playing with greatness. Why this greatness no overshadow players like Bojan, thiago, digne ,Fabregas, andre gomes, denis suarez , alexis...and why was mascherano relegated to cb
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: 2018 FA cup winner by Unlimited22: 7:27am On Jan 21
popizaino:



Pls tell me how carrick made it in the same epl having the same deficiency?Tell me
Busquets is slower, Carrick has a better passing range.

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