Ibeme:
Funny how Leverkusen are topping Bundesliga now after failing to make top 4 with Havertz last season.

They've not even added any player to their ranks really apart from Patrick Schick who isn't exactly threatening the goal charts with only 3 goals so far.

Could it be they sacrificed too much team stability to carry Havertz as a passenger last season?

Nah...don't think so.

madrid5:
it's one thing to say havertz has flopped in Chelsea which is fair,but calling havertz a passenger for leverkusen?abeg bros try nor dey talk spoil abeg

Na question. Cos when I watched their match against Sevilla abi na Inter, na passenger work I see, even though he scored.

Now him don comot, they are topping Bundesliga and undefeated in 12 games without any notable addition

Maybe na him passenger work been dey hold them back before

Village people dey learn work for where Ibime dey.

OVA200:
I only list Hazard as one of numerous players you always slander (thank God it's not only his name I listed) And I'm not debating Hazard with you because I agree with you on his woeful UCL stats.

The subject matter of me quoting you in the first place should be thrown away?
You citing Ole as Martial's problem should be overlooked?
And you ridiculing Bruno as only penalty merchant should be jumped?

Because I say Hazard is one of the player you always slander (which is true).

dm me

afrodoc2:
Village people dey learn work for where Ibime dey.

As in, when e start to they drag player like this.
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Ibeme:


Na question. Cos when I watched their match against Sevilla abi na Inter, na passenger work I see, even though he scored.

Now him don comot, they are topping Bundesliga and undefeated in 12 games without any notable addition

Maybe na him passenger work been dey hold them back before

he dey hold Dem back by being their best player?

I watched Leverkusen consistently in the Europa league and they’re really good for a team that lost their so called best player, I mostly took note of one Alario there

madrid5:
he dey hold Dem back by being their best player?

By being a passenger they sacrificed their whole team shape to accommodate. If 10 players say we will do all the work and give one player freedom, that player will be the best in the team regardless how average he is

nateevs:


I am surprised no one picked up on this.

Boss, we saw it.

We've come to realize that some persons here aren't worth engaging.

For my sanity, I turn blind eyes to such thoughts and opinions

Ibeme:


By being a passenger they sacrificed their whole team shape to accommodate. If 10 players say we will do all the work and give one player freedom, that player will be the best in the team regardless how average he is

baba u dey talk serious trash,do you have any evidence that they "sacrifice"their best shape for him or you pull this one from ur head,how many Leverkusen fans you know/tell u this,the guy played in many attacking positions for them so your point is gash.The only place havertz has issue is Chelsea FACT,not German and Leverkusen fans adore him.

afrodoc2:
Village people dey learn work for where Ibime dey.

We were being lenient and patient with the passenger, but his fanboys would not rest and want to down the whole club and blame other players. Some even want us to lose every game till the manager gets sacked and they feel they'll get a manager who will turn every other player into workhorse to accommodate the passenger who will be given freedom to stroll as he wants.

Therefore it's open season on the passenger. Just because we have been keeping quiet does not mean his performances haven't been disgusting right from day one

madrid5:
baba u dey talk serious trash,do you have any evidence that they "sacrifice"their best shape for him or you pull this one from ur head,how many Leverkusen fans you know/tell u this,the guy played in many attacking positions for them so your point is gash.The only place havertz has issue is Chelsea FACT,not German and Leverkusen fans adore him.

It's a possibility/probability I'm raising. I saw him playing RW and everyone else was still doing all his work for him, the opposition was overloading his wing, and Leverkusen was dragging midfielders out of their natural position to accommodate his laziness, creating gaps for Inter.

Results would suggest the only issue Leverkusen had was weakening their structure to accommodate Havertz which is why they are now top of their league and undefeated since he left

Chelsea is not Leverkusen that can bown before one lazy player and turn every other player into workhorse to accommodate.

He should take a cue from our other £72m benchwarmer Kepa

As much as we praise Marina we have really had one of the worst set of buys under her. We now have two 70 million flops, one bakayoko, one drink water and that right back that loves long range shot.
If havertz can just put a little passion in his game at least people go appreciate am about he no see Mount? We know say mount no too good like that but na Mr passion

Even West Ham benched their record signing and Lazio best player Felipe Anderson and sent him out on loan when his laziness got too much for them. What makes them think Chelsea won't do the same to Havertz if he keeps this up. This is Premier League, not monkey post football. He better sit up and show us what all the hype was about, cos what we have seen so far is worse than Barkley and RLC on their bad days.

If we had gone for coutinho,a proven attacking midfielder with EPL experience, we won't be here looking for Havertz suitable position after been told he could play anywhere in the midfield.

Ibeme:
Even West Ham benched their record signing and Lazio best player Felipe Anderson and sent him out on loan when his laziness got too much for them. What makes them think Chelsea won't do the same to Havertz if he keeps this up. This is Premier League, not monkey post football. He better sit up and show us what all the hype was about, cos what we have seen so far is worse than Barkley and RLC on their bad days.

Funny but true

Ibeme:


We were being lenient and patient with the passenger, but his fanboys would not rest and want to down the whole club and blame other players. Some even want us to lose every game till the manager gets sacked and they feel they'll get a manager who will turn every other player into workhorse to accommodate the passenger who will be given freedom to stroll as he wants.

Therefore it's open season on the passenger. Just because we have been keeping quiet does not mean his performances haven't been disgusting right from day one

Reminds me of Pogba fans that time.

Harvertz was an unnecessary buy it seems. If you are not going to play him as a 10 in a 4-2-3-1 it likely won’t work.

Has Lampard tried him at CF/False 9 yet? That might be the saving grace.

popizaino:





Funny but true

I won't be lying if I say RLC can also claim generational talent and claim everybody should work for him otherwise he's not doing again. Pure talent wise, RLC is by far more talented than most midfielders including Havertz. Talent is not hard to find, na the laziness be the issue.

Ibeme:


I won't be lying if I say RLC can also claim generational talent and claim everybody should work for him otherwise he's not doing again. Pure talent wise, RLC is by far more talented than most midfielders including Havertz. Talent is not hard to find, na the laziness be the issue.

I have heard so much about RLC talent. But I am not sure i have seen that much of it to justify the hype. What exactly are RLC’s talents?

afrodoc2:


I have heard so much about RLC talent. But I am not sure i have seen that much of it to justify the hype. What exactly are RLC’s talents?

The laziness won't let us see it, just like Havertz

Baba ibime rants be like person wey don bottle up his wife fvk ups for a year but can't take it anymore
Havertz in the mud

Ibeme:


I won't be lying if I say RLC can also claim generational talent and claim everybody should work for him otherwise he's not doing again. Pure talent wise, RLC is by far more talented than most midfielders including Havertz. Talent is not hard to find, na the laziness be the issue.

Except for his close control,i have not seen any special traits or attribute that gives one hope about the future in havertz self.I hope,i hope and I hope he comes good in Chelsea shirt.

EarlRagnar2:
Baba ibime rants be like person wey don bottle up his wife fvk ups for a year but can't take it anymore
Havertz in the mud

Seriously , but I'm still hoping he comes good sha

Can never by my number 2

Ibeme:


It's a possibility/probability I'm raising. I saw him playing RW and everyone else was still doing all his work for him, the opposition was overloading his wing, and Leverkusen was dragging midfielders out of their natural position to accommodate his laziness, creating gaps for Inter.

Results would suggest the only issue Leverkusen had was weakening their structure to accommodate Havertz which is why they are now top of their league and undefeated since he left

Chelsea is not Leverkusen that can bown before one lazy player and turn every other player into workhorse to accommodate.

He should take a cue from our other £72m benchwarmer Kepa

havertz is not a lazy player and Chelsea are not that better than Leverkusen you are around that level,Leverkusen is a top 4 team so is Chelsea,mason mount won't start for Leverkusen but he is a super star in Chelsea,that club has a better manager than fat Frank also.
I ask again do you have any proof that Leverkusen weakened their formation to accommodate their best player last season or not,their player who is verstile and played across the board,so you watch one match that the guy even scored in to support your thesis not even Leverkusen fans saw his weakness but you did?oga oh.

popizaino:


Except for his close control,i have not seen any special traits or attribute that gives one hope about the future in havertz self.I hope,i hope and I hope he comes good in Chelsea shirt.

he has very good finishing ,look at his goal rate for Germany and Leverkusen ,I repeat myseft na Chelsea get problem,just seen this guy to Bayern and watch.

madrid5:
havertz is not a lazy player and Chelsea are not that better than Leverkusen you are around that level,Leverkusen is a top 4 team so is Chelsea,mason mount won't start for Leverkusen but he is a super star in Chelsea,that club has a better manager than fat Frank also.
I ask again do you have any proof that Leverkusen weakened their formation to accommodate their best player last season or not,their player who is verstile and played across the board,so you watch one match that the guy even scored in to support your thesis not even Leverkusen fans saw his weakness but you did?oga oh.

Chelsea are not that better than Leverkusen?

Obvious grammatical error aside, how many trophies have Leverkusen won in the last decade?

afrodoc2:



Reminds me of Pogba fans that time.

Harvertz was an unnecessary buy it seems. If you are not going to play him as a 10 in a 4-2-3-1 it likely won’t work.

Has Lampard tried him at CF/False 9 yet? That might be the saving grace.

except he played alot of formations for Germany and Leverkusen and perform,he doesn't have any "saving grace" and special formation,lampard himseft nor know anything lol,I think say lampard call am for phone tell am the formation and tactics wey e go play ,now lampard dey do cross and inshallah,if Chelsea losses to westham and arsenal/man City Dem nor go question their donot manager oh na havertz Dem go drag even if e dey bench.
When international break resume watch this same havertz go back to getting goals and assist at an exceptional rate,his stat speak for him except Chelsea,maybe na covid effect Sha,he was playing better than this before that.

Unlimited22:

Chelsea are not that better than Leverkusen?

Obvious grammatical error aside, how many trophies have Leverkusen won in the last decade?

dude this current Chelsea team are not that better than Leverkusen ,na lampard and mount win the "last decade" trophies

rooftops:
As much as we praise Marina we have really had one of the worst set of buys under her. We now have two 70 million flops, one bakayoko, one drink water and that right back that loves long range shot.
If havertz can just put a little passion in his game at least people go appreciate am about he no see Mount? We know say mount no too good like that but na Mr passion

Blueangel444 come out,

madrid5:
dude this current Chelsea team are not that better than Leverkusen ,na lampard and mount win the "last decade" trophies

How come they're in the Europa league then?

When was the last time they won a trophy and which trophy was it?