Jodera:
Did you notice his leg position?
Does that leg position looks like a leg that intended a pass?

This image Nihilist posted says it all...

Very glaring to everyone to see he went for goal.

Maybe he was creating chance for Keeper, it can never be Kimmich.

User09:


What is point blank there momadaran oo

There's a lot of pseudo stuff in most of your comments which I hold back from responding to most times. U really need to take your time before spouting some of the stuffs u do say .

I'll tell u what happens 99 times out of 100 in that scenario. The keeper catches the ball without Kai

If this range is not point blank, I don't know what else is.

This is why I try as much as possible not to put mouth in anything Havertz and Mount. Because anything someone says will automatically mean he is taking sides.

Whatever makes you sleep well at night man. Carry go.

donstan18:

This image Nihilist posted says it all...

Very glaring to everyone to see he went for goal.

Maybe he was creating chance for Keeper, it can never be Kimmich.

Very very very glaring.
The way dem dey talk am, e go be like say most of us no play field football to understand all these basics

User09:


Every Image u put up is testament to Havertz brilliant mind and moves.

Go back 2seconds and see how he makes the brilliant run

I have already mentioned here how he made that exact run for 3 of the goals Germany scored, so nobody is disputing that run.

What we are disputing is the lie that this was a pass.

I mean come on brah...for starters Kimmich would be offside if he was where that ball landed

Secondly, we can see someone clearly aiming for the bottom right corner. I mean, that's exactly where he placed the goal he scored ffs ( 2nd pic)

I meannnnnn.....

nihilistjnr:


I have already mentioned here how he made that exact run for 3 of the goals Germany scored, so nobody is disputing that run.

What we are disputing is the lie that this was a pass.

I mean come on brah...for starters Kimmich would be offside if he was where that ball landed

Secondly, we can see someone clearly aiming for the bottom right corner. I mean, that's exactly where he placed the goal he scored ffs ( 2nd pic)

I meannnnnn.....

Two things.

Kai didnt connect properly with the ball as best as he would have liked and Kimmich was a bit late with his runs

Jodera:
Very very very glaring.
The way dem dey talk am, e go be like say most of us no play field football to understand all these basics

You went too far with the playing ball part, ordinary game na normal L1Box will be your surest option, if you no sabi lob you go just press box hoping for keeper to jonze.

How can you be creating chance for Kimmich you didn’t see here??

timbros:


If this range is not point blank, I don't know what else is.

This is why I try as much as possible not to put mouth in anything Havertz and Mount. Because anything someone says will automatically mean he is taking sides.

Whatever makes you sleep well at night man. Carry go.

It is disingenuous to use still images for your analysis while ignoring what happened in real time and in motion. I mean Kai had to stretch at full length to reach that ball

Anyway let's just agree to disagree. I feel like I have gone on this for far too long

Using angular perspective to deceive gullible people

Looking at the event from the perceptive of the deceitful image that he posted

You wonder how fast kimmich runs to be able to catch a ball in motion that was a few inches away from the touchline

I have already explained that kimmich's final position shouldn't be used to judge havertz's intentions, if he moved along with havertz, it would have been an easy tap in, this plot hole is imaginary, find another to push your agenda

Havertz10:
Using angular perspective to deceive gullible people

Looking at the event from the perceptive of the deceitful image that he posted

You wonder how fast kimmich runs to be able to catch a ball in motion that was a few inches away from the touchline

I have already explained that kimmich's final position shouldn't be used to judge havertz's intentions, if he moved along with havertz, it would have been an easy tap in, your plot hole is imaginary, find another to push your agenda

Why didn’t he create chance here?

donstan18:

Why didn’t he create chance here?

because he intended to score

Where he is and how he receives the ball determines his actions

User09:


It is disingenuous to use still images for your analysis while ignoring what happened in real time and in motion.

Anyway let's just agree to disagree. I feel like I have gone on this for far too long

I never pointed out Havertz10 misinformation based on still image. He posted a video and based on that video I corrected his analysis.

I don't know what you are going on and on about.

Didn't the video show Havertz one on one with the goalkeeper? What is NOT point blank there?

Havertz10:
Using angular perspective to deceive gullible people

Looking at the event from the perceptive of the deceitful image that he posted

You wonder how fast kimmich runs to be able to catch a ball in motion that was a few inches away from the touchline

I have already explained that kimmich's final position shouldn't be used to judge havertz's intentions, if he moved along with havertz, it would have been an easy tap in, your plot hole is imaginary, find another to push your agenda

It only angers me when people analyse football with images. Is that not self deceit. How can you analyse a highly mobile activity with images; while disregarding a GIF. Talk about willful ignorance.

Havertz10:
because he intended to score

Where he is and how he receives the ball determines his actions

He intended to score because he scored, but the one he missed, you switched that he intended to create chance.

Toni Kroos retires from international football.

timbros:


I never pointed out Havertz10 misinformation based on still image. He posted a video and based on that video I corrected his analysis.

I don't know what you are going on and on about.

Didn't the video show Havertz one on one with the goalkeeper? What is NOT point blank there?

I have updated my comment above

Germany will tweet about Fraudvertz, you’ll post it to brag.

But when Chelsea tweet about Mount, you’ll start crying.

Can we all see why I said they are bitter because England do it better than Germany.

donstan18:

He intended to score because he scored, but the one he missed, you switched that he intended to create chance.

havertz missed a chance he created himself against arsenal

He missed a chance against madrid, I didn't say that he was trying to do anything, I called it what it was, a chance missed

donstan18:

Why didn’t he create chance here?

How does this images relate with the other one?

You too like follow follow.... You barely argue on what you have inner conviction of; only on the opinion of those you believe know better. Such disposition to conformity is appalling

User09:


I have updated my comment above

I totally agree with you that Havertz didn't connect well with the ball the way he intended to.

If he had connected well with the ball, it should have been a Havertz goal. No need for Kimmich return pass, no need for own goal.

That was a miscued effort. And no one is dragging him for that. It happens in football.

Havertz10:
havertz missed a chance he created himself against arsenal

He missed a chance against madrid, I didn't say that he was trying to do anything, I called it what it was, a chance missed

And you want us to use him as false9.

swiz123:


It only angers me when people analyse football with images. Is that not self deceit. How can you analyse a highly mobile activity with images; while disregarding a GIF. Talk about willful ignorance.

sentimental agenda

Don't stress yourself, tuchel is intelligent, he watched the euros, Chelsea data analysts watched the euros

They know what to do, these people will shamefully collect their L's

They did the same thing from October to December, same people supported Lampard and refused to accept that he wasn't good enough, I was praying for us to lose games so Lampard can be sacked on time, they called me names, na dem celebrate the champions league victory pass me, airmark that called tuchel a failure went about trolling people because we won, no shame

i'm used to them

swiz123:


How does this images relate with the other one?

You too like follow follow.... You barely argue on what you have inner conviction of; only on the opinion of those you believe know better. Such disposition to conformity is appalling

In the first picture, he went for goal and scored. You and your hypocritical likes hyped him.

In the second picture, he went for goal and missed, instead of you especially to admit he missed the goal, you started capping shiit, saying he wanted to create chance for Kimmich.

If creating chances was more important to him in that position, why didn’t he create the same chance for Muller in the first picture?

donstan18:

You went too far with the playing ball part, ordinary game na normal L1Box will be your surest option, if you no sabi lob you go just press box hoping for keeper to jonze.

How can you be creating chance for Kimmich you didn’t see here?

Na story for the gods dem dey give.

They're forgetting that kimmich is a wingback/defender and not a winger, hence he should be positionally stationed in such a way in case of any counterattack that might happen

Mount assist.... Na havertz ingenuity
Pulisic score Madrid... Na havertz ingenuity
Kimmich struggled to keep ball alive... Na havertz ingenuity

Ah ah

donstan18:

And you want us to use him as false9.

i have suggested that he plays 10 so many times here, I have argued that we should sign haaland

I don't want havertz to play 9

This entire argument started because I was telling user09 that in that instance havertz showed his true instincts, he preferred to lay the ball for another player than go for goal

He is a creative player not a striker

Jodera:
Na story for the gods dem dey give.

They're forgetting that kimmich is a wingback/defender and not a winger, hence he should be positionally stationed in such a way in case of any counterattack that might happen

Mount assist.... Na havertz ingenuity
Pulisic score Madrid... Na havertz ingenuity
Kimmich struggled to keep ball alive... Na havertz ingenuity

Ah ah

Why do I have the feelings they hate Fraudvertz and indirectly setting him up.

timbros:


I totally agree with you that Havertz didn't connect well with the ball the way he intended to.

If he had connected well with the ball, it should have been a Havertz goal. No need for Kimmich return pass, no need for own goal

That was a miscued effort. And no one is dragging him for that. It happens in football.

Simple!

Havertz10:
i have suggested that he plays 10 so many times here, I have argued that we should sign haaland

I don't want havertz to play 9

This entire argument started because I was telling user09 that in that instance havertz showed his true instincts, he preferred to lay the ball for another player than go for goal

He is a creative player not a striker

We play 3-4-3, where should he play?

This thread has become quite predictable!

User09:


Two things.

Kai didnt connect properly with the ball as best as he would have liked

Nobody argued this one with you.

Just dont lie that it was any kind of pass, because it wasn't

Nawa oo, e be like stanning don blind some people's logic for here

donstan18:

In the first picture, he went for goal and scored. You and your hypocritical likes hyped him.

In the second picture, he went for goal and missed, instead of you especially to admit he missed the goal, you started capping shiit, saying he wanted to create chance for Kimmich.

If creating chances was more important to him in that position, why didn’t he create the same chance to Muller in the first picture?

It is erroneous to argue football with images because football is mobile while images are still.

It is even more erroneous, perhaps deceitful to use two images that does not in any way correlate. I can't debate meaningless stuff this afternoon

Roland17:
This thread has become quite predictable!

As league never start, wetin you expect?