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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:11pm On Apr 07, 2022
The same scenario here....The "almighty" pace merchant mbappe vs "fear to mark" vvd

Cc raumdeuter,Oya watch this and tell me it is not vvd genius

https://twitter.com/ArsenalSensible/status/1038889273590784003?t=gXa3HJUQ1pNaUyLaH54KZg&s=19
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:12pm On Apr 07, 2022
CAPdan21:

See monkey post analyst...1 vs 2 with no incoming support but VVD should cover all avenues for shooting??...Dem dey disgrace defenders 1v1 talkless of 2v1, maybe he should behave like boathand against Messi, neither making a tackle nor blocking the pass cuz that's what dayo calls expert marking...Smh

This is Boateng facing a similar situation in a world cup final

Aguero/Messi broke away another Argentine was on the other side of Boateng waiting for the pass making it a 2v1

He didnt back away he faced the ball carrier and dispossesed him like a boss

Thats the way people win world cups and treble

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:13pm On Apr 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


Sissoko had a free pathway to goal and messed it up, VVD was not even trying to stop Sissoko, he was more focused on Son

Sissoko just chose to be useless

Mbappe had similar situation as Sissoko,he fumbled it too....it is down to the genius of vvd
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:14pm On Apr 07, 2022
CAPdan21:

See monkey post analyst...1 vs 2 with no incoming support but VVD should cover all avenues for shooting??...Dem dey disgrace defenders 1v1 talkless of 2v1, maybe he should behave like boathand against Messi, neither making a tackle nor blocking the pass cuz that's what dayo calls expert marking...Smh
Prime Messi in that situation will so much deal with VVD.

VVD isn’t a good with marking.

Everybody knows this, he’s not a risk taker like the likes of Terry, Vidic and Ramos.

Man relies on his partner’s dirty work while forming leadership. Just like Silva.

A good and intelligent striker will reduce VVD’s worth to 2k in that situation.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:15pm On Apr 07, 2022
Finesse007:
The same scenario here....The "almighty" pace merchant mbappe vs "fear to mark" vvd

Cc raumdeuter,Oya watch this and tell me it is not vvd genius

https://twitter.com/ArsenalSensible/status/1038889273590784003?t=gXa3HJUQ1pNaUyLaH54KZg&s=19

Genius is Mbappe facing 3 defenders? and having to go outside which is away from the crowd, narrowing the angle and getting his shot blocked

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:16pm On Apr 07, 2022
Finesse007:
The same scenario here....The "almighty" pace merchant mbappe vs "fear to mark" vvd

Cc raumdeuter,Oya watch this and tell me it is not vvd genius

https://twitter.com/ArsenalSensible/status/1038889273590784003?t=gXa3HJUQ1pNaUyLaH54KZg&s=19
Stop embarrassing yourself.

How many French players were there for a pass like what we’re arguing?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 6:17pm On Apr 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


The first 2 goals were Silvas fault. Another example of him being found wanting on big occasions

You cant deny that Thiago Silva was instrumental to chelsea UCL win last year. Throughout the competition. So your logic is a bit flawed.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:17pm On Apr 07, 2022
donstan18:

Prime Messi in that situation will so much deal with VVD.

VVD isn’t a good with marking.

Everybody knows this, he’s not a risk taker like the likes of Terry, Vidic and Ramos.

Man relies on his partner’s dirty work while forming leadership. Just like Silva.

A good and intelligent striker will reduce VVD’s worth to 2k in that situation.

Na ordinary Martial catch am and rub am in the mud like the below



In all your years of watching football, when did you see a striker dribble a defender, now help to nurse him back up so he can re-dribble again

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:20pm On Apr 07, 2022
lordfalcao:
funny. Kante was at the back of benzema, but Jorginho who was coming from the referee position should be the one pressing benzema

Bias

Kante went to deal with Kroos. Benz is in Jogginghoe line of sight while Kante is doing a forward press to the man on the ball (pic 1). You wouldn't know nothing about team marking if it hits you in the face. At this point Jog has one job, which is to run and fill in that space that Silva has vacated to help Chris, same with Rudiger (pic 2). This is normal expectation from a CB when they go to help a fullback in distress, that the DM or CB partner will immediately fill in.

By pic 3, Jog is in a much better position to do so than Kante and based on angle, does not have further to run than Benzema. In your mind, he has to run to Benzema because you no sabi ball, that's why you are talking nonsense about being behind referee. His job is to run to that box where Benzema is going, not to run in the direction of referee.

In pic 4, he actually does his job in a similar scenario, filling in the space that Benz is about to run into for that slide

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:20pm On Apr 07, 2022
donstan18:

Stop embarrassing yourself.

How many French players were there for a pass like what we’re arguing?

Lmao,you don shift goalpost ba......but you said Sissoko was unintelligent with 2% shot accuracy that blast ball over....

Now I showed you mbappe with better speed,better shot accuracy,more intelligent on same one on one vs vvd and he didn't score...lmao,so now mbappe needs help from teammates grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:20pm On Apr 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


Na ordinary Martial catch am and rub am in the mud like the below



In all your years of watching football, when did you see a striker dribble a defender, now help to nurse him back up so he can re-dribble again

VVD is a good leader and organizer, but he’s not good with marking. He’s sincerely a coward who doesn’t take risk to mark quality dribblers.

Relies on other people’s dirty work. I like him personally, but still believe he’s lucky not to face the brutal, clinical, physical and technical strikers when football was so serious for players.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:21pm On Apr 07, 2022
CapitalCee:


You cant deny that Thiago Silva was instrumental to chelsea UCL win last year. Throughout the competition. So your logic is a bit flawed.

Actually no.
Vs Atletico he was on the stand jumping while the teammates ere slugging it on the field
Vs Madrid he was culpable for the only goal conceded against the same Benzema
vs City in the final, he was substituted in the first half

So how was he instrumental?

If you are to name players instrumental you will name Kante Mendy Rudiger Jorginho, Mount Harvetz even Pulisic before you name Silva

Silvas entire CL he has always been found wanting in key moment

Its on record that the greatest disgrace of losing a 4-0 first leg lead to 6-1 as supervised by Thiago Silva. PSG vs Barcelona

The only thing covering him a bit is the community defence. Yesterday showed why he has never led a defence to win major titles

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:22pm On Apr 07, 2022
Finesse007:


Lmao,you don shift goalpost ba......but you said Sissoko was unintelligent with 2% shot accuracy that blast ball over....

Now I showed you mbappe with better speed,better shot accuracy,more intelligent on same one on one vs vvd and he didn't score...lmao,so now mbappe needs help from teammates grin grin
In Sissoko and Salah video that surfaced here, they had team mate showing up for passes.

Can you show me a French player that showed up for Mbappe.

Mbappe vs 3 defenders? Nobody to help.

You sef, reason Wetin we dey argue nh
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:23pm On Apr 07, 2022
donstan18:

VVD is a good leader and organizer, but he’s not good with marking. He’s sincerely a coward who doesn’t take risk to mark quality dribblers.

Relies on other people’s dirty work. I like him personally, but still believe he’s lucky not to face the brutal, clinical, physical and technical strikers when football was so serious for players.

Like you said he is smart he runs away from situation like that

There was a time vs Barcelona when he was shouting on Robertson to come and help him mark Messi so that he can point

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 6:23pm On Apr 07, 2022
donstan18:

Prime Messi in that situation will so much deal with VVD.

VVD isn’t a good with marking.

Everybody knows this, he’s not a risk taker like the likes of Terry, Vidic and Ramos.

Man relies on his partner’s dirty work while forming leadership. Just like Silva.

A good and intelligent striker will reduce VVD’s worth to 2k in that situation.
VVD not good with marking, according to who??..most 1v1 duel on the pitch favors the attacker so I don't understand what point you're trying to make ...Call your best defender and Messi will still disgrace them, the fact is that VVD was not facing Messi but sissoko and he did enough any other thing is headcanon

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:24pm On Apr 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


Like you said he is smart he runs away from situation like that

There was a time vs Barcelona when he was shouting on Robertson to come and help him mark Messi so that he can point
He didn’t do it once in that match. grin cheesy

Man never got close to Messi. He’s always avoiding situations that might lead to embarrassment.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 6:24pm On Apr 07, 2022
popizaino:



While I completely agree with you that we need change some of our players, the other thing we fail to notice is that Tuchel needs to alter some of his approach when his trailing behind. What is this with excessive ground short passes when you are trailing behind? This man was losing against man united with his PSG side and verratti and Thiago were busy carrassing the ball at the back. This man could sign Paul scholes who greatest strength is long passes and he will suppress them by asking them to always give the nearest man the ball. We can sign good players but if this guy doesn't change some things, we would only be good for second place finish in the league not actual winners.

I know many emotional Chelsea fans will crucify me but the Lottery UCL win Tuchel got last season opened the door for the FIFA WCC and Super Cup. Tuchel with his approach can never dominate a league. He came 2nd behind Juve in group stage and was lucky to draw Lille. Do you guys honestly see Tuchel coming near to winning the league? his only opportunity will be to fluke cup competitions and grab the possible super cups that comes with it. His style of play is not progressive he is a Sean Dyche with more expensive and quality squad.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:25pm On Apr 07, 2022
CAPdan21:

VVD not good with marking, according to who??..most 1v1 duel on the pitch favors the attacker so I don't understand what point you're trying to make ...Call your best defender and Messi will still disgrace them, the fact is that VVD was not facing Messi but sissoko and he did enough any other thing is headcanon
Bros, relax and understand life.

VVD is a coward. Period!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 6:26pm On Apr 07, 2022
CapitalCee:


I know many emotional Chelsea fans will crucify me but the Lottery UCL win Tuchel got last season opened the door for the FIFA WCC and Super Cup. Tuchel with his approach can never dominate a league. He came 2nd behind Juve in group stage and was lucky to draw Lille. Do you guys honestly see Tuchel coming near to winning the league? his only opportunity will be to fluke cup competitions and grab the possible super cups that comes with it. His style of play is not progressive he is a Sean Dyche with more expensive and quality squad.

Werey say na lottery UCL win cheesy. Why Ole no win am

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 6:26pm On Apr 07, 2022
Finesse007:


Lmao,you don shift goalpost ba......but you said Sissoko was unintelligent with 2% shot accuracy that blast ball over....

Now I showed you mbappe with better speed,better shot accuracy,more intelligent on same one on one vs vvd and he didn't score...lmao,so now mbappe needs help from teammates grin grin
Leave them...they think it is monkey post where only last man can repel 2 men for up to 20s, even then sef e hard...one man should cover all avenues for shooting at that big goalposts all because of agenda
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:27pm On Apr 07, 2022
CapitalCee:


I know many emotional Chelsea fans will crucify me but the Lottery UCL win Tuchel got last season opened the door for the FIFA WCC and Super Cup. Tuchel with his approach can never dominate a league. He came 2nd behind Juve in group stage and was lucky to draw Lille. Do you guys honestly see Tuchel coming near to winning the league? his only opportunity will be to fluke cup competitions and grab the possible super cups that comes with it. His style of play is not progressive he is a Sean Dyche with more expensive and quality squad.
Reasonable and honest Chelsea fans won’t crucify you for saying the truth. cheesy

Lampard will always be the reason Tuchel won all he’s won for us. I won’t stop saying this until he starts a tournament from the scratch and win it for us.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:28pm On Apr 07, 2022
donstan18:

Bros, relax and understand life.

VVD is a coward. Period!!

Person wey dey run from Morata

As in Morata

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 6:28pm On Apr 07, 2022
donstan18:
Bros, relax and understand life.
VVD is a coward. Period!!
Oga risk taker...no wonder you spend all your time talking thrash on NL...Lmao

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:30pm On Apr 07, 2022
CAPdan21:

Oga risk taker...no wonder you spend all your time talking thrash on NL...Lmao
Had to confirm you’re a Liverpool fan.

CAPdan21:
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL LIVERPOOL FANS #YNWA

You’re simply a pathetic eediot for going personal. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:31pm On Apr 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


Person wey dey run from Morata

As in Morata
I can imagine Ramos vs Morata. cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 6:32pm On Apr 07, 2022
airmark:


Who is Henry? Benzema is even greater than Ronaldo de Lima. He is the greatest striker ever.

Don't hide behind sarcasms. Come out plain and tell if if you think Henry is better and why.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:33pm On Apr 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


Na ordinary Martial catch am and rub am in the mud like the below



In all your years of watching football, when did you see a striker dribble a defender, now help to nurse him back up so he can re-dribble again


Aiyegbeni has done this to Ferdinand and Vidic as a Maccabi Haifa player and at Everton and Pompey.....Torres does it always to Vidic, Agbonlahor,van Persie made Terry crawl and lie down flat but few times vvd is dribbled past,you people celebrate it like a trophy....

I remember how Arsenal fans celebrated pepe running past vvd and ending his dribbling past record more than Liverpool fans celebrating winning the match.....internet caught fire when that Salzburg striker cut vvd to score.....make una allow elite vvd rest na cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:33pm On Apr 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


Person wey dey run from Morata

As in Morata

You dey cap nonsense. You can't see that Henderson has pointed that they should take the runner and he will worry about Morata.

That move VVD made in the direction of the striker was actually class and deals with the bigger threat of a one-on-one through the middle rather than Morata being pulled wide while shadowed by Henderson. The way VVD ran toward that last man, knowing where he is without looking at him, while turning his head fully toward Morata is a level of intelligence you will never understand. The fumble here is Henderson who did not follow through with his chase of Morata and was paused by Moratas drop of the shoulder, forcing VVD to change strategy having fully covered the last man.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ShadowCracker(m): 6:34pm On Apr 07, 2022
Liverpool have signed another low-key gem.

While we are stuck with Hudson-Odoi embarassed embarassed.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:35pm On Apr 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


Person wey dey run from Morata

As in Morata

If you think he is running from Morata then football is not for you

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 6:36pm On Apr 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


Actually no.
Vs Atletico he was on the stand jumping while the teammates ere slugging it on the field
Vs Madrid he was culpable for the only goal conceded against the same Benzema
vs City in the final, he was substituted in the first half

So how was he instrumental?

If you are to name players instrumental you will name Kante Mendy Rudiger Jorginho, Mount Harvetz even Pulisic before you name Silva

Silvas entire CL he has always been found wanting in key moment

Its on record that the greatest disgrace of losing a 4-0 first leg lead to 6-1 as supervised by Thiago Silva. PSG vs Barcelona

The only thing covering him a bit is the community defence. Yesterday showed why he has never led a defence to win major titles

I never knew all these things sha. But how was he at fault for Benzema goal last season

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:36pm On Apr 07, 2022
Ibime:


You dey cap nonsense. You can't see that Henderson has pointed that they should take the runner and he will worry about Morata.

That move VVD made in the direction of the striker was actually class and deals with the bigger threat of a one-on-one through the middle vs Morata being pulled wide while shadowed by Henderson. The fumble here is Henderson who did not follow through with his chase of Morata and was paused by Moratas drop of the shoulder, forcing VVD to change strategy having fully covered the last man.


Henderson Pointed Gomez to take care of the runner, VVD was the closest to Morata and was backing away. Morata had no intention of doing anything with the ball and would have gladly falled down to claim freekick, it was VVD backing away that gave him confidence to move until it became dangerous

A better defender would have harrased Morata earlier and won the ball quicker but VVD is used to fleeing and not taking responsibility

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