Nihilist:


Alonso has been a problem this season?

diggz:


Moses!!!! Not Alonzo bros.

MoR2:
don't think conte would change that his formation

but for just return to 343 but with cesar playing rwb.

you get wetin i dey talk, as per use rudiger, chris, cahill. then cesar, kante, drinks/fab, alonso. pedro, morata and hazard

bakayoko can play last 15mins so kante can play all the games.

for me o, returning to a back 4 for make sense. seeing as english teams don abandon conte free the 3 at the back formation.

5years of defensive minded managers, chelsea they try o

diggz:



I am surprised aswear.

atheist5:
really,so why are fans clamouring for Sandro?,Alonso has an eye for goal so that covers his actual performance,he alongside his co-wingack are not good enough,lack of speed a major factor

MoR2:
for the opponents

raumdeuter:
Oxlade Chamberlain saw space and took a shot

If na Hazard he will stop so that all the defenders will recover then start again to increase his take-on stats

Dongorgon5:
Na here we go they when messi and co dey target his place........He always try his best tho,but we need a quality lwb that can cross

Nihilist:



The liverpool midfield that would 'walk into our team' include Oxlade, Wijnaldum and Can

If i bring out comments from this thread about each of those players, you go fear fear. Oxlade in particular was being priced by Conte as a reserve fullback.

All of a sudden, he would stroll into our midfield.

Also im not scapegoating Morata, i was making a point about the argument with lordfalcao where he said Morata did not get any clear cut chance against Leicester.

I could be really petty and remind you about how Morata is supposed to be enabling his team mates score more goals.

The only point im making is the same one ive been making since the start of the season - Morata needs to fall less, and score more. He needs to escape the sunken place.

And im sure you know I've been shouting for Hazard to improve his mentality in the box for the last two years, so it's not like there's a bias ting.

Dongorgon5:
You've raised good points sir....I'm not a big fan of Morata,but I feel Egbon nihilist is looking for a scape goat,We have bigger problem with the likes of bakayoko Alonso moses and co who are average at best

nateevs:



Can, Wijnaldum and Oxlade will upgrade Drinkwater, Bakayoko and Moses in an instant. If anyone is stil in doubt about this, then they have not been paying attention. It matters less what has been said on this forum. Wise heads like Ibime, Griffon et al have been talking about midfield strength for eons. I joined in late on the topic but I came to terms when I saw the srength in their arguments. So this will not happen "all of a sudden". It has been brewing for ages. Then we made it worse by spending £75m on average midfielders.


The scape-goating continues I see. I never see you criticise Bakayoko for a single second. And you say there's no bias? Even you know this Nihilist.

Does Morata need to stay on his feet more? Yes! Could he have converted some of his chances? Yes! But the main question is still being evaded. If we don't have Morata playing against City; and as such, no one to "scape-goat", who is/are going to score 4 goals against City? I need you to answer this question.

atheist5:
I just tire,conte is frustrating me,the 5 defenders are useless at this point,conte is too rigid,gosh

nateevs:



Can, Wijnaldum and Oxlade will upgrade Drinkwater, Bakayoko and Moses in an instant

PietroRico:
Can, wijnaldum and ox are upgrades on all the midfielders at your club but some of your perpetually drunk fans have the nerve to chat shít about lord Pogba from time to time. Nonsense

nateevs:



Can, Wijnaldum and Oxlade will upgrade Drinkwater, Bakayoko and Moses in an instant. If anyone is stil in doubt about this, then they have not been paying attention. It matters less what has been said on this forum. Wise heads like Ibime, Griffon et al have been talking about midfield strength for eons. I joined in late on the topic but I came to terms when I saw the srength in their arguments. So this will not happen "all of a sudden". It has been brewing for ages. Then we made it worse by spending £75m on average midfielders.


The scape-goating continues I see. I never see you criticise Bakayoko for a single second. And you say there's no bias? Even you know this Nihilist.

Does Morata need to stay on his feet more? Yes! Could he have converted some of his chances? Yes! But the main question is still being evaded. If we don't have Morata playing against City; and as such, no one to "scape-goat", who is/are going to score 4 goals against City? I need you to answer this question.

nateevs:

You allowed to change that point pf view to anything. Good players, Star players. However, given that the premise of the debate was that the inclusion of Toni Kroos, Modric, Benzema, Ronaldo, Isco, helps bring out the best in Bale, you are the one saying the rubbish. If you think that this is not the case, ask them to sell Ronaldo, Modric and Kroos and replace them Drinkwater, Emre Can and Slimani; then we see if Bale's productivity will not decline.

Ibime:


Barkley is a non starter in midfield. Maybe he can succeed as a winger with good coaching, but not as WB or CM

Ox as a wingback is fine, though he is yet to convince me in a midfield 2, plus his injury record is terrible. I would prefer to grab him on free transfer next year than pay money for him now.

Ibime:


Gary Cahill won every trophy in club football within 3.5 years of joining Chelsea.

I will not cry if Oxlade doesn't come. That dude can.be injury prone and defensively suspect in that WB position anyway. . . plus the price is too high for a dude with 1 year on contract.

He should go to Liverpool and chop bench behind Keita, Wijnaldum and Can. How is that my business?

Does Morata need to stay on his feet more? Yes! Could he have converted some of his chances? Yes!

Nihilist:


This is you on Emre Can, putting him in exactly the same category as Drinkwater who he will 'Upgrade in an instant'


This Ibime on Ox. There was even one post where he said Ox runs to much to play in midfield. I just can't find it.





Now all of a sudden, Oxlade and Can are the players Wise Heads like yourself and Ibime have been calling for, for a long time.

My stance on Bakayoko is linked to a bet. I expect to win a pair of trainers based on his exploits on the pitch. You don't expect me to badmouth someone I am emotionally and financially invested in, do you?






Wow...a month truly is a long time in Football.

Nihilist:


This is you on Emre Can, putting him in exactly the same category as Drinkwater who he will 'Upgrade in an instant'


This Ibime on Ox. There was even one post where he said Ox runs to much to play in midfield. I just can't find it.





Now all of a sudden, Oxlade and Can are the players Wise Heads like yourself and Ibime have been calling for, for a long time.

My stance on Bakayoko is linked to a bet. I expect to win a pair of trainers based on his exploits on the pitch. You don't expect me to badmouth someone I am emotionally and financially invested in, do you?






Wow...a month truly is a long time in Football.

nateevs:



Alonso has been top draw. That is one fine footballer. He may not have pace like Pedro and Willian but his football brain is top level.

Emaprince:
Can, wijnadum and Ox will be an instant upgrade on the trio mentioned by Nateevs. I agree with this. Wijnadum is not even excellent but he's better than bakayoko.

Emaprince:
Hmm... I dont know how i feel about this ox though. Dude is neither good defensively nor in attack. What position is he coming to boost for us?


Last time I saw him play LWB, he was fantastic especially going forward. But i'm not sure he can displace Alonso, especially now Alonso is showing that he can bail the team out in difficult time.


RWB? I'm not sure about that either.

Let me just trust in Conte's magical transformation of players. He did it with moses, pedro and alonso. He can replicate it in Ox too.

Nihilist:

Quick stat: Morata has received 5 yellow cards this season....ALL have been for dissent.


.

jaysmallz:


His yellow card on Saturday wasn't for dissent

Nihilist:


This is you on Emre Can, putting him in exactly the same category as Drinkwater who he will 'Upgrade in an instant'


This Ibime on Ox. There was even one post where he said Ox runs to much to play in midfield. I just can't find it.





Now all of a sudden, Oxlade and Can are the players Wise Heads like yourself and Ibime have been calling for, for a long time.

My stance on Bakayoko is linked to a bet. I expect to win a pair of trainers based on his exploits on the pitch. You don't expect me to badmouth someone I am emotionally and financially invested in, do you?






Wow...a month truly is a long time in Football.

Nihilist:


That was his 6th

I was talking about his first 5

nateevs:



I am not sure what the point you are making is. I can see fan boys already cheering you without checking.
So what if some people made statements about what they saw at the time? What they saw at the time was exactly what it was - what they saw at the time.

Jeez, go and check what people were saying about Sterling and Lindgaard this time last year. Do you mind helping us with digging?
This month, people are saying Sterling and Lingard are light years above Hazard. Why? Because of what they see now.
So yes mate, one month is a phucking long time in football.

I am not sure what the exercise proves. It's just one of those things that people do in a futile atempt to score one on others. It doesn't make a difference because you are evading the crucial question and clutching at straws.

Do I want Can and Wijaldum in my team? Are you phucking kidding me? You know I campaigned for two seasons straight for Koke and Verratti. So imagine my shock when we ended up with Yoko and Drinkwater.

Are Can and Wijaldum elite level? Hell No? Do I want them ? Hell No! Despite this, will they upgrade Yoko and Drinkwater? Absolutely!

So what's the point you proved?

nateevs:
Games like this in the future could feature Kante, Bakayoko and Drinkwater in midfield.

These three will over-work any opposing team and still output a decent level of creativity.

We could be very strong this year.

Answer the question Nihilist and stop dodging.
If we don't have Morata playing against City; and as such, no one to "scape-goat", who is/are going to score 4 goals against City? I need you to answer this question.

nateevs:

Are Can and Wijaldum elite level? Hell No? Do I want them ? Hell No! Despite this, will they upgrade Yoko and Drinkwater? Absolutely!

nateevs:


Hatred has consumed you. According to your last post, Lukaku ballooned the chance because the chance fell on his weaker foot. But you just posted a gif (the second one), with a missed chance by Morata; except the chance fell on his weaker foot and you didn't see it.

The desire to slag off Morata is greater than the desire to prove a fact.

airmark:


You mentioned the second gif, why not address the first gif? Abi that one no be miss? I posted that second one to show that morata missed with both legs as a master of misses. If you want me to bombard this place with more gifs i can but i wont.

Dont be deluded, i am a chelsea fan and wish he proves me wrong. I liked morata when he returned to madrid with high expectations from him like many of you here. His first three matches last season turned me to unbeliever and zidane made the best decision by benching him for madrid's good.

My concern is, if conte benches morata like zidane did, who is going to start and deliver? Batshuayi? I will rather play pedro to execute that fluid system you talked about with someone hungry to score goals for me. Goals win matches.

Ibime:
Oga airmark, I don send you email o