raumdeuter:


He is in better form currently than Rashford and WIlson playing for a bigger club

A starting striker from Chelsea will always be ahead of one for Bournemouth

A player with 0 app for England is not even any choice. Na mistake we make to even add am as 4th choice.

spillo1:

A player with 0 app for England is not even any choice. Na mistake we make to even add am as 4th choice.

he is first choice striker for Chelsea, Just the way Kane went from 0 cap to top 9 for England

raumdeuter:


No give examples


Marcel Dessaily enter Ghana today, And Anthony Baffoe enter Ghana who do you think people will hail more.
Do you think anywhere in the world they will hail Rabah Madjer more than Zidane? even in the streets of Algeria

Rashidi Yekini a Nigerian legend no be on Nairaland people dey donate money to feed his mother? That is the great Rashidi, Not to talk of smaller players like Mobi Oparaku, Femi Opabunmi, Thompson Oliha, Isaac Semitoje

Stop giving examples of legends who had successful international careers. If Zidane had only one appearance for France will he be hailed as Rabah?

spillo1:

Stop giving examples of legends who had successful international careers. If Zidane had only one appearance for France will he be hailed as Rabah?

Basically if you are good go to those top Nations, If you know you are poor go and find those low Nations like Nigeria to join

seankafor:
how come both wishes the country happy independence?
How come they keep famzing the country even at the past world cup if they got no roots?

Those niggas ain't even whites...they should brace up for more racial abuses like A. Ferdinand, and that black dude who ranted he wasn't given captain armband cos he was black..

Thoor my post was referring to the mofo who called Nigeria a shithole..like he has contributed anything to humanity

Who is this hypocrite?

I may not have made immense contributions to this country, but I do try to contribute my quota, though small, and still plan to do more.

Unlike people like you, I mean internet fraudsters like you giving this country a bad name, I don't engage in such dishonorable vices, which tarnish this country's image.

Ignoble yahoo-boy, who will soon be nabbed by the authorities.

You will soon delete this account as well like you did the previous one, when you suffered disgrace here by supporting your fellow cyber-criminals.

Ole jati jati!

raumdeuter:


Basically if you are good go to those top Nations, If you know you are poor go and find those low Nations like Nigeria to join

Yes exactly what bojan and munir thought . Both thought they were good enough for Spain so how did their international career go?

spillo1:

Yes exactly what bojan and munir thought . Both thought they were good enough for Spain so how did their international career go?

So what advantage does it give if you are playing for Togo Guinea Bissau etc other than increasing your chances of getting injured at meaningless games when you should be resting

Joel Matip is an example

raumdeuter:


he is first choice striker for Chelsea, Just the way Kane went from 0 cap to top 9 for England

Laporte is first choice for city but the coaches sometimes calls zouma and leaves Laporte. So untill he even has a cap we don't even know his place in the team.

This online fraudster, seankafor, is talking about patriotism.

Lol, wonders shall never end

raumdeuter:


So what advantage does it give if you are playing for Togo Guinea Bissau etc other than increasing your chances of getting injured at meaningless games when you should be resting

Joel Matip is an example

What advantage does starting for bournmouth/Watford gives than resting on the Man United/Chelsea bench?

gensteejay:
This online fraudster, seankafor, is talking about patriotism.

Lol, wonders shall never end

He might be a fraudster but he is patriotic

spillo1:

He might be a fraudster but he is patriotic

Lol. Very funny. His job is, soiling Nigeria's name on a daily basis, both locally and globally, along with his ilk, yet he's patriotic.

Patriotism just got a new meaning, one that qualifies it to be mentioned in the same breath with cyber-crime.

spillo1:

Laporte is first choice for city but the coaches sometimes calls zouma and leaves Laporte. So untill he even has a cap we don't even know his place in the team.

Are you not tired? Someone just told you it's better play one match for England than 100matches for Nigeria accross multiple international competitions including the world cup and you are still debating.

Kimbeast:

Are you not tired? Someone just told you it's better play one match for England than 100matches for Nigeria accross multiple international competitions including the world cup and you are still debating.

This debate is really a strawman argument. It's a no-brainer really.

At the risk of sounding overly pessimistic, Nigeria is really in a big mess. Sadly, most of us in this country can't see this: We're sitting on a time bomb and the future of this country is very bleak.

The brain drain is too appalling. Too many skilled, brilliant Nigerians are leaving the country at an alarming rate.

The human resource is any country's greatest asset, and Nigeria is losing hers alarmingly.

This country kills people's dreams; many citizens having realized this don't want to commit their future to the gruesome reality.

It's sad most Nigerians can't think deeply. They prefer to pray. Lol.

It's a lost cause.

spillo1:
What advantage does starting for bournmouth/Watford gives than resting on the Man United/Chelsea bench?

So you think Hughes starting for Watford is better than Dembele James or Vidal sitting on Barcelona bench?

spillo1:

Laporte is first choice for city but the coaches sometimes calls zouma and leaves Laporte. So untill he even has a cap we don't even know his place in the team.

Laporte has not been called Tammy has been called

spillo1:

Thank you. He is even behind Kane, Rashford and Wilson for that England spot.

Wilson is the back up striker and the player Abraham would be competing with. Southgate mostly uses Rashford as a wide forward and he'll probably keep that role because he's been good there for England.

gensteejay:

This debate is really a strawman argument. It's a no-brainer really.

At the risk of sounding overly pessimistic, Nigeria is really in a big mess. Sadly, most of us in this country can't see this: We're sitting on a time bomb and the future of this country is very bleak.

The brain drain is too appalling. Too many skilled, brilliant Nigerians are leaving the country at an alarming rate.

The human resource is any country's greatest asset, and Nigeria is losing hers alarmingly.

This country kills people's dreams; many citizens having realized this don't want to commit their future to the gruesome reality.

It's sad most Nigerians can't think deeply. They prefer to pray. Lol.

It's a lost cause.

Before I left Nigeria, I met John Fashanu at a couple of night clubs in VI where he looked like he was a regular at the club and he looked like he was still balling carrying one arm candy chic

Around that time Nigerias greatest striker Yekini was roaming around almost mad. Na nairaland dem dey contribute money to help Yekinis mother. Last time she was selling bread the total of everything on her tray is less than N5k.

Go see thread wey dem dey contribute to help Yekinis mother

These born patriotic Nigeria call obey citizens actually deserve all the sufferings they get in this shithole..

If we wan argue player's NT decision, we can pick up something like D.Costa's Spain over Brazil.
Not England/Nigeria or Spain/Nigeria.

Till now I still have many friends that hate Dele Alli just because he is playing for England.

raumdeuter:


Before I left Nigeria, I met John Fashanu at a couple of night clubs in VI where he looked like he was a regular at the club and he looked like he was still balling carrying one arm candy chic

Around that time Nigerias greatest striker Yekini was roaming around almost mad. Na nairaland dem dey contribute money to help Yekinis mother. Last time she was selling bread the total of everything on her tray is less than N5k.

Go see thread wey dem dey contribute to help Yekinis mother

I followed it then. Jarus was among the main sponsors/organizers of the kind gesture on Nairaland here and Facebook.

That was a couple of years ago.

Unfortunately, it seems the old woman's condition is now back to the status quo ante — back to struggling financially again.

spillo1:

Stop giving examples of legends who had successful international careers. If Zidane had only one appearance for France will he be hailed as Rabah?

Our great prospects are just slipping away. We would have had Tammy, Osimeh, Chukwueze, Iwobi, Tomori Fikayo, Ola Aina, joe Aribo all starting for Nigeria. Tomori is just paining me because that boy is a beast.

gensteejay:

[s]This debate is really a strawman argument. It's a no-brainer really.

At the risk of sounding overly pessimistic, Nigeria is really in a big mess. Sadly, most of us in this country can't see this: We're sitting on a time bomb and the future of this country is very bleak.

The brain drain is too appalling. Too many skilled, brilliant Nigerians are leaving the country at an alarming rate.

The human resource is any country's greatest asset, and Nigeria is losing hers alarmingly.

This country kills people's dreams; many citizens having realized this don't want to commit their future to the gruesome reality.

It's sad most Nigerians can't think deeply. They prefer to pray. Lol.

It's a lost cause [/s].

This has nothing to do with football what so ever.

Kimbeast:


Wilson is the back up striker and the player Abraham would be competing with. Southgate mostly uses Rashford as a wide forward and he'll probably keep that role because he's been good there for England.

if you really look at the long term prospects for the players, their positions means sooner or later they will be second fiddle as long as certain players are in the England team. Why be a backup to a striker like Kane which means you won't even start matches and only by God intervention will you even play than be first choice in Nigeria. Is there any rational reason at all.

raumdeuter:


Laporte has not been called Tammy has been called

My point still stands.

raumdeuter:


So you think Hughes starting for Watford is better than Dembele James or Vidal sitting on Barcelona bench?

Ake starting for bournmouth was better than Denis Suarez wasting his career at Barca.

gensteejay:

I followed it then. Jarus was among the main sponsors/organizers of the kind gesture on Nairaland here and Facebook.

That was a couple of years ago.

Unfortunately, it seems the old woman's condition is now back to the status quo ante — back to struggling financially again.

Go and see many Nigerian ex-internationals and how dem dey suffer, Some of them even got injured while on National duties sef and no insurance

Go and see how dem dey rush average NPL coaching job

You come say make a player decline a decision that can potentially add $50K weekly to earnings plus endorsement. While Sterling is endorsing big brands like Pepsi, Iwobi go dey here dey endorse Viju milk claiming Patriotism

spillo1:

if you really look at the long term prospects for the players, their positions means sooner or later they will be second fiddle as long as certain players are in the England team. Why be a backup to a striker like Kane which means you won't even start matches and only by God intervention will you even play than be first choice in Nigeria. Is there any rational reason at all.

Many players will rather sit on Madrid bench than start for Hull City

spillo1:

Ake starting for bournmouth was better than Denis Suarez wasting his career at Barca.

Who told you he is better? If Barcelona offer Ake jersey washer he will jump at it. Ross Barkley jumped at bench in Chelsea over starting at Everton never mind Barcelona vs Bournemouth

No be Barce rejects full Everton? If Barca tell dem to return they will all jump at it

raumdeuter:


Go and see many Nigerian ex-internationals and how dem dey suffer, Some of them even got injured while on National duties sef and no insurance

Go and see how dem dey rush average NPL coaching job

You come say make a player decline a decision that can potentially add $50K weekly to earnings plus endorsement. While Sterling is endorsing big brands like Pepsi, Iwobi go dey here dey endorse Viju milk claiming Patriotism

So yekini retired and became broke and so what? David James an England international was also broke same with gascogine . Hell even Ronaldinho is currently broke.

raumdeuter:


Many players will rather sit on Madrid bench than start for Hull City

Players with no ambition.

raumdeuter:


Who told you he is better? If Barcelona offer Ake jersey washer he will jump at it. Ross Barkley jumped at bench in Chelsea over starting at Everton never mind Barcelona vs Bournemouth

No be Barce rejects full Everton? If Barca tell dem to return they will all jump at it

Which player likes sitting on the bench? How does starting regularly for bournmouth and sitting on the bench for Barca even a debate on the development of a player career. Yes if Barca tell Paco to leave his starting spot at Dortmund and cone warm the bench at Barca he will rejoice and jump at it.

spillo1:

if you really look at the long term prospects for the players, their positions means sooner or later they will be second fiddle as long as certain players are in the England team. Why be a backup to a striker like Kane which means you won't even start matches and only by God intervention will you even play than be first choice in Nigeria. Is there any rational reason at all.

Apart from more media coverage due to English press, there's absolutely no reason for any player of Nigerian origin to prefer England over Nigeria except you are a world class talent already guaranteed a starting spot.