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Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by buzugee(m): 10:13pm On May 27, 2012
ayox2003:

And whats the meaning of this? lipsrsealed
its spiritual. cant be deciphered with a carnal mind like yours.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by redsun(m): 10:18pm On May 27, 2012
buzugee: its spiritual. cant be deciphered with a carnal mind like yours.

I hear you,buz.Tell them,the black world is at the moment blinfolded.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 10:18pm On May 27, 2012
cap28:

i dont understand? lazy? who worked in the mines digging out all the gold and diamonds for the europeans?

who cooked, cleaned and did the gardening for the europeans?

Are you aware that during the apartheid regime the blacks were banned from the cities unless they were coming there to work?

Are you aware that they had no access to any education beyond a primary school education courtesy of the bantu education act of 1953?



I am afraid that you don't know what to be lazy mean. If digging mines, cleaning and cooking by some informal individuals is what hardworking means to you then you are just another black dude who can not see beyond physical strength(maybe they can being doing that to enslave themselves further in their fathers land). All your power lies in your head, dude. I can see the reason why the white people succeeded in enslaving the blacks over there. Dude, you are a looser in this present generation if you continue to carry such mentality.

Then, you would now ask yourself how much digging ,cleaning and cooking jobs are available to more than 80% of the population and use that to understand what working hard means and why South Africans are lazy. Check the university enrollment statistic of blacks to white there.

You are very funny though. The same problem is what's plaguing our Northerners and some Southerners in Nigeria. Nobody wants to work hard but wants to steal.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 10:23pm On May 27, 2012
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 10:24pm On May 27, 2012
Are you not aware of the white presence in South Africa? Let me tell you how the world operates in terms of development. Wherever you find white people, there is a great deal of development. This isn't by accident but by design to keep the whites at the pedestal of socioeconomic status. In other words, the global leaders (whites) don't interfare or try to undermine the development in any place occupied by whites. Now to the contrary, the developing or undeveloped countries, though mostly black nations, ask yourself, why is it that whenever we have had a leader who meant well and wants to implement massive development and economic indepedence in their countries, they are either murdered or seen as a socialist and forced, disgraced out of power? Dr. Kwame Nhrumah, Gaddafi, Gbagbo, Patrice Lomumba, Abacha(you can disagree with me on Abacha; many of us shudder when we hear the name Abacha, yes I used to shudder too, but at the end of the day when you look at the economic stats and indexes under Sani Abacha, it was the best Nigeria has had. Don't believe me, go and do your research. e.t.c. Don't reply me saying that Abacha stole billions, I have heard that a lot and once thought in that line until I began to read a great deal about him and why he was killed. The spine of my comment is: The people who control this world don't want to see countries of blacks or colored people develop. Libya was on the path of development and economic Independence under Gaddafi, what was the result, they took him out and today Libya is in a mess; total anarchy and the people can barely eat. There is fighting every day between libyans and their imposed leaders/rebels. The mainstream media will never show you this!

Nigeria is one of the thriving economies in the world, these people I mentioned above that control the world, are now working assiduously to destabilize it and have us start from scratch again. Boko Haram is not a muslim thing, it is a weapon of destabilization with members of Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa extract, sponsored by these people I spoke of above, to realize the destabilization of Nigeria. Nigerians think!

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Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by redsun(m): 10:25pm On May 27, 2012
all4naija: I am afraid that you don't know what to be lazy mean. If digging mines, cleaning and cooking by some informal individuals is what hardworking means to you then you are just another black dude who can not see beyond physical strength(maybe they can being doing that to enslave themselves further in their fathers land). All your power lies in your head, dude. I can see the reason why the white people succeeded in enslaving the blacks over there. Dude, you are a looser in this present generation if you continue to carry such mentality.

Then, you would now ask yourself how much digging ,cleaning and cooking jobs are available to more than 80% of the population and use that to understand what working hard means and why South Africans are lazy. Check the university enrollment statistic of blacks to white there.

You are very funny though. The same problem is what's plaguing our Northerners and so Southerners in Nigeria. Nobody want to work hard but want to steal.


He is not exactly wrong.Physical work is just as important as mental,there is none without the other.They forcefully deprived them of mental stabilities and subjected them into the life of slavery in their own land.It was a slave and ruthless master relationship.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by ebere1712: 10:29pm On May 27, 2012
Because We are stuck with incompatible nationalities in Nigeria. Divide Nigeria and come back and compare. Ftpp bm csi and chinks.

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Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 10:35pm On May 27, 2012
Danka7777: Are you not aware of the white presence in South Africa? Let me tell you how the world operates in terms of development. Wherever you find white people, there is a great deal of development. This isn't by accident but by design to keep the whites at the pedestal of socioeconomic status. In other words, the global leaders (whites) don't interfare or try to undermine the development in any place occupied by whites. Now to the contrary, the developing or undeveloped countries, though mostly black nations, ask yourself, why is it that whenever we have had a leader who meant well and wants to implement massive development and economic indepedence in their countries, they are either murdered or seen as a socialist and forced, disgraced out of power? Dr. Kwame Nhrumah, Gaddafi, Gbagbo, Patrice Lomumba, Abacha(you can disagree with me on Abacha; many of us shudder when we hear the name Abacha, yes I used to shudder too, but at the end of the day when you look at the economic stats and indexes under Sani Abacha, it was the best Nigeria has had. Don't believe me, go and do your research. e.t.c. Don't reply me saying that Abacha stole billions, I have heard that a lot and once thought in that line until I began to read a great deal about him and why he was killed. The spine of my comment is: The people who control this world don't want to see countries of blacks or colored people develop. Libya was on the path of development and economic Independence under Gaddafi, what was the result, they took him out and today Libya is in a mess; total anarchy and the people can barely eat.

Nigeria is one of the thriving economies in the world, these people I mentioned above that control the world, are now working assiduously to destabilize it and have us start from scratch again. Boko Haram is not a muslim thing, it is a weapon of destabilization with members of Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa extract, sponsored by these people I spoke of above, to realize the destabilization of Nigeria. Nigerians think!

VERY WELL SAID! escpeciialy the Libya part
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Butoneday2(m): 10:37pm On May 27, 2012
But_one_day: Yes because whites enta de country 1547 thru one tribe called Xhosa. Dis is a country i lived for six(6)gud yrs. 2002-2008. Dat country got what it's takes, dey hav evrytin is just lik yankee, my guys used to tell me abt d country till i enta and see wit my eyes. Not only dat ''the third best cities in d world is ''CAPE TOWN SOUTH AFRICA''. Afta, New york & Paris.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 10:39pm On May 27, 2012
redsun:

He is not exactly wrong.Physical work is just as important as mental,there is none without the other.They forcefully deprived them of mental stability and subjected them into the life of slavery in their own land.It was a slave and ruthless master relationship.
We are still saying the same thing. Mental prowess can afford you the physical power at a very high magnitude. In the present generation where technology defines larger part of the physical application of strength we don't need men who dig hole to develop a nation. What hundred people do or dig in four days a machine can't do it for few hours, and the operator doesn't need much physical strength to carry it out as speculated here.

Now, that the nation power is in their hand what have they done? Please, answer that.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by cap28: 10:39pm On May 27, 2012
all4naija: I am afraid that you don't know what to be lazy mean. If digging mines, cleaning and cooking by some informal individuals is what hardworking means to you then you are just another black dude who can not see beyond physical strength(maybe they can being doing that to enslave themselves further in their fathers land). All your power lies in your head, dude. I can see the reason why the white people succeeded in enslaving the blacks over there. Dude, you are a looser in this present generation if you continue to carry such mentality.

Then, you would now ask yourself how much digging ,cleaning and cooking jobs are available to more than 80% of the population and use that to understand what working hard means and why South Africans are lazy. Check the university enrollment statistic of blacks to white there.

You are very funny though. The same problem is what's plaguing our Northerners and some Southerners in Nigeria. Nobody wants to work hard but wants to steal.


can you develop a country without the use of manual labour? If manual labour is of no importance to the development of an economy why did the europeans ship over 10 million africans from the coasts of west africa to the carribean, south america and north america to build their economies?

could the europeans have developed south africa without the use of forced african labour in the mines?

could the europeans of north america have developed north america without west african slave labour?

Do you know anything about the history of south africa? i just posted an article about the bantu education act of 1953, i also pasted a quote from one of the architects of white south africa Henrik Verwoerd who said that blacks should be denied the same standard of education as whites because they would not be allowed to use it for anything and you are still talking about university enrollment statistics for blacks in south africa compared to whites - the irony is that you actually see yourself as being better educated than the average black south african but your overall knowledge of important historical events that happened on your own continent is equal to zero.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by buzugee(m): 10:45pm On May 27, 2012
redsun:

I hear you,buz.Tell them,the black world is at the moment blinfolded.
well it is, mi compadre redsun grin . blindfolded and put in penance.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by justwise(m): 10:46pm On May 27, 2012
Danka7777: Are you not aware of the white presence in South Africa? Let me tell you how the world operates in terms of development. Wherever you find white people, there is a great deal of development. This isn't by accident but by design to keep the whites at the pedestal of socioeconomic status. In other words, the global leaders (whites) don't interfare or try to undermine the development in any place occupied by whites. Now to the contrary, the developing or undeveloped countries, though mostly black nations, ask yourself, why is it that whenever we have had a leader who meant well and wants to implement massive development and economic indepedence in their countries, they are either murdered or seen as a socialist and forced, disgraced out of power? Dr. Kwame Nhrumah, Gaddafi, Gbagbo, Patrice Lomumba, Abacha(you can disagree with me on Abacha; many of us shudder when we hear the name Abacha, yes I used to shudder too, but at the end of the day when you look at the economic stats and indexes under Sani Abacha, it was the best Nigeria has had. Don't believe me, go and do your research. e.t.c. Don't reply me saying that Abacha stole billions, I have heard that a lot and once thought in that line until I began to read a great deal about him and why he was killed. The spine of my comment is: The people who control this world don't want to see countries of blacks or colored people develop. Libya was on the path of development and economic Independence under Gaddafi, what was the result, they took him out and today Libya is in a mess; total anarchy and the people can barely eat. There is fighting every day between libyans and their imposed leaders/rebels. The mainstream media will never show you this!

Nigeria is one of the thriving economies in the world, these people I mentioned above that control the world, are now working assiduously to destabilize it and have us start from scratch again. Boko Haram is not a muslim thing, it is a weapon of destabilization with members of Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa extract, sponsored by these people I spoke of above, to realize the destabilization of Nigeria. Nigerians think!

Why are we like this? The 'white' are sponsoring BH to destabilise Nigeria? This is the type of rubbish that stops us from dealing with the real issue, when we keep blaming the wrong people for our problem we die chasing shadows.

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Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 10:50pm On May 27, 2012
@Cap28

Then what about Europe? You seem to be looking back at history and define the contemporary generation with it. Manual jobs are not what we need but more of using the brain to develop the country. The laziness of the brain can afford one the foolishness of being used. Please, spare me the European history and let's face the reality of being hardworking. I hate when few black people are being used to dig the earth, clean the offices and cook in restaurants being used as a yard stick to measure hardworking group of blacks in a country of 80% of them blacks and the remaining 20% whites being the ones who make the development we are seeing over there to happen.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by donigspain(m): 10:51pm On May 27, 2012
Simple, cuz there is no 'northern' south africa in South Africa.
Make a little research over the countries with 'northern' concepts and you will understand the secret of South Africa's progress.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 10:56pm On May 27, 2012
justwise:

Why are we like this? The 'white' are sponsoring BH to destabilise Nigeria? This is the type of rubbish that stops us from dealing with the real issue, when we keep blaming the wrong people for our problem we die chasing shadows.

That's always the problem with some myopic Nigerians. They always want to blame their weaknesses and failures on the progress of others. If they know that so well that they want to destabilize Nigeria because of the micro progress in poverty then why no curtail it before it happens? Some barbaric lazy Nigerians are often fond of that while ignoring the ineptitude to develop the country is the failure of our leaders to build an organized society.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by economia: 11:07pm On May 27, 2012
S/A ARE BETTER DEVELOPED B/C NO MODRATOR WILL HIDE A POSTER'S POST IN ANY S/A FORUM, 9JA FORUM MODERATOR WILL DO. D MORE U HIDE OUR POST D MORE WE RUN 4RM UR FORUM
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by justwise(m): 11:08pm On May 27, 2012
all4naija: That's always the problem with some myopic Nigerians. They always want to blame their weaknesses and failures on the progress of others. If they know that so well that they want to destabilize Nigeria because of the micro progress in poverty then why no curtail it before it happens? Some barbaric lazy Nigerians are often fond of that while ignoring the ineptitude to develop the country is the failure of our leaders to build an organized society.

I just can't understand the mentality of some of these people blaming the west for almost everything that has gone wrong in Nigeria and Africa, who are they kidding? Don't we know who steals from us?

Politicians steals with impunity we blame the west, boko haram killed thousands of Christains and Muslims we blame the west. We never done anything wrong, the west controls us. You know what? I like the west, they are powerful, they can make us do just anything and dare not question them.

I want them back, we are better of with them as our leaders then our current African leaders who are just toothless. dogs.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Ayoolu12: 11:12pm On May 27, 2012
I hate to admitt it, but lets be honest. The average African leader can't see beyond his nose. Totallly visionless and clueless. On the other hand, the average white man has some level of intelligence that is not so commonly found around these parts.
No, I'm not a self hater. Just an honest realist.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by gbadexy(m): 11:14pm On May 27, 2012
South africa is developed solely because the organised whites are the ones developing it.Nigeria too was like that just a few decades the whites left the management of our country to us.Nigeria can still be like south africa if we invite the whites to come and manage Nigeria as a coporate entity.no matter what anybody says,i couldnt care less who rules even if it is horse so far they are competent,accountable and have integrity.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by cap28: 11:16pm On May 27, 2012
all4naija: @Cap28

Then what about Europe? You seem to be looking back at history and define the contemporary generation with it. Manual jobs are not what we need but more of using the brain to develop the country. The laziness of the brain can afford one the foolishness of being used. Please, spare me the European history and let's face the reality of being hardworking. I hate when few black people are being used to dig the earth, clean the offices and cook in restaurants being used as a yard stick to measure hardworking group of blacks in a country of 80% of them blacks and the remaining 20% whites being the ones who make the development we are seeing over there to happen.

In order to make sense of our present predicament it is imperative that we look back at our history. YOu have failed to look at the root causes of black south africa's problems.

Black south africans lost control of their country not because of their laziness but because they were overpowered and subjugated by the europeans. As a result they were forced off their own lands herded on to reservations and townships and forced to do the hardest and most back breaking work for the europeans who now saw (and still see) south africa as their own country. Manual labour is an important aspect of economic development, without it you can not build an economy, before the industrial revolutions in europe and america black african slaves were one of the world's most valued commodities because of the wealth that they could generate from their raw labour so i think it is wrong of you to simply dismiss manual labour.

yes technological advancement has replaced the need for manual labour but people are still needed to operate machinery and undertake other repetitive tasks on production lines.

by the way nigeria also suffered defeat at the hands of the british and nigeria was run by the british for 60 years under a system quite similar to what obtained in aparthied south africa. If the weather conditions in nigeria had been as favourable as that of south africa the british would have done the exact same thing to nigerians as was the case with black south africans and you would have ended up with very little education and a job as a cook or gardener for a european family - how would you feel if other black africans would have turned around to call you lazy for failing to get an education?
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Revolva(m): 11:20pm On May 27, 2012
What kindda questionz people ask here at times ,,nigeria is a disgrace to humanity
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 11:21pm On May 27, 2012
cap28:

In order to make sense of our present predicament it is imperative that we look back at our history. YOu have failed to look at the root causes of black south africa's problems.

B[b]lack south africans lost control of their country not because of their laziness but because they were overpowered and subjugated by the europeans[/b]. As a result they were forced off their own lands herded on to reservations and townships and forced to do the hardest and most back breaking work for the europeans who now saw (and still see) south africa as their own country. Manual labour is an important aspect of economic development, without it you can not build an economy, before the industrial revolutions in europe and america black african slaves were one of the world's most valued commodities because of the wealth that they could generate from their raw labour so i think it is wrong of you to simply dismiss manual labour.

yes technological advancement has replaced the need for manual labour but people are still needed to operate machinery and undertake other repetitive tasks on production lines.

by the way nigeria also suffered defeat at the hands of the british and nigeria was run by the british for 60 years under a system quite similar to what obtained in aparthied south africa. If the weather conditions in nigeria had been as favourable as that of south africa the british would have done the exact same thing to nigerians as was the case with black south africans and you would have ended up with very little education and a job as a cook or gardener for a european family - how would you feel if other black africans would have turned around to call you lazy for failing to get an education?


Even if they are given back their country without the advent of the whites they would be another slum-filled(poverty ridden) African nation. Let's face reality and point to where the truth lies. There is failure on the side of the blacks to organized themselves and develop. The brain is where all power rested while the physical strength is just a subordination.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by LIncomers: 11:23pm On May 27, 2012
Hypothetically....what most of ya'all is saying is that a Black nation cant rise without the presence of a white man.. angry...How Unfortunate
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 11:25pm On May 27, 2012
justwise:

Why are we like this? The 'white' are sponsoring BH to destabilise Nigeria? This is the type of rubbish that stops us from dealing with the real issue, when we keep blaming the wrong people for our problem we die chasing shadows.


It would be difficult for people of your type to grasp what I am talking about. I don't have to make myself clearer. Remember, I once used to think like you, such as: It is impossible for whites to be doing this. Have you asked yourself, why the blacks in South Africa are faring awful compared to their fellow whites counterparts? Have you asked yourself why the blacks in South Africa are more infected with Aids than their white counterparts? Were their forbearers not having sex without condom and still had no Aids? Where did the aids come from? What was the purpose of inventing it? Why is it that it is only killing off the blacks? Go to South Africa and see for yourself young women who have been tested to still be virgins but have Aids. Never had blood transfusion. If it were one incident, I would have discarded these as bogus. W e are talking about thousands of women. Had it been a guy, I would have said, maybe he used an unsterilized clipper or something. These are women! How is that possible? I would advise you to thinking critically and draw judgement as a rational, sane person. People like you are agents provocateur that whites have indoctrinated to think that everything wrong of black people was ordain by God. Get out of my sight!
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 11:30pm On May 27, 2012
Danka7777:

It would be difficult for people of your type to grasp what I am talking about. I don't have to make myself clearer. Remember, I once used to think like you, such as: It is impossible for whites to be doing this. Have you asked yourself, why the blacks in South Africa are faring awful compared to their fellow whites counterparts? Have you asked yourself why the blacks in South Africa are more infected with Aids than their white counterparts? Were their forbearers not having sex without condom and still had no Aids? Where did the aids come from? What was the purpose of inventing it? Why is it that it is only killing off the blacks? I would advise you to thinking critically and draw judgement as a rational, sane person. People like you are agents provocateur that whites have indoctrinated to think that everything wrong of black people was ordain by God. Get out of my sight!
Your comment is laughable! There is nothing on earth that would convince of the truth than speculation carried by the fool.s propagating rumors.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by AjanleKoko: 11:30pm On May 27, 2012
@OP,
Answer is simple. The Whiteys developed SA.
The blacks are trying to catch up . . . but it's still catch-up at the end of the day. Whiteys are well ahead, and will continue to run the country from the sidelines.
Any attempt by South African blacks to force them out will only create another Zim.

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Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 11:32pm On May 27, 2012
Asians are progressing and we never wanted to take a page from them.

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Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by NEROSKY(m): 11:33pm On May 27, 2012
redsun: Sadly because oyinbo was in control.Oyinbo used the blacks to develop south africa for themselves.Black south africans are jsut as developed as other africans.
come take ur time oh
whats post has been hiden?
Ebi lik say u no sabi talk?
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by justwise(m): 11:33pm On May 27, 2012
Danka7777:

It would be difficult for people of your type to grasp what I am talking about. I don't have to make myself clearer. Remember, I once used to think like you, such as: It is impossible for whites to be doing this. Have you asked yourself, why the blacks in South Africa are faring awful compared to their fellow whites counterparts? Have you asked yourself why the blacks in South Africa are more infected with Aids than their white counterparts? Were their forbearers not having sex without condom and still had no Aids? Where did the aids come from? What was the purpose of inventing it? Why is it that it is only killing off the blacks? I would advise you to thinking critically and draw judgement as a rational, sane person. People like you are agents provocateur that whites have indoctrinated to think that everything wrong of black people was ordain by God. Get out of my sight!


The first thing you should do for the sake of humanity is to check yourself into mental health clinic ASAP, you are not well, and one more thing, condom reduces the chances of contacting HIV, ok? And pass the message to President Zuma as well.
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 11:39pm On May 27, 2012
justwise: [b][/b]

The first thing you should do for the sake of humanity is to check yourself into mental health clinic ASAP, you are not well, and one more thing, condom reduces the chances of contacting HIV, ok? And pass the message to President Zuma as well.

I feel sorry for you, accept my tremendous sympathy. So you don't think that condoms cannot be tampered with, even though it isn't foolproof? You need re-education!
Re: Why Is South Africa More Developed And Stable Than Nigeria?? by Nobody: 11:43pm On May 27, 2012
Danka7777:

I feel sorry for you, accept my tremendous sympathy. So you don't think that condoms cannot be tampered with, even though it isn't foolproof? You need re-education!
No whites in such numbers in Nigeria yet HIV/AIDS is striving. Please, the failure on our side to organize ourselves is becoming a disease hard to live with.

I don't buy into things which are speculative in nature. Either you don't have the right information or you were told by some rumor mongers.

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