It is a clear commandment of God that graven images should not be made but all over i see images,crucifix and stuff being sold,worn and adored in Churches all over the world by Pentecostals,Orthodox and what have you? I maybe wrong but do they have a different scriptural interpretation for that.....

All views are welcomed.....

Old Testament.

Seun: Old Testament.

Wikipedia

A testament is a document that the author has sworn to be true.

Except the former sworn truth is no longer valid and hence invalidated it hold's forth....

mkmyers45: It is a clear commandment of God that graven images should not be made but all over i see images,crucifix and stuff being sold,worn and adored in Churches all over the world by Pentecostals,Orthodox and what have you? I maybe wrong but do they have a different scriptural interpretation for that.....

All views are welcomed.....

acts 17 vs 24

buzugee: acts 17 vs 24

Buzugee what's ur point

Are u in support of images. Been used in churches today

mkmyers45: Wikipedia

A testament is a document that the author has sworn to be true.

Except the former sworn truth is no longer valid and hence invalidated it hold's forth....

Christians believe the New Testament supercedes the Old. There are many things there that they don't follow.

If we are to agree the verse is from the old testament and shouldn't be taken serious, then emphasis should not be laid on tithes payment cos it's found in the old testament

That would cause a financial crash, meltdown, collapse, armaggedon and apocalypse of the ecclesiastical economy.

Optimisticgondy: If we are to agree the verse is from the old testament and shouldn't be taken serious, then emphasis should not be laid on tithes payment cos it's found in the old testament

ijawkid:

Buzugee what's ur point

Are u in support of images. Been used in churches today

Yezzur. Images like that belong in church, after all JOB 14 VS 4 Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? There is not one.

buzugee: Yezzur. Images like that belong in church, after all JOB 14 VS 4 Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? There is not one.

i dont get your point at all..

Optimisticgondy: If we are to agree the verse is from the old testament and shouldn't be taken serious, then emphasis should not be laid on tithes payment cos it's found in the old testament

Hehe..All Church go close be dat..

Seun:
Christians believe the New Testament supercedes the Old. There are many things there that they don't follow.

I wonder why they are following the tithe rule..

Optimisticgondy: If we are to agree the verse is from the old testament and shouldn't be taken serious, then emphasis should not be laid on tithes payment cos it's found in the old testament

Correct. tithe payment as practiced in modern pentecostal churches has no biblical basis at all. It's simply a scam.

mkmyers45: I wonder why they are following the tithe rule..

Some pastors desperate for cash started preaching the tithing rule to their gullible members. These churches got more money than other churches, so they grew faster and became dominant. Other churches trying to compete with them are forced to preach the same rule. Tithing is now a self-sustaining tradition that everyone believes and everyone accepts.

mkmyers45: i dont get your point at all..

when you have eba and no stew, bread with no jam, boli with no groundnut. these are incomplete. so is a church without its pagan images. a pagan institution needs pagan images.

buzugee: when you have eba and no stew, bread with no jam, boli with no groundnut. these are incomplete. so is a church without its pagan images. a pagan institution needs pagan images.

Oi i get it..Anti-pagan eh?

Seun:
Correct. tithe payment as practiced in modern pentecostal churches has no biblical basis at all. It's simply a scam.


Some pastors desperate for cash started preaching the tithing rule to their gullible members. These churches got more money than other churches, so they grew faster and became dominant. Other churches trying to compete with them are forced to preach the same rule. Tithing is now a self-sustaining tradition that everyone believes and everyone accepts.

EPIC!

Optimisticgondy: If we are to agree the verse is from the old testament and shouldn't be taken serious, then emphasis should not be laid on tithes payment cos it's found in the old testament

you would sooner get a camel through the eye of a needle.

buzugee: when you have eba and no stew, bread with no jam, boli with no groundnut. these are incomplete. so is a church without its pagan images. a pagan institution needs pagan images.

HÉhehe...

Buzugee u no well @ all...

Lol.....

Jenwitemi: That would cause a financial crash, meltdown, collapse, armaggedon and apocalypse of the ecclesiastical economy.

this is not very true. The catholic church isnt big on tithe yet people think she is financially stable.

mkmyers45: Oi i get it..Anti-pagan eh?

nope not anti-pagan. i would hope that in 2012 people would have realized that churches are secular social places and nothing to do with God. isnt that obvious yet ?

ijawkid:

HÉhehe...

Buzugee u no well @ all...

Lol.....

it is what it is my Bros

buzugee: when you have eba and no stew, bread with no jam, boli with no groundnut. these are incomplete. so is a church without its pagan images. a pagan institution needs pagan images.

and the jewish religion has jewish image. The christain religion has christain image, that is y there are christain images that date back to the 1st century.

Ubenedictus: this is not very true. The catholic church isnt big on tithe yet people think she is financially stable.

the catholic church collects tithes from countries not peons (humans )

Ubenedictus: and the jewish religion has jewish image. The christain religion has christain image, that is y there are christain images that date back to the 1st century.

exactly, and the point here is that religion is man made. i would hope every sane person would have realized that now in 2012

That only means the church(catholic) has other more effective means of making it's money. That is the reason for it's financial stability.

Ubenedictus: this is not very true. The catholic church isnt big on tithe yet people think she is financially stable.

mkmyers45: It is a clear commandment of God that graven images should not be made but all over i see images,crucifix and stuff being sold,worn and adored in Churches all over the world by Pentecostals,Orthodox and what have you? I maybe wrong but do they have a different scriptural interpretation for that.....

All views are welcomed.....

You mis understand that scripture, God commanded that graven images shouuld not be made as an object of worship. Not that they should not be made at all.

Ubenedictus: this is not very true. The catholic church isnt big on tithe yet people think she is financially stable.

The catholic church actually first brought the doctrine of tithes into christianity and they practised it for centuries. However in modern times with widespread use of the bible and enlightenment it became obvious it was a false doctrine so they decided to retract and preach it as voluntary. However the catholic church being the oldest and richest institution in the world has amassed wealth over the centuries which they continue to re-invest. The catholic church is the largest shareholder in a good number of large corporations in America and around the world they made good money from tithes and other scams like 'sale of indulgence' in the past but today they have moved ahead. They are so huge now that tithe money would seem like peanuts to them.

Pastor Kun:

You mis understand that scripture, God commanded that graven images shouuld not be made as an object of worship. Not that they should not be made at all.

Tell me an image or images made by the church that is not worshiped...

mkmyers45: Tell me an image or images made by the church that is not worshiped...

Why don't you tell me an image that is worshipped in churches as I am not aware of any.

@OP
That's in the old testament. We're leaving by grace now so all those laws in the old testament do not apply to us. Whether you use graven images or you don't it does not change anything.

Pastor Kun:

Why don't you tell me an image that is worshipped in churches as I am not aware of any.

Crucifix,Frames with M.O.G Picture eg TB Joshua, sculpture etc

afam4eva: @OP
That's in the old testament. We're leaving by grace now so all those laws in the old testament do not apply to us. Whether you use graven images or you don't it does not change anything.

Ok, So every law in the old testament is outdated abi? so using graven images is ok ryt? i guess you dont pay tithe do you?

mkmyers45: Ok, So every law in the old testament is outdated abi? so using graven images is ok ryt? i guess you dont pay tithe do you?

Yes, every law in the old testament is outdated as we are no longer bound by rules but by grace.