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God cannot be well
discussed in the soul or flesh plane BUT IN THE SPIRIT PLANE. As long as you remain in the realms of understanding God like you understand physics, you'll only be wasting your time. the faith realm is key.

Can you discuss God with anyone on earth?

Thehomer, image just invoked an exemption clause of faith. Its useless trying to reason further in this . . . . .

thehomer:

Can you discuss God with anyone on earth?

sure, millions use their faith to know God and enjoy an experience of Him.

Kay 17: Thehomer, image just invoked an exemption clause of faith. Its useless trying to reason further in this . . . . .

Yeah I know. At this point, I'm not trying to reason with him, just exposing the problems with his line of thought.

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sure, millions use their faith to know God and enjoy an experience of Him.

That wasn't what I asked. This is what I asked you.

thehomer:

Can you discuss God with anyone on earth?

thehomer:

That wasn't what I asked. This is what I asked you.

yes

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yes

How do you carry out this discussion? Do you use words, gestures or what?

words and gestures

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Yet you cannot use these words and gestures to discuss this God of yours with me?

thehomer:

Yet you cannot use these words and gestures to discuss this God of yours with me?

i can if you have faith. Faith is the medium into the spiritual.
don't know to explain it fully. It's like well, you have a brain where your sense is. But you have the organ of eyes to see, the organ of skin to feel/touch. All these organs are the senses of the body as it were. Without these organs, you brain cannot fully understand smell/odour, colour etc. Without faith, your brain or mind or reasoning would just continue to waste my time.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Without faith, it is impossible for you to really understand my answers.

at least she was only molested she did not die

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i can if you have faith. Faith is the medium into the spiritual.
don't know to explain it fully. It's like well, you have a brain where your sense is. But you have the organ of eyes to see, the organ of skin to feel/touch. All these organs are the senses of the body as it were. Without these organs, you brain cannot fully understand smell/odour, colour etc. Without faith, your brain or mind or reasoning would just continue to waste my time.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Without faith, it is impossible for you to really understand my answers.

You seem quite confused on what faith is supposed to be.
Is faith a strongly held belief, a realm or an actual organ of the body?
What you seem to be saying is that if I don't already agree with you, then you cannot have a discussion. That way lies the cognitive bias known as confirmation bias. Are you willing to avoid cognitive biases in your discussion?

fumisko: at least she was only molested she did not die so thank God too

1. yes so its also another reason to thank God there is always a reason to thank God what if the fire that caught the plane when it fell down had continuously kept spreading and on and and much more people walking on streets miles away died?
2. and its not God's fault cause the plane had been having landing issues so many times through out that week before that fateful day. God gave them clues but was man fully willing to work on it?no. they still kept on using a bad plane.so what did you want him to do clap for them for being stupid and nonchalant at his warnings?nope the were left to fate and the blood of the dead will be on the manager's head who knew what was wrong and let it fly except he asks for forgiveness.
3. how many of those God's children heard in their prayer time do not travel and still went on. how many of them heard the still small voice saying don't go and still went? how many of them did events on ground stop them from traveling but the still looked for a way to travel cause the dint pick up the signal God was sending? its true some heard no voice or spiritual intuition also. yes i agree, but God's ways also are not our ways and he remains unquestionable. those ones would be enjoying paradise and wont come back self if you beg them. that's food for thought.

thehomer:

You seem quite confused on what faith is supposed to be.
Is faith a strongly held belief, a realm or an actual organ of the body?
What you seem to be saying is that if I don't already agree with you, then you cannot have a discussion. That way lies the cognitive bias known as confirmation bias. Are you willing to avoid cognitive biases in your discussion?

Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Do not be confused on that. The faith realm is the spirit realm, not even sure i mentioned anything about a faaith realm. The main thing though is that you need faith to commune with God in the spirit realm. Like we have the waves for electricity, magnetism, gsm networks all around us, but we need medium through which to contact them and make them useful. These are in the physical, yet we need other medium to really get good use of them. This spirit world is entirely different. In the spirit world or realm, you need faith, at least to ever have abny hope of communing with or understanding God as it were. That faith in you is the medium that i likened to an organ when i said don't know to explain it fully. It's like. It's nothing about cognitive or confirmation. The point is, to have any fruitful discussion on God, you need faith, it's that plain and simple. It's like an animal telling a man, to have any fruitful discussion with me, you have to be an animal or vice versa. If i do not understand chinese, i cannot underrstand you if you speak chinese. We simply cannot have fruitful discussions in chinese. God is a Spirit, and those that want to talk about Him and understand Him MUST do so on the planes of the Spiritual realm. You only connection to that realm is you know what.

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Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Do not be confused on that. The faith realm is the spirit realm, not even sure i mentioned anything about a faaith realm. The main thing though is that you need faith to commune with God in the spirit realm. Like we have the waves for electricity, magnetism, gsm networks all around us, but we need medium through which to contact them and make them useful. These are in the physical, yet we need other medium to really get good use of them. This spirit world is entirely different. In the spirit world or realm, you need faith, at least to ever have abny hope of communing with or understanding God as it were. That faith in you is the medium that i likened to an organ when i said don't know to explain it fully. It's like. It's nothing about cognitive or confirmation. The point is, to have any fruitful discussion on God, you need faith, it's that plain and simple. It's like an animal telling a man, to have any fruitful discussion with me, you have to be an animal or vice versa. If i do not understand chinese, i cannot underrstand you if you speak chinese. We simply cannot have fruitful discussions in chinese. God is a Spirit, and those that want to talk about Him and understand Him MUST do so on the planes of the Spiritual realm. You only connection to that realm is you know what.

You did mention a faith realm see below. (Emphasis added).

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God cannot be well
discussed in the soul or flesh plane BUT IN THE SPIRIT PLANE. As long as you remain in the realms of understanding God like you understand physics, you'll only be wasting your time. the faith realm is key.

Note that you've still not said what you mean by faith here. You're undecided on whether it is a realm, a transmission medium or an organ for reception. These concepts are quite different you know so stop skipping between them.
Your comparison using language is pointless since you already said you would perform the communication using words and gestures.
You are demonstrating a cognitive bias when you say that the only way to understand you is to already accept your belief as being true.
To cut to the chase, do you understand God?

thehomer:

You did mention a faith realm see below. (Emphasis added).



Note that you've still not said what you mean by faith here. You're undecided on whether it is a realm, a transmission medium or an organ for reception. These concepts are quite different you know so stop skipping between them.
Your comparison using language is pointless since you already said you would perform the communication using words and gestures.
You are demonstrating a cognitive bias when you say that the only way to understand you is to already accept your belief as being true.
To cut to the chase, do you understand God?

and i said the faith realm is the spirit realm, and yes i understand God.

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and i said the faith realm is the spirit realm, and yes i understand God.

Finally someone who understands God. Now, how often do you talk to God and hear his responses?

quite often, why?

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To be sure that you're not just deceiving yourself.
What does God sound like? If you asked him how old I was, will he tell you?

thehomer:

To be sure that you're not just deceiving yourself.
What does God sound like? If you asked him how old I was, will he tell you?

This is really foolish. Grow up man.

Deep Sight:

This is really foolish. Grow up man.

This is a really daft comment. Why don't you go back to trying to defend your poor assertions?

thehomer:

To be sure that you're not just deceiving yourself.
What does God sound like? If you asked him how old I was, will he tell you?

not interested in such info. there are many a folk though who can tell you your phone number, address, age, name and future. at the end of the day, such display isn't very important to your knowing or understanding God. you sound quite hungry to see some magic.

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not interested in such info. there are many a folk though who can tell you your phone number, address, age, name and future. at the end of the day, such display isn't very important to your knowing or understanding God. you sound quite hungry to see some magic.

Sure there are. But can your God give you such information?
Your ability to present this information confirms several things at once e.g that there is some God who has all this information that you can call upon and he will respond to you. If you really communicated with your God the way you claim, it would be a "gift of the spirit".

No one has run around in circles like this since Gebrselassie

thehomer:

Sure there are. But can your God give you such information?
Your ability to present this information confirms several things at once e.g that there is some God who has all this information that you can call upon and he will respond to you. If you really communicated with your God the way you claim, it would be a "gift of the spirit".

na wa o. when even deepS and mk start to complain, i should say i don't try for you o. so you know of people who can give you such irrelevant info.go and meet them na so that you can understand and believe God. gift of the sprit indeed.

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na wa o. when even deepS and mk start to complain, i should say i don't try for you o. so you know of people who can give you such irrelevant info.go and meet them na so that you can understand and believe God. gift of the sprit indeed.

DeepSight is simply misguided you should also note that he too doesn't believe in your God.
If I meet them, then I may not come to believe in your God but theirs. It seems you're afraid of actually showing how it is that your claimed God talks to you.
If you are, then don't bother responding without the answers to the questions I asked.

go and meet them and believe in their God, that way you'll understand Him and know why he wanted or didn't want a plane to crash. i see you're left with no normal questions again, quite straight forward of you.

Image123: go and meet them and believe in their God, that way you'll understand Him and know why he wanted or didn't want a plane to crash. i see you're left with no normal questions again, quite straight forward of you.

You do realize that their God may be different from your God and you're supposed to be willing to present defense of your God instead, you're willing to send me to other Gods. This sort of action would have gotten you killed according to the Old Testament. Oh well, it is what I've come to expect from you Christians who have nothing to offer.

Since you're unable to defend your God, I'll simply have to leave you till you're better prepared and informed.
You may now conclude.

Atheist are d curse of GOD. The sun shall smite dem by day and d moon by nite. What ever our LORD JESUS CHRIST has done is 4 ever acceptable 2 us. Let GOD be thrutful and all atheist be liars

Vain prayers!