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Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Sagamite(m): 1:00pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
~Lady~: No you gave tory, not answers. Especially to the second part. No abuse my old age. My mind is still sharp and I am not impotent. Please answer the question and state your view as succinctly as possible. I am too old for bedtime stories. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by coogar: 1:24pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
~Lady~: most abortions actually take place before 3 months...that's when a simple injection, some pills or d & c are effective. after the 3rd month, the woman would go through induction abortion where must deliver the baby prematurely.
whoever said life doesn't begin @ conception, of course it does. micro-organisms also have lives so you are hardly making any point here. what we are defining is personhood....a baby before birth is not a person. even your english language qualifies the baby then as it. not a he nor a she. i am arguing the fact that some people actually think abortion = murder, no it isn't abortion is what it's called...and it's abortion! perfectly legal in some countries. there's no place on this planet where murder is legal so people really need to get some perspective before spitting hokum! |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by kandiikane(m): 1:45pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
Sagamite: I am not arguing what you just spewed. Maybe you should go over what I have written. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Nobody: 1:54pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
kandiikane: Are you really arguing for single parenthood. I think Sagamite and the rest have done justice to that. Won't even bother. w perfectly well, what type of love we get from this thread but that love isn't "everlasting" as you say it is. When you see two people that have been together for 10,000 years it's not the same so-called love based on sexual attraction, it's more of comfort, the struggles you have been through to get where you are today, everything you have shared-being use to that person for so long you just cannot go. Believe me, if you reach 60 and you are still with your husband you will understand. Whoever told you that love that was first based on s£xual attraction lasts forever is a liar and has been watching too many fairy tales. What the heck Is that what I said? Seriously is English your first language? Not that dense to make such comments. Don't put words in my mouth, or misquote me, please. You say age comes with maturity, yes, that is true but that is because of experience. How can you be mature at 25 when it comes to relationships when you are just entering one? Ehn? How does that work even? Whether you are 17 or 25 you feel the same love. There are no levels to love, nor be competition. At 25, you will know then how to pick your man or woman well because through experience you have learnt what is best from your past relationships. You need to make mistakes or play the field as a teenager to know what kind of man you should be dating as an adult? I have no further thing to say. On second thought it makes sense though. . .I cite single parenthood. You can see why you needed to do that. I hope men are learning from this. Lol, but you cannot preach love to a 19year who started dating at 17 when you are just starting out at 25. Because I said girls can wait on the dating scene you think I started dating at 25? Rotflmao. You keep on proving me right. You dated as a teenager, and grew up in a single parent household, your mother present. With your dad present, you would have waited a bit . Most teenager romance are cockroach romance, so let me hear word. The article I referred you to said that girls without presence of fathers in their lives reach puberty faster. The estrogen itch to 'explore' comes in faster. I hope many guys are learning from my posts. What do you say to couples who divorce after 10years? Cockroach love because it did not last? Lol, no because love alone will not suffice. All that butterflies you feel at first does not last oo. Sometimes, just seeing your partner's face annoys you. Yup cockroach love, love is self sacrificing and everlasting, go look up the definition/characteristics of love before you start making cheeky comments. Besides people have different reasons for getting married. Love is taking it to the finish line and not stopping halfway. Everything else is not love. You get 17 years old that are more mature than you because they started experiencing life from a very tender age due to no fault of their own. Yet to see that teenager. Not even you come close. Till then hold your peace. Lmao. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by kandiikane(m): 1:54pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
Sagamite: I say me, because I give myself as an example because don't want an argument where I am told I am talking rubbish without any background. I will not argue over something I do not know about or have not experienced. It is better to use yourself as an explanation. What does being a ghetto child or djimon Honsou in hollywood got to do with what I have written? |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Nobody: 2:12pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
Ileke-IdI: You have. Go through all your aliases. No huge flaw, research has shown this. Let me get this down before I post further; you're saying that every 20+women who sleep with their boyfriend/lover, there is ALWAYS a love story behind it Huh? Yes, sweety, young romance. That's just my classification of whatever romantic and sexual gesture older adolescence believe they have for their boy/girl friend. Most are crushes and infatuation aka cockroach love. You not dating at 17 = deeper meaning to love? ROTFLMAO!! For me yup. You have to be grown upstairs to handle relationships maturely. At even 19 you were in every tom d.ick and harry relationship business on NL and still are at 20+. Lollll. Still on the learning path, are we? Rotflmao You're saying that at 17 years old wouldn't know what love is (or so I assume), yet you're holding a "deeper" meaning to love? I hope you see the irony Love holds a deeper meaning, but the brain to understand it is still developing as a teenager, as a girl give yourself time, no need to rush. Enjoy your childhood. Men will surely come, loll. If that is too much to understand, I can no more help you. Oooohh so now you're agreeing to the father figure presence? lol. I believe I cited other factors of this issue, it was you that had problems or preferably took offence to the father angle. So don't act as if I said lack of it was the only issue. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Lady2(f): 2:18pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
coogar: Like I said most abortions do not take place before 3 months. Abortions happen even up to 7 months, and if the child is born alive, which there are several people that have survived an abortion and speak against it, the child is sometimes left to die. The injection you speak of is a saline solution. Saline solutions can still kill a child after 3 months and it is most definitely used to kill the child after three months. After the saline solution has taken effect, the baby's body is torn apart and pulled out of the mother's womb. A woman only goes through induction abortion when she is administered the Ru-486 drug, at which point she waits about 48 - 72 hours and expels her child. Micro-organisms are not human, the life in the womb is human, yes or no Do humans have right Do LIVING humans have rights? The difference between a baby before and after birth is what Is the body different?? Is the heart different?? Are the legs different?? Is the head different? The brain is different how What would you say to people who survived abortions The moment they were being aborted they weren't persons, but as they survived they became persons Please what's the criteria for a person?? And what makes the child in the womb not fit that criteria?? Actually a person when the sex is not known can be called an 'it' inside or outside of the womb. Or are you insinuating that a baby inside the womb has no gender Goodness I wonder what all the excitement is about buying pink and blue clothes for baby. You do know that women are born with all the eggs they could have, that is the part of the woman that produces another life is already existing in the woman before she herself is born, so she is already marked as a potential mother, eggs are already present even though they will not meet maturity until many years later. So a baby girl in the womb has all the equipment to be a mother and yet she isn't a person I absolutely love this particular quote of yours here "there's no place on this planet where murder is legal so people really need to get some perspective before spitting hokum!" I love it because everything that Hitler did was legal. I also love it because only about a little over a century ago, slavery was legal, and the killing of black people was perfectly ok. But the killing of over 10 million people can't be murder because it was clearly legal. The enslavement and killing of blacks certainly can't be murder because well it was legal. So just because it's legal makes it definitely not murder. Oh what's even better is the fact that if a pregnant woman is killed the murder is not just charged for murder of the woman, but is also charged for the murder of the child in her womb. I mean clearly when another person kills the child in the woman's womb it's murder but when the woman kills it, it's not murder. Because well when the other person kills it, it's a child and it's human and it's a person, but when the mother does it, it's not a child, it's not human, it's not a person You know the content of the baby changes depending on who's doing the killing. Honey abortion is murder, you can put lipstick on a pig it will never be a woman, it will still be a pig. You can call it fairy dust if you want to at the end of the day it is the taking of a human life. And the taking of a human life is murder. 1 Like |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by kandiikane(m): 2:20pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
stillwater: Stillwater is this not your comment? Did I misquote you? Maybe I should have written, "whoever told you that love is everlasting has been watching too many fairy tales." What has English being my first language got to do with anything? No, but it is the English people's first language. I am not arguing for single parent(see my first post) but the stereotype that is in place. I gave 25 as an example because in general term it is the age you are expected to be married by. Younger even where we are from. I am not saying you NEED to date as a teenager but if you do then you can say, "I learnt fom experience" and can then choose wisely. You cannot know the tricks of men or what is suitable for you if you are just starting out in the game. Common sense, na. Ok, then. I rather have had this 'cockroach love' that has lasted for years than having to go through men like toilet roll as many "matured" 20-30 somethings do these days. Again, the love we are talking about is not everlasting. I think you need to sit with people that have been married for long and see the reason why they are still together. This love we are talking about is based on s£xual attraction and it does NOT last. Well, I guess you need to come out of your hole and see teens who have had to growup fast and mature for many reasons. No offence |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Nobody: 2:25pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
kandiikane: Well that is you. But go check the meaning and characteristics of true love. If you say you love someone it better be everlasting, not when the going gets tough you run away. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Nobody: 2:27pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
Sagamite: Lollll, with that your Sagamu mouth, you go fit spell love? Wonders shall never cease. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by coogar: 2:45pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
~Lady~: i never said abortions don't happen until the 8th month. i said most of them happen in the first trimester. 88-92% of all abortions happen before the first trimester. 88-92% would qualify as most
before birth, the baby uses his mother's immunity, his mother's lungs, etc to survive. after birth, the baby is entirely on it's own. that's the difference.
a person must possess brain and can do everything distinctively human: feel, love, think, know, choose, desire, commit, relate, aspire, know itself, know God, know its past, know its future, know its environment, or communicate with anyone.
you're hardly saying anything here...
not a person till it's born!
we are not talking about the neanderthal era here....we are talking about 2012! there's no place on this planet where murder is legal. the operative word: is i am talking of the present not when aztecs and mayans were decapitating slaves. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Sagamite(m): 3:11pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
kandiikane: You are a student in university, you should know better. You can not be talking about an issue and use one sample case to make a judgement on a general issue. Because Obama is president is not proof that black people are the leaders of Aristocracy in America? Because Botswana is a lovely and sane country is not proof Africa is not backwards? Never use you as an explanation to represent a large sample population. You look at it holistically and deduce probabilities calculations from a sufficiently large pool to arrive at an opinion. Using you to judge will mean the "confidence interval" (in statistics) will be less than 0.01%. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Sagamite(m): 3:12pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
~Lady~! Haba, wey answer to my question? |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by kandiikane(m): 3:55pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
stillwater:True love, ni? Lmaooo, child's play. Noone said run when the going gets tough Sagamite, I understand where you are coming from but my point is, if there is one like me who said there aren't 10,000 more? Research will always shine negativity to those born in single families. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Sagamite(m): 4:29pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
kandiikane: If there is one like you, I am SURE there are 10,000 more. But there are 100,000 more that are not like you. That have had it bad. Such odds/ratios are much better in double parent homes and research shows it. That is our point and our basis of argument. The holistic view, not the niche or exceptions. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Nobody: 6:07pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
Sagamite: ^^^Those were assertions, not questions.. When are you starting your adult education classes, bro bro? |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Sagamite(m): 6:17pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
shymmex: person, is it the time for your weekly bashing? Welcome, I am itching for intellectually suya badly. Liar, where is the Birmingham certificate you claimed you had and you were going to unleash on us before you ran when I challlenged you to present it? Fooool! |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Nobody: 8:28pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
kandiikane: Yup, true love is everlasting. Ehen I wanted to ask, if you say you've been dating your guy since you were a teenager, can I ask how old are you now? |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Nobody: 10:08pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
stillwater: Sweety, def I have not. I made sure of that, so to avoid miscalculations like this. Must be YIM gossips I was raised in a married home, Dr. Phil. stillwater:There we go. I was? Please list names. I still am? With who? List name jare LMAO!!! My NL love come and post o. Na so we dey see am, na to dey gist on YIM dey run gossips. Love holds a deeper meaning, but the brain to understand it is still developing as a teenager, as a girl give yourself time, no need to rush. Enjoy your childhood. Men will surely come, loll. If that is too much to understand, I can no more help you. Oooohh so now you're agreeing to the father figure presence? lol. I believe I cited other factors of this issue, it was you that had problems or preferably took offence to the father angle. So don't act as if I said lack of it was the only issue. Love holds a deeper meaning, really? Oh jeez. You assume that all 17 years old do not understand it, but ironically you assume that at 17 you were capable of longing for a "love" you did not understand at that point. People have dated in high school and have married their high school loves. People who bean dating in their early 20s, still they do not understand the true meaning of love. Who are you to use your "lifestory" as a base for judgment. And do post your evidence that age 17-19 don't know the true meaning of love. LMAO @ "not dating at 19 to finish school". |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by chic2pimp(m): 10:57pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
Ileke-IdI: Swerrie i dey ooo. Have been mostly on the Sports Section because of the ongoing football tourney. Don't worry I haven't forgotten the only sugar in my tea, the only N..i..p..p.l..e in my mouth,the only chest I lie my head on Abeg no be my fault ooo. Blame Titilope with her gigantic bazookas even at that age . Na she allow me dey tap current as if i be the NEPA Chief Executive . Oya gbe idi wa si be yii |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
chic2pimp: I told you that if we're to keep this our 20+ current love going, it would have to be off of NL and stay in your imagination Sport section. . . . puke |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by chic2pimp(m): 12:06am On Jun 11, 2012 |
Ileke-IdI:In my Koko? ......Terms Agreed!!! 20+ ke? Abeg no talk dat kain tin jor. Current wey I tap at the ripe old age of 12. Oya gbe enu e wa si be Ileke-IdI:Don't worry my Bedmatics skills would soon convince you that's the best section on NL . P:S I don't like that pic on your profile jor. Abeg you should be displaying your two best assets. Oya gbe oyan wa si be yii je ki n mu Milk |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by kandiikane(m): 12:07am On Jun 11, 2012 |
stillwater: Lol. Well if it will put your heart to rest my passport age is 39 Will you reveal your age? Btw, I want you to tell me how one can go about enjoying their teenage years without experimenting and experiences? Actually, I personally believe there is a huge flaw in your thinking of how a teenager should be. At the ages of 16 upwards is the time you make decisions that would affect your future outcome. So, if you are at that age and you are deciding major life decisions such as which career path to choose, why should that stop you from deciding which man you would want in your future? You are already big enough to be making big decisions that really as you said your brain needs to grow to understand and you are yet to know whether they will even go as planned but you still make them. Why stop at just career? Listen, this is all part of being a teenager, you don't just expect them to sit there and play hopscotch. The body is changing so is the mind. Love knows no age. It's through experience and growing with it that you can understand it. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Nobody: 1:37am On Jun 11, 2012 |
chic2pimp: Don't let my eh-nemies in politic see this one o Back to Sports section with you |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Sagamite(m): 12:44pm On Jun 11, 2012 |
kandiikane: No, on average, you are not big enough to make decisions that would affect your future. Don't be fooled by that British crap. In other countries, it might be 18 or it might be 21. 16 year olds don't have a jack-clue what the future holds or what they want. Using your example (career path), hardly are people doing what they planned to do at 16 in 20 years time. In my view, on average, there is no right age for people to make decisions about their future because majority of people are inherently cretins. They consistently and eternally need guidance on making decisions. So at 16, you should have guidance without a shadow of a doubt, majority are not big enough for nada. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by kandiikane(m): 1:07pm On Jun 11, 2012 |
^ they have guidance but that doesn't stop them from making the decisions. At 16 you are asked to choose the foundations of the career path you want to go for and at 18 you start the process. You said it! 16year olds don't have a "jack clue" about what the future holds but they still make the decisions that will enable them to enter the future. It might not be the right age for you but waiting until 21 to make these decisions is too long. Time wakes for no man. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Sagamite(m): 1:24pm On Jun 11, 2012 |
kandiikane: ^ they have guidance but that doesn't stop them from making the decisions. Sex and career path are not the same thing. One can have irreversible consequences. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by Yorisb: 1:25pm On Jun 11, 2012 |
Sagamite: If I pop down viagra with the water from the stream in Sagamu that I grew up drinking used to soak a bowl of ijebu garri (no sugar), I think I can achieve that in one session with a nice Orobo-to-bad woman. Bwahahahahahaha! |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by kandiikane(m): 1:44pm On Jun 11, 2012 |
Sagamite: They are not the same but they are both decisions many teens make. The argument with still water was not even about sex but the decisions made at that age. I do not condone promiscuity. |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by jordan32: 10:02pm On Jun 12, 2012 |
Teenage pregnancy is abomination,but abortion makes it worse,y cant dis young gals cover their PUSSIES eh! |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by kandiikane(m): 3:16am On Jun 13, 2012 |
^how can they keep it shut when there are men like you who are always trying to get a sniff ? |
Re: Our Attitude Towards Teenage Pregnancy by kandiikane(m): 3:16am On Jun 13, 2012 |
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