ODVanguard:


Don't mind him. I'll help you jare. Below are pictures of a typical compound or 'backyarn' in Obinagu, Afikpo in modern day Ebonyi.

lol guy.....
That is my state naw...

Wonderful development!

pazienza:


Furthermore, at Aboh "R. A. K. Oldfield, a European, while on the Niger River near Aboh in 1832 had recorded locals calling out to him and his entourage "Oh, Eboe! Oh, Eboe!" meaning "White man, White man!" linked to modern 'oyibo'."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyibo
Deal with it. You can go and do the needful, if it can help you.

Ndo

I've already made my point.
You and the rest of the Igbo revisionist bandwagon can continue.

I even saw one person like yourself saying Abeokuta was originally an Igbo town called Ebe Okwute, before Yorubas corrupted it into Abeokuta.
lol. The kind of things some people spew online.

StarFlux:
I dey laff.

You know, we are actually here to learn new things and become wiser. This other guy is the opposite of that: He's not here to learn; he's here to convince and spit on those who have opposing opinions. It's more amusing than anything else, really. It's interesting to see how far someone is willing to go on about something of which they have no proof or worthwhile arguements.

Would be interesting to see such a record, indeed!

So, why exactly was the word corrupted (mind you, corrupted is not a negative term in this case)?

Very soon Some Igbos will come here and start arguing with everyone that Osikakpa , The Igbo word for rice which even kids know in Igboland is an Igbo word.
Even though those who are more aware know it was borrowed from Hausa word Shinkafa.
The problem here is that some people think that it is a shame to borrow words into the lexicon of one's own native language. The truth is that not all languages have the same level of development.

pazienza:


What exactly do you intend to achieve or prove with the above?

Imo, Abia people call the white man Bekee, Anambra, Enugu and Enuani call the white man Oyibo, abroad is Ala bekee to an Imo man, and Obodo Oyibo to the Anambra man. We have different scenarios like this amongst Igbo people, where by things are are called two different names, defending on one's part of Igboland.

You understand next to nothing about Igbo diversity, I'd suggest you stick to your Yoruba group and stop meddling into things you know next to nothing about.

Your lies stink to the high heavens lol.
Onye Igbo and Oyibo in pronunciation sound COMPLETELY DIFFERENT even to a toddler, and even with the removal of a n and a Gb! lol
And in West Africa here, we know that tones can make a whole world of Difference in meaning.

Oyibo in the proper intonation anywhere in Nigeria means Nada in Igbo, and you know it.

Kpele.

pazienza:


I don't care what the Ika call white man, he can call it whatever he wants, the Ika man(Ikpanminose or whatever he calls himself) you speak of is edophiliic, his opinion on Igbo matters count for nothing, as he is not Igbo, you should only quote him on Edo matters, I'm sure he is an expert on that.

Oyibo is what we use in my part of Igboland to refer to white man. We say Obodo Oyibo ( White man land ), Aku oyibo ( Coconut, literary meaning White man kernel), Ego Oyibo ( White man money for shillings, pounds), etc.
No one says Aku onye Onyeocha, Obodo onye ocha, etc.

You as a Yoruba man are in no position to lecture me on my language, and it's even ridiculous for you to be quoting an Edophilic Ika man who obviously is not Igboland and knows next to nothing about Igbo language.

Those of us who understand the diversity with Igbo dialects would strongly disagree with you.

Ada Bekee was a very popular Igbo Nollywood movie about a local girl who was trying so hard to be foreign.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cg2WKdmuIY

StarFlux:
Right. Instead of countering my argument you apply fallacy, interesting. You're more than likely unfamiliar with the concept of fallacy, so I'll allow you to google it and educate yourself on the subject.

You fail to realize (despite your best intentions, I'm sure) that whether a word was recorded first or written down first, here or there is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Take this experiment of thought: Let's assume France had no written language. Let's assume that the French word for sky ciel was first recorded and used in an English poem before any French references - Would that make the word English? Sure (it makes it a borrowed English word), but not English of origin. The same logic can be applied to oyibo.

The simple fact is that oyibo makes no sense in Igbo by itself which is one sign that it might've been borrowed. You mention "historical reasons" and list a bunch of people shouting the word at the white men. That gives us nothing on the origin of the word. If it is, as you say, obvious that the word is Igbo - Why can't you be so kind and break down the word for us: syllable by syllable.

I'm patiently awaiting your break down of the word.

You dey mind am? That guy na core Igbo supremacist, so mind how you deal with him.
By the way, there is als a written historical account that dates to the 1830s of Yoruba people referring to whites as Oibo or Oyibo..... I think I saw someone post it somewhere before.
So it's not even as if there are no written records of them using it from way back.

pazienza:


That's how the white man wrote it, using his own orthography. Just as they wrote Ibo/Igbo as Eboe, Ngwa as Ungua, it's not hard to see that "Oh Eboe" is Oyibo when written with the correct orthography.

Another Ika man already came on this thread and said that they still use Onye Ebo to refer to white people in his village, and not oyibo.
So, tell me what stopped the Southern Igbos from doing the same?

Ndi Ocha was the Original Igbo word for Europeans. It is not hard to see that later on, Bekee and Oyinbo came via external influences based on which people the different mba Igbo were relating with at the time. Oyibo from the Western front through Edo/Delta axis. and Bekee from the Southern coastal front.

pazienza:



Furthermore, at Aboh "R. A. K. Oldfield, a European, while on the Niger River near Aboh in 1832 had recorded locals calling out to him and his entourage "Oh, Eboe! Oh, Eboe!" meaning "White man, White man!" linked to modern 'oyibo'."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyibo
Meanwhile, we still await any historical narrative by the whites, where they were referred as Oyinbo by native Yoruba speaking people.
Shamless lots.

It is no longer Onye Igbo, it is now Oh! Eboe!
lol.... lies can't keep up!

pazienza:

Provide just one historical record by white men, of Yorubas calling them Oyibo. Just one.

Your peeled skin kodi honey lies is embarrassing, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

You are the one who should be ashamed for trying so desperately to weave a fable round the meaning of Oyibo.
Of all the explanations, the igbo one sounded the most like a fairytale. Even the Bini one made more sense.

Out of Nigeria's East and West Coast, which people saw white people first?
Hian!

pazienza:


Oyibo is an Igbo word ,and Ndiigbo have a historical explanation of how that word came about, and this is backed by historical data recorded by the whites, that placed the very first usage of that word to be amongst Igbo speaking people.

I don't give a dead rat about your Yoruba Oyinbo or it's explanation, and by the way, stop acting neutral, you obviously are Yorubacentric, embrace it, there is no shame in it. No one is deceived by your desperate failed attempt at claiming neutral and "detribalized ".

Stop lying!!
Cultural revisionist.!... chei otu asi.

pazienza:


Stop talking trash. Andrew uweh is from Imo state, where the call the white man bekee, he is not from Anambra /Enugu /Delta Igbo area where the white man have been called Oyibo since antiquity.
He is entitled to his own opinions and not facts, I don't know what you think you can prove by quoting him.

The truth of course.

Most slaves from Igboland were conveyed mainly via forests, or two main rivers. The Imo river and the Cross River. Both in Southern Igboland area.
So I don't exactly get ur lies that Oyibo was igbo mockery of white people asking for "Onye Igbo". Shey na Awka abi Nsukka people dem dey ask for Igbo pple from abi, Oratta and Ngwa.

Decide for yourself.

pazienza:
Please enough of this nonsense, I can already see Yoruba people claiming Igbo to spew trash here.

The academic fact remains that the earliest documented use of the word Oyibo in Nigeria was in Igboland, amongst Igbo people.

You should read ur brother's comment here:

AndreUweh:
In Southern Igbo areas e.g Abia, Imo and Upland Rivers state including Bonny and Opobo, Oyibo is hardly used for Europeans. Bekee or Nwabeeke, onye ocha or Ndiocha is used instead of Oyibo. The Igbo groups that uses Oyibo are Western and northern Igbos.
The southern Igbo people were the first to encounter the Europeans and they did not call them Oyibos but Ndi ocha.
@Odumchi and Alh Uche, there is no winner or loser here.

When swamp Igbos don't use Oyibo , na Enugu Igbo on a hill close to Benue wey neva see white man until like when.... go come dey claim ownership of a Yoruba word.

Stop lying bro. Oyinbo is a Yoruba word. Anambra/Enugu Igbos denasalised it by removing the nasal n before the B, because their dialects lacked nasalizations. And from there, it entered pidgin as Oyibo, because majority of yorubas do not go near pidgin. But now, the Yoruba form is gradually coming back to take pre-eminence if you notice the internet very well.

So what should we do?

Their business.

Oh loooord!
Just when I thought my people were starting to gather small sense..... evil strikes again.

Ndi Igbo, maka gini sef, must we always been seen as shameless criminals?

conductor111:
Hello
Giving her child up for adoption is better than throwing it away, or worse still, racketeering of human parts / skull mining in Ogun State like your elders.

My brother pls, don't. Let's not deceive ourselves like we Igbos are fond of doing.
Posting gory pictures won't change the facts that What Yorubas do is small compared to our own, it was just one month ago that a dog sniffed out a human parts selling restaurant in Anambra state. That person was almost lynched but for the timely intervention of police forces,

hmmn

Some parts of Igboland don't call white people Oyibo, they use Bekee.
So that Igbo explanation kinda does not make sense, as it actually does sound like something that was "cooked" or made up.

Also the Intonation of Onye Ibo or Onye Igbo is quite different from the way Oyibo is being pronounced in Nigeria today. The word (Igbo) has two falling tones on I and O, While the 'ibo' in Oyibo has a falling I and a rising O. which is exactly the same as it is pronounced in Yoruba. Òyìnbó

Besides the PROPER Igbo word for white people is "Ndi Ocha" not Oyibo. You can never find the word Oyibo when you are having a deep Igbo conversation. Whereas even conc Yoruba people use Oyinbo in everyday speech and formalized academic literature.

The Wikipedia Igbo page for whites for example, has the title "Ndi Ocha"
https://ig.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ndi_ocha

The Yoruba Wikipedia page for whites has the title "Awon Oyinbo"
https://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%80w%E1%BB%8Dn_%C3%B2y%C3%ACnb%C3%B3

Even today, the Yoruba word for "Body Bleaching" is still "Bo-ra" Bora from Bo - peel, Ara - body.

Na waa o

lol wat da fuq....

Thespacepilot:


Dude if ikweres aren't Igbo's fine..
They should stop answering Igbo names....Simple as that because nobody can differentiate BTW a ikwere obinna or amadi with a Igbo obinna and amadi...You guys only have four LGA in rivers and there are other Igbo clans there like etche and ndokis even the people in opobo speak igbo ...So its simple if you people deny Igbo heritage than stop answering Igbo names...Even etches and ndokis are proud of there own Igbo heritage...Even ogba people self.

The same Ogba wey get Oba?

Kiki...

Cheeeei!!!

Igbos should by know that Rukwos /Ndi mba mmiri (aka Ijaw, aka Izon) are not part of the Biafran State.
We are Alone. And I say this without mincing words.

Any Igbo still "romancing" the idea of a country with Ijaws in it at this stage is just fooling his/herself

cc: Amarabee.

Probz:


65% of ndi Enugwu are Igala? Are you trying to be funny?

65% of Enugu North have some Igala in them.
Pls read more slowly with a clear head, breath in breath out.