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Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 7:27pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Krismas:Lmfao, this clown has returned to have a debate with me after calling me names. Well, I will oblige you just for fun. 1. So you don't believe a story that was in well known news source like the guardian and another from a Turkish news site themselves? You are calling them mock links? If the guardian and the turks themselves are now manufacturing news to favour Israel, who are we then to believe? A delusional conspiracy theorist like you on nairaland? There are many examples of those aid ships arriving in Gaza through Israel only if you had been smart enough to use Google but I simply chose those two from indisputable sources so you won't doubt it but I can see that there is no depth to which a delusional mind can't sink. Continue with your delusional conspiracy theories, any sensible person would rather believe those reputable news sources than you. 2. I said the Gaza flotilla was heading to Israeli territorial waters not Israel mainland. You're too dumb, you can't even read and understand things written in simple English. 3. Of what importance is your telling me about Turkey's reaction? Everyone knows that turkey under erdogan has always been antagonistic against Israel so what else did you expect them to say when eight of the extremists that were killed were Turkish? The UN report condemned Turkey for allowing the flotilla form and leave for Gaza, the same report says Israel's actions were legal and only condemned them for using excessive force so what the hell are you even arguing about? 4. There were no mujaheedeen extremists on board? So how then do you explain this excerpt from the same link you claim you wanted to post? 1 Like
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Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 5:58pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Krismas:You are the one that is very pathetic and a buffoon at that. You are not simply ignorant, you are very dumb and foolish as well. Get lost! Nonsense!! 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 5:37pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Krismas:Hahahaha, this is ridiculous. Who has been sounding like a paid propagandist between you and I? Who has been making up blatant lies and alternate reality here if not you? Everything I've said, I provided evidence for them, which one have you provided to back up your claims? Even the ones you provide end up implicating you. You are the one that is sounding like an indoctrinated and brainwashed fellow. You and that Amazontopaz fellow have been slapped left and right with facts beyond your knowledge and instead of you to appreciate me for educating you thoroughly, you two are here crying on each others shoulders and consoling yourselves with these ridiculous claims about me. 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 5:15pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Krismas:Go and click on the useless link you posted and see where it will lead you. 2. Israel is bordered by the Mediterranean and the ship were headed for Israeli territorial waters. Israel didn't go into the Mediterranean to attack ships there, they only intercepted the ship when they wanted to enter Israeli territorial waters. do your research and stop making blind argument. 3. How about the full content of the report? What was the UN decision on the legality of Israel's actions? You posted that link as an evidence that Israel wasn't allowing basic food and medicine get into Gaza, I bursted your lies by giving a more detailed explanation of why that particular flotilla was stopped and now you want to change the topic and start talking about the excessive force that Israel were said to have used? Chai, was the ship carrying extremists that said they are ready to die as martyrs fighting Israel? Was the ship carrying construction materials that were banned? Did you also read the part where after inspecting the ship, the Israelis wanted to transfer the aid materials on the ship to Gaza but the Palestinians rejected it? I am sure you will pretend not to see that part. 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 5:02pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Krismas:So many ships have been allowed yearly to bring supply into Gaza. I'm surprised you don't know this yet you are making blind arguments when you know nothing about the subject. Na wa oh, here are some articles for you any way. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/04/turkish-ship-carrying-humanitarian-aid-for-gaza-reaches-isreal https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailysabah.com/turkey/2017/06/21/turkish-aid-ship-carrying-tons-of-supplies-for-blockaded-gaza-strip-arrives-in-israel/amp 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 4:41pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Krismas: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_flotilla_raid This is the link you should have posted earlier. Read it to understand what the Gaza flotilla incident and what it was all about including how it ended and how the UN investigated it and their findings. Take your time and read it to the end. I've read it many times over before today so there's really nothing you can tell me about this Gaza flotilla incident. Secondly, I didn't say everyone in the flotilla was a hardcore mujahedeen matyr wannabe, I said some of the organizers. Thirdly, the Mediterranean forms part of Israel's territorial waters as it borders Israel. 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 4:33pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Krismas:Who is the mumu here when you can't even post a proper link? Your link leads to no where but if you want to talk about the Gaza flotilla incident, The flotilla was rejected access by Israel at the time because part of those organising it were hardcore anti Israel extremists some of whom had already declared their intention to die as mujahedeen matyrs fighting against Israel. Surely there's no way Israel would have allowed such a flotilla come into their territorial waters. Israel warned them to abort their mission before they set out but they did anyway so they were intercepted. This event happened in 2010 that's 11 years ago and there have been many ships carrying food and medicine before and after that date coming into Palestine through Israel so if it was about blocking Palestinians from receiving food and medicine then why were other ships being allowed apart from this flotilla? I am sure you don't know that this flotilla was not only carrying food It was also "construction materials" that could be used to make weapons and that's another reason why it was stopped like I told you earlier that such was not allowed. You must think I am one of you empty headed clowns that delight in arguing about subjects you know nothing about. Think again! Bring your next propaganda, I am in my full lies bursting mood today 1 Like |
Politics / Re: BREAKING!!! IPOB, Oduduwa Launch Joint Volunteer Force, Demand End to Militarisa by Abascoh: 4:14pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
This one is already doomed. As the holy book says, "Can two walk together except they agree?" AMOS 3:3 2 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 3:55pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Krismas:Here you go again reciting baseless rumour and alternate reality views which you can't present any evidence for. The one evidence you tried to provide even proved you very wrong so which source are you getting all these your coçk and bull stories from? I also consider you a very ignorant person and with reason as you have clearly been unable to argue based on facts rather you are busy manufacturing imaginary stories that only exist in your head and using that as a basis for your argument. That doesn't portray you as one who knows anything, if anything it portrays you as a brainwashed Jew hater that will manufacture any kind of lie in order to justify his irrational hatred of Jews and defend Jew hating terrorists like Hamas. The fact is Israel is not blockading Gaza as it simply cannot do so physically because Gaza has other borders which Israel can't control. Israel on the other hand has a right to decide who comes into their country including her territorial waters just like every country has and they are doing so. PS: you just reminded me of a blatant lie you told earlier that Israel was blocking basic food and medical supplies from reaching Gaza. That's a blatant lie!! Israel even helps facilitate the supply of these materials to Gaza. The only thing that Israel rejects are the ones that have dual purposes and can also be used to manufacture bombs and other weapons that can be used by the terrorists against Israel. Stop lying and stick to facts please. 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 3:03pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Sterope:Madam know all that is yet to provide any fact, why were Hamas firing missiles into Israel?/please tell us. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 3:02pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 2:56pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
AmazonTopaz:Here again you are, publishing your antisemitic propagandist credentials by using a fake map illustration that was concocted by Jew haters to spread anti Jewish propaganda. And even the US media have apologized for using that fake map to illustrate what happened in Palestine and admitted that the map was factually incorrect. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/msnbc-apologizes-for-completely-wrong-maps-of-israel/amp/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXPKgnkp_Nk You are just deliberately conflating the term "Palestinian region" and the modern phenomenon called a "Palestinian state" which are two completely different things. The present state of Israel was founded in the Palestinian region not on lands belonging to any Palestinian state as no Palestinian state existed. The hogwash you are writing about UN resolution 181 of 1947 further exposes how ignorant you are on the subject because the resolution was never implemented because the Arabs rejected it. The resolution called for the creation of the two states to be created not later than October 1948 which the Arabs rejected and instead went to war with Israel so tell me how the Arabs can now turn around and start claiming the provisions of a resolution that in effect expired in October 1948 when the resolution failed in its implementation because of Arabs refusal to accept it? In 2011, Mahmoud Abbas even stated that the 1947 Arab rejection of United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a mistake he hoped to rectify so why are you now claiming the same resolution that has expired and not implemented because of Arab rejection as a basis of determining the land that supposedly belongs to Palestine? I don't even know how to address your shameless lie about the sheik Jarah incident. Sheik Jarrah was a Jewish neighborhood before the Arab Israeli war of 1948, but the Jews had to flee during the war. After the war the Jordanian government was in control of the neighborhood so the Jews couldn't return to it but in 1967 Israel gained control of the neighborhood and the Jewish owners of those homes came back to claim their properties from the Arabs who had occupied it. In this particular case, There was a dispute and the matter went to court where the ruling was in favour of the original Jewish owners of the property and when the Israeli police went to enforce the court ruling, the Palestinians became violent and the police had to use teargas to disperse them. That's what led to the current crisis. So who is seizing who's homes in sheik Jarrah? A house that originally and legally belongs to Jews forcefully seized by Arabs and you expect the Jews not to ever reclaim their property even after the courts resolved the dispute in their favor? 3 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 12:53pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
AmazonTopaz:By your own post, you are just admitting that Jews lived there before the Arabs came and also admitting that the Arabs claimed the land through conquest. You also agreed that the British mandatory aided the European Jews to migrate to Palestine (which was legal by international law at the time as Palestine was recognized British territory then) so how exactly do you come about your argument about the land belonging to Arabs? What makes the land theirs and not the Jews? This is what I want an answer to. You seem to also be trying to deliberately memory hole the fact that there were indigenous Palestinian Jews living in Palestine before the European Jews came to join them under the British mandate. Do the Arabs have a more rightful claim to that land than these indigenous Palestinian Jews? I think you are the one that really brush up on your knowledge of the Palestinian region because you seem to believe that there were no Jews living there until the European Jews arrived in the 1900's. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 12:39pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
AmazonTopaz:You didn't provide any facts, I challenged you to provide a single authentic historical record that claims the Arabs arrived in Palestine before the Jews, I am still waiting for it. All you have been reciting is complete nonsense talking points that you are getting from the anti Jewish, arab propaganda machine and you are just repeating them verbatim without making any attempt to research the history of Palestine for yourself. You have absolutely no knowledge of history, you are just looking for an outlet for your antisemitism and therefore you are gobbling and propagating any anti Jewish lies you can find. 2 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 12:28pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
AmazonTopaz:How can one understand nonsense? That's all that your so called points amount to, complete nonsense!! 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 12:08pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Krismas:If anyone is a brainwashed pig here, it's you because you're even sounding more senseless than a lunatic. Egypt is a sovereign nation and no one can force them to close their borders to others if they don't want to. I asked you to provide evidence that it's the US that forced Egypt to close their borders, you couldn't provide any one instead you launched into a nonsensical diatribe. My friend please take your tales by moonlight and tell it to the baboons, come back to me whenever you have any evidence that Egypt is being forced to close their own border to Gaza. Till then you can take your coçk and bull story about an Israeli blockade and shove it where the sun don't shine. Modified: Even the link you posted as evidence earlier says Egypt voluntarily closed their own borders to Gaza and that the closure was even supported by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. And the Palestinian Authority even coordinated with Egypt to enforce the closure. So you just hanged yourself and your trash argument with the very link you provided. 1 Like 1 Share
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Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 11:51am On Jun 14, 2021 |
AmazonTopaz:You're just posting a bunch of mumbo jumbo that no sense can be made out of. Who spoke of the Israelites of the Bible? Are you now hallucinating or what? I am talking of accounts of contemporary historians all agreeing that Jews were living in Palestine before Arabs came there. Can you bring a single historical source that says Arabs arrived in Palestine earlier than the Jews? You are now saying oh but the Ottomans were there too before the British as if that negates the fact that Arabs migrated there long after the Jews had been living there. How did the Arabs now become the legal owners of the land? If they could migrate from wherever they came from to share that land with others then why can't the European Jews also migrate to be with their Palestinian Jews brothers? Moreover like I said, the European Jewish migration to Palestine was sanctioned by the British mandatory that legally owned Palestine at the time according to international laws so can you come off this your bullshit argument that Jews annexed Palestinian land. That's utter rubbish because there was no country called Palestine then, it was the British mandatory Palestine and the European Jews moved there legally under British mandatory policy. 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 11:20am On Jun 14, 2021 |
Krismas:Lol, so Egypt also blockaded Gaza? Then why don't Hamas fire rockets into Egypt? Why are you Jew haters not attacking Egypt for closing their own side of the border? Instead you are calling it an Israeli blockade as if Israel surrounded and blockaded Gaza when all they did was restrict movement into their own country. You are just engaging in what I call baseless rumour mongering. Can you provide any evidence that the US or any other country for that matter are forcing Egypt to close their side of the border? Or that Morsi was killed by a US conspiracy? This is the problem with most of you rabid Jew haters, you know you don't have any facts to back up many of your anti Jewish propaganda so you have to make up all these pseudo history and alternate reality views in order to use it to justify your irrational backing for the terrorist activities of Hamas and at the same time try to deprive Israel of their right to defend themselves from the terrorists. Israel has every right to block any avenue of the terrorists to come into Israel. We knew of the rampant suicide bombings that were being perpetrated inside israel by Hamas and islamic Jihad before the closure of the Gaza border put a stop to it but you Jew haters like to pretend that all was well and Israel just decided to close their borders for no reason. As for your very laughable argument about Hamas, you didn't deny that Hamas have made the destruction of Israel one of their cardinal missions but you want Israel to wait until Hamas has maybe a nuclear weapon before they act to protect themselves? Like seriously? Palestinian terrorists that were carrying out numerous suicide bombings inside Israel or Hamas that were firing rockets at Israeli civilian populations were not threat enough for Israel to react to protect themselves? You must be joking!! |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 10:22am On Jun 14, 2021 |
Krismas:You Jew haters have mastered the act of lying shamelessly. It's physically impossible for Israel to blockade Gaza because Gaza has a border with Egypt on one side and Israel on the other so how can Israel blockade them? Unless you are claiming that there are Israeli soldiers in Egypt blockading Gaza from that side too. All Israel has done is to restrict movement into Israel from Gaza on their own side of the border which is very necessary given that Hamas has never hidden her desire to wipe out Israel from the map. Every country has a right to determine who can come into their country and who can't and Israel has the same right too. That you have to start telling lies about a supposed blockade in other to use that as a justification to launch missiles into Israel just shows how hollow your arguments are. 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 9:57am On Jun 14, 2021 |
[s] AmazonTopaz:[/s] You are just full of BS, your so called knowledge of history is nothing but a mix marsh of ignorant and fraudulent anti Israeli propaganda that has no basis in reality. At least you have finally subtly agreed that the Jews lived there before the Arabs came there unlike how you were earlier trying to be deliberately deceptive. So you admit that the Palestinian arabs displaced others in other to claim ownership of the land but it's now a crime for the earlier inhabitants to reclaim their land abi? Can you see how foolish your argument sounds? If the Palestinian Arabs can have legal ownership by displacing others then why can't the Palestinian Jews have the same legal ownership by displacing others too? This land legally belonged to the British under the British mandatory, a legal proclamation was made to allow the Jews to come back to their home from where they were dispersed all across the world. The Jews did not annex Palestine, Palestine was their homeland and they have a right to live there even more than any Arab migrant that is now claiming falsely that Palestine belongs to them. 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 9:41am On Jun 14, 2021 |
Sterope:It is not by force to be stupid. If you don't have anything sensible to contribute just shut the hell up. 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 3:33am On Jun 14, 2021 |
AmazonTopaz:Keep quiet!! You are the one that is blabbing rubbish and ignorance at the same time. Who doesn't know that the region of Palestine existed before the state of Israel was created, the question is was there a country or state called Palestine? The region of Palestine is different from a country called Palestine. The Jews lived in the region before any Arab set foot there so if you want to start blabbing about who owns the land then the Jews have a more historical claim to the land. You seem to want to deny that there was a Jewish Palestine before an Arab one in which case you are the one that needs to go and study about the Palestinian region. Or perhaps it's not history you care about, you are just being pushed by an obsessive hatred of Jews. Antisemitism is the word to describe it. BTW, the Israel will claim what they will claim in their land, if they decide that the portions of Palestine they occupy today is where they want their boundary to be then it's their choice. There was no country existing on that land when the Israel was created, all we have is the Arab population of Palestine looking for a future state and falsely trying to claim every part of the Palestine region as theirs. And you are yet to say what led to the firing of rockets by Palestinians this time that is different from what I stated earlier about Israeli police using teargas to disperse protesters. They decided to stage a demonstration in the temple mount that is under Israeli control disregarding and disobeying the law that bans any form of demonstration on the temple mount where Al aqsa is located and when Israeli police moved in to disperse them with teargas, the next thing is to start firing rockets into Israel? Then you turn around and start playing victim when Israel hits back? 1 Like |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 10:02pm On Jun 13, 2021 |
budaatum:How many Arab Muslims are there in the coalition? They won't have any impact jare. Israeli PM's always put the interest and security of Israel above everything else not pander to few Muslim Arabs that are more loyal to Palestine than Israel. They were just used to make up the numbers to form a government and if they think that is an opportunity for them to promote Palestinian agenda then they have a serious shock coming for them. I see them being kicked out of the coalition anyway, they were never going to last long in it. As soon as Mr Bennett convinces more hardliners to join his coalition, the few Arabs in it will be kicked out. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 9:51pm On Jun 13, 2021 |
AmazonTopaz:Which land is Palestinian land? There was no country called Palestine when Israel was created. Israel was the first country in Palestine and they fought a war against a combined Arab army and won those territories. As a matter of fact historically, Jews were living on that land long before any Palestinian Arab set foot there. And who provoked Palestinians to start firing rockets into Israel this time? You think Israeli police using teargas to disperse protesters is good enough reason for Palestinians to start firing rockets into Israeli civilian targets? 2 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Bennett Replaces Netanyahu As Prime Minister Of Israel by Abascoh: 9:43pm On Jun 13, 2021 |
budaatum: Vaughanlanrewaj:Think Again
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Sports / Re: Any Update On Israel Adesanya Vs Marvin Vettori Fight? by Abascoh: 5:09am On Jun 13, 2021 |
Adesanya will win 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Buhari: I Told Sanwo-Olu To Tell Lagosians To Walk After Buses Were Burnt by Abascoh: 8:21pm On Jun 12, 2021 |
Rahkman:Your stupid father was one of the touts that burnt those buses. Bloody fool |
Politics / Re: Buhari: I Told Sanwo-Olu To Tell Lagosians To Walk After Buses Were Burnt by Abascoh: 8:18pm On Jun 12, 2021 |
Tinubuadvocate:You must be one of those idiots that always see IPOB in their nightmares. Bloody fool. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: June 12 Protests: Calm In South-East As South-West Boils by Abascoh: 1:11pm On Jun 12, 2021 |
No sensible Igbo person should join the back stabbing Yoruba chameleons on any protest. They will only end up betraying igbos and siding with their Fulani masters to attack them. End SARS was not long ago nah, didn't we see the worse kind of chameleonish behavior by Yorubas? They ended up turning it into an "Igbos are destroying Lagos" agenda. The blunt truth is that Igbos will be used as a scapegoat by the army and other security agencies if they join the protest and the Yorubas will turn around and support their Fulani masters in their brutality against Igbos. Every wise igbo person should stay away from any protest that has to do with one Nigeria. Yorubas and other one Nigeria tribes can go and protest for their one Nigeria. 702 Likes 76 Shares |
Religion / Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Abascoh: 10:12pm On Jun 06, 2021 |
Masturbator2020:Are you alright? How did I disrespect him? 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Abascoh: 9:16pm On Jun 06, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Only him can answer that question 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Why Are All The Top Go's And CAN Silent On TB Joshua's Death? by Abascoh: 9:15pm On Jun 06, 2021 |
He wasn't their member and he refused to have anything to do with PFN or CAN 2 Likes |
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